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bbleh
Gotta pass this along:
https://www.facebook.com/RiseUpAndResist/videos/563718903476823/
(same state at least)
WaterGirl
Suzanne, what was the last word on the sign that says “Please add the Constitution to the…”?
WaterGirl
@bbleh: That was great!
P.S. Love C.L.A.W.S
Scout211
@bbleh: NBC reported 80k in Philadelphia. Amazing.
Baud
@WaterGirl:
same
Spanky
Ooooh! I like the CLAWS one. And held by a gray haired white guy who’s not me
Eta I see I’m not alone.
WaterGirl
Loved this!
geg6
PA! Between Philly, the ‘Burgh and all the little towns like mine that showed up, I’m proud that we still remember where the Declaration was signed and act accordingly.
Suzanne
@WaterGirl: “PLEASE ADD THE CONSTITUTION BACK TO THE CHAT”
geg6
@WaterGirl:
LOL, good one!
WaterGirl
@Spanky: Excellent artwork in addition to being clever!
I can see T-shirts with that.
WaterGirl
@Suzanne: Thank you. I was guessing CHANT, and that didn’t make sense.
Eural Joiner
Just saw a clip of the “parade” in D.C. as the troops are marching along to…”Fortunate Son” ?!?!?
Next up: “Born in the USA” – ha ha, just kidding, but maybe!
different-church-lady
Right now Dumbfuck Hitler’s big military spectacle is fourth on the landing pages of both the NYTs and the WaPo. Sad.
geg6
By the way, any word on parade crowd size in DC? I hope hardly anyone showed up.
Suzanne
@geg6: There were multiple protests in the Burgh! I was Downtown (marched from City-County Building to the Federal Courthouse), but there was also a gathering at Freedom Corner (Hill District), Shadyside, multiple burbs, and then lots of small towns. I wonder how many people there were out today, all told.
The weather held out!
Baud
@geg6:
thread from someone who’s there, with photos
https://bsky.app/profile/laurajedeed.bsky.social/post/3lrlxmm2qlk25
WaterGirl
@Eural Joiner: I know!
Some folks are born made to wave the flag
Hoo, they’re red, white and blue
And when the band plays “Hail to the chief”
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord
It ain’t me, it ain’t me
I ain’t no senator’s son, son
It ain’t me, it ain’t me
I ain’t no fortunate one, no
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don’t they help themselves, Lord?
But when the taxman come to the door
Lord, the house lookin’ like a rummage sale, yeah
It ain’t me, it ain’t me
I ain’t no millionaire’s son, no, no
It ain’t me, it ain’t me
I ain’t no fortunate one, no
Yeah-yeah, some folks inherit star-spangled eyes
Hoo, they send you down to war, Lord
And when you ask ’em, “How much should we give?”
Hoo, they only answer, “More, more, more, more”
It ain’t me, it ain’t me
I ain’t no military son, son, Lord
It ain’t me, it ain’t me
I ain’t no fortunate one, one
It ain’t me, it ain’t me
I ain’t no fortunate one, no, no, no
It ain’t me, it ain’t me
I ain’t no fortunate son, no, no, no
It ain’t me, it ain’t me…
Suzanne
CLAWS was the best sign of the day, hands down.
ETA: The person holding that sign was wearing a Bauhaus T-shirt and I felt very much among my people.
geg6
@different-church-lady:
Hopefully, it’s sad trombones all the way down. The pics I saw about and hour before it was supposed to kick off showed an underwhelming crowd,
WaterGirl
@Eural Joiner:
Link
They are STUPID and EVIL.
Spanky
Top story on the DC Fox news website:
With a picture of the most punchable pale punk you can imagine.
So Shithead isn’t even capturing his favorite news org. Sad!
geg6
@Suzanne:
There were at least several hundred here in Beaver when I left (looked larger than the Hands Off one, which was about 600) anticipating rain. By the time I got to my car, the skies opened up and it poured like hell. So I went to Aldi. :-)
WaterGirl
Sad!
Hob
San Francisco march was good… & big, I’m never any good at estimating, but to my eye it seemed like the biggest demonstration I’ve seen here since 2003, and the numbers in the press have ranged from 30,000 to 50,000.
There was a hit-and-run about half a block from the route, early on – initial report made it sound like an attack that hit multiple people, but the latest is that 1 person was hit and it may have been an accident. No other trouble as far as I know. I encountered only one guy who was against us, and he was a rando on the bus who just kind of half-heartedly complained that “there’s nothing to protest about!” and “this is just because of Trump’s parade – I bet you hate the troops.”
Baud
Sister Golden Bear
@Eural Joiner:
Malicious compliance in action.
Baud
Rich Gardner
Woo hoo! Indivisible estimates Philly had 100k people at our No Kings march today! https://youtu.be/uOpNsB7pkY8
prostratedragon
@Sister Golden Bear: If one of the military bands, that’s likely just what it is. Those band directors know their stuff.
Suzanne
@Rich Gardner: LOVE TO SEE PA TELL THAT FUCKER TO GET BENT.
frosty
@geg6: The First Capital of the United States showed up too!
Jay
Martin
LAPD once again demonstrating their belief that an unfired rubber bullet or tear-gas canister is an affront to god.
Have no idea how they would estimate this crowd size – as usual for LA protests it’s really spread out. My sense most of this week is that protesters were mostly focused on wasting the cops time – being enough of a nuisance that they couldn’t go home and creating situations where 200 cops are there to protect city hall from like 15 people.
The LAPD giving the Prop 65 warning in English and Spanish for teargas side-effects before firing in volume is like peak California. We’re willing to shoot you in the head, but be aware there’s a 1% chance this will cause neurological disorders in your unborn child.
prostratedragon
Fifth Avenue, from just above 42nd down to …
bbleh
Oooh, oh, now with music…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=daBBDNnMLTk
This is even better than the one up top …
Mike in Pasadena
Pasadena CA protest had 4 to 5 thousand attendees. Most with excellent signs, lots of US flags, no flags of Mexico or Venezuela but many signs supported migrants, covered an area of about six blocks. One blowhorn that lasted only a short time trying to organize chants without much result. I was astonished at the idiots in sandals and flip flops, toddlers and the infirm, and most people unaware of the dangers of big crowds. A panic caused by gunshot or screams from a car murder can turn a happy crowd into a murderous stampede. Lots of police attended by land and by air (choppers). Correction: saw a Mexican flag flown from a car window.
CliosFanboy
Our house is right under today’s flight path. Pretty noisy for awhile with helicopters and such
Steve LaBonne
@Martin: They’re admirers of Mayor Daley. “The police aren’t here to create disorder, they’re here to preserve disorder”.
zhena gogolia
@bbleh: OMG, fabulous video!
Sister Golden Bear
@prostratedragon: Speaking of band directors, my junior high school band director would’ve stroked out if we marched in the sorry-ass way the troops did together.
Plus they didn’t even do basic shit like organizing the ranks by height so that soldiers in each rank were a consistent size. Pretty clear none of them gave a fuck about being there.
prostratedragon
@Steve LaBonne: Richard J’s finest hour. I noticed that LAPD bought out the horses, while CPD seems to have stuck with bicycles.
JanieM
The Boston area was my home for ten years and the home base of my work for 30+ years after that. I haven’t been back since covid followed quickly after my retirement, but a friend sent me this and it sure made me wish I had been there today.
WaterGirl
@Rich Gardner: 100,000, wow!
Mr. Bemused Senior
Caption: “I paid $25 million for THIS??”
WaterGirl
@bbleh: That is good, I’ll use it in the next post.
prostratedragon
@Sister Golden Bear:
espierce
@WaterGirl:
John Fogerty was a disillusioned Vietnam war veteran so he had the inside track when he wrote that song.
Great anti-war song from 1969!
Martin
@Steve LaBonne: Pretty much. If you look at still images or clips, they look very dramatic. But if you watch a livestream, you realize that 2 seconds is very carefully cherry-picked from an hour of people just standing around waving flags, sometimes singing, and you can’t avoid the folks walking by just going to work, the media folks casually discussing their favorite camera lenses and so on. The sense of danger and urgency really doesn’t exist in the manner that the still image or clip would suggest. It’s very dissonant in the sense that in this 100 square meter area there’s something dramatic happening, and outside of that folks are so nonplussed by the whole thing that they often don’t even bother looking up to see what’s happening.
At my university when the cops rolled into to arrest all the students at the end of the Gaza protests, I couldn’t take my eyes off a couple of students sitting in the quad clearly studying for a midterm that week while cops in riot gear are throwing students down like 20′ away from them. Any assertion of ‘protecting public safety’ or whatever was complete bullshit – students were so unthreatened that they couldn’t even be bothered to move where they were sitting. So much of the LA protests have that energy.
prostratedragon
Wack- fa-la-de-ra!
(🎥 Brian Allen)
Steve LaBonne
@Martin: Pigs gonna pig.
Another Scott
About 10 minutes of “raw video” of the Alexandria, VA No Kings rally (the whole thing is about 30 minutes).
Best wishes,
Scott.
Martin
@prostratedragon: I dunno, I’m old enough to remember the Iraq War.
Jay
Martin
@Steve LaBonne: The worst part is that our locally elected leaders took offense to the national guard being sent in and reassured everyone they didn’t need the feds to treat everyone like shit.
I do like that in the last 4 days the fraction of California flags being waved went from approximately zero to about half. Newsom and Bass have a limited window to enjoy the support before it wears thin.
Jay
MisterForkbeard
I just wanted to add this in – my 75 year old mother went to a No Kings march today! She remembers being a TA/Doctoral student at Berkeley when the riots and national guard were out there. She has a story about walking home between lines of soldiers with guns, late at night.
She says we’re worse off now and we all need to pitch in. I love my mom.
Bill Arnold
@Jay:
Well past the 3.5% of the population rule now (over 11M), at least according to organizer reports.
Marcopolo
Dunno if anyone has reported in from StL. There were several in the area. A friend at an early one in StL County reported a couple thousand at that location. I was downtown with a group of friends & once folks started marching it became apparent there were a hella lot more participants than I initially thought. I’d put the numbers similar to the Wonen’s March in 2017 so maybe between 10-20K. Very high energy, very peaceful, good workout—we walked maybe 3 or so miles from downtown west to city hall then north a half mile then turned back down town to where we started. And despite a brief downpour just before the 2 pm start, the rest of the afternoon was quite lovely.
prostratedragon
@Martin: There’s shame, and then there’s embarassment. This is the latter.
WaterGirl
@Another Scott: Thanks! I added that to the post that will have your photos in it.
It’s getting close to 10pm, so I think I should probably put up the rest of the posts tomorrow.
WaterGirl
@MisterForkbeard:
I love your mom, too.
Jay
Another Scott
@Martin:
Relatedly, …
;-)
Grr…
Best wishes,
Scott.
prostratedragon
Chardon, Ohio
O. Felix Culpa
Even American Girl dolls joined the protests.
SuzieC
Huge protests in Columbus today. Pride parade drew 700K people and most along the parade route were waving No Kings or protest signs. Also robust protests in Columbus neighborhoods and suburbs. I was out in Clintonville with about 1000.
Martin
@prostratedragon: Ok, good point. They are different.
WaterGirl
I have 5 more posts from the protests today, and I imagine there may be more by morning.
If you sent me pics by email, they have been combined in one post.
If you sent pics using the On the Road form, you’ll see it listed below.
This should be confirmation that I have received what you all sent, let me know if you submitted with the form and don’t see yourself in the screen cap.
Shana
Just dropping in at the end of the day to report that we here in Fairfax County VA had Occupy Intersections protests all over at major intersections. I was at Rte 50 and Jermantown Rd. right by the H Mart if you know the area. We had about 50-60 folks at our height and were out from 12-4. People dropped off cases of water, clementines and a box of snack size chips. Totally unforced. We had a few anti folk drive by and make their opinions known but they were outnumbered by supporters by an incredible amount. At least 100 supporters to every anti person. There were at least 30 other intersections around the country where they had similar groups. Pretty good showing.
Craig
@WaterGirl: it’s a rippin song! I’d mainly only heard Up Around The Bend, and Born on The Bayou on AOR Radio in the 80s. My friend’s punk rock band played a cover of Fortunate Son and I was… Holy Shit this song is amazing. Went and bought the record next day.
Jay
We may be witnessing the most globally embarrassing thing ever to happen to the United States., so far.
prostratedragon
@O. Felix Culpa:
I saw that! Apparently, Barbie joined in too.
Meanwhile, is thst a smile?
[They just lie there, and they die there.]
Lyrebird
@prostratedragon:
WOw again!
If anyone wants to see some photos from around Greater Albany NY, click away. Number 18/25 shows “the only throne he’s fit to sit on” with the TP roll.
Where I was most portions of sidewalk were 2-3 people deep. Not like a big downtown march, but this was two miles, both sides of a 4-lane road, so much honking… there were like two heckling vehicles that came by occasionally, but we had so many peace signs, others holding up little letter-sized signs out their windows as they went past
Lyrebird
@Jay: Is that gilded viewing platform photoshopped or for real? (no need to answer)
Yikes.
Aren’t they supposed to salute him but not vice versa?
Chetan Murthy
@Lyrebird: Li’l Donnie doesn’t know he’s not supposed to salute: remember when he saluted that NorK general?
Martin
@Lyrebird: Yeah, for a guy whose parents sent him off to military school, you’d think he’d have learned at least that.
Omnes Omnibus
What you saw today from the US Army was textbook malicious compliance. “You want a parade for your birthday when the rest of the army is getting a three day weekend to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the service and it’s on Fathers Day weekend. Okay, fine. There’s your parade. Happy now?”
Kristine
More than 4500 at the Gurnee IL rally this morning according to the Trib.
I carried a largish flag instead of a poster—there was a handful of us scattered about. A few folks flew them upside down.
My favorite sign was pretty simple, but effective. “We the people,” in classic calligraphy, followed by “are pissed off” in regular print.
Another Scott
Looks like they did the DC fireworks thing, based on the air quality monitors…
Yuck.
Best wishes,
Scott.
KrackenJack
My favorite that I didn’t get a picture of: “Veto the Cheeto”
Seanly
I thought I posted some photos from Boise, ID, but not seeing them. It was a very good turn out. Great energy in the crowd. A wide range of people – vets, young people, old people, people with kids. Wonderful to see so many Idahoans opposed to Trump
Also, a lot of flags – small, regular porch sized ones – a few of which were unside down.
Jackie
@prostratedragon:
He’s sleeping with boredom. Same face throughout his 34 felonies trial.
Redshift
@geg6:
From the reports I saw from people who went down there, it was embarrassingly small. Live coverage on the local news showing the sidewalk crowd on the parade route about five or six people deep in peak areas. Locals comparing the number of people on the sidewalk to lunch hour on a workday.
Jackie
@Seanly: I saw them earlier. Check back through the earlier posts. Maybe before the posts were labeled as dedicated protest threads?
eta unless someone else sent in Boise protest photos?
Redshift
@Shana: My friend who drove in from West Virginia around noon said there were protests in every overpass on I-66!
Chetan Murthy
@Jackie: He’s thinkin’ “this is no fun! I could be back in the White House having that Leavitt woman steam my trousers! What am I even DOING here?”
JiveTurkin
Headline:
Democrat John Fetterman Lauds Trump Military Parade as ‘Appropriate to Celebrate… Regardless of Your Politics
Maybe the Democrats shouldn’t wait for him to join the Republicans, just pre-emptively ask him to leave
Redshift
@geg6: I saw the expression on the faces of the marching soldiers described as “this parade could have been an email.”
Timill
@Seanly: Per @WaterGirl earlier, they are now scheduled as an On The Road post, so they’ve probably been deleted for now.
eclare
@WaterGirl:
I loved that too!
KrackenJack
Palo Alto organizers said 7k marched to the park and 8k at the park (including the marchers). We had Joan Baez singing, two US Representatives and a retired CA Supreme Court Justice talking. Had a Golden Retriever with a “No Tarifffs on Treats” sign.
jonas
@Lyrebird: For a long time POTUS’s did not salute men or women in uniform, like the WH Marine guards, but I think it was Reagan or GHW Bush who started doing it at some point and then it kind of became a thing. I’ve always thought it was inappropriate.
To see that draft-dodging, vet-smearing sack of shit stand there desultorily saluting troops on a dias that looks like it was left over from the set of some dystopian sci-fi B-movie about space fascists, is so sickening I can’t eat as much as I want to throw up.
Scout211
@Seanly: See #69 above.
ETA: or what Timill said at #90
Lyrebird
@Jackie: I think a commenter linked Boise photos near the top of another thread, maybe Baud or one of the Chicago-area commenters. @prostratedragon: was it you?
Excellent point! He apparently retained lots about uniforms. Not much else. And I want to thank you for sharing that health warning bit, a very Californian irony for sure.
@Chetan Murthy: re: saluting NorK general, yeah there really is no bottom with this *resident, is there.
Jay
prostratedragon
@Jackie: I meant Melania. Since he so obviously looks miserable. Nauta over his shoulder looks pretty concerned, as if watching for his cue to do something.
prostratedragon
@Lyrebird: Might have been, not sure. I did notice some Boise photos.
Jackie
@prostratedragon: They all look like they’d much rather be anywhere else. FFOTUS misses his bed.
Jay
RaflW
Might be my last item for this evening before I try and get some sleep:
Having watched the video of the tank rolling past the 60% empty stands, no music, no crowd engagement, nothing but =squeak squeak squeak= I thought: Can you IMAGINE if the Macy’s Thanksgiving parade audience was was so small & quiet you could hear the float wheels squeak?!
He’s presiding over a failure. Yes, one that will roll on and wreck countless lives. He still has very dangerous power because he has the office. But he – and his team – will face a worm that turned today.
Scout211
There may have been some TikTok ticket hijinks for the big birthday parade.
I’m not sure it made a big impact, but one can hope. The news media is giving the rain credit for the “much fewer than the expected 200,000” attendees. But if TikTok users had an impact, good for them.
Matt McIrvin
I think the lousy weather put a damper on the protest here, otherwise it likely would have been bigger than April, rather than a bit smaller… but we still got hundreds of people turning out and an overwhelmingly supportive audience of folks driving by.
(Yesterday was gorgeous, and we took the day off to coincide with our daughter’s day off, since she’s working weekends. But this morning it was pouring rain, and many people probably figured that would continue.)
Jay
Chetan Murthy
@Jay: I’m so old (really old) I can remember when LGF was the bad guys. That was a long time ago. A. Long. Time. Ago.
Lyrebird
Perfect description!
And yeah I think it was Reagan, speaking of B movies, and people who actually admired him thought it was jaunty or something.
I hope that the protest numbers help settle your stomach. Not at all bc you’re wrong to be nauseated, quite the opposite. Don’t want anyone on the side of truth to be undernourished!
Canadian Shield
@espierce: I believe he served in the reserves for a minimum hitch of 6 months so not a Vietnam vet. The song and sentiment are great though (just being a pedant)
Jay
@Chetan Murthy:
Yup, this place too.
Matt McIrvin
@Jay: I heard some warnings that the LAPD was looking for a fight earlier in the evening. This part sounds more like summer 2020 in Portland, but we’ll see if they want nightly pitched battles. I imagine the military encroaching on their turf complicates the issue.
Jay
JaySinWa
I fell asleep, so I got to my local protest in the last half hour. A suburb north of Seattle. Lined up 2-3 deep on one side of the Highway 99 for 5 city blocks. A few clusters on the other side of Highway. Hundreds at least. Pop ~ 58,000 but easy access to Seattle, and one of my neighbors was headed up north to a PBS tour guide personality protest, so other areas drawing from our locale, and this event had limited publicity.
George
Apparently there has been a shooting at the No Kings march in Salt Lake City, in case this info has not already been noted upthread.
Jackie
@Chetan Murthy:
Sadly, I’m old enough to remember those days. It was when I was searching blogs to see why the right was so gung-ho for the Iraq war. I eventually got fed up and stopped following them, and then one day I checked them out for some reason… and had to double check that I’d pulled up the right blog. And I still couldn’t believe Charles Johnson had done a 180.
ETA: It was during that time I discovered Balloon Juice.
Chetan Murthy
@George: https://kutv.com/news/local/person-of-interest-in-custody-after-shooting-during-salt-lake-no-kings-march
“One critically injured in shooting during ‘No Kings’ march in Salt Lake”
Chetan Murthy
@Jackie: It’s a lovely thing when somebody sees the light.
prostratedragon
Seeing some ridiculous crowd size estimates for some of the marches. Gauging the more spread out marches can be hard, but when looking at the massed demonstrations in larger cities, consider that MLB ball parks hold 40–50,000. A Wrigley crowd lined up more than 8 across would not stretch near a mile, or even half-mile, but in NYC, Chicago, Philly, San Diego, and other cities we see half-mile and more marches.
Another Scott
@Another Scott:
ALXNow story about the Alexandria VA rally with a 47 picture slideshow
It was a good event.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Chetan Murthy
@prostratedragon: i certainly don’t know how it’s done, but gosh it would seem like estimating crowd size should be straightforward. You get a drone high enough up take a whole bunch of photos in Rapid Fire sequence, stitch them together to make one very large panoramic, And then put a computer to work counting bodies. It doesn’t seem like the most complicated task. Maybe I’m missing something.
Jay
dnfree
Best sign I saw in the Chicago suburbs, on Golf Road near the roundabout:
NO FAUX-KING WAY!
We were at a grandchild’s college graduation (DePaul) and a fair number of graduates carried Palestinian flags or “Divest now” or “Free Gaza” signs they whipped out as they crossed the stage.
Chetan Murthy
@dnfree: I don’t think people my age appreciate the change in the way Israel is perceived by the young. My generation still sees Israel as the scrappy country that could, in the face of massive opposition. But the young know better.
Seanly
@WaterGirl:
Thanks!
Jay
Jackie
@Jay: link, please?
prostratedragon
@Chetan Murthy: One would think something like that would be the method. Aerial shots have been possible for a while, and you could get a crude estimate by calculating some sample densities or something. But official crowd size estimates have been regarded as jokes since the Civil Rights era. Indivisible have made their own estimates from available photos, and even those look likely to be conservative (eg. 75,000 in Chicago and 200,000 in NYC), though one can see why.
Geoduck
@dnfree: The “Faux-King” thing was on several signs at the Olympia WA rally. I wonder if one person came up with it and spread it, or if it was thought up separately.
Jay
Jay
@Jackie:
just type @realjakebroe.bsky.social into your browser.
JaySinWa
@Geoduck: I saw “No Faux King Way” here north of Seattle as well.
ETA apparently it has been commercialized in tee shirts:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=No+Faux+King+Way&t=newext&atb=v479-1&ia=images&iax=images
Jay
JoeyJoeJoe
@Chetan Murthy: A related article listed all of the protests in Utah. Apparently there was one in Kanab. That part of Utah is one of the most conservative parts of the country. Surprised there would be one there.
Nettoyeur
@espierce: I have the impression that the talented Fogerty has an ego the size of a minor planet.
Matt McIrvin
@Chetan Murthy: I’m so old I remember them from BEFORE they were the bad guys.
brantl
“make Fascism history again”; we’re trying to do it by burying it, and Stumpy’s trying to do it by revivifying it!
WaterGirl
@Seanly: Your photos are coming today. See my comment at #69.
WaterGirl
@Timill: Close. Most of them did use the OTR form, but they will be posted today as regular posts.
WaterGirl
@WaterGirl: Now I see that you had already seen that. So never mind!
Ruckus
@Baud:
He looks like he’s crying. And the guy a row behind him and on his left is looking like “What the hell (or fuck!) is going on”.
Ruckus
@prostratedragon:
I’ve only got 3 words.
“Holly fucking crap!”
That is a LOT of people.
Ruckus
@Sister Golden Bear:
When I was in the USN and had to march, THANKFULLY not very often, it was all by squad or company. No one marched in lines arranged by height. Squad is a few and a company was 70-90 people. Of course that was boot camp, once out of that we would not spend a lot of time marching around. Now at boot camp, next door to a Marine corp boot camp (8 ft high chain link fence, one on the USN side and one on the Marine side, with 18-24 in barbed wire arms on each side. (No one was climbing over either way) We’d get up in the morning and walk out the back door, facing the Marines, full packs, Springfield rifles at the ready, double timing in formation, and no one marched in lines arranged by height. From their barracks about a mile away, while we squids were just getting up and getting ready to go to chow. Good times….
SteverinoCT
@Ruckus: The only time I marched for reals in the USN was boot camp, and we fell in in height order, about 50 of us, and then went into three files to march. By day two we had pretty much established our place; by day five we learned to squat or stretch a bit to maximize our chances of being towards the front when marching to chow. Because we were done eating five minutes after the last man sat. After that, in schools, we would be given a break, and told to fall in at the next location. The brass got wise to that, and the classes after us had to do the marching. Not something that was very useful at sea.