BLAINE, Minn. (AP) — Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz says former state House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband were shot and killed in a politically motivated assassination, and a second lawmaker and his wife were shot and wounded. Authorities were actively searching for a suspect hours after the targeted killings.
“We must all, in Minnesota and across the country, stand against all forms of political violence,” Walz said at a press conference Saturday. “Those responsible for this will be held accountable.”
The wounded lawmaker was identified as state Sen. John Hoffman, a Democrat, was first elected in 2012. He previously served as vice chair of the Anoka Hennepin School Board, which manages the largest school district in Minnesota. Hoffman is married and has one daughter and represents a district north of Minneapolis.
Hortman had two children. Hoffman and his wife are out of surgery after suffering multiple gunshot wounds. There’s cautious optimism about their survival. The suspect was dressed as a police officer and one of the officials at the press conference said that if he had been standing in the room, everyone would have thought that he’s a cop. His vehicle looked like a police SUV.
Lord Fartdaddy (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
This has been inevitable for a long time. I’m only shocked it’s taken this ling.
Baud
He also shot the dog and has a manifesto. I hope the get him soon.
lowtechcyclist
Horrible.
Prayers for Hoffman and his wife, and for both their and the Hortmans’ families.
MN Grubert
Im in MAGA part of MN today. For what’s supposed to be a “happy occasion.”
Not smiling.. looking pissed and hostile.
Matt McIrvin
Are we sure he wasn’t a cop?
debit
If they have his car, they know who it is.
The Thin Black Duke
I will never forgive the stupid MFers who stayed home in November. Damn them.
@heymistermix.com
The Thin Black Duke
@@heymistermix.com: Mission Accomplished.
lowtechcyclist
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raven
@debit: They have “a” car.
columbusqueen
How much longer before our side has no choice but to shoot back when attackec?
debit
@raven: It’s either a cop car or a car heavily modded to look like a cop car. Either way, they’re going to know who owns the vehicle.
ETA: and if it’s a cop car, one presumes they’ll know who last had the keys.
Jackie
The shooter was on foot and exchanged fire with police officers. Hopefully he was wounded, which would make him more noticeable.
Elizabelle
Good to see you, MMix, but oh what a terrible occasion.
Trump’s statement declined to mention those shot were Democrats. But “Our Attorney General” is right on it. Fuck that a-hole
Although. I do think this will help ruin his birthday. It’s inconvenient, at a minimum.
Elizabelle
@Jackie: I hope he is wounded, but maybe body armor.
Betty Cracker
From NYT reporter Ernesto Londoño in Minneapolis:
Fucking hell.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
“Our Attorney General is right on it” means nothing will happen at the federal level other than statements about lone-wolf, if only those feckless Dems had AR-15s, etc.
I’m torn about Walz’s statement regarding the rallies today. Yeah, it’s the usual and good “public safety” message but what this does is chilling, meaning the right has ways of shutting down peaceful public protest thru political violence and it’s second and third-order effects. It’s impossible to tell people to ignore that but then, a bold show of defiance in the face of violence like this is what marchers were doing in the 50s, 60s and 70s.
As I said in the previous thread, the historical echoes to Nazi Germany in the 30s are obvious.
cope
LGM has a graphic of the make up of the Minnesota legislature. Their house has (had) an equal number of Ds and Rs, their senate has a one vote majority of Ds. It will be sehr interessant to read the “manifesto”.
Trivia Man
@@heymistermix.com: i am seeing comments from Minnesota saying, “Stay away? Hell no. Protest harder.”
Elizabelle
Great sign on a WaPost photo of protests:
TS
@raven: They know who owns the car – they found him at the 2nd house, exchanged shots but he got away, leaving the car. They know who they are looking for. Said as much at the press conference
Elizabelle
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: It’s an interesting problem, because you want to provide more protection for the No Kings protesters, but you also need that law enforcement in the hunt for an assassin.
No good answers there. I wonder if the National Guard could be there to protect the rallies?
And Gawd, is it going to be a mess if this gunman had any connection to law enforcement. Maybe he was not admitted, or washed out, or is a wannabe. Or a J6 pardoned felon.
Ishiyama
They can’t kill the People. “Next
manperson up” will fill her shoes.TS
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
I hope the FBI are well away from the capture & he is taken by state police. I trust them to take him alive.
Mai Naem mobile
@debit: all you have to do is buy one of the old cars they have at the state/counry/city surplus auctions. I’ll be driving and notice what I think is a cop car behind me and as soon as they do by me I’ll figure out it’s obviously an old cop car the person’s bought from one of these auctions.
Elizabelle
@Ishiyama: Proud that your relatives are en route to the rally. (Think you told us they are taking a bus?)
cope
I was going to add this observation to Betty’s post about her protest experience but since she appears to have taken it down (understandably considering recent events)…
The weather is looking pretty grim for DC this afternoon. In fact, they are under a flood watch through this evening.
https://www.wunderground.com/hourly/us/dc/washington/38.90,-77.04
Mai Naem mobile
@TS: i wouldn’t trust Pam Bondi or Kash Patel on this. Bondi will give him a get out of free card like she did with Epstein.
Madeleine
@The Thin Black Duke: good to see you.
Ishiyama
@Elizabelle: Yes, taking a bus to avoid parking problems. My brother is very politically active, although he is even older than me.
S Cerevisiae
We are in Northeast Minneapolis just a short drive from the suburbs where this happened, this shit’s really getting scary. I hope everyone outside the Twin Cities shows up in gargantuan numbers, don’t let the fuckers scare us off everywhere but I think things are going to be very subdued around here.
The Thin Black Duke
@Madeleine: Thank you. I need to be with my community right now.
Jackie
@Elizabelle: Body armor was mentioned, but wouldn’t his legs be accessible? Ordinarily, I’d want him taken alive, but I wouldn’t put it pass FFOTUS to pardon him – if he qualifies for federal charges.
GOD, I HATE what Trump and his ilk are turning me into :-(
JoyceH
@Mai Naem mobile: If they know who he is, killing him won’t help them. His social media and manifesto will make his allegiance clear. Just hope the news doesn’t downplay his motivation like they usually do for a Trumper.
Geo Wilcox
@Baud: They should have gotten him THERE. They did not station people at the back to catch him as he escaped. Really shitty work.
mrmoshpotato
@cope: Hopefully it rains on the orange manbaby’s birthday party today.
We all know he doesn’t want to get his cotton candy combover wet.
The Thin Black Duke
Take a look at what that pig MTG posted.
Jackie
@Elizabelle:
There’s a more than good chance Gov Walz knows people are going to be more determined to rally than ever, so hopefully he has the MN National Guard on the phone and on standby?
RaflW
@The Thin Black Duke: Lots of people in my network are going anyway.
RaflW
@Jackie: Capitol police said at the morning Walz presser that security will be upped. Walz and Lt Gov Flannagan were on the speaker list, and of course that’s off, but I think he’s threading the needle of a careful governor. It’s a recommendation, and the capitol grounds are open and people are there now.
Jackie
@The Thin Black Duke: MAGA B****! Sure glad people are ripping into her for that 😡
Fair Economist
@Jackie: Murder is a state level crime.
I expect there are some relevant federal statutes, and, as you say, Trump will let him off on those one way or another. But first degree murder will be enough.
Baud
someone got his birthday wish, to speak with this hero.
schrodingers_cat
@The Thin Black Duke: Be careful. People, criticizing them and those who urged people not to vote were called despicable on this very blog in the comments last week.
RevRick
@Lord Fartdaddy (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
This is a the Democrats’ Emmett Till moment, because it illuminates the utter depravity of the GOP. By his pardoning of the January 6th rioters and by his ugly rhetoric at Fort Bragg, Trump pointed the gun. And by their silent refusal to denounce the pardons and the rhetoric every GOP politician is complicit.
Melissa Hortman’s name should be raised every day.
Baud
Baud
S Cerevisiae
@RaflW: We were planning on going over there on the light rail but with the bastard still on the loose my anxiety would have been cranked to 11 if I would’ve gone to the protest. I was actually looking forward to going too.
Elizabelle
@Baud: I hope they have done welfare checks on everyone on the list.
Eyeroller
@Baud: I had a feeling it was going to be a “Democrats should die because they kill babies” nutjob.
Wilson Heath
@Baud: surely a non-ideological mentally ill person not responding to the clarion call for political violence.
/s
The Thin Black Duke
@schrodingers_cat: I don’t care what they think. I know what time it is.
trollhattan
@Elizabelle: I’ll presume each has officers guarding them until he’s caught, or have been moved to a safe space.
Elizabelle
I hope the assassin does not have possible accomplices. That could account for canceling the No Kings events.
A Lone Wolf is dreadful. A team or cell even more so (although also more chance to infiltrate one).
trollhattan
@Baud: 70? I like unrealistic ambition in 12YOs, not growed-ups.
schrodingers_cat
@The Thin Black Duke: Yeah that’s why the name calling.
RevRick
@Lord Fartdaddy (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
This is a the Democrats’ Emmett Till moment, because it illuminates the utter depravity of the GOP. By his pardoning of the January 6th rioters and by his ugly rhetoric and at Fort Bragg, Trump pointed the gun. And by their silent refusal to denounce the pardons and the rhetoric every GOP politician is complicit.
Melissa Hortman’s name should be raised every day.
Elizabelle
@The Thin Black Duke: Agreed. Fuck them.
And great to see you. Stay strong.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@schrodingers_cat: I wonder if they still think that’s despicable now.
Elizabelle
I would bet Pope Leo might say something about this. Or lead a prayer.
trollhattan
@debit:
That’s what a Canadian spree killer did several years ago.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61300308
schrodingers_cat
@Interesting Name Goes Here: This was just this week.
trollhattan
@Baud:
“Daddy, what should I do?”
“Raise price of oil more, Donny.”
Elizabelle
Joe Biden’s statement on Twitter:
Interesting Name Goes Here
@schrodingers_cat: Oh, I know, because I was the one she was talking about.
Elizabelle
CNN item:
Again, no mention that those killed and wounded were Democrats. By Biden either.
Makes me wonder if there were some Republican politicians’ names on that list. Perhaps Minnesota still has some moderate GOP or GOP who support abortion rights; I honestly do not know.
Or trying to downplay that this was very much directed at one political party. Time will tell.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Now at Denver rally. Festive in a defiant way. Lots of horn honking. It’s celebratory in a way. Have no idea how many people know what happened in MN.
tobie
Does the political motive make these horrible murders acts of terrorism? If so, I want members of the Trump admin charged for incitement. Hey, John Roberts: is inciting political violence covered by your immunity ruling?
Baud
Juliet
We were recently moved out of Hoffman’s district due to new boundaries. Have met him and Melissa numerous times. They are both very open to new ideas and suggestions. There are many people of color in their districts and John would be at many dinners and events to meet and greet.
Omnes Omnibus
I am leaving to go to the Madison event. I am going to skip the march down State St and go straight to the rally site at the Capitol. I’ll wear a Brewer t-shirt and sunglasses so it should be easy to spot me.
Stay safe, everyone.
different-church-lady
But hey, it’s the guy yelling questions at Nazi Barbie who needs to be in handcuffs…
scav
Ya know, just maybe the most important thing right now isn’t how we personally were treated (or think we were treated) on this blog. Wild idea I know.
different-church-lady
@The Thin Black Duke: I ain’t gonna forgive them, and I ain’t gonna forgive the morons who played right into the psyops so badly they took all the fight out of them.
different-church-lady
@scav: Wait, there’s something more important than my personal feelings? What an odd concept…
cain
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
I used to live E. 19th Street close to where political rallys used to be had. So I know what kind of ruckus to be had there. Go denverites!
scav
@different-church-lady: The merest of slim possibilities I admit.
Baud
@different-church-lady:
yes. my personal feelings.
different-church-lady
@Baud: No wonder this nation is divided…
Scout211
@Baud: Here’s a photo of the flyers inside his car. They do suggest that the plan was to infiltrate some of the protests. Scary.
ETA: The link goes to the CNM live updates. I guess you have to scroll down. The state police posted the photo.
Aziz, light!
New York Post has identified the shooter as Vance Luther Boelter, appointed by Walz in 2019 to serve a 4-year term on the Governor’s Workforce Development Board.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
The text of Trump’s official statement (according to KOS)
That doesn’t read like Trump wrote it.
JoyceH
@RevRick: the name Melissa Hortman should be spoken in front of cameras as often as the name Laken Riley.
Professor Bigfoot
Has ANY Republican said word one? Anywhere?
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Professor Bigfoot: See 83, which reads like Trump chief of staff wrote it, and the Republican Speaker of the Minnesota House of Representatives condemn the shootings.
Jackie
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: He most undoubtedly didn’t. FFOTUS is more than likely at his golf course.
Baud
Some good news. in the last hour, the forecast for DC this evening got worse.
O. Felix Culpa
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
One of the t-shirts at the rally we attended this morning read “Resist like it’s Germany in 1938.”
gene108
I hope they survive. I hope the damage does not lead to severe debilitating conditions.
tobie
@Aziz, light!: Laffy on Mastodon quotes Minnesota native Norm Ornstein from Bluesky. He disputes the NY Post story.
Sister Golden Bear
@Aziz, light!: MSM ”BOTH SIDES!!!” In 3,2,1…
ETA: I see tobie beat me to it.
Citizen Alan
@The Thin Black Duke:
Can’t see w/o a Facebook account. Summarize?
Eyeroller
Some on Reddit are claiming he founded a security company called Pretorian Guards Security Services. So he’d have had skills and equipment
And of course he never “worked for Walz” he was just on some “workforce development” task force. If he was a business owner that could explain that appointment.
tobie
@Sister Golden Bear: Ornstein says the NYPost story is untrue. This is what he’s learned from his sources about the shooter:
zhena gogolia
@Citizen Alan: MTG in shorts aiming a military gun of some sort.
Scout211
from a local news station KSTP
tobie
@Sister Golden Bear: no competition, my friend!
P.S. follow up on my post yesterday: my 96-year-old mom handled her surgery well! I can return to my own life now.
Jackie
@tobie: Deliberate misinformation is what I assumed – especially as that’s not being reported by reputable news sources.
Eyeroller
@tobie: I just posted something above, he was apparently the owner of a security company called (ugh) Pretorian Guards Security Services, so I’ll keep in mind that might turn out to be untrue. But if it’s correct, it could explain a lot. And he could have been appointed to some generic “workforce development” task force just because he was a small-business owner who might hire people.
Harrison Wesley
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Ah,yes. mAGatma Bondi
Jackie
@zhena gogolia:
Posted AFTER the shootings.
Harrison Wesley
@JoyceH: I think that only works if Our Liberal Media choose to broadcast it.
trollhattan
@zhena gogolia: When she grows up MTG wants to be just like Kyle Rittenhouse. Also have her own Jewish Space Laser.
trollhattan
{golfclap} Stuck the landing, you has.
gene108
@Geo Wilcox:
From what I have read so far is police responded to the shooting at Rep. Melissa Hortman’s house, and then someone there had a flash of intuition, and sent a patrol car to Sen. John Hoffman’s house. The two police officers found the suspect, who ran back into the house. He started shooting at police officers. The police officers took cover, and returned fire. The suspect then ran out the back.
Honestly, the police so far seem to be managing the situation without any obvious screw ups.
trollhattan
@Eyeroller:
Detail dribble continues. CNN:
“By people in the US Military” hanging a big fat one over the plate here.
MagdaInBlack
@zhena gogolia: I suppose that’s her maga “gun-bunny” glamour photo. She sure is a shit stirrer, isn’t she?
Harrison Wesley
@trollhattan: Yeah. Not ‘served in the US military,’ Received training to do… what, exactly?
Jackie
Here’s some lighter and humorous news:
Love that MAGAs were basically a no-show LOL
Eyeroller
@trollhattan: Apparently he was fscking around doing “security” in the Democratic Republic of the Congo for a while also. Before that he did “consulting” for convenience-store chains, which he may have continued alongside the “Praetorian Guards” company.
Reddit also claims that his social media is (shocked Pikachu, is that what the kids say) Christian Nationalist anti-abortion fanatic. But Reddit has been rather notoriously wrong at times so we’ll wait for further confirmation.
But nobody should be allowed to spin that he “worked for Walz,” he was just on some county-level workforce council.
gene108
@Jackie:
Is it me or is this sentence very confusing to others the way it is written?
me
@trollhattan: Huh, “Praetorian Guard Security”? Didn’t live up to the name.
Eyeroller
@gene108: I think it was the other way around, they first responded at the Hoffman residence and something made them go to the Hortman residence. There may have been somebody at the Hoffman house who was able to talk to the responders. When the cops arrived at the Hortman’s, apparently Mr. Hortman was already dead and they had a shootout with the perp who then escaped out the back door. I don’t know whether Mrs. Hortman was also dead at the scene or died later.
Matt McIrvin
@Jackie: We got about 10-15 MAGA counterprotesters at our protest this time. They kept to one streetcorner near City Hall and waved huge Trump flags. Fortunately neither they nor the protesters started any shit, as far as I could tell, though nobody was separating them from the crowd that completely surrounded them.
JML
It’s just been a horrible day. Evil acts committed by an evil person. Hope he doesn’t manage to hurt anyone else, but I’m just crushed to lose Melissa and Mark Hortman. I’m not going to pretend to be a good friend of them, but I knew Melissa and worked with her on more than a few campaigns, and continued to work with her in my union life. They were just good people. The fact that she could be assassinated in MN just doesn’t feel real.
Melissa Hortman was a remarkable political leader, too. She navigated her way through a very delicate political crisis when the GOP decided to go for a power grab rather than abide by the power-sharing agreement she had negotiated when the State House split 67-67. Despite enormous pressure, she kept her caucus united, helped block the GOP from overturning the results of a close election, and got the power-sharing agreement restored with almost no concessions. Just the most recent example of how smart, decisive, and strong-willed she was as a leader. Even though the DFL lost seats in the House that cost her the Speakership, there was never any question of her stepping aside as leader, because she was just that good.
state legislators don’t get a lot of publicity, and they’re frequently poorly paid, understaffed, and overworked. But Melissa was one of the best I’ve ever seen. Even when she moved into leadership, she stayed closely connected to her district.
She will NOT be forgotten.
Jackie
37% Approval Rating!
The Thin Black Duke
What happens next is going to be important.
schrodingers_cat
@The Thin Black Duke: In Minnesota or nationally?
The Thin Black Duke
@schrodingers_cat: Nationally. What happens next will define us as a country. It’s fork-in-the-road time.
Harrison Wesley
@Jackie: Huh? A Trump bro who thinks everyone’s got a right to conduct peaceful protests? Next you’ll tell me there’s an earthworm with opposable thumbs.
trollhattan
Like, that’s his occupation?
Kosh III
I want him captured alive and his interrogation to be conducted by someone competent like Baron Vladimir(how appropriate) Harkonnen.
Jackie
@Harrison Wesley:
I think because he was alone and didn’t have a mob of MAGAT courage behind him to bolster him, he decided to play nice.
;-D
Betty Cracker
@JML: Wow, then she was an amazing person, the kind we can’t afford to lose. What a horrible, senseless tragedy. I’m so sorry.
Jackie
@Betty Cracker: I just heard on CNN, she threw herself over her daughter, saving her life. Her daughter was unharmed. 😢
Mike in Pasadena
@TS: Were the cops who exchanged gunfire and let the gunman escape from among those cops fired at Uvalde?
Juju
@MagdaInBlack: She is a shit stirrer, but also just an awful person to her very core. She has no concept of what the families of the victims are going through right now, and isn’t capable of thinking it might not be a good time to post this picture, not that there ever really is a good time to post a picture like that.
eclare
@Jackie:
That breaks my heart.
WaterGirl
@Interesting Name Goes Here: I don’t know who said that last week, or earlier this week, but I will point out that anyone can express their opinion, and that doesn’t mean that anyone else on the blog agrees with it.
It can be helpful to remember that.
The Thin Black Duke
Santiago Mayer:
Tehanu
I can’t even …
Harrison Wesley
@Mike in Pasadena: The Uvalde SWAT team? The guys whose motto it was that “Hey,a man could get hurt?”
Eyeroller
@Juju: I’ve read that the Hoffmans’ 23-year-old daughter was there and apparently Mrs. Hoffman threw herself in front of the daughter. MTG is beneath contempt. I have heard that Mr. Hoffman is expected to survive but have seen no update on his wife, and nothing at all about the daughter.
And the perp may have been a part-time “pastor” as well. Surprised Pikachu face again.
JML
@Betty Cracker: Melissa Hortman really was amazing. She will be greatly missed. Smart and tough, but also compassionate and funny.
@Jackie: I think that was actually Yvette Hoffman who threw herself over her daughter? But there’s a lot of conflicting information right now.
Sadly, MSNBC is still pretending that this scumbag “might” have been planning to “participate” in a No Kings rally. There’s just no way that someone who assassinated the DFL leader of the MN State House would be a supporter of No Kings. Zero chance. Guess they got their corporate marching orders.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Back from the local No Kings rally. I can’t estimate crowd numbers, but there were way more than I expected. One guy showed up with a Trump flag, and the speaker urged people to react with kindness, Which they did
caphilldcne
@Baud: if it pours like it did last night that’ll make for a very soggy parade. I’m assuming lightning cancels it. Sorry for the army guys. They didn’t deserve to have their 250th anniversary upended.
schrodingers_cat
@Interesting Name Goes Here: Ah yes!
They Call Me Noni
Such tragic news out of Minnesota. This damned administration has constantly encouraged sick people to act upon their worst instincts.
Dorothy A. Winsor
I should say that at my local rally was a giant, inflatable chicken
schrodingers_cat
@The Thin Black Duke: Which Democratic Congresswoman got indicted?
raven
@JML: Yea that’s why they have Jacob Soboroff waking around interviewing people in LA at the demonstration. Get a grip.
The Thin Black Duke
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@O. Felix Culpa:
I took a picture of that exact sign at the rally. Now home. It’s 96 out there. Long march, lotsa people.
raven
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Ours is in an hour and big storms are predicted.
WTFGhost
@WaterGirl: @WG, I’m springboarding here, because I also wanted to call something out.
I’ve seen a mention here or there, in a passive-aggressive way, about some incident some night(s) ago, and it bugged me in a group/family dynamics way.
And, rather than wanting to say “that’s a suboptimal response,” I realized it’s better to come up with a better one, and the only thing I came up with was “Yes, I said something similar (or “feel the same way…” or “saw someone express that…”), who took a lot of heat for it.”
And that might evoke a different response, validating a person or point of view. It also might let someone who was on the wrong side acknowledge that maybe things got too personal, or, that they felt they were taking a lot of heat, too/already, etc..
Meh. That makes sense to me, but I’m neurodivergent, stoned half out of my gourd (thankfully, it’s a very large gourd), and still giggling because I saw someone play a bit of misery poker to be judgmental, which always gets me giggly.
So YMMV, California mileage usually lower.
schrodingers_cat
@The Thin Black Duke: Thanks. I had missed it somehow.
Nelle
@The Thin Black Duke: They seem to think that weapons only fire in one direction, at their opponents.
Sister Golden Bear
@JML: Participate, target…. it’s a such a fine line. /s
Jackie
@JML:
I didn’t take that as SUPPORTING No Kings; I took as meaning to possibly open fire on the protesters. There are photographed images of handmade No Kings signs found in his vehicle.
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
My parents went to their rally in Grand Rapids, MI. They’re both in their ’80s and this is the first protest they’ve ever been to. Kind of feel like that means something.
Dad hated Nixon, loved Carter, and has always voted for Democrats. Mom is more of a normie – usually votes for Democrats but wants to “keep an open mind” and vote for “the best candidate, whichever party they’re from”. She used to be enamored of Brooks and Shields, which says everything. But SHE went to the protest and she walks with a cain and it takes her like 35-40 minutes to walk around the block.
People who don’t normally get all that mad about politics are starting to get pretty pissed off.
Baud
Gretchen
gene108
@Mike in Pasadena:
The police seem to be doing a competent job handling this so far. I do not see a reason to reflexively criticize them.
.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: Wow. Tears.
I’m totally exhausted from 30 minutes of being at a rally. I don’t know why it’s so emotional.
The Thin Black Duke
@zhena gogolia: It’s confirmation that humanity isn’t a failed experiment.
Miki
From the Helping Paws Facebook post about Melissa Hortman and her husband and their dog:
eclare
@The Thin Black Duke:
Don’t forget arson at the Gov’s mansion. I know you didn’t, the writer did.
prostratedragon
Gurnee, Illinois
Soprano2
@tobie: I’ve already seen that misinformation on FB. Those assholes…….
trollhattan
@Jackie:
Is Minnesota an open carry state? Dude may have had infiltration in mind. “Oh hey, you’ve got the sign and I can ignore your AF-15.”
Jay
Jay
@trollhattan:
https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/state/minnesota/
Harrison Wesley
@Jay: Looking for work? Guess he found it.
Mel
@tobie: I’m so glad that her surgery went well.
geg6
@different-church-lady:
Come sit by me. I have a nice Pinot noir I can share.
WTFGhost
@trollhattan: I swear to god, righties might regret open carry and SYG, if liberals truly felt they needed to be armed for protection.
When it comes to guns, the people who think of them as very dangerous, very deadly, tools whip those who think they’re flamboyant toys and political statements. When it comes to war, those who are pissed off that they have to think about it, whip those who think it’ll be “fun” and “glorious”. Or to put it more simply, adults whip Republicans.
geg6
@eclare:
I sure as hell won’t forget the attack on my governor and his family. That was almost a tragedy. Thankfully, they got out and got the fire under control before the whole place went up.
Trivia Man
@Omnes Omnibus: sorry we missed you, i was the guy on the sidewalk with an American flag. But my count the march took about 1:10 to pass any given point
O. Felix Culpa
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: My favorite sign today was “Alexa, change the president.”
MazeDancer
@What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?:
Wow. Guess they’re a little old for Vietnam protests. And then had their hands full parenting.
But big props to them for showing up.
Eyeroller
@Jackie: For most people “participate” would have the implication of “support.” JFC even the cops were saying they think he may have been planning a mass-casualty event. MSNBC should have been able to come up with a better word or phrase, something like “show up to” perhaps.
WaterGirl
Horrible event, but glad to see this post here mistermix.
Kathleen
@Professor Bigfoot: Allison Russo (Dem Minority Leader) quote retweeted tweet from DeWine.
YY_Sima Qian
Attempt on Gabrielle Giffords, attempt on Paul Pelosi, attempt on Steve Scalise, attempt on Donald Trump, the trend is not good, & propelled overwhelmingly by the reactionaries.
Jackie
@Eyeroller: What part of this did you not READ???