E. Jean Carroll has a belated birthday gift for TACO Don. Happy Birthday, TACO Don!
Even better than besting TACO Don with the book (surprise!) is the fact that both the verdict and the award were upheld by a Federal Court on Friday. Maybe you guys talked about that here, but if you did, I missed it.
Gotta love the AP headline:
Appeals court won’t reconsider ruling that Trump must pay E. Jean Carroll $5M in sex abuse case
Open thread.
Baud
Put a lien on Mar-a-Lago.
Kosh III
I hope she gets the money from this and the 83 million from the other case, and SOON. How much is Mar-al-Lrgo worth?
Ya beat me to it Baud!
Baud
Scout211
IANAL, so does this mean the verdict stands or can he appeal to SCOTUS? I read the AP article in the link above but it doesn’t say.
Baud
WaterGirl
Whenever I can, I am trying to link to stories from the AP rather than from the formerly prestigious toilet paper outlets.
Baud
@Scout211:
He can ask SCOTUS to take it up.
WaterGirl
@Scout211: Paging our BJ attorneys.
I think every article about legal proceedings should have to include the possible next steps, or the fact that it’s the end of the road.
Jackie
Thanks, WaterGirl! The video interview is great! E Jean Carroll has such a wicked sense of humor! FFOTUS definitely picked the wrong woman to sexually assault ie rape!
Scout211
Thanks Baud. Not what I wanted to hear because he will, most likely.
Kirk
@Baud: I don’t think Netanyahu can stop if he wants to, and I don’t have reason to believe he wants to. Especially if he believes reinforcements (EU and US forces) are on the way.
WereBear
@WaterGirl: Thank you!
Baud
@Kirk:
Some people think this situation will enable the Iranian dissidents to overthrow the regime. May be too juicy an opportunity to pass up.
Doc H
I learned who Molly J-F’s mom was all of 2 days ago. In with the Vanity Fair set, I am not. :D
WaterGirl
@Doc H: I have no idea. Spill!
Kirk
@Baud: Yes. I think they’re wrong, of course. It appears that in addition to primary leaders and scientists, Mossad’s assassination teams focused on moderating voices. Hard-core anti-Israel voices were left largely untouched.
Jackie
From the video interview:
Steve LaBonne
Sunday in the Park with Stalin
Mark
@WaterGirl: Erica Jong.
eclare
Yay!
zhena gogolia
@WaterGirl: Erica Jong, who wrote a big bestseller about sex, Fear of Flying, but who according to her daughter is now in dementia. The Vanity Fair article was pretty distasteful.
Geminid
@Kirk: My understanding is that Israel is concentrating on damaging the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps and its leadership. Those are not moderating voices; they are among the most hard-core anti-Israeli actors of all. They’re the ones who operate Iran’s ballistic missiles, and their Quds Force managed operations in Syria and Lebanon.
Scout211
Some hopeful news for libraries.
First, this is a positive step for restoring library funding.
Second, we still have federal government watchdogs?
Elizabelle
I love, love, love the towel swathed dogs in the respite photo today.
They know they are special.
Leto
@Baud: from the article:
Even in normal times I wouldn’t like this caveat, but triple so now. Petty dictator move.
Baud
@Leto:
It wouldn’t be so bad if we had a president that didn’t take bribes.
Captain C
@Baud: 7-2 in Carroll’s favor, with Justice RV’s dissent saying that it’s OK for men to do anything to women and Justice Inquisitor-Wannabe quoting
St. Odo of Cluny on the isomorphism of women and sacks of dung.(edited as apparently Odo was only venerated)
stinger
Seems to me that if a higher court lets a lower court ruling stand, that should be the end of it. If a decision is overturned, then it makes sense to appeal up another level, get two out of three decisions that agree. This endlessly appealing upward no matter what — isn’t that a waste of judicial resources?
stinger
@WaterGirl: Appreciate that!
Shalimar
@Baud: Would this be a good thing? I don’t know the current players in Iran, but dissidents overthrowing the regime is exactly what happened in 1979. It was not a good thing. Things can always get worse, until we’re dead.
JoyceH
Last night I heard on the news that the feds were considering federal charges for Boelter, and I immediately thought, “try the state charges first because the president can’t pardon those”. Man, I hate living in a timeline where you even have to wonder if the president would pardon murder because the victims were Democrats.
Leto
@Captain C: things I learn on BJ that Odo, from Deep Space 9, went from a shapeshifter god to venerated earth saint; what a ride!
Shalimar
@stinger: It can definitely be a waste of resources, which is why the higher court refuses to consider the appeal well over 90% of the time. Right to appeal is not the same as right to have appeal ruled on.
stinger
@Elizabelle: Yes!!
stinger
@Shalimar: Sure, but how many would deny a request from a sitting president?
Jackie
@JoyceH:
And the assassin voted for FFOTUS.
That is always good for a pardon. OR for getting federal charges outright dismissed.
laura
@WaterGirl: She just wrote one hell of a gut wrenching memoir and it’s running up best seller lists all over the place. If you’ve had a difficult mother/daughter relationship, if you’ve been dealing with alcohol and drug addiction, if you’ve experienced the long goodbye that is dementia or alzheimers, then this book is for you. I just finished it and am feeling some things. I prefer audio books when the author narrates because you can be sure the the tone, intonation and emphasis are accurate and intimate. In conclusion, that Molly Jong Fast Did the Thing. Big ups for How to lose your Mother
And good on E. Jean Carroll for getting over on that rapist who’s still on the loose.
Parfigliano
@Kirk: It’s like the Israeli rabid dog named Mossad has zero interest in peace.
Jackie
Some fun headlines this morning:
WaterGirl
@Mark: @zhena gogolia:
Thank you.
WaterGirl
@Scout211:
ssshhh. :-)
WaterGirl
@Elizabelle: Yes, I thought we needed these sweet pups today. We should all be so pampered and good-natured.
I got to have them here without their parents for 10 days when they were just 4 months old, serious bonding time!
catclub
They look a bit embarrassed to me.
catclub
@Jackie:
That will include every tiny town in Vermont.
WaterGirl
@catclub: Knowing those pups well, I can confidently say “not in the slightest!”
They were cold and wet and covered with warm towels. They probably thought they were at a spa. :-)
They Call Me Noni
@JoyceH: You don’t have to wonder.
artem1s
@Jackie:
I hate living in a timeline where I have to wonder if this political assignation was specifically targeted to make Walz look weak or as part of a larger assignation attempt that was cut short. There was a list of 70 people on the hit list. Walz had been very vocal about the Pug Ugly bill and ICE and other things. The GQP cannot imagine that someone would actually fight for their constituents without some ulterior motive like setting themselves up for an election run. I’m quite sure the GQP would love to eliminated Walz as a future Democratic Senator or POTUS candidate.
The longer the perp remains at large, the more likely it is he’s being helped to escape and was part of a larger conspiracy to upset the balance of MN politics.
BellaPea
@Captain C: I seriously doubt the Supreme Court wants to take up such a controversial and much-debated case. Roberts is starting to get some harsh criticism, including from Justice Brown, about showing favoritism to Trump. This would be a very bad PR look for the Supremes.
Soprano2
@Shalimar: It’s a little-known fact that the more liberal dissidents allied with the hardliners – you know, that “enemy of my enemy” stuff – in the late ’70’s. It ended poorly for the liberal dissidents.
WTFGhost
@Scout211: You can always appeal to the SCOTUS, if you’re their bestest friend Trump. But the case was pretty unshakable; the Constitution states that a jury verdict can’t be questioned, and there are no real grounds for appeal, save possibly for incompetent defendant, and I think it’s the *attorney*, not the defendant, that needs to be incompetent, for an appeal to succeed
NB: Not an attorney, but when an appeals court won’t even consider a case, it usually means they don’t want to waste the court’s time rubberstamping the prior decision. Your appeal has to have a basis in law, saying something was excluded that shouldn’t have been, or included that shouldn’t have been, and, more importantly for this kind of case, it has to be something so big the court can find that no reasonable jury would have made the same verdict, had the error been corrected during the trial.
Otherwise, the jury verdict wins.
WTFGhost
Is it wrong that I ponder whether it would be better, were she (Alina Habba, that is…) covered in commercially valuable fur, so hunters would bash her brains in, without hurting actual baby seals, who rarely aid and abet serial killers, though, if they’ve seen their twin sis cruelly murdered, sometimes they Go Bad, and you do not want to face an angry seal gone bad.
(AHEM)
AN ANGRY SEAL GONE BAD!!! (fanfare plays, slightly off key. It’s hard to find good help these days.)
@Scout211: You know the Trump admin is trying to “take them to the vet to be *tutored*” but they do exist, and thankfully, are still useful and intact.
@Baud: and just to own the libs, they pretend they’re being “transparent” about the corruption, so it’s okay.
@Captain C: Sorry, sacks of dung would require an alimentary canal to have a true isomorphism. There are few things more pedantic than a stoned mathematician whose very brain is rattling with trump this morning, “trump” being my new term for totally useless, yet aggravating, and far too meaningful, pains.
cain
@WTFGhost: Likely argue from a constitutional point of view that the constitution is wrong in this because he is the president and above all of this.
prostratedragon
“We have Alina Habba, esquire, […]” I can’t go on!
TONYG
@Baud: I’d like to see them confiscate ALL of that asshole’s property. But maybe that would result in a gunfight with the Secret Service.
Betty
@Baud: Why does my slide right always says I am doing it wrong?
Doc H
@WaterGirl:
Erica “Fear of Flying” Jong! Molly J-F has a book out and did an intvu with Terry Gross.
fancycwabs
So does Don Hankey’s bond get sent to Carroll’s bank account immediately or what?
Gloria DryGarden
@cain: the customer is always right. But trump a. Isn’t right about much and b. He isn’t a customer.
One might, on a tangent, say he’s consuming us, or is all consuming. Buy we are not here to serve him , or to provide customer service.
it would be great to get that throug( his thick head.
Gloria DryGarden
YES