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There’s Too Much News

by John Cole|  June 17, 202512:21 pm| 216 Comments

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I can’t keep up. There is so much going on that I can only gain a superficial understanding of so many issues and not enough to speak confidently on the matter, and every day there is something new. I want to go back to when my biggest problem was making sure I was understanding the statistics and being glad I stopped stats and math classes before applied multivariate analysis and matrix algebra. Fuck that shit, it’s for smart people.

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    1. 1.

      They Call Me Noni

      June 17, 2025 at 12:27 pm

      There is a lot right now, but at least some of it is good!  And as for stats?  I was forced to take two semesters of statistics in college and barely passed.  I memorized the formulas but couldn’t grasp when to use which one and don’t know that I ever had to use it afterwards (thankfully).

      I’m too old to even know what matrix algebra is but I do know debits and credits and can tell time on a clock with actual hands.  And read cursive.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      Old Man Shadow

      June 17, 2025 at 12:29 pm

      I too enjoyed the days when I could just ignore the government and realize that competent people had things under control.

      But noooooooo, we couldn’t have that. That was boring. Look at how old Biden is! So old! Wouldn’t you all like government by rabid, ketamine chaos monkeys? How exciting that’ll be!

      Fucking Americans.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      suzanne

      June 17, 2025 at 12:30 pm

      Like the sign reads….. if Kamala was president, we could all be at brunch!

      Reply
    4. 4.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 12:30 pm

      @Old Man Shadow:

      Yep. The country made its choice. I don’t worry about it anymore. Whatever happens, happens.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      WereBear

      June 17, 2025 at 12:32 pm

      I saw the title and said to myself, “That sounds like John Cole.”

      A case of author style. ROFL

      Reply
    6. 6.

      Professor Bigfoot

      June 17, 2025 at 12:32 pm

      @Baud: My daily mantra: “<SIGH> Oh well, it is what it is…”

      Reply
    7. 7.

      JaySinWa

      June 17, 2025 at 12:38 pm

      @Professor Bigfoot:

      Unfortunately, what it is seems to change hourly.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      NotMax

      June 17, 2025 at 12:42 pm

      @They Call Me Noni

      can tell time on a clock with actual hands. And read cursive.

      Cue Doug Henning. “It’s ma-a-agic.”
      ;)

      Reply
    9. 9.

      Quicksand

      June 17, 2025 at 12:42 pm

      I got my undergrad degree in math because physics was too much for me. Oh well.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 12:47 pm

      @Baud:

      The country made its choice. I don’t worry about it anymore. Whatever happens, happens.

      I feel that way, too. And then I think of my grandkiddos and get pissed – worrying about their futures. They already have less rights than I did.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      Honore De Ballsack

      June 17, 2025 at 12:48 pm

      Just my opinion, but: compared to the rest of college-level math, matrix algebra is pretty easy and straightforward.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Professor Bigfoot

      June 17, 2025 at 12:56 pm

      @JaySinWa: gestures generally: yeah all of it. There’s so much that it is that I can’t keep up with what it is so I just say “it is what it is.” ;)

      Reply
    13. 13.

      Eunicecycle

      June 17, 2025 at 12:58 pm

      @They Call Me Noni: I had to take 3 semesters of stats in grad school and never would have made it without my husband. He has a masters in math and is a good teacher or I probably would have flunked out.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 12:58 pm

      @Jackie:

      Yeah, I worry about the young people who didn’t have a choice last year.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      BlueGuitarist

      June 17, 2025 at 12:58 pm

      NYC comptroller and mayoral candidate Brad Lander arrested for asking to see a judicial warrant:
      https://bsky.app/profile/gwynnefitz.bsky.social/post/3lrsvgpbt3k2v

      Reply
    16. 16.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 1:04 pm

      @BlueGuitarist: GeeZUSSS!

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Andrya

      June 17, 2025 at 1:04 pm

      Hey JGC-  I’m sorry statistics wasn’t a good experience for you.  And thanks for maintaining this blog!

      I would point out there aren’t (IMHO) smart people vs. dumb people- rather there are different talents for different people.  I have an extended family member who can pick up the most difficult languages (Japanese, Turkish, Kurdish) in just  a few months, but isn’t especially good at math.  I’m a math nerd but have repeatedly failed to learn a foreign language.  Different strokes for different folks, etc.

      But since you mention statistics, I want to bring it to the community’s attention that the right is making a basic statistical error and only LGM is bringing attention to it- and they are not explaining it very clearly.  (I know a lot of jackals don’t like LGM, but I do- and anyway, I think that this is too important to miss.  Here’s the link.)

      The error is confounding “40% of fraudulent Social Security claims are made by telephone” with “40% of telephone calls to SS are fraudulent”.  (This is as ridiculous as confusing “95% of people killed in accidents have eaten wheat products recently” with “95% of those who eat wheat products will soon die in an accident”.)

      Needless to say, this is being used as a “justification” for requiring SS contacts to be made in person or online- which will have the effect of denying benefits to a lot of low-income people who don’t have computer access, especially if they have mobility issues or no car.  (Arkansas used a similar tactic to force people off of Medicaid, and unfortunately were quite successful.)

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    18. 18.

      Librettist

      June 17, 2025 at 1:04 pm

      Trump’s big news for leaving the G7 early wasn’t nuking Iran, it was…. approving the US Steel purchase by Nippon Steel.

      Always with the small ball.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 1:05 pm

      @Baud: Mine are in middle and high schools :-(

      Gotta keep fighting for their futures.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 1:07 pm

      @Jackie:

      Sure. Keep fighting. I’m just past getting emotionally caught up in things I can’t control.

      Reply
    21. 21.

      Old School

      June 17, 2025 at 1:08 pm

      Donald J. Trump

      @realDonaldTrump
      1h

      We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn’t compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured “stuff.” Nobody does it better than the good ol’ USA.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      YY_Sima Qian

      June 17, 2025 at 1:10 pm

      @Old School: Drunken uncle at the end of the bar, half remembering something he read on The WarZone last week.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      Old School

      June 17, 2025 at 1:11 pm

      @Old School:

      Adding:

      We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there – We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don’t want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

      ….

      UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!

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    24. 24.

      Tony Jay

      June 17, 2025 at 1:15 pm

      I feel ya. I’ve been on/off trying to find time to finish an extended rant about the threadbare revivalist’s tent that is modern British politics, but the shameless shitopaths just keep on cranking out more nonsense every single day.

      There’s no bottom. It’s balrogs all the way down.

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    25. 25.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 1:18 pm

      News for today:
      Trump administration did something stupid, feces-laden, cruel, and horrible, and performed it with maximum incompetence, to boot.

      Trump lickspittles used words in contrary to their definition to defend him; only girls can be press people, because Trump saw Pinocchio too many times as a child, and thinks his face looked like the painted face of Pinocchio, before turning into Elvis Presley’s, and later, Taylor Swift’s, the latter only for a few days. No one has told him that his mirror is actually a photograph, and he’s too stupid to figure it out.

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    26. 26.

      Hoodie

      June 17, 2025 at 1:19 pm

      @Old School: “We”?  I guess Israel beat out Canada for 51st state.

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    27. 27.

      They Call Me Noni

      June 17, 2025 at 1:21 pm

      @Eunicecycle: I questioned why I had to have it.  It was torture.

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    28. 28.

      They Call Me Noni

      June 17, 2025 at 1:23 pm

      @BlueGuitarist: The courts just cannot work fast enough to keep up with all this.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      JML

      June 17, 2025 at 1:25 pm

      Reminders of the good in the world: I changed jobs recently. But I’ve had new colleagues at my new position (where I’ve only been for a short time) check in on me after the horror of the weekend and old colleagues from my previous job reach out to check in on me, because they knew or thought I might have known/worked with one or more of the impacted legislators. Just wanting to make sure I was ok. It’s easy for people to not think that much about the new person or to forget about a former colleague when you don’t see them regularly any longer. So it was awfully nice to have people ask.

      Gotta keep encouraging the good people. More allies for smacking down the bad ones.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      TheOtherHank

      June 17, 2025 at 1:26 pm

      The wildest math class I took as an undergrad was basically “Why does 1+1=2?” It was about the rules underlying math. You can, if follow the rules appropriately make up a math that does almost anything you want. We like the math where 1+1 does equal 2 because it helps us describe the world around us.

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    31. 31.

      Elizabelle

      June 17, 2025 at 1:26 pm

      @Old School:  Conceived?  LOL.  And spelled right? Jesus.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      suzanne

      June 17, 2025 at 1:27 pm

      @BlueGuitarist: That picture is unbelievable.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 1:28 pm

      And this just happened:

      New York City Comptroller and mayoral candidate Brad Lander was arrested by ICE at immigration court Tuesday, Fox New York reports.

      Apparently, Lander has been accompanying immigrants exiting immigration court to help shield them from possible detention by ICE.

      A video posted on X shows Lander walking alongside a man whose immigration case had just been dismissed, attempting to escort him out of court to avoid ICE detention, according to the tweet.

      Agents still arrested the man outside.

      Another video posted to X shows immigration officials arresting Lander as he says, “I’m not obstructing.”

      Officers appear to pin him against the wall while placing him in handcuffs.

      It’s still unclear why Lander was arrested.

      Democratic front-runner Zohran Mamdani reacted to the incident, posting to X, “NYC Comptroller Brad Lander was just arrested by Trump’s ICE agents because he asked to see a judicial warrant. This is fascism and all New Yorkers must speak in one voice. Release him now.”

      Sorry all the video links are X. Maybe they’re also posted on Blue Sky?

      I feel like we’re being sucked into a vortex, spinning out of control, with all that’s going on both domestically and in the Middle East.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Elizabelle

      June 17, 2025 at 1:28 pm

      @Andrya:  Thank you for the explainer.  Well done.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 1:28 pm

      The gods are angry.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      Melancholy Jaques

      June 17, 2025 at 1:31 pm

      @Eunicecycle:

      I passed statistics – and therefore graduated – by the grace of a professor who took pity on me.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      Elizabelle

      June 17, 2025 at 1:34 pm

      @BlueGuitarist:  “Do you have a judicial warrant?  Do you have a judicial warrant?  Do you have a judicial warrant?”

      I will tell you.  ICE goons need to be picking strawberries, potatoes, spinach, what have you.  They are not a match for working in a modern democracy, with legal rules.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 1:35 pm

      @BlueGuitarist: Arrested by ICE– this is an escalation. Are they going to start summary detention and deportation of citizens now?

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Belafon

      June 17, 2025 at 1:36 pm

      @Jackie:

      It’s still unclear why Lander was arrested.

       
      He challenged ICE.

      Reply
    40. 40.

      schrodingers_cat

      June 17, 2025 at 1:37 pm

      @Quicksand: For me it was the opposite, I changed my math major to physics because math was becoming to abstract for me to understand.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 1:37 pm

      Today FFOTUS has another court date:

      A federal appeals court will hear arguments Tuesday to determine whether President Trump, against the wishes of Gov. Gavin Newsom, can keep using California’s National Guard to protect immigration enforcement agents and quell protesters in Los Angeles,” the New York Times reports.

      The hearing is being convened by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      Kelly

      June 17, 2025 at 1:37 pm

      I have a Comp Sci degree from the University of Oregon. I had a successful, lucrative IT career. I was a skilled coder, COBOL and IBM mainframe Assembler. Completing the math requirements for my CS degree almost broke me.

      Reply
    43. 43.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 1:39 pm

      @Matt McIrvin:

      Are they going to start summary detention and deportation of citizens now?

      I believe that’s already happening.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      cain

      June 17, 2025 at 1:39 pm

      @Kelly: I’ve always hated the math requirements.

      My dad is a mathematician but I got my mom’s genes when it comes to that :D

      Reply
    45. 45.

      NutmegAgain

      June 17, 2025 at 1:40 pm

      The only good thing I can say is I took multivariate analysis and matrix algebra in grad school, and have since simply forgotten all about it!  Brief suffering, now numbness.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 1:41 pm

      @They Call Me Noni: The funny thing about matrices is, they’re actually relatively easy. They’re hard to wrap your brain around, but once you do, the way they work starts to make sense.

      A matrix is a transformation space for a vector. What’s a vector? Just a list of numbers. Seriously, you can muck around a lot, but that’s what it comes down to: a list of numbers.

      Of course, it’s math, so they replace the list of numbers, with lists of variables, right? And a matrix can turn from 5×5, all numbers, to 5×5, all variables. And, you’ll find out what special things you can do in this space.

      Your two stats courses, don’t worry: you *never* know when to apply those tests from those courses. “When can you apply the tests?” is super-advanced, because these tests are really effed up pieces of math. So in the end, you really do memorize the formulas, and the types of test to which you can apply them.

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    47. 47.

      pluky

      June 17, 2025 at 1:43 pm

      @Eunicecycle:

       

      @TheOtherHank:

      1+1=0 on an additive ring of <0,1>.

      I was obviously the exception here. I found stats intuitive.
      /nerd

      Reply
    48. 48.

      lamh47

      June 17, 2025 at 1:45 pm

      Sup BJ…update on the new job front….it’s time for me to give up the excuses I’ve been making about this job and how it fits me.

      I’m pretty sure I made a mistake. I just had my first evening shift day yesterday and while the training wasn’t bad, that night time commute was NOT to my liking.

      First it was still an hour long to get home. Second, the drive was essentially pitch black majority of the way on the highway, not many cars, until I got to the SF city limits, but at least the first half of the drive was just nighttime highway…After an 8 hours shift, the ride was actually more stressful than the ride into work.

      I’m not sure that I can do it. Actually, that’s me making excuses, I KNOW I can’t do it long term.

      Also, too, add a few other things I was just ignoring honestly, and this job just isn’t for me.

      Unfortunately, I need it right now to pay bills and so far thanks to Chump the job market is more scarce than I’ve ever seen it.

      At this point, I’ve got to decide if my California dreaming is over or have to really think about leaving Oakland for other places in Cali or even back to a place I actually loved living in (DFW)…sigh.

      Called into work for today and tomorrow, cause I’m just not in the headspace for the job right now. As a new employee I don’t have time but oh well, either they accept it or nah…

      I’m kinda already dialled out.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 1:45 pm

      @Librettist: TACO! he has got no balls
      Miller, has two but they’re a doll’s
      JD… tried to steal a baby’s
      But Trumpy, has no balls, at all.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Elizabelle

      June 17, 2025 at 1:47 pm

      @JML:  I have been thinking about you.  Very sad loss of a wonderful couple (and their loyal doggo).

      I hope we do not have a long hot summer ahead of us.

      All the days and weeks are long now.

      Vote Kamala for sanity.  But.  No.

      Reply
    51. 51.

      Kelly

      June 17, 2025 at 1:48 pm

      @cain: All that work I put into calculus and I never used math more advanced than high school algebra.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      Peke Daddy

      June 17, 2025 at 1:49 pm

      @Old School: Knee deep in the big muddy.

      Reply
    53. 53.

      PsiFighter37

      June 17, 2025 at 1:50 pm

      @Matt McIrvin: Lander’s support is going to go through the roof on this. He was already my #1 choice. Hope he is released as soon as possible. Abolish ICE was too radical in 2019 but is probably necessary whenever (if?) Democrats get back in office.

      Reply
    54. 54.

      What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

      June 17, 2025 at 1:50 pm

      @Quicksand: My dad has a PhD in mathematics. His dissertation involved three-spheres, something I know nothing about despite taking matrix algebra and up through Calc 2. I have him beat in one respect though – I’ve taken several stats courses and he never took a single one.

      Reply
    55. 55.

      Dman

      June 17, 2025 at 1:50 pm

      They are arresting Democrats at court houses again.

      The darkness grows with each day.

      https://www.amny.com/news/brad-lander-arrested-ice-court-hearing-06172025/

      Reply
    56. 56.

      Steve LaBonne

      June 17, 2025 at 1:51 pm

      @PsiFighter37: Repeal the whole abomination known as the Patriot Act.

      Reply
    57. 57.

      Doug R

      June 17, 2025 at 1:51 pm

      California proposal to make it a misdemeanor for officers to cover their faces prompts federal criticism

      San Francisco
      AP
      —
      Local, state, and federal law enforcement officers who cover their faces while conducting official business could face a misdemeanor charge in California under a new proposal announced Monday.

      If approved, the bill would require all law enforcement officials to show their faces and be identifiable by their uniform, which should carry their name or other identifier. It would not apply to the National Guard or other troops and it would exempt SWAT teams and officers responding to natural disasters.

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    58. 58.

      Jeffro

      June 17, 2025 at 1:51 pm

      @Old School: no “THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!” ?

      well, it’s not official, then!

      lol

      also, fuck that guy

      Reply
    59. 59.

      Elizabelle

      June 17, 2025 at 1:52 pm

      @lamh47:  I’m sorry.  But your heart knows, and that drive in the dark — during the weeks with the longest light of the year — is instructive.  (Summer solstice comes Friday night, June 20.)

      Reply
    60. 60.

      Jeffro

      June 17, 2025 at 1:52 pm

      @They Call Me Noni: The courts just cannot work fast enough to keep up with all this.

      true, true…it’s almost like we need a better system, or something…

      Reply
    61. 61.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 1:56 pm

      @PsiFighter37: I’m glad that you think any of that might happen.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Scout211

      June 17, 2025 at 1:57 pm

      @lamh47: I’m so sorry. Please take care of yourself on your days off.  Life decisions like this are not easy but we all know you will make the best decision for yourself.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      lamh47

      June 17, 2025 at 1:59 pm

      @Elizabelle:

      I drove 280 to 101 to 80 and cross the Bay bridge. The drive from Palo Alto to at least the SFO exit is mostly dark with occasional light on the highway signs until you get to more populated areas.

      I leave Palo Alto at about 12:30am.

      But also, it’s not just the commute WW7, alot of things are not quite adding up that I’ve been ignoring, but the commute just makes it worse.

      I called into work for the next 2 days cause I’m just not in the right headspace right now…but when I return on Thursday, I will try to attempt a different route (via 880) and see if it is better.

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    64. 64.

      suzanne

      June 17, 2025 at 2:03 pm

      @Jeffro: THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER is how I passive-aggressively sign email when I really want to say MAKE A DECISION DAMNIT.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 2:05 pm

      @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: 3-spheres are topology and weird calculus. A 2-sphere is like the earth – you can walk about a two-dimensional surface, and as far as you can tell, it goes on forever. Well, imagine it this way: take a circle, okay, and this is “a circle, and the flat 2-d space within the borders.”

      Imagine the center of the globe (2-sphere) where’re going to make is the south pole.

      Take the round border, and make a bag out of it. Every single point on the outside edge of that circle because the north pole. We now have a hollow sphere, that’s 2-dimensional, except, it’s around a big hole. Also: it’s non-Euclidean, because parallel lines *could* meet, if they cross the poles.

      That is a 2-sphere. For a 3-sphere, you’d take a 3-dimensional area of space, and map all of the boundary to a single point, making a 3-dimensional space, wrapped around a hole. The actual mapping would happen in 4-d space, but it’s not *that* interesting – what’s interesting is the properties of the 3-sphere, which, please note, might give us insight into our universe, via the laws of relativity, and so forth.

      (The laws of relativity state that mass curves space, because otherwise, the equations don’t work out. So this kind of “imagine you curve space in a funny way” really does important stuff, or, at least, it could.)

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    66. 66.

      lamh47

      June 17, 2025 at 2:06 pm

      I don’t know about any one else in healthcare, but mahn job market as scarce as I’ve ever seen it and it’s all gotta be thx to the orange menace…so many companies are just scared to do any hiring…especially in healthcare where so many of the hospitals are state run or grant funded by gov’t…smh

      Reply
    67. 67.

      Omnes Omnibus

      June 17, 2025 at 2:06 pm

      @Matt McIrvin:  We can act as though we are going to have elections, etc., and take what actions we can to ensure that we do or we can decide that we aren’t going to have elections and go straight to either giving up or civil war.  I am in favor of trying to preserve the country.  We might lose, but we sure as hell will if we don’t make the effort.

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    68. 68.

      Scout211

      June 17, 2025 at 2:07 pm

      I know there are countless worse things that the Trump regime is doing but this just hit me hard.

      Days after a Minnesota state lawmaker was killed and another injured in a “politically motivated assassination,” President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that he would not call the state’s governor, eschewing a traditional presidential response to tragedies.

      “Why would I call him? I could call and say, ‘Hi, how you doing?’ The guy doesn’t have a clue,” Trump said, referring to Gov. Tim Walz, D-Minn., who was the vice presidential contender facing off against Trump’s ticket in 2024. “He’s a mess. So I could be nice and call, but why waste time?”

      Presidents have historically called state and local politicians on both sides of the aisle to lend their support in the aftermath of violent tragedies like natural disasters or high-profile shootings.
      Reached for comment on Trump’s remarks, Walz spokesperson Teddy Tschann said Walz “wishes that President Trump would be a President for all Americans, but this tragedy isn’t about Trump or Walz.”

      “It’s about the Hortman family, the Hoffman family, and the State of Minnesota, and the Governor remains focused on helping all three heal,” Tschann continued, referring to the families of the shooting victims.

      Absolutely no human decency.

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    69. 69.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 2:08 pm

      @Doug R: Misdemeanor in CA are punishable by up to one year in a county jail and/or a fine of up to $1,000.

      And will be ignored by FFOTUS’s goons.

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    70. 70.

      Elizabelle

      June 17, 2025 at 2:09 pm

      @lamh47:  Good luck to you.  And no surprise about the job market.  I am so sorry you are going through this much difficulty.

      Everything Trump Touches Dies.

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    71. 71.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 2:10 pm

      @Doug R: I’d make it an effing felony if the cop also has his (or her) badge number blocked. We, the people of the united states, have an extreme interest in being able to identify criminals with badges, and I don’t care if they might be doxxed, that’s between them, and their employer to work out. Oh, their employer won’t provide security? Tough noogies, and by noogies, I do mean “shit”.

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    72. 72.

      Scout211

      June 17, 2025 at 2:10 pm

      @lamh47: Have you checked the Sacramento area? Lots of hospitals and labs in that regional area.  The cost of living is a bit less there, too.

      ETA:  but the weather is much hotter in the summers, so maybe not.

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 2:10 pm

      @What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?: All I know about three-spheres (that’s a hypersphere with a 3D “surface”) comes from physics: it’s the same thing as SU(2), which in linear algebra terms is the space of 2×2 complex matrices that are unitary and have determinant 1.

      And *that* is the same thing as the space of rotations of a quantum particle with half-integer spin.

      Which are the same as ordinary rotations, except that turning 360 degrees doesn’t get you back to the same state where you started, you have to go around twice

      Oh, and if you’re a computer graphics person and deal with unit quaternions: it’s those too.

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    74. 74.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 2:15 pm

      @Scout211: Marcy Wheeler suggested the reporters should have asked him if the DOJ butting in and making it a federal case meant he was planning on pardoning the killer.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      suzanne

      June 17, 2025 at 2:16 pm

      Saw a devastating post this morning on FB….. Melissa Hortman’s dog Gilbert was also killed when she and her husband were murdered. Apparently she and her husband trained assistance dogs, and Gilbert washed out….. so they kept him as a pet.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      Miss Bianca

      June 17, 2025 at 2:17 pm

      @Doug R: oh, *now* these bastards are bitching because they can’t wear masks?

      Reply
    77. 77.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 2:21 pm

      @Scout211: It’s not that he is missing in decency. He’s just a chicken shit, and doesn’t have the balls to talk to someone he’s insulted so grievously.

      He knows Walz is a real man, so, he naturally feels completely ball-less in front of him. He just likes to talk tough in front of a teleprompter, for when his spoiled-yogurt brain gives up, and he can try to read his next line. In front of a real man, even on the phone, his tiny-tiny ball-substitutes would fall down his pantlegs and roll on the floor, making a sound almost like water was dripping, so you’d think he wet himself, but no, remember, Diapers Over Democrats, and he thinks his pecker is a democrat because it never rises in his presence, hence, he puts a diaper over it. He’s really not that bright.

      No, the sound you’d hear is his imitation balls rolling on the floor. Don’t stomp on them – they’re nearly as valuable as his shoe lifts!

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    78. 78.

      WereBear

      June 17, 2025 at 2:22 pm

      @lamh47: It sounds bad enough without the commute. The dark highway thing is almost as bad as a whiteout snowstorm in terms of adrenaline and then exhaustion.

      Reply
    79. 79.

      comrade scotts agenda of rage

      June 17, 2025 at 2:25 pm

      @Scout211:

      “Why would I call him? I could call and say, ‘Hi, how you doing?’ The guy doesn’t have a clue,”

      Thanks for sharing that and yeah, this one really strikes a chord.

      Presidenting, historically, well at least since after WWI, involved a lot of little things that aren’t supposed to care about party affiliation.  Like this.

      And yet, we can always count on Hair Furor to find another way to slither under a bar we keep setting lower and lower.

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    80. 80.

      Scout211

      June 17, 2025 at 2:26 pm

      Now where have I heard this  before?  Seems vaguely familiar.

      WASHINGTON — A group of lawmakers spanning a broad ideological spectrum is raising alarms about the possibility of the United States taking an active role in the conflict between Israel and Iran.

      The emerging coalition unites strange bedfellows, including some of President Donald Trump’s most fervent supporters and progressive Democrats, who have been vocal opponents of U.S. involvement in foreign entanglements in the years following the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, particularly without congressional approval. It could also represent a serious threat to the stranglehold Trump holds over the hard-right base of the Republican Party.

      Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., a libertarian who has not been afraid to buck Trump on fiscal issues, is teaming up with Rep. Ro Khanna, D-Calf., to attempt to force a vote on a war powers resolution that would require the administration to get approval from Congress before participating in the conflict in any meaningful way.

      “This is not our war,” Massie wrote on X. “But if it were, Congress must decide such matters according to our Constitution.”

      His announcement led to a flood of progressive Democrats to promise they would support the legislation, including Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, both members of the “squad.”

      “The American people aren’t falling for it again. We were lied to about ‘weapons of mass destruction’ in Iraq that killed millions + forever changed lives,” Tlaib wrote on X. “It’s [unconstitutional] for Trump to go to war without a vote in Congress.”

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    81. 81.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 2:28 pm

      @Scout211: Honestly, I don’t think Gov Walz gives AF about empty and false platitudes from Trump. It’d be a waste of the governor’s time, too.

      ps: Also Walz doesn’t have waste time waiting for “the call,” either. Win Win FFOTUS’s remarks are probably the most honest statement he’s made in years.

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    82. 82.

      Deputinize America

      June 17, 2025 at 2:30 pm

      Where is Wikileaks to give us a list of current ICE agents?

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    83. 83.

      Math Guy

      June 17, 2025 at 2:31 pm

      That I was able to make a decent living as a mathematician is a weird blessing. It’s not for everyone.

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    84. 84.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 2:32 pm

      @Deputinize America: busy giving information to ICE, probably

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    85. 85.

      MazeDancer

      June 17, 2025 at 2:35 pm

      @BlueGuitarist: So Trump trying to elect Brad mayor?

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    86. 86.

      Belafon

      June 17, 2025 at 2:37 pm

      @Jackie: One more thing, though, the US needs to know about Trump.

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    87. 87.

      Shakti

      June 17, 2025 at 2:39 pm

      I’m loving that my parents are panicking because Israel decided to go fight Iran now and they’re due to get on a plane in a week? or two — that either flies over Iran or Afghanistan or Pakistan. They are trying to change flights.  Also Trump is running his fucking mouth about taking out Iran’s leader.

      I hate saying this but: I feel no sympathy for any of the Israeli civilians because I figure they signed up for this joyfully. Israel has shown it doesn’t give a fuck about civilians (understatement).  I don’t know why it’s a bipartisan article of faith we have to let Israel do whatever the fuck it wants and give them a blank check for military spending when they’ve had their own damn nukes since the 1950s.  Bullshit. Please someone explain why getting dragged into hot World War III/multifront regional war is great for the US.

       

      I’m this close to telling my parents they shouldn’t go. My aunt canceled her trip a couple of weeks ago.  Love that planes are  (seemingly) fucked up now generally between the FAA being defunded and fucking Boeing’s problems and the Air India crash.

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    88. 88.

      Gretchen

      June 17, 2025 at 2:46 pm

      @lamh47: I’m sorry to hear that the new job isn’t working out. Do you have any other possibilities out there? At least you have something to pay the bills until something better comes up.

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    89. 89.

      Miss Bianca

      June 17, 2025 at 2:49 pm

      @Scout211: Regardless of who’s in a political bed with whom, it’s long past time that Congress started clawing back its legislative prerogatives from the Executive Branch. They have ceded far too much of their own power and responsibilities.

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    90. 90.

      Llelldorin

      June 17, 2025 at 2:50 pm

      @Math Guy: I did OK as a mathematician, but my income increased by quite a lot when I suddenly went “wait, I can also write code — will anyone pay me for that?”

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    91. 91.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 2:51 pm

      @Jackie: Plus, let’s face it: he’s probably glad that he doesn’t have to talk to the effing fat, flatulent-mouthed, foul, faffing-for-fascists, trump.

      Reply
    92. 92.

      arrieve

      June 17, 2025 at 2:51 pm

      @PsiFighter37:

      Lander’s support is going to go through the roof on this. He was already my #1 choice. Hope he is released as soon as possible. Abolish ICE was too radical in 2019 but is probably necessary whenever (if?) Democrats get back in office.

      I just voted for him yesterday!

      ICE, as it is now, has got to go. There may be a few decent people left there who can be redeployed somewhere, but every one of the goons belongs in jail.

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    93. 93.

      Geminid

      June 17, 2025 at 2:51 pm

      @Shakti: That was basically a 50-50 election in November of 2022, the one that put Netanyahu in power. The problem was that two “Left” parties missed tbe 3.25% threshold for Knesset representation, efectively strandng six percent of the vote. So half of Israelis did not sign up for this any more joyfully than you or I signed up for Trump’s leadership.

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    94. 94.

      Omnes Omnibus

      June 17, 2025 at 2:51 pm

      @Shakti: If you apply that logic to the US, no one here deserves any sympathy for any of the bad shit Trump is doing.

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    95. 95.

      Andrya

      June 17, 2025 at 2:52 pm

      @lamh47:   I hope things get better for you.

      As a fellow SF Bay Area person, I do have one suggestion- before leaving for any highway trip, look up 511.org online.  Their front page is a map which shows all the local highways’ congestion from awful (deep red) to merely annoying (yellow) to flowing freely (green).  I have found it very helpful in saving me driving time.

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    96. 96.

      comrade scotts agenda of rage

      June 17, 2025 at 2:53 pm

      @Shakti:

      I feel no sympathy for any of the Israeli civilians because I figure they signed up for this joyfully.

      Um, that’s kinda like saying should some catastrophic attack happen in the US (think 9/11), that people like us deserve no sympathy because “we signed up for this joyfully”, when, obviously nobody on this Almost Top 10000 Blog (and the 75 million people who voted for Harris) signed up for this (mal)administration, much less joyfully.

      That’s the same kinda comment we see here from people who make cracks about red states going away (or whatever), forgetting the Dems who live in those states.

      Now, framing this ire as anti-Netanyahu and the conservative parties that joined his coalition that’s helped bring about this mess, sure, I’ll join you with the pitchforks and torches.

      But making a blanket statement about Israeli civilians, many of whom protest and roughly half voted to oppose this government, no.

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    97. 97.

      lamh47

      June 17, 2025 at 2:55 pm

      @Scout211: I’m planning to expand my search at least so that I can utilize the license I paid for the next two years.

      I do know the VA hosptial is hiring in my area, but you can imagine I’m hesitant about doing fed service again, but at the very least the VA hospital staffing has not been affected like the regulation or gov’t oversight parts…

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    98. 98.

      cmorenc

      June 17, 2025 at 2:56 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      @Quicksand: For me it was the opposite, I changed my math major to physics because math was becoming to abstract for me to understand.

      HS and college-age folks learning math now have a huge advantage of us older folks, because of all the graphical learning tools and videos make what’s really going on much easier to understand.  Back in the day, if you had a math prof who really was in love with the abstraction of mathematical logic and used textbooks of the same ilk, and you were more of a visual learner, you were dead meat in that class.  I’m looking at you, Serge Lang, who wrote a couple of the most densely incomprehensible, yet relatively short, calculus textbooks ever, and the people in the math department at UNC who thought inflicting that incomprehensible mess of a textbook was any sort of way to teach freshmen calculus…

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    99. 99.

      Belafon

      June 17, 2025 at 2:56 pm

      @Shakti: Pretty easy reading that you don’t know about Israeli politics.

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    100. 100.

      lamh47

      June 17, 2025 at 2:57 pm

      @WereBear: Once I return to work Thursday, I plan to try another route that’s about the same commute time though and we’ll see if it’s a better drive so that at the very least, I can still work while looking for other options.

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    101. 101.

      lamh47

      June 17, 2025 at 2:58 pm

      @Gretchen: jobs in my field are scarce right now. Not many hospitals/healthcare companies are hiring as much right now compared to just right after the inauguration…smh

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    102. 102.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 2:59 pm

      Hey, Cole: this over at Digby’s is a soldier/Marine who suggested that the troops were either *not* troops, or the NCOs decided they’d had just enough of this crap.

      The subtitles are a great add-on to the humor value.

      https://digbysblog.net/2025/06/17/ministry-of-silly-marches

      (NB: he said “soldier, was a Marine” but I’ve known too many of Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children to leave “Marine” out.)

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    103. 103.

      lamh47

      June 17, 2025 at 2:59 pm

      @Andrya: Oh…I always have the map app up…it’s not really about the route, per se…no matter which way I go…the commute is still dead at night and at least an hour.  I thought I could do it, and I can for the short term, but I just can’t do it long term.

      Reply
    104. 104.

      lowtechcyclist

      June 17, 2025 at 2:59 pm

      @Jackie: ​
       

      Given all that’s happened since Friday morning, the National Guard question had totally dropped off my radar. Too much news indeed.

      Reply
    105. 105.

      Sure Lurkalot

      June 17, 2025 at 3:02 pm

      @lamh47: Sorry that the job isn’t a good fit. I’ve been there and it’s both disappointing and scary when the job market in your field is contracting.

      Wonder if labs aren’t hiring because our dear HHS secretary apparently believes illness is airborne or a poor lifestyle choice with the solution being to eat better.  No reason to get blood work for a diagnosis or treatment.

      Good time for jackals to check out Tom Levenson’s book So Very Small and learn about how germ theory replaced the miasma theory of illness. It’s a terrific read and illustrates clearly what a dangerous nutjob RFKJr is to embrace debunked and other conspiracy theories about health.

      Reply
    106. 106.

      lamh47

      June 17, 2025 at 3:05 pm

      @Sure Lurkalot: Right…the DHSS being run by that kook and CMS (which regulates labs) being run by Dr. fuq’n Oz…smh

      Reply
    107. 107.

      Trollhattan

      June 17, 2025 at 3:05 pm

      @Doug R:

      Nice. Shake up their safe little world.

      Reply
    108. 108.

      WaterGirl

      June 17, 2025 at 3:07 pm

      @BlueGuitarist: Holy fuck!

      Reply
    109. 109.

      comrade scotts agenda of rage

      June 17, 2025 at 3:09 pm

      @WTFGhost:

      I love how he references the SecDef:

      Trump 2.0’s Weekend SecDef Pete Hegseth

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    110. 110.

      Professor Bigfoot

      June 17, 2025 at 3:11 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: Hear hear.

      What we had before had its own shittiness before Field Marshal von Bonespurs; and there’s always the possibility that what comes after is exponentially worse.

      ”A republic, if you can keep it,” indeed.

      Reply
    111. 111.

      BlueGuitarist

      June 17, 2025 at 3:11 pm

      @Jackie: yes, also on BlueSky

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    112. 112.

      Geminid

      June 17, 2025 at 3:11 pm

      @Shakti: People are still flying in and out of Dubai. One of the pilots caught a spectacular sight on camera a couple days ago. They were looking out the window towards Iran; it was a peaceful scene not long before dawn. All of a sudden some bright lights started rising off Iran and heading off to the northwest. It was about a dozen ballistic missiles intended for Israel.

      I saw another video taken at a wedding in Lebanon. Iranian missiles and Israeli and American interceptors were staging a big lightshow in the southern sky. The wedding guests oohed and ahhed some, then carried on with the festivities

      Ed.

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    113. 113.

      frosty

      June 17, 2025 at 3:12 pm

      @Kelly: Yep. Was a math major until I never figured out Real Analysis. I ended up as an engineer and here’s the Sekrit: Differential Equations for Engineers is all about Fourier Transforms etc. that converts everything to … Algebra! Ta-Da!!!! No more calculus, just 8th grade math for my whole career.

      Reply
    114. 114.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 3:12 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: I’m actually encouraged that they bothered to charge him with a crime, instead of declaring him an “illegal” on the spot and disappearing him.

      Reply
    115. 115.

      suzanne

      June 17, 2025 at 3:14 pm

      @Shakti:

      I hate saying this but: I feel no sympathy for any of the Israeli civilians because I figure they signed up for this joyfully. 

      This is fucked up.

      Reply
    116. 116.

      JoyceH

      June 17, 2025 at 3:17 pm

      I saw an article that claimed to be insider accounts of Trump’s reaction to the parade and it claimed that he was angry at the troops demeanor – angry that they smiled and waved rather than being stern and menacing. Geez, I would hope that the military of a democracy would smile and wave to their own citizens! Or citizens of any non-enemy country for that matter. Trump doesn’t think like a citizen of a democracy.

      I saw video of him boarding AF1 leaving the G7 and man, he looked bad! He was all drooping and his face almost looked like it was melting. He’s just… done. And his expression was cranky, defeated, just finished. Tell you what, he may be making us all miserable and ruining a lot of lives, but at least he’s not enjoying it.

      Reply
    117. 117.

      TONYG

      June 17, 2025 at 3:18 pm

      Somebody with brains in Trump’s entourage (maybe Russel Vought?) has planned things this way.  A constant onslaught since January of multiple crimes and outrages happening simultaneously.  It makes it very hard for the opposition to focus.

      Reply
    118. 118.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 3:20 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage: Around the time of the Iraq invasion I saw one supporter argue that he had no sympathy for Iraqi civilians because they hadn’t overthrown their dictator. I remember thinking it was a pretty high bar. Also very similar to Osama bin Laden’s stated justification in his videos for killing American civilians.

      Reply
    119. 119.

      suzanne

      June 17, 2025 at 3:24 pm

      @Matt McIrvin: The inverse has been people who have no sympathy for Gazans because they hate Hamas. Never mind that there haven’t been elections in Gaza in almost a generation, and over half of the population has never voted at all.

      It’s all fucked up. Civilians aren’t their leaders.

      Reply
    120. 120.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 3:26 pm

      @TONYG: This is how Trump always operates– he’s got to keep people off balance with constant outrages to stay in the spotlight. But in his first term, a lot of them were just saying stupid shit. Here, though, I think he’s being yanked around by another head of government who is even better at playing the same game.

      Reply
    121. 121.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 3:27 pm

      @Shakti:

      I feel no sympathy for any of the Israeli civilians because I figure they signed up for this joyfully.

      Just as “all of us” did with Trump. You might want to rephrase that statement.

      Reply
    122. 122.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 3:27 pm

      @suzanne: Same damn thing, indeed.

      With a democracy you can at least argue that the people signed on in some abstract sense, but we all know our control over what these people do is limited.

      Reply
    123. 123.

      WaterGirl

      June 17, 2025 at 3:32 pm

      @JML: Thanks for sharing that .

      Reply
    124. 124.

      Omnes Omnibus

      June 17, 2025 at 3:32 pm

      @WTFGhost: Every soldier knows how to march in step.  They may not be good at it, in which case you see the doing a sort of skipping step to get back in sync.  What these soldiers were doing was a route step march.  They maintain formation but do not keep in step.  It is a more comfortable way to march over distance.  As an army officer, I did not march my soldiers very often – that is generally an NCOs job, but when I did I would switch to route step almost immediately.  It is easy enough to switch back.  The command Quick Time, March and someone calling cadence for about eight steps does it.  Going to and staying at route step for the whole parade was a definite choice.  And an uncommon one.

      Reply
    125. 125.

      Kirk

      June 17, 2025 at 3:33 pm

      @WTFGhost: There’s a short clip out there that shows the 75th (ranger) regiment in front of what looks like a combined unit from 1st Special Forces command. Both are terribly out of step as they’re marching past the review stand.

      40 years ago I was a Ranger (3/75). I’ve kept an eye on the organization for nostalgic reasons, and I can tell you that the Rangers have the pride and discipline for sharp formation drills – as for example see when 1/75 marched in Savannah’s St Patrick’s day parade. SF has always been just as sharp when I’ve seen  them.

      I’m leaning very heavily toward intentional but unprovable disrespect.

      Reply
    126. 126.

      lowtechcyclist

      June 17, 2025 at 3:33 pm

      @TONYG: ​
       

      Somebody with brains in Trump’s entourage (maybe Russel Vought?) has planned things this way. A constant onslaught since January of multiple crimes and outrages happening simultaneously. It makes it very hard for the opposition to focus.

      Perhaps, but I doubt it. First of all, Trump 1.0 was like that in terms of a constant onslaught of shit, just at a much lower level of atrocity overall. Second, Trump wants to be driving the news all the time, that’s just how he is. He wants everything to be about him; from his POV, if he’s President, there shouldn’t be days when he isn’t at the top of the news.

      Now the actual atrocities? Yeah, that’s where Stephen Miller, Russell Vought, and (in the early going) Elon Musk came in. And others too of course, but mostly them AFAICT.

      Reply
    127. 127.

      Kirk

      June 17, 2025 at 3:36 pm

      @Shakti:

      I hate saying this but: I feel no sympathy for any of the Israeli civilians because I figure they signed up for this joyfully.

      Speaking as a liberal Democrat stuck in Texas, would you kindly take yourself off to join other haters somewhere else? If you decide to help /fix/ the problem, then welcome back.

      Reply
    128. 128.

      WaterGirl

      June 17, 2025 at 3:36 pm

      @lamh47: That sucks.  But now you know for sure that this one isn’t for you, and there’s something to be said for that.

      (Looking for the silver lining.)

      Reply
    129. 129.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 3:37 pm

      @suzanne: …What makes it murkier is that wars in general are often very popular with the general population at first, regardless of the justification or the merits: they make their own support through appeals to emotion. It doesn’t necessarily last. But the people are always operating with limited knowledge and understanding.

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    130. 130.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 3:40 pm

      51st state?

      Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has taken action to have Greenland declared part of the “U.S. homeland” to be defended by American forces, according to a report in Military Times.

      The Pentagon announced Tuesday that it was shifting responsibility for Greenland from U.S. European Command to U.S. Northern Command, with the Department of Defense framing “the revision as part of a broader review of its Unified Command Plan, which divides the world into separate military units and outlines the roles and responsibilities of U.S. combatant commands,” Military Times reported.

      Does the U.S. European Command have any say?

      And does Denmark have any say?  Today’s only Tues. Monday was a week ago.

      Reply
    131. 131.

      WaterGirl

      June 17, 2025 at 3:40 pm

      @suzanne: I had a boss at the University who was a maddening combination of Ready-Fire-Aim on a lot of stuff where that’s a really bad idea, and taking forever to make a decision about other stuff.

      I started appending a date/time reference in the emails.  Something like, “I know how busy you are, so if I haven’t heard from you by X date, I will assume that you’re in agreement, and I will proceed with what was proposed.”

      Reply
    132. 132.

      Ironcity

      June 17, 2025 at 3:44 pm

      @cmorenc: I never did find a calculus textbook that was readable.  The way to learn how  to solve differential equations at least was to talk to the EEs.

      Reply
    133. 133.

      JWR

      June 17, 2025 at 3:46 pm

      @Jackie:

      The hearing is being convened by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.

      I’m pretty sure this is a live feed of the actual judges hearing said case:

      Live / Appeals court hears arguments on command of National Guard in Los Angeles

      Reply
    134. 134.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 3:48 pm

      @JaySinWa:

      It is what it is changes hourly.

      The disturbing part is where shitforbrains makes a short, weird sort of gurgling noise, then very slowly turns around 360 degrees, and resets that tiny, demented brain back to zero, all the while emitting a whirring noise, which is weirder than the weird gurgling one.

      Reply
    135. 135.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 3:49 pm

      PSA

      MSNBC is covering the CA hearing re presidential authority to deploy the National Guard over the governor’s objections.

      Reply
    136. 136.

      Lyrebird

      June 17, 2025 at 3:49 pm

      @cmorenc:I’m looking at you, Serge Lang, who wrote a couple of the most densely incomprehensible, yet relatively short, calculus textbooks ever, and the people in the math department at UNC who thought inflicting that incomprehensible mess of a textbook was any sort of way to teach freshmen calculus…

      WORST CLASS(es) EVER at my small college – prof actually READ TO US from those little Lang- authored volumes.  They probably still serve well as reference books, but as textbooks?  As read-aloud?  I’m about Cole’s age, so that tells you something.

      Thank heaven I took regular calc before college, and that textbook is the only one I absconded with (paid the fine after claiming it was lost) from my entire HS career

      ETA:

      @Ironcity: If I find the right box I will try to look it up, bc that book, with a good teacher, was a pleasure to use.  Wasn’t new even then, and def. big enough to take out a rodent if dropped, but a GOOD textbook.  Sorry so shouty with all caps.

      Reply
    137. 137.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 3:52 pm

      @JWR: See my #135 comment :-D

      Nebber mind. MSNBC is bouncing between that and Iran/Israel and NYC ICE goons arresting one of the Democratic candidates for mayor. Brad Lander.

      Reply
    138. 138.

      zhena gogolia

      June 17, 2025 at 3:53 pm

      @cmorenc: SERGE LANG TURNED ME OFF MATH FOREVER

      Reply
    139. 139.

      HopefullyNotcassandra

      June 17, 2025 at 3:54 pm

      @Librettist: I thought our ugly, old president left early because he looked, sounded (and probably felt) like an idiot.

      Reply
    140. 140.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 3:55 pm

      @WTFGhost:

      Trump administration did something stupid, feces-laden, cruel, and horrible, and performed it with maximum incompetence, to boot.

      So, a normal shitforbrains day.

      Reply
    141. 141.

      HopefullyNotcassandra

      June 17, 2025 at 4:02 pm

       

      @lamh47: the Goypers put you through one heckuva wringer for no fault of your own.  Jerkwads

      Reply
    142. 142.

      JWR

      June 17, 2025 at 4:03 pm

      @Jackie: Yeah, what a burn. I generally can’t follow legalese, but as a CA and L.A. County resident, I was getting into this one.

      Reply
    143. 143.

      zhena gogolia

      June 17, 2025 at 4:07 pm

      @HopefullyNotcassandra: He’s so, so, so ugly. His mouth now looks like a frog’s all the time. Someone had MSNBC on during a social event the other night, and it was the first time I’d laid eyes on him in any video since the election. It’s very striking how much he’s declined. (Not that he was ever handsome, even in his salad days.)

      Reply
    144. 144.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 4:08 pm

      @Eunicecycle:

      Stats was easy for me, possibly because I used math in my job every day. Geometry, trigonometry, and all that elementary grade stuff.

      Math is difficult for many because it actually has rather strict rules. OK most of it does. I think one of the reasons is that, at least in how I was taught is that teachers used examples, a lot of which worked OK with the basic 4, addition, subtraction, multiplication and devision but you go beyond that and the explanations often need to be as involved as the mathematical process itself, which if not done correctly, step by step makes it a lot more difficult. I mostly had good teaches that explained the processes very well and that made things a lot easier. The other side is that a lot of higher math usage is something that most people rarely, if ever see. So even if you learn it, it often becomes easy to forget the process and rules.

      Reply
    145. 145.

      1,000 flouncing lurkers (was fidelioscabinet)

      June 17, 2025 at 4:13 pm

      @Kirk: The rest of the Army got a long weekend; they had to go to DC and march in the Circus Peanut’s parade, in the heat, humidity, and rain. Their quarters & meal provision sucked, and they probably missed all of Father’s Day.
      I think we saw some world-class malicious compliance.

      Reply
    146. 146.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 4:15 pm

      @YY_Sima Qian:

      I’m not sure he even half remembers – or is it more likely he never learned/knew in the first place?

      Reply
    147. 147.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 4:18 pm

      Update on FFOTUS’s Big UGLY Bill:

      The centerpiece of President Donald Trump’s second-term legislative agenda would add $3.3 trillion to the national debt over 10 years, Congress’s nonpartisan bookkeeper reported Tuesday, when taking into account interest costs and the changes it would spell in the economy. The fate of Trump’s major budget bill is unclear after the Senate announced key changes Monday to the bill that narrowly passed the House, including on tax credits and Biden-era climate programs.

      Gift link: https://wapo.st/44iffvs

      Reply
    148. 148.

      Raven

      June 17, 2025 at 4:20 pm

      @Kirk: Route step?

       

      Route step is a marching style used in the military where soldiers maintain formation (intervals and distance) but are not required to keep in step or maintain silence. This allows for a more relaxed march, often used when covering longer distances or uneven terrain. Route step contrasts with marching at attention, where strict cadence and silence are required. 

      Purpose

      Route step is primarily used to reduce fatigue and allow for more natural movement during marches. It’s particularly useful when traversing varied terrain or covering long distances where maintaining a strict cadence would be overly taxing. 

      Reply
    149. 149.

      prostratedragon

      June 17, 2025 at 4:20 pm

      @cmorenc:  Lang!😵‍💫 I actually sat in a couple of lectures by him, in a class that, naturally, would use his textbook. I quickly retreated to the more practically oriented class, that used Hannibal and Lechter or whatever. It was basic physics that helped me understand calc better.

      Reply
    150. 150.

      JML

      June 17, 2025 at 4:20 pm

      @Jackie: Basically meaningless. It doesn’t change Greenland’s status, just which group of US Forces would immediately be tasked to respond if they were attacked by the Russians or something and we responded. More show & tell for Dear Leader.

      But no: US European Command doesn’t get to complain if their superiors task someone else with what used to be their job. They’re all still part of the same chain of command.

      Reply
    151. 151.

      HopefullyNotcassandra

      June 17, 2025 at 4:23 pm

      @Doug R: excellent!

      Reply
    152. 152.

      lowtechcyclist

      June 17, 2025 at 4:24 pm

      @Jackie: ​
       

      and NYC ICE goons arresting one of the Democratic candidates for mayor. Brad Lander.

      I dearly hope there’s some NYS criminal statute those ICE goons can be charged under (IOW, beyond the reach of Presidential pardon powers). If some of them were to find themselves facing the possibility of a criminal trial, it might the rest to stop running roughshod over the law.

      Reply
    153. 153.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 4:25 pm

      @Lyrebird: I’m not sure I saw the book you mentioned, but, I do remember Serge Lang as an author, and I can believe it would be dense. If it mentioned “Lebesgue Integration,” then I’m officially horrified. I’m not sure anyone outside of math (and maybe physics, including EE) needs to know what that is, other than “thank goodness, it proves this integral is correct.”

      Also, if you have a continuous orange, and a knife-of-choice, you could… never mind, at least one of those things doesn’t exist.

       

      @suzanne: It also ignores how Bibi is staying in power by extending the war. He was risking ouster before the attacks. *Now* he gets to explain how those attacks happened under his watch, except “oopsie,” he has to attack Iran, can’t hold an election while fighting Iran!

      The Israeli citizenry haven’t had much say in this for a while, now.

      Reply
    154. 154.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 4:28 pm

      @WTFGhost:

      As I said in the other thread, I’ll be interested in seeing if the success against Iran makes Netanyahu popular enough for him to call elections.

      Reply
    155. 155.

      WTFGhost

      June 17, 2025 at 4:29 pm

      @Ruckus: that said, your brain will remember having used arcane rules that didn’t make much sense, and how to reason, using just those rules, nothing else.

      *THAT* is the power of math for ordinary people. All math is, really, is a language extender. You can only use it properly if you use the rules, otherwise, it’s like saying “we add a fisherman, and bait, and get… a 1957 Caddy wagon with extra-burnished wood trim!” Well, you rarely want to say such nonsense – who carries fishing line that can land a Caddy *wagon*? Huh? I mean, really!

      Ahem. I always wanted to teach math, and it’s probably best that I didn’t try (though I have tutored quite well).

      Reply
    156. 156.

      Raven

      June 17, 2025 at 4:30 pm

      @WTFGhost: braid is pretty strong!

      Reply
    157. 157.

      HopefullyNotcassandra

      June 17, 2025 at 4:37 pm

      @Jackie:  Then California police can get judicial warrants and arrest their law-breaking selves.   California police can do this unmasked and even wearing name tags because they aren’t scared of the public they are serving.

      This is not only a good move.  It is a just one.

      Reply
    158. 158.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 4:37 pm

      @lamh47:

      Well shitforbrains pretty much does screw up any thing he has even the remotest contact with in his job. And that may include anyone that runs a segment of the government. I’m sort of amazed that the  time of day hasn’t been screwed up. He has that ability…..

      Reply
    159. 159.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 4:38 pm

      @WTFGhost: What I don’t think most people get about modern math is that the idea is you can just make up ANY rules (if they’re logically consistent, but that’s a very big if) and then you strictly follow those rules and explore the consequences, and what you can prove. And that may or may not turn out to be useful for something, but surprisingly often it is.

      The creative, imaginative aspect is lost because the math classes most people take aren’t really about math itself, they’re about applications of some tiny corner of math for clerks or engineers or scientists. (But when they do start to be about math, there’s also a huge leap up in difficulty!)

      Reply
    160. 160.

      HopefullyNotcassandra

      June 17, 2025 at 4:40 pm

      @Matt McIrvin: That is exactly the question to ask.  Next, what do you plan to do about all of these mass-murdering American men?  What is your plan? because targeting immigrants, while undermining basic policing just is not going to cut it.

      Reply
    161. 161.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 4:41 pm

      Federal judge finds Florida AG James Uthmeier in contempt of court. Boy wonder told cops that the court order saying he couldn’t enforce FL’s facially illegal immigration law might apply to HIM, but THEY were free to keep enforcing it.
      He was wrong.

      storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us…

      [image or embed]

      — Liz Dye (@lizdye.bsky.social) Jun 17, 2025 at 4:08 PM

      Reply
    162. 162.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 4:42 pm

      @Matt McIrvin:

      Agreed. (As a layman who enjoys math talk).

      Reply
    163. 163.

      Kirk

      June 17, 2025 at 4:43 pm

      Raven and Omni,

      re route step (and at ease march), there’s an issue.  The units execute “eyes right” and the commander saluted the reviewing stand. This can only be done when marching at attention. (Good old FM 22-5). The only marching orders that can be given in those two relaxed march commands are mode of march commands: Quick time, route step, and at ease. (Half step only comes from quick time.)

      Reply
    164. 164.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 4:43 pm

      @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

      He doesn’t slither anywhere, anyhow, any time. I mean if he did he’d be covered in his own exhaust – which wherever he is, is always a couple feet think – in the least. He’s a shit delivery service. And always seems to have a full load. Maybe he’s recycling his own…..

      Reply
    165. 165.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 4:48 pm

      Gov. Kathy Hochul says “the charges have been dropped” against Brad Lander.

      [image or embed]
      — Erik Uebelacker (@uebey.bsky.social) Jun 17, 2025 at 4:38 PM

      Reply
    166. 166.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 4:50 pm

      @lamh47:

      As a vet I use the VA and because of where it’s located I use a VA hospital. I’d say it’s a good place to work, at least from what I hear. Now of course there are always some that, how should I say this, just don’t really fit. But mostly I’m extremely happy with about 95% of the people that work there.

      Reply
    167. 167.

      Omnes Omnibus

      June 17, 2025 at 4:50 pm

      @Kirk: Correct.

      Reply
    168. 168.

      JWR

      June 17, 2025 at 4:53 pm

      Oh look! PBS has a live feed of the Newsom vs Trump hearing:

      WATCH LIVE: Federal appeals court considers Trump’s deployment of National Guard to Los Angeles

      Reply
    169. 169.

      HopefullyNotcassandra

      June 17, 2025 at 4:55 pm

       

      @JoyceH:  Do you think this president has ever enjoyed anything?

      Reply
    170. 170.

      prostratedragon

      June 17, 2025 at 4:55 pm

      Balloon Juice: where people bond over Serge Lang.

      Reply
    171. 171.

      lowtechcyclist

      June 17, 2025 at 4:55 pm

      @Baud: ​

      Good! Now, Governor, please see if you can find a New York law to charge the ICE goons with violating.

      Reply
    172. 172.

      stinger

      June 17, 2025 at 4:56 pm

      @lamh47: ​
       Ah, rats, so sorry to hear this.

      Reply
    173. 173.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 4:59 pm

      @WTFGhost:

      As someone who served, a long, long time ago, I saw exactly what you are talking about. At one point I saw a sergeant walking along smiling as he was looking at the group next to him. They knew exactly what they were doing. It wouldn’t have looked any different if they’d all had one finger raised. (Yes you know which one….)

      Reply
    174. 174.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 5:06 pm

      @JoyceH:

      shitforbrains thinks (such as it is…) that everyone OWES HIM everything for his greatness. Attention, admiration, any possible public indication of his greatness. Personally I think the entire nation ought to have a middle finger, doubles contest, where everyone flips him off with both hands whenever he’s within 1/4 mile of their presence.

      Reply
    175. 175.

      They Call Me Noni

      June 17, 2025 at 5:08 pm

      wrong thread

      Reply
    176. 176.

      Ruckus

      June 17, 2025 at 5:10 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus:

      Never heard or saw anything like that in the USN. Now it’s been a few decades ago so things may have changed. But everyone had to learn step distance and step cadence when I was in. When marching in formation it was strictly enforced.

      Reply
    177. 177.

      Jeffro

      June 17, 2025 at 5:11 pm

      @suzanne: well, at least that’s a good reason!

      trumpov just does it ’cause he thinks it makes him sound more authoritative and lawyer-ly and shit ;)

      Reply
    178. 178.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 5:21 pm

      @HopefullyNotcassandra: The other thing Wheeler is doing is fighting a hopeless battle to convince the people of Bluesky and Mastodon that some Democrats are actually doing something to oppose Trump, because the collective social-media left seem hellbent on making the story of every single Republican outrage about how, actually, it happened because Democrats suck or are secretly on his side.

      Reply
    179. 179.

      stinger

      June 17, 2025 at 5:28 pm

      @HopefullyNotcassandra: Yep. Not an immigrant. Also not a drag queen.

      Reply
    180. 180.

      Omnes Omnibus

      June 17, 2025 at 5:32 pm

      @Ruckus: Ever need to march more than a couple of blocks? The army frequently does.

      Reply
    181. 181.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 5:33 pm

      @HopefullyNotcassandra:

      Do you think this president has ever enjoyed anything?

      Physically sexually assaulting women. He admitted to such on the Hollywood video tape.

      Reply
    182. 182.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 5:33 pm

      @Matt McIrvin:

      That does sound hopeless.  I hope the frustration doesn’t get to her.

      Reply
    183. 183.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 5:34 pm

      Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem transported by ambulance to DC-area hospital, sources say: CNN

      [image or embed]
      — MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) Jun 17, 2025 at 5:33 PM

      Reply
    184. 184.

      prostratedragon

      June 17, 2025 at 5:44 pm

      @Baud:  // blank expression

      Reply
    185. 185.

      Scout211

      June 17, 2025 at 5:48 pm

      @Baud: CNN says she’s conscious and speaking with her security team.

      I hate to say it, but . . .

      I DON’T REALLY CARE, DO U?

      Reply
    186. 186.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 5:49 pm

      @Jackie: Physically should be physically sexually assaulting women. Missed the edit window.

      Reply
    187. 187.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 5:51 pm

      @Scout211:

      No, it’s just news.

      Reply
    188. 188.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 5:52 pm

      Statement from Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin: “Secretary Noem had an allergic reaction today. She was transported to the hospital out of an abundance of caution. She is alert and recovering.”
      — Phil Lewis (@phillewis.bsky.social) Jun 17, 2025 at 5:51 PM

      Reply
    189. 189.

      suzanne

      June 17, 2025 at 5:54 pm

      @Baud: I was rooting for anaphylaxis, for maybe the first time ever.

      Reply
    190. 190.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 5:55 pm

      @Scout211:

      I DON’T REALLY CARE, DO U?

      Nope. Other than I hope it hurts. Cruel of me, but she’s inflicted so much cruelty on others…

      Reply
    191. 191.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 5:57 pm

      @suzanne:

      Rooting for disease is official government policy now.

      Reply
    192. 192.

      Geminid

      June 17, 2025 at 5:58 pm

      In the silver linings department, reports are that DNI Tulsi Gabbard will step down if the U.S. enters the Israel/Iran war.

      Reply
    193. 193.

      prostratedragon

      June 17, 2025 at 5:58 pm

      Mike Lee’s great cause:

      There’s a lot of horrific news out of Washington right now—but you might have missed this: Senate Republicans just introduced a plan to sell off 120 million acres of our public lands.

      Let me break down what’s in the bill and why it’s a full-scale land grab. 🧵

      These aren’t just any lands.
      They include:

      🌱 Wilderness study areas
      🌲 Roadless national forests
      🫎 Big game migration corridors
      🥾Local recreation lands
      ❤️‍🔥 Tribal homelands and sacred sites (with NO right of first refusal).

      This would be the largest public lands sell-off in modern U.S. history and it’s happening with no hearings, no debate, and no public input.

      See what public lands would be available for sale:
      https://www.wilderness.org/articles/media-resources/120-million-acres-public-lands-eligible-sale-senr-budget-reconciliation-package.

      Yeah, that Mike Lee, in the same time frame as his cruel “joke”:

      An amendment to the budget reconciliation package written by Mike Lee (R-Utah) and Steve Daines (R-Montana) authorizes the sale of 258 million acres of BLM and National Forest land across 10 western states and Alaska. The move comes after a provision exempting land used for grazing from the sale was removed.

      “Over the weekend, the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee quietly updated its budget reconciliation language to more than double the public lands that are eligible for disposal,” explains The Wilderness Society, in an emailed statement.

      Reply
    194. 194.

      Scout211

      June 17, 2025 at 6:00 pm

      @suzanne: I was rooting for anaphylaxis, for maybe the first time ever.

      If only!

      Allergic reactions to cheek fillers, while uncommon, can manifest as redness, swelling, tenderness, and itching at the injection site. More severe reactions might include prolonged swelling, persistent redness, hives, or pain. If you suspect an allergic reaction, seek immediate medical attention, as severe reactions like anaphylactic shock require prompt treatment. 

       

      Reply
    195. 195.

      Baud

      June 17, 2025 at 6:00 pm

      @Geminid:

      That is the most pro-war argument I’ve ever heard in my whole life.

      Reply
    196. 196.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 6:01 pm

      @Geminid: Who’s the evil person FFOTUS would replace her with? I’d say Tucker, but he agrees with Tulsi’s pov.

      Reply
    197. 197.

      Miss Bianca

      June 17, 2025 at 6:02 pm

      @Scout211: I love to say it, personally. I was hoping the witch strokes out and is left paralyzed and slurring and confined to a nursing home.

      But I’m not a nice person

      Reply
    198. 198.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 6:03 pm

      @prostratedragon: Even a broken clock is wrong twice a day…

      Reply
    199. 199.

      Captain C

      June 17, 2025 at 6:05 pm

      @Jackie: I want to make it clear that I don’t think we should give all masked ICE agents who refuse to identify themselves properly the same treatment as Nicky Santoro got at the end of the movie Casino.  I want them to spend most of their pathetic, bullying lives in jail thinking about everyone else who’s free to enjoy life because they didn’t choose to be fascist thugs.

      I do think they deserve it, though.

      Reply
    200. 200.

      zhena gogolia

      June 17, 2025 at 6:05 pm

      @prostratedragon: So true.

      Reply
    201. 201.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 6:06 pm

      @Scout211:

      can manifest as redness, swelling, tenderness, and itching at the injection site. More severe reactions might include prolonged swelling, persistent redness, hives, or pain.

      If we don’t see her on the tvs for a few days… we all know Noem loves her tv time!

      Reply
    202. 202.

      Captain C

      June 17, 2025 at 6:11 pm

      @WTFGhost: In addition, I would also make it possible to plead self-defense if one ganks someone claiming to be ICE or other law-enforcement but refuses to show their face or ID.  Can’t be too careful these days.

      Reply
    203. 203.

      Jay

      June 17, 2025 at 6:13 pm

      @Baud:

      She inhaled a tiny amount of empathy and had a massive allergic reaction.

      Reply
    204. 204.

      Captain C

      June 17, 2025 at 6:25 pm

      @lowtechcyclist: Violation of Civil Rights under color of law?  Impersonating a law enforcement officer?

      Reply
    205. 205.

      Captain C

      June 17, 2025 at 6:26 pm

      @Ruckus:

      everyone OWES HIM everything for his greatness

      If everyone did this properly, the USPS would be overwhelmed by large shipments of manure.

      Reply
    206. 206.

      Randal Sexton

      June 17, 2025 at 6:28 pm

      @cmorenc: shout out to the Swokowski calculus book.   I was a pretty older math/physics/EE student and loved that book.  Now my youngest kid also loves that book and has made me swear to will it to him

      Reply
    207. 207.

      frosty

      June 17, 2025 at 6:28 pm

      @Jay: ​
       Haha! That’s on the money!

      Reply
    208. 208.

      Noskilz

      June 17, 2025 at 6:29 pm

      It is quite the churning kaleidoscope of madness.

      All one can do is the best one can under the circumstances.

      Reply
    209. 209.

      WaterGirl

      June 17, 2025 at 6:53 pm

      @Jackie: Fixed for you.

      Reply
    210. 210.

      Matt McIrvin

      June 17, 2025 at 7:15 pm

      @Jackie: John Bolton suddenly decides he loves Trump after all and jumps at the chance?

      Reply
    211. 211.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 7:31 pm

      @WaterGirl: thanks!

      Reply
    212. 212.

      Jackie

      June 17, 2025 at 7:35 pm

      @Matt McIrvin: That didn’t work out too well for Bolton last time. ‘Sides, I seem to recall that Bolton’s on FFOTUS’s Hit List of enemies.

      Reply
    213. 213.

      dnfree

      June 17, 2025 at 9:40 pm

      I was a math major and studied matrices about 60 years ago, but couldn’t explain matrix operations now.  Fortunately I never had to use them.  Surprised to see them mentioned.

      Reply
    214. 214.

      dnfree

      June 17, 2025 at 9:46 pm

      @Kelly: But you could do hexadecimal arithmetic, right?

      Reply
    215. 215.

      Gloria DryGarden

      June 17, 2025 at 11:12 pm

      @Baud: shot at a gravel quarry? Ate a poisoned apple? Some ecoli  from an under regulated restaurant that bought under regulated food? Someone returned her purse but slipped her something harmful in it?

      putting attention remainders on people I find congenial.

      Reply
    216. 216.

      Gloria DryGarden

      June 17, 2025 at 11:18 pm

      @dnfree: i stopped short of differential equations, diffi-q. All those matrices. It seemed mind boggling. I took a semester of stats, but I never understood it, it was like a foreign language. I know people get a masters in statistics. It’s too weird, but I know scientists need and use it.

      calculus, algebra, geometry, and arithmetic, all have concrete real world applications. ( how much food to cook, how many grams of protein, converting from ounces, how to build a curve in a highway to handle certain velocities, what diameter can the curve have to be safe… important stuff)

      When I was in those courses, it was a fun language to interact with. And calculus was all about shapes and movement, and was a fun dance partner for the minds eye.
      When my life changed directions, I cried, because I missed it. Still today, I think about relearning it to tutor it.

      Reply

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