Tickled? He's appalled and promising Republicans will regret passing this abomination. Your interpretation is a twisted parody reflecting your own prejudice against Schumer. Hacks gonna hack.
— R.A. Roth (Where am I?) (@fantagor.bsky.social) July 1, 2025 at 2:00 PM
A noisy member of the Horseshoe Right somersaulted in to once again Blame The Dems for the GOP’s bad faith… and got their, uh, head handed to them…
Apparently this is a person of deep faith. All bad.
— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) July 1, 2025 at 1:55 PM
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Schumer's meh I'd prefer a Murphy or Van Hollen but every D voted against this fucking thing including Fetterman all while pulling some Republicans, stripping it of some truly evil provisions like a trans health ban & solar excise tax and made Vance eat it so how do you somehow make this about them?
— Zeddy (@zeddary.bsky.social) July 1, 2025 at 1:55 PM
And…speaking of bad faith from the ‘far left’…
"Help us, Obi-Bama, you're our only hope"
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) July 1, 2025 at 12:06 AM
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The left hates him. Republicans certainly hate him
You can point to polls that say he's still popular, but inch-deep nostalgia, limited to the largely detached center, isn't the same thing as clout.
If you calculate in 'intensity' Obama is still the most hated Democrat, maybe person, out there.— Davis X. Machina (@ogdavisxmachina.bsky.social) June 30, 2025 at 6:42 PM
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Every time Barack Obama has spoken up to warn people about the dangers of Trump, white people have rushed to the polls to vote for Trump's fascism anyway. Its what they wanted.
— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) July 1, 2025 at 12:08 AM
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This 👉🏽 “people GAVE him a lifetime of being taken seriously” 🙄 is giving… “we made you…we own your success…you owe us.” Obama’s presidency exposed many white folks for who they are, and they couldn’t wait to jump onboard to support the next racist mule, who promised to undo it all, for… eggs. 🤷🏽♀️
— ✮🦋𝒞𝒶𝓁𝓁𝒾𝑒𝒮𝓅𝑒𝒶𝓀𝓏🦋✮ (@calliespeakz.bsky.social) July 1, 2025 at 5:18 AM
Taking a Break from the News
Interesting Name Goes Here
I’m really not sure I can take another 3 years plus of the Right Wing and the Far Left showing their complete, unadulterated asses. And the dirty, crusty holes.
brantl
@Interesting Name Goes Here: Jeez, bud, I don’t need that imagery.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@brantl: The subtelty tank is kind of dry today.
Doug R
This “Obama’s not doing enough” crowd…sheeesh.
He gave up 8 years of his life for these ungrateful fuckers and he’s supposed to be the Magic Negro™ to save white voters from themselves?
Over 70,000,000 voted for a RAPIST FFS.
The Thin Black Duke
White America is hardwired to expect black people to serve. Obama (and Harris) sitting back and taking a well-deserved rest is a blamphemous sin to their worldview.
Matt McIrvin
“Obama isn’t making the newspapers and the TV cover what he says, like they did when he was President!”
A thing I learned recently: Gen Z has a lot of childhood nostalgia for Obama and does not have the social-media far left’s loathing of him.
RevRick
Funny how nobody takes note of George W. Bush’s colossal silence. One would think that he might have more of an impact on Republican officials than the guy about whom they went into a frothing rage.
SpaceUnit
If anyone has earned a right to turn his back on this daily pig fuck it’s Obama.
schrodingers_cat
These people who want Obama to say something, can ask W first.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Matt McIrvin: I missed something somewhere. Do you mean the Greenwalds of this world? Who hates President Obama? I know goyper’s (truly!) who still like him. I don’t know any democrats who dislike him, much less hate him. We still have the shirts, we still have the buttons.
JWR
Well, at least there’s this from the AP:
But I’ll bet he tried. ;)
Matt McIrvin
I just read something about Obama AND GWB issuing some kind of joint lament about the death of USAID, with Bono from U2. Seems to have gotten very little attention, and that’s the problem here: you can’t in fact make people pay attention unless you’re very powerful or a terrifying murder clown or both.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@schrodingers_cat: they are both speaking today along with Bono for USAid.
https://apnews.com/article/obama-bono-bush-usaid-trump-950f7708c01502c759f1c10524752b8e
Omnes Omnibus
@HopefullyNotcassandra: The same people who called him “the best Republican President” of their lifetime. The DRONEZZZZ people. People like that.
XeckyGilchrist
I’m going to guess Hillary Clinton outdoes this by an order of magnitude.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Matt McIrvin: I just posted a link to that very thing.
JML
The same people demanding that Obama or Harris speak out louder and more publicly will be the same people who immediately turn on them for not “doing it the right way” or saying the right things (the only thing that will satisfy some of these tools is if they got to write down for them what to say and make them say exactly the way they want it, like the former President and former Vice-President are wind-up dolls).
The bill and the destruction it will wreak upon the people of this nation is on the GOP. All of them. That includes every person that voted for a GOP member of Congress or the Current Occupant.
FFS they haven’t even made it a law yet and we already have Vichy twats finding ways to blame this on the Democrats.
Ohio Mom
Sorry much victim blaming. The responsibility rests on the plurality that voted for Trump and anyone who helped put Republicans in Congress, and every Republican federal elected official. Leave Democrats out of it.
As for Schumer, if he wanted to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear, he should have said that in private. I can’t help but wonder how a big-time politician can be so not political. Those of us who are about to suffer aren’t amused or heartened by the thought that Republicans may get their due, maybe, one day. At the very least, we want our fears recognized by our Senators.
Miss Bianca
@The Thin Black Duke: God, when you put it like that…the whole white whiny dynamic just becomes so much clearer.
Blech.
Suzanne
@Matt McIrvin:
Anecdata, but that is absolutely the case for Spawn and many of his friends. It’s also true of, like, me and my friends, and we are 80s babies.
Omnes Omnibus
@XeckyGilchrist: But it is hard to take her seriously. She is a woman, you know?
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Omnes Omnibus: I guess I have not been as on-line as I thought I was. I don’t know who the dronez people are. They are aware that our current president blasts innocent civilians to bits without even a first thought? President Obama never did that.
Sounds like these dronez people might be funded by a certain Russian autocrat who tries to put crime into every single thing.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@Matt McIrvin: Or an 80-year-old Doc Brown cosplayer who relies on unachievable platitudes and populism to feed his insatiable ego.
Just sayin’.
Belafon
@JML: We’ve already had a whole lot of “Democrats didn’t do enough to stop or delay it.” I see desperation playing out, knowing that Republicans will wreck things, but hoping some magic item will stop them. The dilemma is that the only way voters are going to learn the right lesson is also going to cause a log of good people to get hurt.
Raoul Paste
@Miss Bianca: Agree
Baud
I see the Schumer stuff on Bluesky all the time. Whatever one thinks of him personally, it’s clear that Internet pile-on culture is in full swing with respect to him, which I think has the effect of weakening legitimate critiques.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Suzanne: it is also true of me and my friends and we are mostly (sadly) not anybody’s babies anymore.
This is just more blame the democrats for everything because the press is afraid of the goyper enforcers, I wager.
Baud
All the kvetching is expected. People are going to either have to learn not to take us for granted, but they really don’t want to.
Omnes Omnibus
@HopefullyNotcassandra: The DRONEZZZ Wars were fought here during Obama’s presidency. Looking back, it was an innocent time.
JML
@Ohio Mom: I don’t have a problem with Schumer’s comment. I’m not his biggest fan (I don’t think he was meant for these times, just not a war-time consigliere IMHO) but saying to the world after the GOP just screwed everyone that the GOP is going to regret taking this vote and that the Democrats are going to tell everyone who did it to them is a classical response, really. Why wouldn’t you say that in public, where maybe a few more weak-kneed House members see their jobs dangled in front of them?
(no, I don’t think it’ll work because those sad fools will either get bought off or just fall in line that the GOP always does IMHO, but it’s worth a try)
HopefullyNotcassandra
@XeckyGilchrist: the gop worked that hate project for decades. It began way back in Arkansas long before most of America had heard her name.
Omnes Omnibus
@Belafon: 53-47. Stopping it was never in the Democrat’s hands.
Baud
What is the Horseshoe Right. Aren’t they just the right?
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Belafon: I always pray more of us will become enlightened without horrible suffering, or at least the suffering will descend upon the sadists for a change.
Suzanne
@Matt McIrvin:
Also, this is a reminder that the social-media far left is, like, a fraction of a fraction of people. They are very online, and very obnoxious, which fools people into thinking that they matter and that they are numerous. But it’s an illusion. They do not matter. They are not numerous.
The far, far bigger threat is the vast expanse of people who don’t care about anything, who do not pay attention, but who sometimes vote, and when they do, it’s based on dumb shit. And when they don’t, it’s because they just are so sick of the whole thing! You know, the highly principled “When is the election?!” citizenry.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
@Suzanne:
I think there’s another, larger group of folks who get labeled as social media far left, but who are simply social media savvy contrarian. They don’t really have any principles, so they will mimic the far left but also mimic other groups as needed.
Matt McIrvin
@HopefullyNotcassandra: The prime one was Greenwald and he was really transparently bad faith about it. It was the one thing he could cherry pick where he could say Obama was worse than Bush, so it was the most important thing, until Trump was worse about it than Obama and then it was no longer useful.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Baud: where the right boomerangs into the left and they are both owned by our enemies?
Miss Bianca
@Ohio Mom: I dunno, I don’t feel like joining the Chuck Schumer pile-on when it’s the *Republican* monsters who are savaging the gates. Maybe it’s just false modesty on my part, but I don’t seem to suffer from any conviction that I would necessarily know what The Best Words For The Opposition Leader would be under these circumstances.
Splitting Image
@Omnes Omnibus:
The Democratic plan for stopping this involved having four more Senate seats after the last election than they ended up with. To say nothing of a half dozen more House seats and a different President. To be fair to the Democrats, the plan would have worked.
But as critics of the Democratic Party are happy to come here and say, Democrats aren’t interested in fighting Republicans. They are mostly interested in getting elected. Probably for their own selfish reasons.
Baud
@HopefullyNotcassandra:
I thought the point of specifying the “Horseshoe” Left was to highlight situations when the left is closer to the much larger right, rather than being aligned with us.
I don’t understand the point of distinguishing between the right and the Horseshoe Right.
bbleh
I just can’t get too worked up about the Big Bill. It was ALWAYS going to pass imo. It was THE big thing that both MAGAts and the Republican Establishment agreed upon, because it will create the most gigantic upward transfer of wealth in the nation’s history, and upward transfer of wealth is WHAT REPUBLICANS DO. [Terminator rant: IT’S ALL THEY DO.] The rest is just window-dressing for the assorted bigots and marks and honest-to-dog idiots who also vote for them, to keep them in line long enough to get into office to do things like this. It was why they were elected, and it was the hill they would die on.
Elect Republicans to a trifecta, horrible things happen. Also sun rises in east. “It is known,” said Irri, and Jhiqui agreed: “it is known.”
Baud
@bbleh:
Same here.
Suzanne
@Baud: I agree. I find left and right somewhat useful for describing politicians and policy, but much less useful for describing the electorate, which is often incoherent and driven by affinity, vibes, and personality.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Suzanne: I don’t think the non-voters are a threat unless they are effectively befuddled. Some don’t vote because voting is sullying (truly). Some don’t vote because they are a kind of hermit of their profession. Remember the AUSA who prosecuted Scooter Libby, Fitzgerald? He had not voted. He may have now, idk.
Some don’t vote because Texas has made it nearly impossible. Some don’t vote because they doubt their own ability to sift the information to make an informed choice. Some don’t vote because they are so very busy they can hardly think straight. It is a complicated problem. There are many reasons and they all suit the Goypers just fine
Captain C
@Matt McIrvin: And even then, the FTFNYT will ignore you if it doesn’t fit their narrative.
Baud
@Suzanne:
As I’ve said before, I don’t care which direction the punch is coming from, I just want our people, to to bottom, to have the courage to punch back.
dnfree
@RevRick:
@schrodingers_cat:
EXCELLENT point, both of you!
Baud
Old Man Shadow
I’m sorry, why can’t Republican governors speak out against the bill? Why can’t the last living former Republican president speak out against it? Why can’t Republican talk show hosts? Conservative media? Fox News personalities?
Why is it always Democrats and Obama (or Biden or Hillary) that need to speak out to Republicans when they’re getting ready to fuck over their Republican constituents?
Where are actual fucking conservative voices that will say “You don’t blow a 4 trillion dollar hole in the budget just to give billionaires another megayacht. That’s irresponsible!”
Captain C
@Old Man Shadow:
Murc’s Law. Only Democrats have agency.
Matt McIrvin
@HopefullyNotcassandra: the quasi-Marxist types who used to go on about “shitlibs” on pre-Musk Twitter and now do it mostly on Bluesky. Talking about how the shitlibs don’t understand that Obama was shit, actually was a major pastime.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
and
Schumer isn’t following the emasculated Jew narrative everyone set for him like Obama isn’t being the magic negro, so he is saying it wrong. That’s why.
Emily B.
@JML: You reminded me (speaking of Obama!) of that moment during the 2012 debates when Romney made an unfounded accusation and Obama simply said, “Please proceed, governor.” You could see Romney start to stammer and lose confidence, as he realized he’d walked into a trap. Classic law professor power move.
Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake. But sometimes it’s useful to point out the mistake when it’s juuuust too late to recover.
Omnes Omnibus
In my view, Schumer did as well as anyone could do in this situation because it was a legislative fight where knowing the rules and using them works. This fight was in his wheelhouse. Fiery Patrick Henry shit is not. It is, imo, unfair to expect it of him. Everyone fights in their own way. We have AOC and Crockett, among others, for fiery rhetoric.
bbleh
@Baud: great, the Newsom Solution.
On the bright side, if we give the bully our lunch money today, then he’ll never bother us again!!
Geminid
@Baud: I saw a good example of this last Wednesday. There is a former Intercept writer living in Madison, Wisconsin who wanted to make hay out of Zohran Mamdani primary win; or more particularly, the response to it from Democrats.
So “Klip” reported that while Chuck Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries and Hilary Clinton had congratulated Mamdani on his victory, Barak Obama had not! He has loyal followers so plenty of folks joined the Obama pile on
But some people pointed out the first three aere New York politicians and Obama is not. Klip did not bother responding. He’d gotten in his cheap shot and that’s what mattered.
chemiclord
@Omnes Omnibus:
I get the idea that a hefty chunk of the voters want the firebrand as their leader right now… but I’d say that’s on said firebrand to step up. Just… be loud and vocal and be the frontman (or frontwoman) and let Schumer count the votes.
So far, no one has.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: Vomit.
zhena gogolia
@Old Man Shadow: Right.
RaflW
@Matt McIrvin: I mean, the press moved on from a political assasination in about 60 hours total, with just the briefest return to mention of a funeral which (a) both Biden and Harris attended, and (b) neither Trump or Junior Varsity attended.
So yeah, the bias of the press is towards nothing mattering except fluffing Trump’s glorious strengths.
Chetan Murthy
Uh, I don’t mean to be Debbie Downer, but …. Murc’s Law wasn’t about Dana Houle’s assessment of the blame, and finding it laid with the Dems forever-and-ever-more. It was that that was the assessment of the MSM, the elites of our country. That is to say, it’ll be rebuked when somebody like FTFNYT or FTFWaPo rebukes bogus attempts to shift the blame to Dems, and does it consistently (not as just a momentary beard to don to fool
the rubesother MSM/eiltes).Omnes Omnibus
@chemiclord: We have several firebrands stepping up. One or two will emerge as the leaders. Maybe one of the women I mentioned. Maybe a governor from IL or MN. Maybe someone new. We can’t really expect the leaders to pop fully grown from Zeus’s brow like Athena.
RaflW
@Old Man Shadow: Jen Rubin does that. Bill Kristol has been spitting fire lately.
But they have much smaller followings now. Like, once Rubin left WaPo, her skeets get crap engagement. Kristol does better because his about-face is more recent and more pronounced (Jen was always to the left of BK).
Geminid
@chemiclord: I think people need to act as their own leaders more, and take more responsibility for their own morale.
Baud
Neither Schumer nor Jefferies will the running for president.
chemiclord
@Geminid: That’d be swell… too bad humanity has never been able to do that.
Jeffro
I agree…and will certainly try to encourage this…but it doesn’t strike me as terribly likely.
So let’s just get some no-nonsense, plain-speaking, ‘firebrands’ in there and get going…
…Pritzker/AOC 2028!
…but before that…eff the GOP for all this senseless hurt on their fellow Americans!!
suzanne
@HopefullyNotcassandra:
Well, yeah. But that happens a lot. Befuddlement is easy in the information environment in which we exist. I also think we just underestimate fatigue and its effect. I have no doubt that a slice of voters just…. opt out.
Bupalos
I think Obama does owe (as does Biden, Harris, Clinton, etc etc…) I’d say he pretty clearly thinks he does. I don’t think he has any real ability to pay, and I think he also knows that.
Political talent has to be matched with its time. Obama was a hopeful candidate promoting unity in a time before polarization and internet brain-rot had become so advance. That’s who he is and what his skill-set dictates.
He came pretty hard during the 2024 campaign and particularly aimed messages at black men. I thought you could hear the exasperation and desperation in his voice because he knew there was big problem. Trump ends up pulling by far the best margins the R’s have ever had among young black men. Obama just kind of sounded like a scold, which doesn’t really work for him.
scav
@Baud: University of Pennsylvania announces new meteorology degree program emphasizing the strategic deployment of sharpies. New school of Educational Dynamics demonstrates in real time how instructional reality distorts under a heavy political field.
DAMN I’m retroactively pleased I never went there.
Jeffro
Minor point 1: let’s not get too hung up on Murkowski…ALL of the MAGA GOP Senators (except 3) voted for this atrocity…keep our fire trained on the. whole. party.
Minor point 2 (somewhat related to Zeddy’s tweet): the Dems did everything they could to make this hurt, despite being out of the majority…and to me, it’s ESPECIALLY important that we hang that tie-breaking vote on JDivans. trumpov does not have too many years left in him, period, and despite JD’s natural maximum anti-charisma, we need to TELL everyone that he was all too happy to inflict this on American families.
He was also happy to lie about the basic facts behind it (the OBBB), just like he was openly happy to lie about Haitian immigrants in Ohio if it fit the narrative he wanted to push.
BOLD-FACED LIAR should accompany everything about JDivans from here forward. He doesn’t have the name recognition, charisma, decades of fame that trumpov does. It’ll help bring the whole party down, down the road.
Baud
@Geminid:
People are easily manipulated. Recognizing that is the essence of Trump’s political genius.
zhena gogolia
@chemiclord: The Ukrainians did in the revolution.
HopefullyNotcassandra
@Matt McIrvin: well, that is a sorry state of affairs for those types, then. Their powers of recall appear to be slipping bigly.
Baud
comrade scotts agenda of rage
I’m one of the few Obama critics in here but beating on him about this won’t be one of those instances.
For starters, it’s totally off brand for him. He was always the one to be floating effortlessly above all the factional disputes rather than sullying himself by getting into them. He ain’t gonna start now because…
ex-presidents simply don’t do that sort of thing. Okay, the Orange Fart Cloud did but all he’s done is break rules and not give a shit about norms. Asking Obama, who’s politics aren’t suited for that sort of thing in the first place, to break a norm like some people are asking is beyond unrealistic.
I’ll beat on him for any variety of reasons, mainly economic and education (not dronezzzz tho) and I make the same kind of dunks on him that get derided in here but we need people with the right skillset for the moment to do the heavy lifting, not a retired politician who people seem to think he should be some kind of Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus.
Lobo
This refers to Republicans:
Kai Ryssdal @kairyssdal.bsky.social
· 2m
As far as some Democrats, I don’t think they are made for these times.
frosty
I ran into one of these last fall when I was door-knocking. Befuddling. He actually said “I’m not into politics.” And thanks to Gov. Walz I answered “That’s nice, but politics is into you.”
Captain C
@Baud: CNN is ostensibly a news outlet. Why wouldn’t they tell everyone? It’s the unvarnished truth
(eta: This is what they should be told when they ask bullshit questions like that. I am fully cognizant that they are basically Fox Lite at this point.)
bbleh
@Baud: and they are legislative leaders, not executive ones. There really is a difference. They’ve done a good job keeping their caucuses solid — even Fetterman voted against the Big Bill — but the numbers are against them right now, and majority rules, especially in the House since Gingrich.
One wishes they were more robust national spokesmen. Alas, that’s not in their skillset the way it is in, eg, Obama’s or some of their colleagues’. And one wishes also that they might evolve SOME coherent party-level strategy, eg concerning unified communication (the Republicans do seem to be very good at settling on talking-points and broadcasting them uniformly). but there is the Will Rogers factor (“I belong to no organized political party”), and perhaps that’s just too tall an order.
It’s pretty clear, though, that no Party cavalry will ride to the rescue. Bottom-up organization is working very well for Dems right now (see Josh Marshall on the Democratic Party is fine, and various commenters on recent election results, including both special elections and primaries). and we just gotta keep plugging away at it. Donate, volunteer, organize, etc.
Shakti
So: Schumer held his caucus together and did his job. Good.
I just don’t feel optimism about “Dems making people remember” — iow people [who are still alive and able to vote] connecting cause and effect, thinking it’s bad, blaming Republicans, and enacting real consequences on those responsible, which should go beyond losing seats and retiring to post government sinecures and wealth. They should not be wealthier or at the same level of wealth they were prior to being in government.
CliosFanboy
Obama is hated? By repubs and the tankies, but he still seems to be pretty damn popular among most Democrats, certainly among Black Democrats. Yes, I wish he’d speak up. These are not normal times, and his voice carries more weight than most.
Lobo
And for some happy thoughts via Ms. Petri:
bbleh
@Lobo: see also Lyndon Johnson to Bill Moyers on the “poor white man” emptying his pockets. ‘Twas ever thus.
Archon
Obama isn’t hated by most voters but a huge chunk took his competence, eloquence, and magnanimity for “uppity” and basically voted for the opposite.
RSA
Maybe among extremely online people? Obama was clocking in as the most admired American man as late as 2019.
dm
I’m a little confused by the intensity of the “asking Obama to speak out just shows what a racist you are” talking point. Even weirder is “ask W first”.
What’s wrong with hoping political leaders will lead? I don’t particularly want W to try to lead anyone anywhere, but I can see value in what Obama might have to say about things.
Granted, Obama can’t run for President again, so he doesn’t have that kind of leadership potential, and perhaps he can’t command the attention of the media (which is probably a big chunk of what’s happening w.r.t. “Obama’s not doing enough” — he’s doing, but no one is there to hear the tree falling in the forest).
LAC
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: well, the praise is faint, but you still managed to get the digs in. So, your straying a little is not going to hurt your status. 🙄
Matt McIrvin
@dm: That’s my objection to the whole thing–I think Obama is speaking out as much as anyone, it’s just that the news has moved on to hanging on Trump’s brain farts and treats Obama as one has-been among many. Without actual power there’s only so much he can do.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@dm: The problem is when he did speak up the last time, the same people who are wailing and gnashing their teeth for him to DO SOMETHING NOW!!! also told him to fuck off and cede the floor to Bernie Sanders and whoever Bernie Sanders approves to stand beside him.
These people are looking for superheroes, not help. They are the fool sitting atop of their roof, ignoring and refusing the multitude of signs God has sent them because they believe that same God will magically save them from the rising floodwaters.
It’s high time you fix that shit first. You’ve proven the other methods won’t work.
Matt McIrvin
@bbleh: or ML King on feeding them the psychological bird of Jim Crow in lieu of a real one.
TurnItOffAndOnAgain
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
It’s more likely that he knew damn well how many white assholes would resent him for inserting himself into things. Remember how he pointed out a cop arresting a black man for trying to get into his own home was acting a fool and everyone lost their minds?
different-church-lady
She’s fallen a long way since Charlie’s Angels.
zhena gogolia
@different-church-lady: Wow, that’s a subtle one!
Captain C
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
“Who do you think sent you the jeep, the boat, and the helicopter?”
Darkrose
Whenever folks start in on “Why doesn’t Obama say more” I think about a co-worker in a previous job whose father was a retired army general. They were pretty well-off and very conservative and racist. After Obama was re-elected they moved to Dubai to live as expats because OMG BLACK MAN THE US IS DOOMED!
White people lost their fucking minds because we had a Black president. Y’all need to fix that shit; we can’t do it for you.
cain
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
My wife is done. Next week both my wife and I are going to get laid off at the same time. My wife sustained a brain injury during work and the school district has decided to cancel her because she can’t do the work. She’s going to retire from education and is working on getting long term disability, govt pension, and social security disability. We don’t know if she will ever recover fully but even 4% she’s better than 85% of the people out there.
But we’ve decided that if they want to us gone, we’re gone. So, we’re going to be looking for places to live in, in Europe. With healthcare going down the shitter, them going after citizens to deport/exile. It’s not worth it.
Sure, I took an oath but if my own country is saying “fuck your oath, we’re going to boot you out ” then fuck you – I’m out.
Timill
@cain: Sorry to hear that about your wife. We may take a similar path; in our case, back to the UK and then consider another relocation, maybe to Italy or the Netherlands.
How are your thoughts going at the moment?
AxelFoley
@Bupalos:
None of them owe JACK SHIT.
Obama has been warning this country about Trump for TEN FUCKING YEARS. That, after saving this country from the disastrous Bush years.
Clinton warned the country about how terrible Trump would be for the nation.
How did it repay them? By putting that scumbag in office.
Biden and Harris then saved this ungrateful nation from Trump, and how did it repay them?
By forcing Biden out of the race and putting the aforementioned scumbag BACK in office.
Naw, none of them owe anyone. They served this country with distinction and sounded the alarm about Trump’s and the GOP’s plans to undo all the socio-economic , civil rights, and human rights gains made over the decades.
AxelFoley
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
And you’re the type of Obama “critic” we dunk on.
AxelFoley
@dm:
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
THANK YOU.
RevRick
@dm: Asking former President Obama to try to influence Republicans is ridiculous. In fact, whatever he might have to say to them would only inspire oppositional defiance in them. And he’s smart enough to know that if he said anything, they would go out of their way not to do it.
He is also acutely aware of the angry black man trope that limits not only what he says, but how he says it.
If we are looking for him to rally the Democratic troops, I suppose he could give us a lofty speech. But my hunch is that we’re looking for a fire breathing dragon. And my sense of him as a human being is that goes against all his instincts.
And really, do we need him to prepare us to do battle with the
GOPGod-damned fascists?AnotherKevin
@Baud: Who is “People/they”; who is “us”; and WTF are you demanding “they” do further that would actually have a real world effect?
AnotherKevin
@AnotherKevin: And what are you doing, that has a real world effect on stopping the rising fascism (other than blog posting, which I admit is NOT nothing).