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Saturday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  October 11, 20253:23 am| 227 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Trump Crime Cartel, Your Place Is In The Resistance

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No Kings 2 is Saturday, Oct. 18.
Nobody is getting paid to be there. But you can demonstrate to the world that you oppose the rise of fascism in the U.S.
Find your local protest here: www.nokings.org#map

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— Matt Novak (@paleofuture.bsky.social) October 10, 2025 at 10:57 AM

Making sure all my enemies know that there's a big rally about how much I suck coming up, & also that it really bothers me

— Hemry, Local Bartender (@bartenderhemry.bsky.social) October 10, 2025 at 12:30 PM

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This is an odd assessment, imho, because the WH actually doesn't really care about congressional priorities and the first real time it encountered them, the entire thing fell apart and the government shut down.
Most of the WH is about pulling levers where congress has given it power.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 10, 2025 at 10:16 PM


They care relatively little about passing any bills, because most of what they want to do is in the grey areas of executive power.
So yeah, this strikes me as dumb. Especially when congress is literally about to revolt on the Epstein files as soon as Grivalja gets sworn in.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 10, 2025 at 10:16 PM

There is a misjudgment of "this congress is heinously dysfunctional and can't pass bills" as "we are owning congress like little babies."
They actually are relatively inept when it comes to managing congress, as they can't get anything through a friendly one.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 10, 2025 at 10:17 PM

From the replies:

yeah honestly what Johnson and Trump are doing rn is akin to a prime minister abruptly proroguing parliament. it’s a last resort, something you do to buy time when you’re afraid you’re going to be embarrassed or challenged on the floor

what we have here is a “strongman” terrified of the House coming back into session

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This is what it looks like when one side is about to cave on a shutdown. How do I know? I had a front-row seat as as an aide to the House GOP leadership during the very first shutdown, in the 1995 battle with Clinton. When they get nervous and defensive like this, they're looking for a way out.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) October 9, 2025 at 11:17 AM

I'm not talking about the merits of the arguments here. I'm talking about what kind of arguments you start to make when you know you're losing in public opinion and it's only going to get worse.

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) October 9, 2025 at 11:18 AM

The only real obstacle is that if they reconvene and pass a CR, they're going to have to deal with the Epstein discharge petition. And Speaker Johnson seems like he REALLY doesn't want to do that, with an intensity I can't fully explain.

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) October 9, 2025 at 11:22 AM

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227Comments

  1. 1.

    Gloria DryGarden

    October 11, 2025 at 3:35 am

    You’d almost think Mike Johnson was in those Epstein files himself…

  2. 2.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    October 11, 2025 at 3:39 am

    @Gloria DryGarden: I does seem that way.

  3. 3.

    Gretchen

    October 11, 2025 at 4:08 am

    Marshall is my idiot Senator. I called 3 of his offices after I saw this clip and was sent to voicemail for all three. He also said this week that he can’t have a town hall because there’s too much risk of violence.

    In better news, I was concerned that the Kansas City Marathon is being held on the same day in the same area as the No Kings rally. I just found out that the marathon starts at 7am and the rally is 2-4 pm, so the marathon should be over before the rally starts.

  4. 4.

    eclare

    October 11, 2025 at 4:20 am

    Damn it.  As always the rally here in Memphis is on a very crowded street corner in front of a strip mall where cars go by at 40-50 mph.  I just don’t feel safe going.  There is a very nice park about two miles away from that location, I wish it were there.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 4:31 am

    @Gloria DryGarden:

    I’m sure he’s there in spirit.

  6. 6.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 5:12 am

    Weird? Or Wired?

    From Israeli N12News:

    Bloomberg report: Norwegian authorities have launched an investigation into whether Machado’s Nobel Peace Prize was leaked unusually last night– following a surge of dozens of percent in her chances of winning on the Polymarket betting site.

    A Polymarket chart shows Ms. Machado’s chances were in the single digits throughout September and the first nine days of October. Then they surged to 67% Thursday night.

  7. 7.

    p.a.

    October 11, 2025 at 5:35 am

    @Geminid: When the whole planet is FanDuel…🤢

  8. 8.

    David_C

    October 11, 2025 at 5:59 am

    The CDC is being destroyed.

    reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/trump-administration-lays-off-dozens-cdc-officials-n…

    Among offices affected are the Washington office and MMWR, and many, many more. Apparently, public health is a “Democrat” priority.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 6:05 am

    An Oklahoma girls basketball team returned its championship after discovering it actually lost the title game

  10. 10.

    Princess

    October 11, 2025 at 6:10 am

    @Gloria DryGarden: Johnson probably isn’t in them but I bet some big Republican (and tbh Democratic) donors are in them.

  11. 11.

    Jeffro

    October 11, 2025 at 6:14 am

    @Gloria DryGarden:

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    they know that whatever’s in there is really, really bad for trump, and they don’t want to deal with what happens next…

    …but there’s no way to have a Congress without releasing the Epstein files, so they’re really at a bigger decision point than they ever imagined.

    As always, the choice is the same: the Constitution (in this case, Constitutional government, ie, a functioning Congress) or trump

  12. 12.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 6:15 am

    Janet Mills decided to run for Senate in Maine.

  13. 13.

    sab

    October 11, 2025 at 6:15 am

    @Gretchen: They are destroying CDC and your idiot senator Roger Marshall MD doesn’t care. He was an ob/gyn.

  14. 14.

    p.a

    October 11, 2025 at 6:20 am

     

    @Princess: Donors and pols, or ex-pols.  And thankfully the Dem Party stance (publicly at least) is: let the chips fall where they may.

    I wonder about the MAGAts big on release; if when their team members’ names appear, I can see a shift to the “fake news” argument.  It would be in line with authoritarian psychology, wouldn’t it?

  15. 15.

    Gretchen

    October 11, 2025 at 6:23 am

    @sab: Yes. He’s an idiot who knows better and still parrots RFK.  Stupid, evil or both?

  16. 16.

    prostratedragon

    October 11, 2025 at 6:36 am

    @David_C:

    Inside Medicine has some details and a tentative list of staff and agencies affected.

    Ann Telnaes

  17. 17.

    hobbitdreams

    October 11, 2025 at 6:41 am

    We will be joining a “No Dictators” rally since we’re in a constitutional monarchy and participants have been respectfully requested not to bring signs saying bad things about kings.

    ETA: OTOH, saying bad things about the Felon is allowed.

  18. 18.

    hobbitdreams

    October 11, 2025 at 6:49 am

    @eclare: Perhaps they choose that location for the higher visibility? Is there a section on that corner that is more shielded from traffic? It’s reasonable to be concerned about safety, especially in these parlous times.

  19. 19.

    JPL

    October 11, 2025 at 6:50 am

    @eclare: I can’t locate one near me and I’m not going into Atlanta.

    You have to Guard to think about also.

  20. 20.

    hobbitdreams

    October 11, 2025 at 7:03 am

    I think someone (Baud? Another Scott?) may have posted a link earlier, but Judge Perry’s TRO regarding the National Guard in Chicago is worth reading. Among other things, the judiciary seems increasingly loathe to buy what this mendacious Administration is selling.

    ETA: Never mind. The link was just to the two-page TRO. Maybe someone with better google-fu can find the full document? It’s well worth the effort.

  21. 21.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    October 11, 2025 at 7:03 am

    I went with neighbors to the last No Kings rally and have lined up drivers etc to go to this one too. We’re postcarding on Wednesday. I’ll be interested to see if people are still game. We’re in Chicagoland, so things are in turmoil, though we’re out in the suburbs, which is where our rally would be too.

  22. 22.

    Betty Cracker

    October 11, 2025 at 7:07 am

    Johnson from clip above:

    “The healthcare issues were always gonna be something discussed, deliberated, contemplated, and debated in October and November.”

    Wow, that degenerate weasel sure sounds desperate! Good!

    Re: the Epstein files, the proper framing is that Trump and Johnson are protecting rich pedophiles, imo. I doubt Trump is directly implicated in any crimes in the files; he had his own human trafficking racket in the form of affiliations with so-called “modeling” agencies.

    But lots of wealthy Palm Beach and NYC creepers will be exposed if the files are released. I bet many of them are Maralago members. That’s why they’re desperate to keep the files away from public scrutiny.

  23. 23.

    frosty

    October 11, 2025 at 7:08 am

    @hobbitdreams: I’ve seen the same thing. Seville, Spain is calling their rally “No Tiranos” instead of “No Reyes”.

  24. 24.

    WTFGhost

    October 11, 2025 at 7:10 am

    @Princess: Democratic donors – not just “donates to everyone” donors – aren’t likely to want to be involved with someone who diddles young women. They’re more likely to be donors to causes to stop sex trafficking. Are there Dem donors who are horndogs? Sure, but why wouldn’t they hire their own sex workers from a legitimate escort service? Why trust someone like Epstein? Regardless, anyone who is actually dirtied by the Epstein file, e.g., anyone who had sex with REDACTED_1, REDACTED_2, etc. isn’t someone we want supporting us.

    Republican donors – again, not just “both parties” donors – are the kinds of people who think it’s great if poor people suffer and die, because it’s cheaper that they die, rather than making businesses change how they do things, or forcing rich people to pay taxes;  their figuring is, if the poor hadn’t been so stupid and useless, that they were poor, they wouldn’t deserve it so much. Those are the kinds of people who get excited by illicit sex.

  25. 25.

    Scout211

    October 11, 2025 at 7:14 am

    Shades of the Elon Musk email in the first stages of DOGE? CBS News staffers are being scrutinized by the big boss already.

    The Writers Guild of America told union employees it represents at CBS News to not respond to an email requesting information sent to staff by Bari Weiss — The Free Press founder who this week was appointed CBS News’ editor in chief — until CBS provides more details on what the purpose of her missive is, including whether their replies could serve as “a basis for discipline, discharge, or layoff.”

    . . .

    Weiss told CBS News staffers in a memo Friday morning that she was eager “to understand how you spend your working hours — and ideally, what you’ve made (or are making) that you are most proud of.” She asked every employee at the news division to send her a memo providing those details by Tuesday, Oct. 14, as well as “your views on what’s working; what’s broken or substandard; and how we can be better.” Weiss said all responses “will be held in the strictest of confidence.”

    So who is really in control?

    According to a memo from Paramount Skydance CEO David Ellison sent Monday (Oct. 6), Weiss will “help ensure that our reporting remains relevant, accessible, and — most importantly — trusted in this new era for American media.”

    Bye bye, CBS News. We used to love ya.  Walter Cronkite is turning over in the grave.

  26. 26.

    Jeffro

    October 11, 2025 at 7:14 am

    @Betty Cracker: true, but don’t forget…trump and Epstein had their little “secret”, whatever that is

    (And I’m 100% positive it’s not just trump getting it on with models…)

  27. 27.

    rikyrah

    October 11, 2025 at 7:15 am

    Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

  28. 28.

    hobbitdreams

    October 11, 2025 at 7:15 am

    Derek Guy, the fashion critic on BlueSky:

    in 2011, the president of antifa hired me to give fashion consultancy to the organization. i recommended everyone wear navy suits with tan shoes, dress sneakers, and golf polos with slim chinos. if you arrested everyone today wearing these things, you’d destroy antifa

  29. 29.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 7:19 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  30. 30.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 11, 2025 at 7:21 am

    @WTFGhost:

    Republican donors – again, not just “both parties” donors – are the kinds of people who think it’s great if poor people suffer and die, because it’s cheaper that they die, rather than making businesses change how they do things, or forcing rich people to pay taxes; their figuring is, if the poor hadn’t been so stupid and useless, that they were poor, they wouldn’t deserve it so much. Those are the kinds of people who get excited by illicit sex.

    I think it’s simpler than that. To use Terry Pratchett’s words, they’re the sort who see other people as things, and things are there to be used.  If their tastes run towards underaged girls, and this guy is giving them a chance to use some of them as sex toys, well why not is their reasoning if one can call it that.

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 7:26 am

    Weekend watch. The more you know…

    What Happens When You Die On A Cruise Ship?

  32. 32.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 11, 2025 at 7:28 am

    There will be No Kings protests in the morning at a few locations in Calvert County; I’ll probably be at Dunkirk District Park, then head in to DC for the big rally there.

  33. 33.

    David_C

    October 11, 2025 at 7:31 am

    @prostratedragon: Thanks. I’d seen the text in a chat but didn’t know the source. Today I plan to make my way to Bethesda for the weekly NIH vigil. We have a local No Kings protest next week and I thought of two protests in one day, but old age prevents me.

  34. 34.

    hobbitdreams

    October 11, 2025 at 7:34 am

    @NotMax: Fun watch, after a fashion. ;-) Those floating petri dishes have never appealed to me anyway. The video didn’t change my mind.

  35. 35.

    piratedan

    October 11, 2025 at 7:35 am

    @lowtechcyclist: yeah, your fellow citizens as NPC’s to follow the gamergate parlance.  While we’re all rooting for the main character to plow thru each minor annoyance on this ongoing mini-series about how awesome each of them are.

    I do wonder how we turned out so many sociopaths in our society.

  36. 36.

    David_C

    October 11, 2025 at 7:35 am

    BTW, speaking of public health, I’m reading Tom Levenson’s book, So Very Small. So very enjoyable. So very relevant.

  37. 37.

    AM in NC

    October 11, 2025 at 7:48 am

    @JPL:   I’ll be in Grayson, GA helping my dad after a surgical procedure. My plan is to go outside of his little gated community and stand by myself at the intersection there with the sign I would have had at my hometown rally in NC.  I’m just hoping nobody runs me over. Which I am actually worried about because, Grayson, GA.

    I’m hoping the fact that I am a woman in my 50s with gray hair will deter at least some MAGA motorists from mowing me down.

  38. 38.

    p.a.

    October 11, 2025 at 7:50 am

    Would that be a “fun” 1 day exercise here: post what we’ve accomplished today and account for our time use before comments allowed?

  39. 39.

    WTFGhost

    October 11, 2025 at 7:50 am

    @Betty Cracker: Yeah, and I bet you noted that honest brokers wouldn’t need to insist they were going to do four separate things, none of which included “…and some fix voted upon.”

    The more Trump covers, the more I think he’s dirty. But even if he didn’t diddle any underage girls, and instead, just allowed Epstein to do it, he’s a hideous human being, and everyone with any decency has to clench their jaw to keep from puking on his shoes to think about what kind of man would do that. This isn’t like, covering for a friend, who swears he killed a man in Vegas, in self defense (when, in fact, he killed a man, just to watch him die). This is like covering up the rape of a child. Oh, right, that’s because it’s precisely that.

    There are times when a prosecutor can be overzealous in charging “obstruction,” and “accessory after the fact,” and, if there is any Epstein associate with an effing medical license, “failure to report,” and whatever crime that means “you knew, and didn’t try to protect another human being, in a situation in which you would have cried out for society’s protection.” This is not one of those times.

    So Trump’s dirty as hell. Worse, if legend is correct, he’s a rat. So, he can’t hold up his head in non-criminal society, because he really is a dirty, filthy, despicable human being who let girls get diddled, until Epstein threatened to rat him out for money laundering. He can’t hold up his head in criminal society, because he’s a rat.

    He may also be protecting his friends, but let me tell you an alternate theory.
    The FBI files for Epstein found that, if Biden had been willing to dig through them, he could have had the DOJ destroy Trump, or, if the Statute of Limitations was out, simply leak the information and torpedo him.

    Bondi and Patel told Trump that; Dan BoingyBoingy was too grossed out by how dirty Trump is to play along. Trump can’t let those files be released, because not even the SCOTUS-6 would be able to justify keeping him out of jail if the files were released, and, regardless, the civil suits would destroy him utterly.

    That fits all the facts. And, friend, it eliminates what seems to me to be a ridiculous supposition, that he isn’t dirty as hell, and guilty of raping the underaged, sure that he’d get away with it. Trump is totally the kind of guy who’d do that; “run right up and grab them by the pussy; and when you’re (an Epstein guest), you get away with it.”

  40. 40.

    rockclimber

    October 11, 2025 at 7:53 am

    Longtime lurker here. I am getting pumped up for the protests next week!

  41. 41.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 7:55 am

    Make them pay

    Wyoming library director fired amid uproar over books with LGBTQ+ themes wins $700,000 settlement

  42. 42.

    JPL

    October 11, 2025 at 8:01 am

    @AM in NC: I think smaller rallies will pop up.   Good luck

  43. 43.

    Scout211

    October 11, 2025 at 8:07 am

    The Trump administrationhas made haphazard and, so far, ineffectual attempts to find a country willing to accept Kilmar Abrego Garcia if he’s deported again from the U.S., according to testimony and evidence presented in federal court here Friday.

    A senior Immigration and Customs Enforcement official testified that efforts to get the African countries of Uganda and Eswatini to accept the high-profile deportee have foundered in recent days.

    Another potential destination, Ghana, also seemed to fizzle Friday as that country’s foreign minister said unequivocally on X that Ghana would not agree to receive Abrego.

    . . .

    Abrego told the administration in August that he would accept deportation to Costa Rica. One of his lawyers, Andrew Rossman, said Friday that the administration’s scattershot attempts to identify African countries instead show that the administration is intent on refusing the Costa Rica offer.

    . . .

    Schultz also appeared to confirm the White House’s involvement in selecting countries Abrego might be sent to. He said an official at the Homeland Security Council, Matt Ochoa, told him that Uganda was a place the administration wanted to send Abrego to, but that eventually fell through. Justice Department attorneys cut short that questioning with an executive privilege claim.

    . . .

    During a separate court session Friday in Nashville, the judge presiding over Abrego’s criminal case set a hearing for Nov. 3 to take evidence and possibly testimony about whether the charges should be dismissed on the grounds that the Trump administration instituted them to lash back at Abrego for defeating the government in court over his illegal deportation.

  44. 44.

    WTFGhost

    October 11, 2025 at 8:11 am

    @Jeffro: One person pointed out that “enigmas” – the word in Trump’s mash note to Epstein – is an anagram for “gamines,” a stereotypical young woman type. “Gamines never age” is a heck of a lot more confessional than “enigmas never age.”

  45. 45.

    eclare

    October 11, 2025 at 8:14 am

    @hobbitdreams:

    I’m sure it’s for the visibility, the street has six lanes for traffic and a turn lane.  There is really no way that I can think of to be better protected because it’s in front of a strip mall that has parking in front of the stores.  If someone wants to drive onto the sidewalk there is nothing stopping them and then they are in the parking lot.

  46. 46.

    eclare

    October 11, 2025 at 8:16 am

    @Scout211:

    This just infuriates me.  That poor man and his family.

  47. 47.

    Scout211

    October 11, 2025 at 8:17 am

    Portland’s “Operation Inflation” makes national and international news

    A small group of federal agents in camouflageand face masks watched from atop the immigration processing center Thursday night as a unicorn, peacock, dinosaur and raccoon danced to Cher’s “If I Could Turn Back Time.”

    Across the street, the self-proclaimed frog brigade — three adults in inflatable amphibian costumes — posed for photos and bounced around in unison. A small group of counterprotesters nearby shouted, “We love you, ICE!”

    Similar scenes outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement building south of downtown Portland have been playing out for weeks as people protest President Donald Trump’s mass deportation efforts and the deployment of more than 200 National Guard troops to Oregon’s largest city to protect federal property.

    The absurdity of adults dancing in inflatable costumes during anti-ICE demonstrations is meant to display community joy, protesters say, and helps to dispel the Trump administration’s narrative that Portland is a crime-ridden “war zone,” a characterization local and state leaders say is false.

    Plus, the costumes provide protection from gas and other toxins deployed by federal agents, protesters say.

    “If you’re going to make it silly and say that we’re evil, we’re going to make it silly by showing how evil you are,” said Brooks Brown, of Vancouver, Washington, who passed out 30 inflatable costumes Thursday night to anyone who wanted to get it on “Operation Inflation.”

    . . .

    This is an unacceptable betrayal of the American democracy,” Dickinson said, referring to federalized forces deployed in Democratic-led cities like Chicago and Los Angeles. “ICE is kind of the perfect example of the cruelty with which they are implementing their agenda, and it’s just not something we can sit by and let happen.”

    The costume strategy appears to be working. Demonstrators have attracted attention from international media outlets in France, Australia and England.

    . . .

    Despite the costumed antics, the Trump administration stuck to its depiction of the protesters on Thursday during a federal appeals court hearing challenging a judge’s order barring the Guard from being sent to Portland. The panel has not made a decision yet.

    . . .

    Speaking before a panel of federal judges Thursday, Senior Assistant Oregon Attorney General Stacy Chaffin said the administration’s portrayal of Portland was “untethered from reality.”

  48. 48.

    eclare

    October 11, 2025 at 8:19 am

    @Scout211:

    Great protest name!

  49. 49.

    Ken B

    October 11, 2025 at 8:20 am

    @frosty: Are the Seville rallies why Trump wants Spain thrown out of NATO?

    I saw a headline on some article last night before I went to bed, but it looked click-baitey and I went to bed instead of reading it.

  50. 50.

    Kosh III

    October 11, 2025 at 8:21 am

    @Scout211: Any legal beagles that want to comment on this?
    Sending Abrego Garcia to Eswatini would be cruel and unusual punishment.  He isn’t from there, he doesn’t speak the language(s) there and has no cultural or family connection.

  51. 51.

    Ken B

    October 11, 2025 at 8:25 am

    @Princess: If there were big name Democratic donors in the files, the GOP would have leaked them already.

  52. 52.

    Anonymous Expat

    October 11, 2025 at 8:28 am

    @Princess: I always got the feeling that there was always less than meets the eye to the Epstein story; “nobody knows” how he made his money, except that he managed to talk his way into Bear Sterns and thus Wall Street by befriending an executive there after talking his way into a job at a private school in the 70s; he narrowly avoided getting pinched for financial crimes for which his partner got put away in the 90s; he talked his way into having power of attorney over the billionaire owner of Victoria’s Secret for a decade. Given all that, it would be remarkable if he *didn’t* end up fantastically wealthy.

     

    As to being connected to rich and powerful people, a lot of folks would like to bask in reflected glory by associating with the rich and powerful without necessarily blackmailing them. Clearly there was a network of enablers who made what Epstein did possible (and I wonder how unique his crimes are, given that it was all through the professional modeling pipeline), and I’m sure a number of people in his social circle are also implicated in his crimes; the impression I come away with is a narcissistic conman who embedded himself into a world where money flows freely among acquaintances (nepotism hires for no-work/no-show jobs, for instance) and an existing mechanism of exploitation helped steer victims towards him.

     

    I could be wrong, of course, but I’d put money on the unreleased tapes being ones Epstein made of himself, and the as-yet-unreleased files being underwhelming in terms of implicating others.

  53. 53.

    New Deal democrat

    October 11, 2025 at 8:29 am

    FWIW, Is the stock market in an AI bubble? If so, how quickly will it pop?:

    “I saw the dot coms crash from a front row seat. AI is running out of money way faster.”
    bsky.app/profile/hannibaltabu.bsky.social/post/3m2vlmfzvvs2r

    “ In August, the founder of hedge fund Praetorian Capital Harris “Kuppy” Kupperman penned an essay on the absurd finances behind AI data centers.… Kupperman’s napkin math found that AI data centers have an impossibly short runway to achieve profitability… because data center components age rapidly, either made obsolete through rapid advances in technology, or broken down over years of constant, high-powered usage.

    “Kupperman’s original skepticism was built on a guess that the components in an average AI data center would take ten years to depreciate, requiring costly replacements. That was bad enough: ‘I don’t see how there can ever be any return on investment given the current math,’ he wrote at the time.
    “But …  ‘Based on my conversations over the past month, the physical data centers last for three to ten years, at most.’
    “… ‘the industry probably needs a revenue range that is closer to the $320 billion to $480 billion range, just to break even on the capex to be spent this year,’ Kupperman posited in his updated essay.
    “[But] the industry’s actual AI revenue is closer to $20 billion annually.”

    futurism.com/future-society/ai-data-centers-finances

    The dotcom bubble of 1999 burst after a Barron’s article showed that the “burn rate” (how quickly companies would run out of cash) for some of the companies was as little as 7 weeks. I’ve already said that this “smells” like a bubble to me, but it’s impossible to know in the moment.  Guess we’ll find out soon enough.

  54. 54.

    H.E.Wolf

    October 11, 2025 at 8:34 am

    @Kosh III: “Sending Abrego Garcia to Eswatini would be cruel and unusual punishment. He isn’t from there, he doesn’t speak the language(s) there and has no cultural or family connection.”

    Not coincidentally, Eswatini (formerly known as Swaziland) is ruled by a rich, corrupt, authoritarian monarch: Mswati III.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mswati_III​

  55. 55.

    H.E.Wolf

    October 11, 2025 at 8:36 am

    @New Deal democrat: ​FWIW, Is the stock market in an AI bubble? If so, how quickly will it pop?:

     

    1. Yes.
    2. Gradually, then suddenly.

  56. 56.

    hobbitdreams

    October 11, 2025 at 8:41 am

    @Scout211: Wearing those silly inflatable costumes is brilliant. Makes a mockery of ICE’s over-amped military posturing, plus great photos. Should be done everywhere silly costumes are sold.

  57. 57.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    October 11, 2025 at 8:42 am

    @David_C: I wish the Democrats would threaten to hold those responsible for these illegal firings for every dime the federal government has to spend when they’re found to be illegal and the employees are reinstated – all the back pay, legal fees, other compensatory and maybe punitive damages. Tell Russ Vogt you’re keeping receipts and he won’t have two pennies to rub together for the rest of his miserable life.

    Also blue  state governors should be charging Russ Vogt interest on the funds he’s withholding- OMB guidance says 7%. For NY it’s $18 billion in transit funding which comes to about $1.2 billion per year, $100 million per month, $25 million per week.

  58. 58.

    Spanky

    October 11, 2025 at 8:46 am

    Google AI:

    Many online marketplaces and wholesale suppliers feature inflatable costumes manufactured in China, including regions like Guangdong and Zhejiang. While some products may be of lower quality, many high-quality items are also made there with proper quality control.

    I’m surprised that Trump hasn’t already levied a bazillion percent tariff on inflatables.

  59. 59.

    MazeDancer

    October 11, 2025 at 8:50 am

    Maybe Trump has threatened if the Epstein files get released, Johnson’s Grindr profile does, too?

  60. 60.

    Shalimar

    October 11, 2025 at 8:50 am

    Reminder that when they say Soros will pay for the protesters, it is because that is what they do when they protest.  Charlie Kirk’s organization paid for buses to get thousands of protesters to Washington for January 6th.

  61. 61.

    RevRick

    October 11, 2025 at 8:52 am

    @Gloria DryGarden: @Enhanced Voting Techniques: @Baud:

    When Epstein was in full swing, Johnson was a mere pissant Representative from a Louisiana backwater. Johnson was a nobody.

    He still is, even if he does hold the Speaker’s gavel.

  62. 62.

    mappy!

    October 11, 2025 at 8:53 am

    Inflatable Operation Inflation..

    Democrats don’t have the votes to end The Shutdown (Working for the Clampdown)

    Groceries were cheaper under Biden (All Lost in the Supermarket )

    Biden never mentioned pardoning Maxwell “I’m allowed to do it but nobody’s asked me to do it,”

  63. 63.

    iKropoclast

    October 11, 2025 at 8:56 am

    Aaron Rupar

    Mike Johnson: “It’s about keeping Congress operating so we can get to healthcare. We always were going to. They’re lying to you. Okay? The healthcare issues were always gonna be something discussed, deliberated, contemplated, and debated in October and November.”

    You already discussed, deliberated, contented, and debated healthcare. Then you cut working Americans’ healthcare subsidies.

    You need Democrats’ votes. This is their ask, one discrete item that was already part of law before, not out of line.

    That’s how these things work. You can’t hoard all the LEGOs and expect the other kids to play with you.

  64. 64.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 8:57 am

    @Jeffro: I ran into this September 9 post by Pessach Lattin. It’s about the Epstein/Trum financial connection:

       Everyone keeps obsessing about Epstein’s “little black book.” Wrong book.

    The real chapter is Bear Stearns.

    Epstein wasn’t just some freak on an island. He was a limited partner at Bear Stearns, plugged into the high-risk junk bond machine, then later running offshore vehicles like Liquid Funding Ltd– co-owned by Bear– that greased the CDO casino before 2008 blew up. He even parked $57M into another “Enhanced Leverage” fund that collapsed spectacularly.

    Now here’s the kicker: Bear Stearns also bankrolled Trump.

    Those Atlantic City casinos that “magically” went bankrupt but still left Trump standing? That was Bear Stearns underwriting $675M in junk bonds for the Taj Mahal and more. Epstein’s firm and Bear were part of the same pipeline propping up the house of cards.

    So when you connect the dots: Epstein wasn’t just Epstein. He was part of the Wall Street artery that helped fund Trump’s bankruptcies, the very ones he bragged about as “smart business.”

    They want you to think that Epstein and Trump are separate scandals. They’re not. They’re chapters in the same playbook of reckless finance, junk bonds, and disappearing accountability.

    Follow the money. Always.

    I know little about Pesach Lattin or finance, and Bear Stearns is long gone now–an old story. And financial matters lack the salience of sex trafficking crimes. Still, this sheds light on an important connection I was not aware of.

    Also, if one of the replies to Mr. Lattin’s post is true–and it seems credible– these shady investments were a means of laundering Russian mob money, and that casts a harsher backlight on Epstein’s mysterious death in a New York jail. The Russian mob would have had the motive and the means.

  65. 65.

    SFAW

    October 11, 2025 at 8:59 am

    they’re going to have to deal with the Epstein discharge petition. And Speaker Johnson seems like he REALLY doesn’t want to do that, with an intensity I can’t fully explain.

    “Speaker Johnson, why are you afraid to release the Epstein files? Is it because YOU appear in them – extensively? If so, should Pammy Blondie’s and Krash Patel’s minions be investigating YOU, instead of someone like NY AG Letitia James? How does the God you claim to believe in feel about your attempts to coverup and protect vile behavior by you and your friends?”

    Live boy or dead girl, as they say? Don’t really care, just want the focus to be on Johnson, and make him deny it. And deny it. And deny it.

    As with every Rethuglican: if those mofos were somehow prevented from lying, we’d never hear a sound from them.

  66. 66.

    p.a.

    October 11, 2025 at 9:05 am

    @New Deal democrat: I want it to last into the new year so I can grab some retirement $$$ in the new tax year and do cd buys for 2 years of semi yearly payouts.

  67. 67.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 9:07 am

    @RevRick

    Johnson was a nobody.

    Mr. Cellophane.     :)

    (Appropriate apologies to the multi-talented Ben Vereen.)

  68. 68.

    MagdaInBlack

    October 11, 2025 at 9:07 am

    @Geminid: ….to that Russian mob connection, add in the trafficking of girls from the former Soviet Union

  69. 69.

    p.a.

    October 11, 2025 at 9:07 am

    @SFAW: What kind of pressure is going on to get some signees to un-sign?

  70. 70.

    RevRick

    October 11, 2025 at 9:10 am

    @H.E.Wolf:

    Gradually, then suddenly. Ah, Seneca’s cliff!

  71. 71.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 11, 2025 at 9:13 am

    @RevRick: ​

    When Epstein was in full swing, Johnson was a mere pissant Representative from a Louisiana backwater. Johnson was a nobody.

    Tru dat. Johnson wouldn’t have been able to buy an invite to any of Epstein’s parties, let alone the island.

    He still is, even if he does hold the Speaker’s gavel.

    Ditto. He’s got to be the nobodiest nobody to have been House Speaker, at least in the past century or so.

  72. 72.

    WTFGhost

    October 11, 2025 at 9:14 am

    @Spanky: I’m surprised that Trump hasn’t already levied a bazillion percent tariff on inflatables.

    He still wants a girlfriend!

  73. 73.

    SFAW

    October 11, 2025 at 9:14 am

    @Geminid: ​
     
    Interesting stuff, especially if it’s mostly (or even partly) true.

  74. 74.

    Kayla Rudbek

    October 11, 2025 at 9:16 am

    @frosty: yeah, the Spanish monarchy seems to be pretty decent right now…

  75. 75.

    lowtechcyclist

    October 11, 2025 at 9:17 am

    Hey piratedan, I’ll be headed your way before too long. Bringing homemade pumpkin pie!

  76. 76.

    prostratedragon

    October 11, 2025 at 9:20 am

    @Geminid: ✔️

  77. 77.

    Princess

    October 11, 2025 at 9:20 am

    @Anonymous Expat: You could be right. I recall that tape that brought down that Cawthorn fellow. On the other hand, it would be so easy for the tapes that incriminate his people to disappear. Entangled financial transactions are harder to partially launder. That’s why I think it’s money. I hope we get the chance to learn!

  78. 78.

    Betty Cracker

    October 11, 2025 at 9:21 am

    @WTFGhost: I don’t doubt Trump is a rapist and possibly a kid-diddler, but I don’t assume he relied on Epstein as a procurer since he had his own grotesque networks. Maybe that’s wrong, but as far as I know, there’s no solid evidence one way or another, and Trump’s behavior suggests he didn’t think there was anything in the files that would criminally implicate him.

    Remember that Trump was president when Epstein was arrested on federal charges. Trump’s flunkies knew what was in those files when they hyped the release during the campaign. I think they got out over their skis, and now it’s come back to bite them. Good!

    As for what’s actually in the files, my guess is that the Trump DOJ and then the Biden DOJ didn’t release them because they contain lots of non-legally actionable speculation about the criminal actions of powerful people.

    Usually it would be the right thing not to expose individuals on the basis of non-legally actionable gossip, even if they’re scumbags, but I confess I wouldn’t mind it in this case. It seems like every perverted rich person was in Epstein’s orbit, and the Acosta-brokered deal on the Florida charges was the first miscarriage of justice. So fuck ‘em.

  79. 79.

    Princess

    October 11, 2025 at 9:23 am

    @New Deal democrat: what kind of precipitating  event would tip it over the edge and make it happen? What are we waiting for? Or is one necessary? Will it collapse from the inside? I saw with dot com, some people think it was Japan sliding into recession that set it off. Others said Greenspan raising rates.

    ETA should read more carefully — I see you address this at the end.

  80. 80.

    Sally

    October 11, 2025 at 9:25 am

    @AM in NC: Bravo to you, really.

  81. 81.

    prostratedragon

    October 11, 2025 at 9:25 am

    Trump’s Albert Speer-style German Arch of Triumph now planned for DC.

    ******
    Mike Luckovich

  82. 82.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 9:28 am

    @H.E.Wolf: Howdy, Comrade Wolf! If you be hankerin’ for another western, I ran across another Louis L’Amour novel you might cotton to: Conagher (1969).

    It’s about a lonely cowboy scrapping with the ornery Ladder Five outfit, and a lonely woman who writes poems and ties them to tumbleweeds

  83. 83.

    iKropoclast

    October 11, 2025 at 9:29 am

    @prostratedragon: Never wants anything original. Always what someone else has.

  84. 84.

    Professor Bigfoot

    October 11, 2025 at 9:30 am

    @New Deal democrat: It feels like a bubble to me, too.

    Those of us who remember the dotcom craze recognize the current AI craze; but worse— the servers in those data centers are more likely to be obsolete in less than 5 years.

  85. 85.

    prostratedragon

    October 11, 2025 at 9:31 am

    @iKropoclast:  DC is  meticulously laid out. Where exactly does he think to drop that monstrosity?

  86. 86.

    Anonymous Expat

    October 11, 2025 at 9:33 am

    @Princess: I hope we get the chance to learn, too; America is awash in uninvestigated, let alone unindicted, white-collar crime.

    The push to ban members of Congress from stock ownership should be used as a jumping-off point to beginning to actually enforce those laws.

  87. 87.

    rikyrah

    October 11, 2025 at 9:33 am

    @Jeffro:

    The way we aren’t obsessed with those files is amusing to me. Our view is .

    You in those files, you get what you have coming to you 😒😒😒

  88. 88.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 9:34 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Usually it would be the right thing not to expose individuals on the basis of non-legally actionable gossip, even if they’re scumbags, but I confess I wouldn’t mind it in this case.

     
    They ran on it and won.

  89. 89.

    rikyrah

    October 11, 2025 at 9:34 am

    @Baud:

    Has she been a good Governor?

  90. 90.

    iKropoclast

    October 11, 2025 at 9:34 am

    @prostratedragon: DC is meticulously laid out. Where exactly does he think to drop that monstrosity?

    Drop it? On the Wicked Witch of the East, so by Trump:s estimation…maybe Fani Willis?

    It could figure into the plans for that monstrosity of a ballroom.

  91. 91.

    rikyrah

    October 11, 2025 at 9:35 am

    @Scout211:

    Phuck Outta Here 😡😡😡

    Ridiculous

  92. 92.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 9:35 am

    @prostratedragon

    Originally to be two golden arches, until McD’s got wind of it.
    //

  93. 93.

    Professor Bigfoot

    October 11, 2025 at 9:36 am

    @Spanky: Speaking as one who once worked for a Chinese company and visited there regularly— one can get every level of quality from China, from the very finest to absolute crap.

    They will be priced accordingly. 😉

  94. 94.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 9:38 am

    @rikyrah:

    Yes, she’s excellent. Here only problem is her age. But that’s something for ME primary voters to consider.

  95. 95.

    Nukular Biskits

    October 11, 2025 at 9:39 am

    Good mornin’, y’all! Damn it’s been a long week.

    Beautiful weather here today.

    And, yes, I will be attending my local protest next Saturday, come hell or high water.  Y’all?

  96. 96.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 9:39 am

    @Professor Bigfoot

    to absolute crap.

    See: wish.com
    :)

  97. 97.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 9:42 am

    @Nukular Biskits

    Not yet recovered from the monthly jaunt into town on Friday, where by early afternoon it was 93 degrees.

  98. 98.

    Professor Bigfoot

    October 11, 2025 at 9:42 am

    @Kayla Rudbek:  Derek Guy always references King Felipe and his tailors as the epitome of fine tailoring and dressing well.

  99. 99.

    brendancallinge

    October 11, 2025 at 9:42 am

    @Baud: oh good. Another fellow kid running for office. Where these whippersnappers get the energy—and the gall—to try to force out their elders is beyond me.

    I say shes too young to run: she should wait til she’s truly mature enough—say, 97 years old—like her erstwhile colleagues.

  100. 100.

    brendancalling

    October 11, 2025 at 9:44 am

    Why is my comment above in moderation??

    ahh, wait. My phone has this habit of loading slowly and then being unable to put text where it belongs. This has messed up my nym. Sigh. ONE MORE TIME:

     

    @Baud: oh good. Another fellow kid running for office. Where these whippersnappers get the energy—and the gall—to try to force out their elders is beyond me.

    I say shes too young to run: she should wait til she’s truly mature enough—say, 97 years old—like her erstwhile colleagues.

  101. 101.

    Cliosfanboy

    October 11, 2025 at 9:45 am

    @prostratedragon: It’s on the Virginia side of Memorial Bridge, the circle where the parkway and traffic from over the bridge meet.  I go through that circle several times a week.

  102. 102.

    prostratedragon

    October 11, 2025 at 9:46 am

    @NotMax:  TACO Bell instead?

  103. 103.

    prostratedragon

    October 11, 2025 at 9:48 am

    @Baud:  We’re in a short-term world until we get enough traction.

  104. 104.

    Nukular Biskits

    October 11, 2025 at 9:49 am

    @NotMax:

    Weekend watch. The more you know…

    What Happens When You Die On A Cruise Ship?

    LOL! Dude. I worry about you sometimes.

    Related – Remind me later to share a story about my first-ever underway on a legit cruise ship (mind you, I’ve been underway hundreds of times on US Navy vessels).

  105. 105.

    Another Scott

    October 11, 2025 at 9:51 am

    @hobbitdreams:

    State of Illinois v. Trump
    memorandum opinion and order — Document #70
    District Court, N.D. Illinois
    Docket Number: 1:25-cv-12174
    – 51 page .PDF. See, especially, footnote #1 where Alexander Hamilton schools 47.

    Temporary Restraining Order – 2 page .PDF.

    Temporary stay is DENIED.

    Expires 11:59 PM on October 23.

    HTH!

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  106. 106.

    prostratedragon

    October 11, 2025 at 9:52 am

    @Cliosfanboy:  By the C-L mansion?

  107. 107.

    artem1s

    October 11, 2025 at 10:00 am

    @Geminid:

    Also, if one of the replies to Mr. Lattin’s post is true–and it seems credible– these shady investments were a means of laundering Russian mob money, and that casts a harsher backlight on Epstein’s mysterious death in a New York jail. The Russian mob would have had the motive and the means.

    Sex is what’s keeping Estein alive in the media and social media sites. Sex sells. But where and who money came from and went to is what the GOP is really afraid of being exposed.

  108. 108.

    prostratedragon

    October 11, 2025 at 10:04 am

    @prostratedragon:

    Answered my own questions [My emph]:

    The closest Metro station to the bridge is Arlington Cemetery. The bridge connects, both literally and symbolically, the Lincoln Memorial and Arlington House, the former home of Civil War General Robert E. Lee. This placement was done intentionally to represent the reunification of the North and the South.

  109. 109.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 10:05 am

    @Nukular Biskits

    One aim is to drive the YouTube algorithm totally bonkers.
    :)

  110. 110.

    Cliosfanboy

    October 11, 2025 at 10:08 am

    @prostratedragon: that’s on the hill in the background. This monstrosity would be halfway between the Lincoln Memorial and Arlington House.

    maps.app.goo.gl/Koba3h5igvUH1pMn7

  111. 111.

    Miss Bianca

    October 11, 2025 at 10:08 am

    @Gloria DryGarden: Funny, that’s the first thing that came to my mind after reading that last…whatever you call a tweet on Bluesky.

  112. 112.

    artem1s

    October 11, 2025 at 10:09 am

    @Professor Bigfoot: It feels like a bubble to me, too.

    It feels like a bubble and another fad boondoogle to keep a bunch of VC crypto pump and dumps alive for a little longer. And give lawmakers a reason to support these stupid energy sucking server farms. remember NFTs? It was all about getting more suckers to sink money into crypto to keep that bubble going for a few more months/years. This AI fad might actually finally be the death of crypto if they manage to take out all those server farms at the same time. Communities are getting really fed up with these things being built in their back yards.

  113. 113.

    brendancalling

    October 11, 2025 at 10:11 am

    @Betty Cracker: he sounds like the defense lawyer character from Cheech and Chong’s “Trippin’ In Court” sketch, same tone and everything.

    ”Your honor, my client may have been found with [enormous amount of drugs], but there IS a reason, there IS an explanation. You see, my client simply FOUND these drugs and was on his way to the police to turn them in.”

    He also looks like the Martin Short character Nathan Thurm, the chain smoking, nervous corporate lawyer.

    I agree that SO much of this is to prevent the release of those files. Even MAGA is starting to figure it out.

  114. 114.

    Betty Cracker

    October 11, 2025 at 10:12 am

    @brendancalling: FWIW, I agree. If ME Dems nominate Mills, they’ll give up a powerful talking point against Collins. I also just don’t understand why the hell people who have the means don’t want to retire. Retired people (especially those with money!) get to do fun things, and if they want to, they can serve their communities in all sorts of ways!

  115. 115.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 10:12 am

    @artem1s

    Bored Ape got boring lickety-split.
    ‘;)

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 10:18 am

    @artem1s

    these stupid energy sucking server farms

    Power sucking POGs.
    //

  117. 117.

    eclare

    October 11, 2025 at 10:20 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I also will never understand why people with the means do not retire.  All I can conclude is that power must be one hell of a drug.

  118. 118.

    schrodingers_cat

    October 11, 2025 at 10:28 am

    @Baud: How come no one says that of fossils like Grassley and St Bernard

    I find  ageism and other soft core bigotries on our side off putting

    @Miss Bianca:

    I have lived in ME for close to 10 years, I have many close friends there and I visit there fairly often. I was just there this summer. And a DSA type is not going to win in ME. Collins is beloved in ME she has excellent constituent services and has brought a lot of $$ to the University of Maine.  A lot of independents and even Ds like her a lot.

    Mills has a real chance, the other guy who is running has little chance IMHO to take down Collins.

  119. 119.

    Miss Bianca

    October 11, 2025 at 10:29 am

    @eclare: you know, for some strange reason, I’ve decided to let the people of Maine decide who’s too old, too young, too whatever, to represent them.

    And that maybe, just maybe, Janet Mills knows something about her constituency that I don’t. And that maybe, just maybe, she’s being motivated by some reason beyond “power”. Crazy, I know, but people tell me that I am crazy, so I’m leanin’ into it.

  120. 120.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 10:30 am

    @eclare

    Methamgetamine.

    (Pronounced get-a-mine.)
    //

  121. 121.

    Miss Bianca

    October 11, 2025 at 10:33 am

    @Betty Cracker: I thought the major talking point against Collins wasn’t her age, it’s that she’s the embodiment of the “banality of evil” concept. Which can be true of someone regardless of age.

  122. 122.

    LAC

    October 11, 2025 at 10:37 am

    @sab: he is in MO, not MD.  Our idiots in Maryland are somewhat under control.

  123. 123.

    p.a.

    October 11, 2025 at 10:38 am

    Maine is the U.S. state with the oldest population, based on the highest median age and the greatest percentage of residents aged 65 and older. As of early 2025, Maine had the highest median age at 44.8 years, and the state also showed the largest share of its population (22.94%) being over 65.  

  124. 124.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 10:42 am

    @Betty Cracker: It could be Janet Mills really wants to pry Susan Collins out of that Senate seat and thinks she has the best chance.

    Mills could be right too. She’s won starewide office twice, and none of the other four candidates in the field have ever won one vote in one political race.

    But I figure Maine Democrats want to ditch Susan Collins as much or more than I do, and they know their state’s political landscape much better. So while I’ll follow this primary with interest because I’m curious about such things, I’m not going to kick about their decision, or Mills’s either

  125. 125.

    Another Scott

    October 11, 2025 at 10:44 am

    Meanwhile, 47 “successfully completed a scheduled follow-up” medical exam!!11ONE.

    Such strength. Much wow.

    The public letter released by the WhiteHouse says even less than usual for him.

    Bloomberg story has a little more:

    Trump’s visit included “advanced imaging, laboratory testing, and preventative health assessments,” according to Barbabella’s memo, which was otherwise silent on what was being assessed.

    The president received an influenza vaccination, as well as an updated Covid-19 booster during his exam.

    The appointment came as Trump has been spotted with swollen ankles and a persistent bruise on his right hand, which at times appears to have been covered with makeup. The White House said in July that Trump had been diagnosed with chronic venous insufficiency, a condition tied to swelling in the legs, but that physicians had otherwise found the president to be in “excellent health.”

    They don’t mention him doing “exceptionally well” on any cognitive exam this time…

    Rep. Crockett’s 8 page letter lists a bunch of things in the news and asks a bunch of reasonable questions.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  126. 126.

    Kayla Rudbek

    October 11, 2025 at 10:45 am

    @NotMax: and polluting as well, I have even seen continuing legal education about lawsuits against the data centers

  127. 127.

    schrodingers_cat

    October 11, 2025 at 10:46 am

    Maple Syrup Messiah is not happy about Mills running for the seat.

    Shamelessness is his superpower, where was this attitude in 2016?

  128. 128.

    Miss Bianca

    October 11, 2025 at 10:49 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Yeah, I’ve lived in Maine off and on over the years myself (admittedly as a “summer complaint”, mostly), and have relatives up there, so I’ve spent a fair amount of time there; and the temperature of the state does not strike me as particularly radical in a DSA-type way.

    But I will be very interested to see how this primary transpires.

    ETA: But I think Bernie Sanders should STFU about it, frankly. And I wonder why nobody harping about candidates’ ages isn’t suggesting that *he* shuffle off this political coil.

  129. 129.

    zhena gogolia

    October 11, 2025 at 10:49 am

    @Another Scott: Wow, that is a marvelous document. I wish it could be on the front page of the NYT.

  130. 130.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2025 at 10:49 am

    Another day, another empty mailbox containing no Soros check.

    Sorosssss!

  131. 131.

    Gloria DryGarden

    October 11, 2025 at 10:50 am

    @Baud: lol

    (Also, it doesn’t bear thinking of)

  132. 132.

    hobbitdreams

    October 11, 2025 at 10:51 am

    @Another Scott: Thank you! I knew you would come through. 😊

  133. 133.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2025 at 10:51 am

    @Another Scott: ​
     
    I maintain Barbabella is the love child of Barbarella and Vinnie Barbarino. Med school? As if.

  134. 134.

    p.a.

    October 11, 2025 at 10:53 am

    @schrodingers_cat: I keep reading Graham Parker for Graham Platner.  Don’t know if GP is a US resident but I’d support him in politics.

  135. 135.

    zhena gogolia

    October 11, 2025 at 10:54 am

    @trollhattan: I think Dr. Vinnie Boombatz is in there somewhere too.

  136. 136.

    Scout211

    October 11, 2025 at 10:55 am

    Former President Joe Biden is undergoing a new phase of treatment for an aggressive form of cancer that was diagnosed in May, a spokesperson said Saturday.

    “As part of a treatment plan for prostate cancer, President Biden is currently undergoing radiation therapy and hormone treatment,” according to the spokesperson for the former president.

    The radiation treatment is expected to span five weeks and marks a new point in his care, a source familiar told NBC News. He has already been taking a pill form of hormone medication.

    Good luck, President Biden. We are rooting for you. ❤️

  137. 137.

    PatrickG

    October 11, 2025 at 10:57 am

    @David_C:

    BTW, speaking of public health, I’m reading Tom Levenson’s book, So Very Small. So very enjoyable. So very relevant.

    I finally got around to reading it a few weeks ago. A very good read!

    He’s going to have to do a second edition, given that he published right before current events.

  138. 138.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2025 at 10:59 am

    @p.a.:

    Hey Lord, don’t ask me questions.

  139. 139.

    NotMax

    October 11, 2025 at 11:01 am

    @Scout211

    Fox audio clip: “Biden admits to consorting with hor…mones.”
    //

  140. 140.

    Miss Bianca

    October 11, 2025 at 11:03 am

    @Another Scott: Damn, Skippy. That was quite a read. Too badwe won’t be reading it on the front page of the FTFNYT any time soon…

  141. 141.

    Another Scott

    October 11, 2025 at 11:07 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    Dr. Nick, also too:

    He is inventor of Juice Loosener and Sun & Run.[1] He is also a doctor in charge of vocal chord scraping for Mr. Burns in his weekly treatment to cheat death.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  142. 142.

    p.a.

    October 11, 2025 at 11:08 am

    @Another Scott: His tailored cognitive exam is listing his pathetic nicknames, “crooked Hillary, sleepy Joe, “stolen election…”

  143. 143.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 11:17 am

    Those ingerested can find a good account of events leading to the Gaza ceasefire in the Times of Israel. It’s titled:

       From Doha strike to Sharm El-Sheikh breakthrough: how US brokered elusive Gaza deal

    This link ought to does not work. Not sure what the problem is, but its,a good summary of events so I will try linking again in a reply.

  144. 144.

    Another Scott

    October 11, 2025 at 11:21 am

    Meanwhile, I haven’t seen this mentioned here yet.

    APNews.com (from October 9):

    WASHINGTON (AP) — More than two decades later, Congress is on the verge of writing a closing chapter to the war in Iraq.

    The Senate voted Thursday to repeal the resolution that authorized the 2003 U.S. invasion, following a House vote last month that would return the basic war power to Congress.

    The amendment by Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, a Democrat, and Indiana Sen. Todd Young, a Republican, was approved by voice vote to an annual defense authorization bill that passed the Senate late Thursday — a unanimous endorsement for ending the war that many now view as a mistake.

    Iraqi deaths were estimated in the hundreds of thousands, and nearly 5,000 U.S. troops were killed in the war after President George W. Bush’s administration falsely claimed that then-President Saddam Hussein was stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.

    “That’s the way the war ends, not with a bang but a whimper,” Kaine said after the vote, which lasted only a few seconds with no debate and no objections. Still, he said, “America is forever changed by those wars, and the Middle East is too.”

    Supporters in both the House and Senate say the repeal is crucial to prevent future abuses and to reinforce that Iraq is now a strategic partner of the United States. The House added a similar amendment to its version of the defense measure in September, meaning the repeal is likely to end up in the final bill once the two chambers reconcile the two pieces of legislation. Both bills also repeal the 1991 authorization that sanctioned the U.S.-led Gulf War.

    While Congress appears poised to pass the repeal, it is unclear whether President Donald Trump will support it. During his first term, his administration cited the 2002 Iraq resolution as part of its legal justification for a 2020 U.S. drone strike that killed Iranian Gen. Qassim Soleimani. It has otherwise been rarely used.

    […]

    Long past time that this was ended.

    Congratulations to Sen. Kaine on the successful conclusion of years of work to get this done.

    A good thing.

    (47 will probably try to ignore it, as he does all the other laws he does not like. Grr…)

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  145. 145.

    rikyrah

    October 11, 2025 at 11:22 am

    @Scout211:

    This was a brilliant idea. More and more show up everyday. The complete mocking of those masked up thugs..

     

    CHEF’S KISS 💋

  146. 146.

    WaterGirl

    October 11, 2025 at 11:24 am

    @rockclimber: Welcome to commenting!

  147. 147.

    Betty Cracker

    October 11, 2025 at 11:26 am

    @Miss Bianca: If Mills wins the primary, I’ll be rooting for her to dislodge Furrowed Brow. I still don’t get why someone in their late 70s (or older) runs for office though. That goes for all of them.

  148. 148.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 11:27 am

    @Geminid: A link to the Times of Israel article about events leading up to the Gaza ceasefire that came into effect the night before last:

    timesofisrael.com/from-doha-strike-to-sharm-el-sheikh-breakthrough-how-us-brokered-elusive-gaza-deal…

  149. 149.

    rikyrah

    October 11, 2025 at 11:31 am

    @Baud:

    If she can appeal to those supposedly middle voters that continue to vote for  CONCERNED LITTLE SUSIE, I am all for her

  150. 150.

    rikyrah

    October 11, 2025 at 11:32 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Maine is an old State, in terms of demographics.

  151. 151.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 11:33 am

    @Another Scott: I noted it the other day. Hopefully, it survives conference. It should unless Trump intervenes.

  152. 152.

    rikyrah

    October 11, 2025 at 11:34 am

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Not his state. He should Mind his business 😒

  153. 153.

    Other MJS

    October 11, 2025 at 11:36 am

    @Scout211:

    This is an unacceptable betrayal of the American democracy,” Dickinson said

    It strikes me that Dems use “unacceptable” a lot, which for me has the emotional impact of “tsk-tsk”. How about “grotesque”, “outrageous”, “treasonous”. Or simply “betrayal”. Maybe we should all gift our reps with thesauruses.

  154. 154.

    sab

    October 11, 2025 at 11:37 am

    @LAC: Oops. Typo and failure to proofread. Though how’d  I hit m instead of d when they are at opposite sides of the keyboard

    ETA stands for Medical Doctor in this case. He was an ob/gyn.

  155. 155.

    piratedan

    October 11, 2025 at 11:38 am

    @lowtechcyclist: woohoo!

  156. 156.

    Spanky

    October 11, 2025 at 11:39 am

    @Another Scott: “Advanced imaging” is not on any routine exam

    Eta, OK, maybe a mammogram.

  157. 157.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 11:44 am

    @schrodingers_cat:

    That’s too bad. It probably means a lot of people will stay home rather than vote for Mills.

  158. 158.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 11:45 am

    @rikyrah:

    I have no idea who would be the best candidate against Susie, but it’s not my call.

  159. 159.

    schrodingers_cat

    October 11, 2025 at 11:48 am

    @Baud: IDK how popular he is in ME. Collins is well liked. Her father was a fixture in ME politics too. She is going to be hard for any D to beat. So we don’t need Magic Grandpa to put his thumb on the scale

    The last thing Mainers want is an outsider telling them what to do. They pride themselves on being independent.

  160. 160.

    Aziz, light!

    October 11, 2025 at 11:48 am

    @trollhattan: I made a sign for next weekend. On one side: “My Soros check must be in the mail.” On the other: “Antifa’s founder is my grandson.”

  161. 161.

    Another Scott

    October 11, 2025 at 11:50 am

    @Baud:

    👍

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  162. 162.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 11:50 am

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Bernie? Popular enough, I’m sure. Maine is a very white state and close to Vermont. It’s not like a lot of people need to stay home to turn the election. Susie’s tough against any candidate.

  163. 163.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 11:52 am

    @Jeffro:

    BINGO.

    2 choices, one realistic and proper, the other 1000% bull _ _ _ _.

    Guess which they go with…….

  164. 164.

    schrodingers_cat

    October 11, 2025 at 11:52 am

    @Baud: You are probably right.

  165. 165.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2025 at 11:58 am

    Plans released for Donny’s next July 4 celebration.

    bbc.com/news/videos/c8rvrk3y1rno

  166. 166.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 11:59 am

    @lowtechcyclist:

    It’s not reasoning it’s defense.

    They know they are doing wrong, and they don’t care about anything but getting caught.

  167. 167.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 11, 2025 at 12:00 pm

    Need an outfit for the No Kings protests? Prices of inflatable frog costumes have jumped, but you can DYI an adorable froggy visor.

  168. 168.

    Sister Golden Bear

    October 11, 2025 at 12:01 pm

    @Gloria DryGarden:

    You’d almost think Mike Johnson was in those Epstein files himself…

    Is it irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.

  169. 169.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 12:03 pm

    @Geminid: I see that Kay, tbe former Balloon Juice commenter, has a good post about the Gaza ceasefire over on Mistermix’s blog. She included a long passage from a Wall Street Journal article describing the US’s role supporting the ceasefire process, plus a gift link to the entire article. The WSJ might have the best reporting on this war of any US news site.

  170. 170.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 12:06 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    Prices of inflatable frog costumes have jumped,

     
    Stupid tariffs.

  171. 171.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 12:07 pm

    @Baud: I expect the vast majority of Graham Platner’s supporters to sit out the election because they don’t live in Maine.

  172. 172.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 12:09 pm

    @Geminid:

    There are a few other people running too, IIRC.

  173. 173.

    Another Scott

    October 11, 2025 at 12:12 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear: I was just looking around the Big River place.  Lots of choices in creature shapes.  The idea is great, but I can see the batteries running down (and one wants to think about whether they need access to their hands…) I’ll probably just go with a relevant T-shirt (from the Pitchbot store).

    Thanks.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  174. 174.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2025 at 12:13 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    He and his kid have pledged to not consume porn. They didn’t say anything about making porn.

  175. 175.

    eclare

    October 11, 2025 at 12:17 pm

    @Geminid:

    What was the title of the article?  I can add a gift link here.

    Got it.

    wsj.com/world/middle-east/gaza-rebuilding-government-next-e271530b?st=y36fYY&reflink=desktopweb…

  176. 176.

    Baud

    October 11, 2025 at 12:21 pm

    This is a acceptable in America society.

    A new Noem video is being played at airports trashing Democrats

  177. 177.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 12:24 pm

    @Baud: Yes. Besides Mills and Platner, a former Katie Porter staffer, a brewpub owner, and a former Air Force officer are also running.

  178. 178.

    dc

    October 11, 2025 at 12:28 pm

    @Baud: ​
      I know it doesn’t matter in this regime, but isn’t that ilegal use of government paid resources? Who/how can sue for to stop this and the stupid notices on government websites?

  179. 179.

    no body no name

    October 11, 2025 at 12:29 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot:

    A ton of stuff on Amazon and Etsy is sourced from Temu and resold at a markup.  It’s laughable at times.

  180. 180.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 12:30 pm

    @piratedan:

    I do wonder how we turned out so many sociopaths in our society.

    Wealth.

    It’s nice to not live paycheck to paycheck, it’s nice to have an expensive home, it’s nice to drive a car that costs more than the average yearly income……

    And on and on. Wealth is nicer than a weekly paycheck. Nicer than an apartment in the middle class part of town, nicer than driving an 8 yr old car, nicer than taking a vacation at a hotel near your cousin, etc, etc.

    Most of us live middle class lives, some a step or 2 above, some a step or 2 below. Living a life of wealth is nicer. Of course to do that one has to have an income and/or bank account a few steps higher than average. I worked in a professional sport full time for 10 years and saw some very nice houses of people that supported the sport, who spent the money that supported the top participants. They were nice, normal humans with money, sometimes MONEY. They had earned that money in one rational, legal way or another. Not everyone with money earned that money, some had family that left them a fair bit of it. So, while I am working class retired, I’ve met a fair number of people that are now well off retired. Or even well off working, living in extremely nice houses, in extremely nice neighborhoods, that most of us never could. They never held it over others, they had just been very successful and often lucky and if you didn’t see their homes, you’d never have known them to be wealthy. But the inherited lucky were sometimes different, entitled, sometimes “above the normal folks.” I thought of them as snooty.

  181. 181.

    Geminid

    October 11, 2025 at 12:31 pm

    @eclare: Thanks. The article covers the role of the US command center that’s being set up in Israel, as well as the International Stabilization Force it will coordinate with. These are essential components of the larger deal.

  182. 182.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 12:32 pm

    I looked up DO since wasn’t familiar with the term.

    DO stands for doctor of osteopathic medicine. They use the same conventional medical techniques as MDs but with a few other methods. DOs tend to focus more on holistic health and prevention. In holistic health, all parts of a person, including their mind, body, and emotions, are considered during the treatment. They also use a system of physical manipulations and adjustments to diagnose and treat people

    More than half of DOs work in primary care, but they can also specialize in another area, just like MDs.

    DOs have all the same responsibilities and rights as MDs, including the abilities to perform surgery with proper training and prescribe medicine.
    There are a lot more MDs than DOs in the United States. Almost 9 in 10 doctors who went to a U.S. medical school have an MD degree. One study found that around 19% of doctor’s visits were to DOs, and 81% were to MDs.
    Both allopathic medical schools and colleges of osteopathic medicine are competitive to get into. However, students attending colleges of osteopathic medicine have slightly lower average GPAs and MCAT scores compared to students attending medical schools. ‌
    These lower GPAs and MCAT scores do not necessarily reflect the quality of students in DO programs. There are fewer students in colleges of osteopathic medicine compared to allopathic medical schools. Only a quarter of medical students in the U.S. attend a college of osteopathic medicine. But interest in the DO degree is rising: between 2011-2012 and 2021-2022, enrollment in DO programs increased by 68%.
    DOs also learn about how the bones, nerves, and muscles work together and influence people’s health. They spend extra time (usually about 200 hours) studying osteopathic manipulative medicine (OMM). This is also called osteopathic manipulative technique (OMT). OMT focuses on methods used to relieve back pain, neck pain, strained muscles, and other conditions.

  183. 183.

    Ishiyama

    October 11, 2025 at 12:42 pm

    @brendancallinge: Kudos for the Firesign Theater reference. “Hello, fellow kids!”

  184. 184.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 12:44 pm

    We have an elderly man as President, am totally clueless why the White House doesn’t have a physician, as the personal physician, who specializes in older care. Rather than doctor whose specialties appear to be ER and tactical medicine.  It’s not like the White House is a physical battle ground with chance of bloody carnage.

    Decorated Navy DO is named Physician to the President – American Osteopathic Association

  185. 185.

    Eyeroller

    October 11, 2025 at 1:00 pm

    @Karen Gail: Osteopathy is pseudoscience.  The “allopathic” part was added so they can practice legally as physicians.  They are still taught useless manipulations but they have to do residencies and pass the same licensing exams as MDs.  Currently osteopathic medical schools seem to be a way into the profession for students who couldn’t quite get into a conventional medical school (though it’s still competitive).

    Some DOs do sell themselves as “holistic” but that doesn’t really mean much.

  186. 186.

    Eyeroller

    October 11, 2025 at 1:01 pm

    @Karen Gail: They use military physicians.

  187. 187.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    October 11, 2025 at 1:03 pm

    @Eyeroller:

    I have a good friend who’s a DO and described it exactly that way.  Couldn’t quite get into med school so went the DO route.

    I’ve had a couple of DOs over the years as my primary, they’re fine.

  188. 188.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 1:05 pm

    @Eyeroller: I can’t believe that there are no military physicians practicing who take care of older people; we have older flag officers that would need much different care than younger active troops.

    But then from what we have seen in White Housse physicians honesty and practical knowledge seems to be lack. The first one? made Trump an inch taller in records so that he wouldn’t register as obese.

  189. 189.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 1:09 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: I had one help me deal with my cancer; I didn’t want chemo and read about what is done in Europe. The one I found had spent time in Europe learning other ways to treat cancer other than chemo. The big thing for me, at the time, was I had two different types of cancer neither one that should be treated with chemo but the oncologists at University were all on the chemo wagon. (More than one admitted that to use chemo on my thyroid cancer would probably make it worse. If not the thyroid cancer then it would make the malignant melanoma worse.) One of the oncologists did suggest the Doctor I ended up seeing.

  190. 190.

    MazeDancer

    October 11, 2025 at 1:15 pm

    Tish James has been letting her niece stay in the house she bought for her for little to no rent.

    Good-bye baseless case.

    Anna Bower reports.

  191. 191.

    p.a.

    October 11, 2025 at 1:16 pm

    @Karen Gail: My current PCP is a DO.  No issues, and he hasn’t once mentioned manipulations of any kind, and I do have a cranky back and bad shoulder.  I believe he went to med school on the Navy’s dime in return for active service duty.

  192. 192.

    Kayla Rudbek

    October 11, 2025 at 1:21 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot: Ars Technica has had Ed Zitron on, and the Futurist and the Register are also shouting this out from the rooftops

  193. 193.

    Kayla Rudbek

    October 11, 2025 at 1:23 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot: if you’re royalty you should be setting the standard and keeping professionals in business (as long as you and the country can afford it)

  194. 194.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2025 at 1:26 pm

    Two guesses as to his party, the second shall not count.

    1. Assemblyman Heath Flora does not live in the Central Valley home that is registered as his “legal domicile.” Flora represents vast acres of farmland in California’s central valley. For years, he lived in Ripon, a conservative city of about 16,000 along Highway 99 with a one-street downtown. After he and his ex-wife sold their Ripon home in 2022, Flora registered to vote at a Modesto property owned by his parents, the same address as their longtime farming equipment business, a little over 70 miles from the Capitol.

    Heath Flora’s ex-wife, confirmed her daughters stay with the lawmaker every other weekend — including when the Legislature is not in session — at a home in Sacramento’s Arden neighborhood.

    2. Public documents show he collects taxpayer-funded per diem expenses during the legislative session despite apparently living full-time in Sacramento. Despite his proximity to the Capitol, public documents from the state Assembly show Flora collects “per diem,” a taxpayer-funded stipend for the food and lodging legislators use while away from home. The income is tax-free unless the lawmaker lives within 50 miles of the Capitol

    3. Court records show he didn’t pay child support to his wife until a court-initiated wage garnishment. While married, Flora had an affair with a lobbyist. His wife, Melodie Flora, filed for divorce in the aftermath of the affair, and a year later, filed to receive child support from her former husband. Court documents show the two parties came to an agreement for Heath Flora to begin paying $2,000 per month in June 2023. But two months later, her lawyer filed a request to the Assembly for Heath Flora’s income from the state to be withheld for lack of payment of child support.

    4. Expense records show he spent over $600,000 given to his political campaign by special interest groups in 2024, with a significant portion going to travel, lodging and meals. Campaign finance records show that in 2024, Flora received $624,304 to his Flora for Assembly 2024 account and spent $606,213 of it. That money came largely from corporations that have an interest in how California crafts regulations and legislation.

    sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article312459502.html#storylink=cpy

    Not included above is the requisite divorce due to banging a lobbyist.

  195. 195.

    TONYG

    October 11, 2025 at 1:31 pm

    I had to look up Roger Marshall.  Senator from goddamn Kansas.  Another deadbeat red state that gets more in federal benefits than it pays in federal taxes.  As a New Jersey taxpayer, I’m subsidizing those assholes.  They at least should send me a thank-you note.

  196. 196.

    Soprano2

    October 11, 2025 at 1:34 pm

    @eclare: Reasons I don’t retire even though I could:

    1. I like my job. It gives me a reason to get up in the morning and feel like I’m doing good.

    2. They’re finally paying me a decent salary. Also, they finally listen to me!

    3. It keeps my life from being consumed by caretaking.

    4. People have told me I’ll know when I’m ready; I’m not there yet.

    It’s easy to say you’d retire if you had the chance; it’s not so easy to do.

  197. 197.

    trollhattan

    October 11, 2025 at 1:41 pm

    Have they also reanimated Leni Reifenstahl?

    Holy crap this is awful.

    bsky.app/profile/ronfilipkowski.bsky.social/post/3m2w5eixins2v

  198. 198.

    Another Scott

    October 11, 2025 at 1:43 pm

    Meanwhile, in scientific publishing land … TheRegister.com:

    A Wiley spokesperson told The Register that there were a couple of AI adoption hurdles that were lowered in the past year, with fewer respondents reporting that they lacked time to explore their AI options and more being comfortable figuring out where to begin using AI.

    It’s also worth noting that the number of participants in Wiley’s 2025 survey of researchers was around half the size of 2024’s cadre. In other words, there may be some self-selection for researchers going on here, and it’s not an enthusiastic one.

    Researchers have good reason to be skeptical of AI’s ability to assist in their tasks. There’s been increased scrutiny around AI’s use in writing scientific papers, and a recent study from Carnegie Mellon University found that AI agents fail at about 70 percent of assigned tasks.

    Companies adopting generative AI aren’t seeing much payoff either, with an MIT report finding that only around five percent of GenAI pilots deliver a measurable return on investment. AI has also made some huge promises in the science and medical research space that have yet to materialize, and even industry leaders are starting to admit today’s models probably won’t deliver the breakthroughs they once touted.

    […]

    Despite the established history of AI failing to deliver, and researchers’ fears about its usage, most respondents who are using it still believe that it’s helping them out.

    According to Wiley’s data, 85 percent of researchers believe AI has made them more efficient, while 77 percent believe that it’s helped them output more work. 73 percent believe AI is increasing the quality of their work, and 70 percent said that they like to use it for brainstorming.

    Suggesting there’s truth to a recent MIT study that found the use of AI lowers brain activity, just 48 percent of researcher respondents said AI helped them think critically.

    […]

    One can argue that new processes and technologies are always like this, and that can be true. Still…

    Marketoonist.com (from 3/27/2023)

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  199. 199.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 1:48 pm

    @p.a.: For years my Doctor was an MD who specialized in “Ingrative Medicine” I liked that he didn’t jump to write prescriptions but looked at whole body. When I first went to him he did a complete blood work up; caught that shingles virus was low level active, and strangely that I had a level of lead in blood. Guess all those years of lead exposure never really go away. He had a chiropractor on staff but never suggested that I see him for my back pain; you break you back and a good chiropractor won’t touch you.

  200. 200.

    Soprano2

    October 11, 2025 at 1:52 pm

    @Scout211: I wish him and his family luck. That hormone treatment is effective, but it can be brutal. My husband’s last boss had it; hubby said he acted like a 14-year-old girl right after the  treatment. It wasn’t his fault, that’s the effect the hormone treatment can have.

  201. 201.

    MisterForkbeard

    October 11, 2025 at 2:00 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Literally the first thing I thought was “Popular sitting governor isn’t a bad choice, but how old is she?”

    Sigh.

  202. 202.

    jowriter

    October 11, 2025 at 2:01 pm

    @rikyrah: I am not a resident of Maine but we have a family place up there. Mills has done a commendable job and is timed out on running again for governor.  Maine has one of the oldest (if not the oldest) demographics in the US so the fact that she is in her late 70s is not such a stretch.  I’d like to see how Platner (currently trying for the D spot to run against Collins) could swipe the ME-O2 House seat from Golden, who was the only Dem to vote with the GOP on the execrable BBB.  Golden is annoying but he has held that seat.  Would be a big deal if Platner could unseat him for the Dem spot there. Would be fantastic if either of them could beat Collins.  They are both natives and both ME-02 residents, being “from here” is important to Maine voters.

  203. 203.

    Soprano2

    October 11, 2025 at 2:05 pm

    @Karen Gail: I agree, he would be better served by a gerentologist.

  204. 204.

    Another Scott

    October 11, 2025 at 2:08 pm

    Meanwhile, re the Epstein files, … JustSecurity.org timeline:

    Reminder – Donold was POTUS in 2020.

    […]

    18. Deficiencies in the 2020 OPR report

    The DOJ’s OPR report drew sharp criticism as a “whitewash”: the Department initially released only an executive summary to the public (the full report later surfaced via the Washington Post), and it recast what many viewed to be clear professional misconduct as mere “poor judgment.” Critics of the report included the lead prosecutor in the Southern District of Florida. In court, victims’ counsel also argued that DOJ had withheld key documents and failed to retrieve critical records — despite acknowledged victim-notification failures and the premature closure of the federal probe.

    The report downplayed a “data gap” in Alex Acosta’s email inbox that lasted between May 2007 to April 2008—a crucial period, spanning from the time when Acosta’s Office prepared a draft indictment against Epstein to shortly before Epstein pleaded guilty in state court, during which Epstein’s lawyers aggressively lobbied federal prosecutors to end the federal case. As former judge Paul Cassell, one of the victims’ attorneys, said, “The gap seems to have surgically struck on exactly the time period when most of the big decisions were being made. I was stunned because you would think if there was ever a case where the Justice Department would have been very careful to make sure they had complete records and things weren’t missing, this would be the one.” But mention of Acosta’s missing emails were only in a brief section in an appendix on “methodology” in the report.

    Victims rebuked the OPR report as a “slap in the face” and said they were giving up hope of ever achieving real accountability.

    (a) Criticisms of OPR by Southern District of Florida lead prosecutor Marie Villafaña, who drafted the federal indictment against Epstein in 2007

    The lead prosecutor in the US Attorney’s Office, Marie Villafaña, made a public statement after the OPR’s report was released sharply criticizing “implicit institutional biases that prevented me and the FBI agents who worked diligently on this case from holding Mr. Epstein accountable for his crimes” and the failure of OPR to consider those factors:

    “I am pleased that OPR finally has completed its investigation but am disappointed that it has not released the full report so the victims and the public can have a fuller accounting of the depth of interference that led to the patently unjust outcome in the Epstein case.”

    “That injustice, I believe, was the result of deep, implicit institutional biases that prevented me and the FBI agents who worked diligently on this case from holding Mr. Epstein accountable for his crimes. By not considering those implicit biases based on gender and socioeconomic status, OPR lost an opportunity to make recommendations for institutional changes that could prevent results like this one from occurring in the future.” (emphasis added)

    (b) From victims’ lawyers and survivors

    Jena-Lisa Jones (victim): “It felt very much like another slap in the face.” “I’m still very, very mad at this whole situation.” “I was hoping to have a little bit more peace when I came out of this, a little bit more answers on to what had happened, what was going on. And if anything, it left me more angry.” She further said, “I honestly don’t think that anybody will take responsibility in any sense, in any shape or form in the way that they actually should as adults.”

    Dainya Nida (victim): “Any time I am involved in any of this I never have any expectations anymore because I know I am never going to get the answer why.”

    Paul Cassell (a former federal judge and lawyer representing victims): “I think, frankly, what we got was an effort to paper over what happened.” “I think they’re trying to put the most favorable light on what’s clearly misconduct on the part of their attorneys.” He also said the report was “a coverup,” blasted OPR for not interviewing Epstein’s defense attorneys, and flagged a “technical glitch” that left a year-long gap in Alex Acosta’s incoming emails during key decision months.“How can you possibly claim you’ve done a thorough investigation without exploring these issues?” “The report lets Acosta take the fall for everybody,” Cassell said, adding, “That’s very convenient since he’s left the Justice Department.”

    Brad Edwards (lawyer representing victims) criticized the report for “backing into the conclusions they wanted.” “They decided before it started, how are we going to reach the conclusion that there was no wrongdoing or that the victims’ rights weren’t violated.” “And let’s figure out a way to maneuver around the actual facts and reach those conclusions.” He also said, “They just say he used poor judgment, and that’s their way of basically letting everyone off the hook while offering some sort of an olive branch to the victims that we acknowledge weren’t treated perfectly.” “But nobody really did anything wrong. It’s really offensive. It’s hurtful.”

    Adam Horowitz (lawyer representing victims): “The mountain of mistakes was not just poor judgment. It was reckless.”

    (c) Congressional reaction

    Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE), Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Oversight Subcommittee: “Letting a well-connected billionaire get away with child rape and international sex trafficking isn’t ‘poor judgment’ — it is a disgusting failure. Americans ought to be enraged.” “Epstein should be rotting behind bars today, but the Justice Department failed Epstein’s victims at every turn.” “The DOJ’s crooked deal with Epstein effectively shut down investigations into his child sex trafficking ring and protected his co-conspirators in other states. Justice has not been served.” “The full report needs to be released to the public. OPR might have finished its report, but we have an obligation to make sure this never happens again.”

    Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA.): ““How is letting a child sex trafficker walk free anything but gross professional misconduct? How is keeping the plea deal secret from the survivors not a clear violation of the Crime Victims’ Rights Act? The light-handedness of OPR’s report is just the latest in a long series of failures by the Justice Department to deliver justice for these young women and girls.”

    (d) Judicial reaction

    In re Courtney Wild, 994 F.3d 1244 (11th Cir. en banc 2021) (Judge Frank Hull, dissenting) p. 182, n10: “The DOJ’s failure to discipline its own prosecutors heightens the importance of the CVRA’s private right of action. … Given the OPR Report, it is hardly surprising the victims continue to pursue this civil suit to discover and unravel the mystery of why the prosecutors not only signed such a sweetheart plea deal for the billionaire Epstein in the first place but did so in secret and then for nearly a year took great efforts to hide the Agreement by affirmative misrepresentations to the victims and their counsel too.

    19. Blocking DOJ Inspector General from investigating failures

    (a) The Deputy Attorney General denied the Department’s Office of Inspector General’s requests to review the NPA, according to statements by the Inspector General provided to Congress in May 2021:

    “The IG Access Act is needed precisely because the Department has consistently denied the OIG’s requests to investigate serious allegations of professional misconduct by lawyers, including the circumstances under which Jeffrey Epstein received a non-prosecution agreement from the Southern District of Florida. The NAAUSA letter also asserts that because current law allows the OIG to investigate attorney professional misconduct with the approval of the Deputy Attorney General, there is no need for the IG Access Act. Although NAAUSA is correct that existing Department regulations allow the OIG to request authority from the Deputy Attorney General to conduct a professional misconduct investigation, the reality is that in every instance where the OIG has made a request pursuant to the regulation, the then Deputy Attorney General has denied the OIG’s request, including the Epstein case. Moreover, requiring the OIG to request permission from Department leadership to handle a matter, and empowering the Deputy Attorney General to “block” OIG oversight of a serious misconduct allegation, undermines IG independence and is inconsistent with the Inspector General Act.” p. 4 (emphasis added).

    (b) Inspector General told Congress again in October 2021:

    “Although existing Department regulations allow the OIG to request authority from the Deputy Attorney General to conduct a professional misconduct investigation, the reality is that in every instance where the OIG has made a request pursuant to the regulation, the then Deputy Attorney General has denied the OIG’s request. That includes, most recently, the OIG’s request to investigate the circumstances under which Jeffrey Epstein received a non-prosecution agreement from the Southern District of Florida.” p. 3.

    20. Executive Branch handling of the Epstein file and Maxwell imprisonment in 2025
    The Justice Department engaged in the following conduct in 2025:

    (a) After senior officials promised to provide the public with transparency in releasing information in the Epstein file, an unsigned memo by DOJ and FBI stated on July 7, 2025:

    “One of our highest priorities is combatting child exploitation and bringing justice to victims. Perpetuating unfounded theories about Epstein serves neither of those ends. To that end, while we have labored to provide the public with maximum information regarding Epstein and ensured examination of any evidence in the government’s possession, it is the determination of the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation that no further disclosure would be appropriate or warranted.” (emphasis added).

    Note-1: Attorney General Pam Bondi reportedly ordered the FBI to engage in an extraordinary review of all the files and to “flag” any records in which President Trump was mentioned, a process that took place from March 14 to late March (see Sen. Durbin letter to AG Bondi). In May, Attorney General Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche reportedly informed the president that his name appears multiple times in the files.

    Note-2: The longtime Section Chief of the FBI’s Record/Information Dissemination Section was reportedly forced out after clashing with senior DOJ/FBI officials over the process for handling the files.

    (b) The DOJ and FBI July 7 memo also stated (implausibly): “We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.”

    Annie Farmer’s attorneys wrote to federal courts:

    “[T]he Government’s recent suggestion that no further criminal investigations are forthcoming is a cowardly abdication of its duties to protect and serve. It is obviously impossible for two people to conduct a decades-long sex-trafficking enterprise involving thousands of victims without other individuals who participated in and facilitated these unspeakable atrocities.” p. 1.

    (c) The DOJ did not communicate with victims before requesting the release of grand jury materials in the Epstein and Maxwell cases, an omission revealed after the judges in those cases asked whether DOJ had done so.

    Victims’ attorneys Edwards and Cassel told Judge Berman:

    “Given our history fighting for the enforcement of the CVRA on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein’s many victims, we were quite surprised to learn that the government sought the unsealing of grand jury materials before this Court without first conferring with the victims or their counsel, a step required by the CVRA and reinforced by Doe v. United States, 08-80736 (S.D. Fla.). … This omission reinforces the perception that the victims are, at best, an afterthought to the current administration.” p. 2.

    (d) Judge Engelmeyer strongly criticized the government for its request to unseal the grand jury transcripts. The court emphasized repeatedly that the transcripts would provide no information that was not already a part of the public record. He remarked, “A member of the public, appreciating that the Maxwell grand jury materials do not contribute anything to public knowledge, might conclude that the Government’s motion for their unsealing was aimed not at ‘transparency’ but at diversion—aimed not at full disclosure but at the illusion of such” (emphasis added). And he suggested the government’s false claims that the grand jury transcripts contained critical information may have misled the victims. “Had the Government’s motion made clear that these records are redundant of the evidence at Maxwell’s public trial, the victims’ responses to the motion to unseal might well have been different,” the judge wrote.

    (e) The DOJ did not communicate with victims before moving Ghislaine Maxwell to a lower-security prison.

    Victims’ attorneys Edwards and Cassel told Judge Engelmeyer:

    “Maxwell’s recent move to a lower-security prison has further eroded the victims’ confidence that their safety and dignity are priorities. The transfer was made without prior notice to the victims, without opportunity to object, and without explanation-actions they see as extraordinarily insensitive and suggestive of ulterior purposes.”

    (f) The government has provided no explanation for transferring Maxwell to a minimum-security federal prison camp in Bryan, Texas. A letter by House Judiciary Committee Democrats demanded information from DOJ and the Bureau of Prisons relating to the transfer and Deputy AG Blanche’s interview with Maxwell, stating: “These actions raise substantial concerns that the Administration may now be attempting to tamper with a crucial witness, conceal President Trump’s relationship with convicted sex offenders, and coax Ms. Maxwell into providing false or misleading testimony in order to protect the President. The transfer also appears to violate both DOJ and Bureau of Prisons (BOP) policies.” The letter further noted that the lower security facility, with “greater freedom for inmates,” was, “prior to this extraordinary transfer, categorically off-limits to sex offenders.” The letter also stated, “Even if a waiver were to be granted, standard BOP policy would allow for a waiver only after multiple levels of review that would ordinarily take months to complete. Even if approved for a redesignation, which typically requires new facts or evidence, an inmate would then have to join a months-long waitlist for an opening at a camp.”

    (g) The President has made publicly statements that raise concerns he would pardon or commute Maxwell. As attorneys Edwards and Cassel told a federal court, “The risk of a pardon or commutation exacerbates safety concerns in derogation of§ 3771(a)(l), and threatens severe psychological harm, including triggering trauma responses.”

    21. Congressional handling of the Epstein file and Maxwell imprisonment in 2025

    (a) In July, Speaker of the House Mike Johnson (R-LA) took the rare step of recessing the House early for the summer, in order to avoid holding votes related to releasing the Epstein files. Speaker Johnson said he wanted to give the Trump Administration “space” to disclose information related to Epstein on its own, without Congressional action; to date, the White House (and DOJ) has revealed no new information since the House recessed. The discharge petition, which would force a House vote on whether DOJ must release information contained in the Epstein files, is “set to trigger a vote within days of the House’s return in September.”

    (b) Speaker Johnson criticized the bipartisan discharge petition. Speaker Johnson called it “reckless” and said: “I agree with President Trump, with the Department of Justice, with the FBI that you need all credible evidence and information out there,” Johnson said. “That word ‘credible’ is important. And why? Because you have to protect innocent people’s names and reputations whose names might be, as you noted at the outset of the program, intertwined into all these files.”

    (c) On August 11, the House Oversight Committee issued eleven subpoenas related to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. The Committee, chaired by Rep. James Comer (R-KY), issued deposition subpoenas for former Attorneys General and FBI Directors; and a document subpoena to DOJ for information related to Epstein. The first subpoena is due Monday, August 18. However, it failed to subpoena some of the most relevant and important individuals involved in the federal investigation of Epstein and Maxwell, including: Alex Acosta, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida during the office’s Epstein investigation between 2006-07;Marie Villafaña, the lead prosecutor in the SDFL office handling the Epstein investigation; Geoffrey Berman, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York when Epstein was indicted in 2019; and Audrey Strauss, the deputy U.S. Attorney in SDNY under Berman and Acting U.S. Attorney when Ghislaine Maxwell was charged.

    (d) On July 29, Senate Democrats sent a letter to Attorney General Bondi demanding “the full and complete Epstein files” no later than August 15, pursuant to 5 U.S.C §2954, which requires “[a]n executive agency, on request of … any five members” of the Committee on Governmental Affairs of the Senate, to “submit any information requested of it relating to any matter within the jurisdiction of the committee.” DOJ ignored this request, and on August 15, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) accused the Trump Administration of “breaking the law” and threatened to sue.

    There are lots and lots of moving parts there, lots and lots of apparent stonewalling by Donold’s DOJ, and lots and lots of MAGAts who are just fine with it…

    Personally, I expect that even when they get 218 votes for the release of the files, there will still be “redactions” that have nothing to do with protecting the victims. This won’t be over soon no matter what happens when the House is finally back in session.

    Grr…

    FWIW.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

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    David_C

    October 11, 2025 at 2:14 pm

    @Soprano2:

    5. I’m finally good at something! 😉

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    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 2:18 pm

    @Karen Gail:

    It’s been a few decades since I’ve been in the USN, so much may have changed and I’d bet that some has, seeing as how medicine has learned just a tad in the last half a century. Medicines have evolved, grown, gotten far better in the last 50-60 years. But military concepts – have they really changed? What any branch of our military does hasn’t likely changed all that much, even as the tools and process likely have. I’ve been using the VA for the last 3-4 decades and it has changed, just as much of life has changed. Not big changes but smaller ones, which sometimes over all, change a lot. We, humanity have learned a fair bit over the last half a century. Now some humans have learned doodly squat. Because that may be as much as they can learn, or because they were hiding their heads in a dark, smelly place. Such as some of humanity has always done, since day one. But there are more of us and we have ways of seeing a lot more of the world and how it operates – or doesn’t. I’m not sure if it’s better, worse or pretty much the same but I believe #3 is the more likely. Or at least the most often. Much has changed in the last 30-50 years. How many have a land line phone? I haven’t for over 25 years. Why would you?

  207. 207.

    New Deal democrat

    October 11, 2025 at 2:19 pm

    For those who are interested, here is a link to a Reddit thread asking people about any memorable direct contact they or a family member has had with ICE:

    reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1nxmase/serious_people_who_have_had_a_direct_runin_with/

    Some very strange and/or depressing stories. The “wildest” although I guess unsurprising one’s are the Native Americans who are getting detained because they “look” like immigrants, and their tribal ID isn’t believed.

  208. 208.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 2:29 pm

    @Ruckus: Okay, I have to admit to having land line; I make like one or two calls in a month. And it is the same line as my internet so it makes sense for me; but I can see your point. Change happens; as for changes in military. There are been a couple of specials on the changes in the Navy that were made public when Arnold Schwarzenegger did his documentaries on changes Navy was making in regard to climate change since Naval bases are the most vulnerable to rising seas. What I do remember from orange ones first time in office he thought the Navy should go back to technology that hadn’t been used in decades. But then this is person who is doing best to turn back calendar, only surprise is that he hasn’t started suggesting sailing ships.

    I don’t know how other branches are changing but we do know that soldiers sitting in US can pilot drones in other parts of the world.

  209. 209.

    tam1MI

    October 11, 2025 at 2:35 pm

    @Baud: Janet Mills decided to run for Senate in Maine.

    Dammit.  Maine already had some perfectly good candidates for the seat, now they are just going to rip themselves apart in the primary and we’ll be stuck with Furrowed Brow for 6 more years.

  210. 210.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 2:37 pm

    @TONYG:

    States like Kansas don’t have enough people living in them to support things like California does. Like many things the size of the cost side is paid for by the production side. High population states have a higher paying size. Now that doesn’t mean the population of Kansas hasn’t grown, it likely has to some degree but not the degree of say CA or NY. But unless you are a farmer you likely go where there are jobs and places like CA and NYC have jobs. I was an employer for a number of decades after dad retired. Not a large number of employees but still, I signed paychecks for a number of years.

  211. 211.

    Jackie

    October 11, 2025 at 2:47 pm

    @Geminid:

    I expect the vast majority of Graham Platner’s supporters to sit out the election because they don’t live in Maine.

    That genuinely made me LOL! You’re undoubtedly right!

  212. 212.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 3:15 pm

    @Karen Gail:

    It’s difficult to see clearly with one’s head firmly planted in their exit port. A concept that more than a few humans seem to delight in. Of course it makes seeing the outside world or the rest of humanity in any kind of rational reality a tad difficult. I believe that even if this is more of a social statement than actual truth of eyes, ears, brain placement, it does have an element of truth to it. We used to call it being full of shit, but that seemed to some not to be a very polite phrase. And of course it isn’t and never was intended to be one.

    Humanity is a very large group and there will be significant changes/differences in any large group of humans. Now from a viewpoint of far enough away the significance level may seem smaller, but from an individual view – wow might be the appropriate word for many differences. And look at history and see the changes in the last say 100 years. How many have a land line phone? And why? Our world has changed a lot, even in the lifetimes of many still breathing, let alone a generation or 2 ago. My father was brought from his birthplace, Kansas City, to Los Angeles in a horse drawn wagon at one year old in 1918. Over dirt roads that are now interstates. His father was a factory trained Packard mechanic. Packard closed in 1956. My grandfathers and grandmothers were all born in the 1800s. Hell I was born in the first half of the last century. Barely in the first half but still. The world has changed very, very significantly in that time frame. If you look at the early world of my grandparents it doesn’t even seem like the same planet. If you look at the early world of my parents, the world has changed significantly. And it’s also done so in my lifetime. I remember my mom’s car, the first one I knew about, a 1946 Packard sedan. And Packard has been out of business for 69 years. And wasn’t much for a few years before that. There are so many things that have changed significantly since it’s likely easier to name the things that haven’t. But I can’t think of any.

  213. 213.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    October 11, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    @jowriter:

    The current state auditor, meaning a Dem that’s won a statewide seat, is running against the otherwise odious Golden.

  214. 214.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 4:00 pm

    @Ruckus: I am probably a couple of years younger than you, but I am also old enough to remember and have lived when things were so totally different.

    I had blind spots about race since Dad was USN and was born restless (cue Lee Marvin’s song about “Wandering Star” from “Paint Your Wagon.”) We lived in California and Wisconsin; neighbors in California were all new to San Jose and from all over the world. It wasn’t until my 30’s that I even began to realize just how bigoted people were in Wisconsin; sadly, I think it has gotten worse.

    This is what scares me about the GOP; they want to take us back to days when slavery was accepted and women had no rights. They don’t want to make progress they want to return to an age when rich white men were called “robber barons” and it was considered a compliment.

    There are times when I read the news and hear about what is happening in the world and wonder why we forget that we all live on one planet. Carl Sagan gave lectures and reminded us with the “Blue Marble” picture of how we are all here together. People not only forget that but in the race of greed they have forgotten that physical resources are limited; when I started reading and talking with University Professor his field of expertise wasn’t considered as worthy of a department. He studied things like healthy soil, how to heal the land and what farmers were doing in the name of greed. After his death University of Wisconsin at Madison took a long look at his work and there is now a department and course of study that uses many of his books as foundation. I find it concerning that more people are still blissfully ignorant of just how our food gets to the grocery store and just how depleted the soil has become.

  215. 215.

    Marc

    October 11, 2025 at 4:01 pm

    @Karen Gail:  I had one help me deal with my cancer; I didn’t want chemo and read about what is done in Europe.

    That is something I never thought about.  I was diagnosed with the same time of cancer that my mother and grandmother (at least) had. They both had surgery followed by blasting the area with radiation, collateral damage from the latter eventually killed them both.  Surgery followed by chemo seemed a better alternative and I had to look around to find someone willing to do just that. Eventually, genetic testing determined that even the chemo was likely unnecessary, surgery alone was sufficient for others having the same markers.
    Now, NCIS/NIH cancer research is getting blown up just as the need for surgery was getting questionable.  A niece has apparently been cured, without surgery, by direct injection of an mRNA vaccine into a tumor.  Now, research will have to be done elsewhere in the world to determine if this works for everyone with this common form of cancer, or only those with our peculiar genetic makeup.​

  216. 216.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 4:09 pm

    @Marc: What never made sense to me was poisoning a body to kill cancer and the number of deaths that could be attributed to chemo. When you have surgery it takes time for even a healthy body to recover; so when my thyroid was removed I asked what was showing up on scans as “hot” and I signed paperwork only giving permission to take what was hot. (Learned lesson hard way when found out I had a total hysterectomy when only one ovary was involved.)

    Did the same thing when thyroid cancer showed up in two lymph nodes years later, told surgeon just those two nodes and nothing else. But most surgeons won’t tell you have that right to make those choices; after surgery one tried to talk me into stripping area around those nodes while was still drugged.

    After all just how many people know that the chemotherapy pushed by drug companies is the result of poison gas experiments by Nazi doctors.

  217. 217.

    Marc

    October 11, 2025 at 5:02 pm

    @Another Scott:  One can argue that new processes and technologies are always like this, and that can be true. Still…

    Two things can be true at the same time.  In this case, the first truth is that machine learning in general and large language models, in particular, are just another sophisticated programming tool.  They can assist people in being more productive at recognizing and generating prose, code, imagery, etc., but this only works in the hands of those skilled enough to guide the process.  No executive minion is ever really going to be able to write a few prompts and effectively replace hundreds or thousands of people. It just doesn’t work that way, as those who have tried are quickly finding out.

    The second truth is that the people you are hearing from are those who are over-leveraged in the perpetual belief that just order of magnitude of compute power is all they need to reach AI “break even” point.  Which means making enough money from subscribers to pay for the actual data centers and model training required to support them.  At this point, they are still spending 10X what they’re getting back from the actual market.  They need to keep this going perpetually, or the whole economy will collapse along with it.  I’m betting they will fail, within months, not years.

    Think of it this way, Oracle is “investing” in OpenAI by providing services, which OpenAI “pays” for by giving Oracle stock.  OpenAI then uses that increased valuation to “buy” from AMD a future promise of delivering chips (which may or may not happen), paid for with more stock, and so forth.  Google, Microsoft, Meta, Apple, Amazon, are also involved in this investment cabal.  No actual money changes hands, the increased valuations and holdings primarily provide collateral for borrowing and facilitating generation of “revenue”.  It all exists as “real” money propping up the stock market and our mutual funds, right up until the moment some critical loan gets called.

  218. 218.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 5:09 pm

    @Karen Gail:

    This is what scares me about the GOP; they want to take us back to days when slavery was accepted and women had no rights. They don’t want to make progress they want to return to an age when rich white men were called “robber barons” and it was considered a compliment.

    They think they want that. They really, really do not. That world would make most of them poor. And in a world of the number of people standing on this planet now versus a century or more ago that would never fly. Also remember that most people struggled with physical work. I started working in a machine shop over 60 years ago as a rather young teen. This world has changed a hell of a lot and so has this country. And unless one learns how to turn the world around so that time can go backwards it isn’t going to ever happen. Now that doesn’t mean that some don’t think it would be better if whatever happened. BUT. And it’s a big, round, not at all that pretty BUT, that’s not how it works. They expect the world as they see it, their kind in charge. However, other than asshole thinking that one skin color – or lack thereof makes one better, none of the world was better back then (whenever then was) is pure unadulterated bullshit. There will always be, or at least in one long lifetime this is still true, people that think something makes them superior. For many it’s money. But I worked in professional sports and there was always someone that thought they were superior and they had no proof – other than negative proof. I once had some dipshit come up to me at a professional sport event that I had a lot of power over, that I’d never seen or met, and he said nothing that wasn’t pure shit to and about me. I never saw him at an event ever again, because I talked to his boss, very nicely. His boss knew me and had for a fair number of years. My point is that some people have a concept of themselves that is about 500% away from any reality whatsoever. Most of us don’t normally interact with that many humans to find the one that stinks that far beyond any rational level. Now I did but it is rare. Rare enough that I still remember it over 2-3 decades later. My point is that old saying, it takes all kinds. It really doesn’t but that doesn’t stop all kinds from showing us who/what they are. So the saying should be – We have all kinds. We don’t need a small percentage of them. But we will never be rid of them – it’s humanity. In all its levels of every measure – in all it’s good/bad/indifferent.

  219. 219.

    Marc

    October 11, 2025 at 5:13 pm

    @Karen Gail: I hear you, but when you’ve got a whole cadre of allegedly well educated confident people telling you things, some of which may not be “true” (whatever that means), just what should one like myself choose as the specific red flag to question everything?  Actual cancer research was lacking 70 years ago when they started messing with these “cures”, there are still doctors floating around advising treatments that have long been debunked.​

  220. 220.

    Karen Gail

    October 11, 2025 at 6:05 pm

    @Marc: I hear you, my sister in law had ovarian cancer; a friend talked her into going to Mexico and doing targeted treatment. Trouble was how expensive it was, but it did give her seven more years and she lived to see both daughters not only graduate high school but also college. The stress of her marriage retriggered her cancer and the only treatment she could afford was chem. After she went on chemo she lasted months; in pain from the cancer and the drugs.

    Every person I’ve known and talked to who went with chemo or radiation talked about just how bad the pain was; personally, I would rather not prolong my life by living in pain.

  221. 221.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 6:18 pm

    @Marc:

    There will always be humans that think they know more than anyone else. And it’s possible that in some small way they might know more than most. But this world has significantly changed in the lifetimes of many still breathing. I was born in the first half of the last century and so much is different since I started walking and talking that it is almost impossible for someone decades younger to have any of the concepts of what life was like then. Life is still life but how it’s lived has increased in possibilities far more than anyone could have had any idea of back then. Sure it’s still life, it still has a start, a middle and an end. But that start and that middle can be a hell of a lot different that it could be back when I started. And it wasn’t the same for everyone – a statement that could still apply today. How you were raised, how and what was taught in schools, how we live, where to live, communications, what we are doing here, what tv looked like then and now, and on and on. And on. What will it look like in another 100 years? Will it be so crowded that it’s almost impossible to move? Will we still have cars? Can we still have cars? What will entertainment look like/be? Will the internet still exist? Will families with 3 to 5 or more kids exist or be rare? Will we live in barracks rather than homes? Etc, etc.

  222. 222.

    Ruckus

    October 11, 2025 at 7:13 pm

    @Karen Gail:

    Living in pain really does not seem all that much like living. But then often in the concept of actual pain, most adults can live with what I’d call a significant amount of pain. But it can get old some days, having rather constant pain. But pain, unless it’s pain well over what the docs mean when they say tell me your pain level on one to ten. I once told a doc when asked that – 20. He looked at me like I was nuts. I told him I get migraines, I’ve had them well over level 10, as in I’d scream but that makes it worse. He looked at me for a couple of minutes to see if I was screwing with him. He figured out I wasn’t. I have well over 100,000 miles on motorcycles. I was once hit by a coyote that ran onto the road, hit my front wheel and forced me into the front of an oncoming pickup truck. That sounds like a lot of fun – and pain – doesn’t it? And yet no actual injuries and I rode away. I’ve had migraine pains that made that feel like a sitting at the dinner table enjoying my meal. Fortunately I very, very rarely have them any more and never at that level. And there is now a pill that works well and rapidly. I’ve been told that giving birth is no walk in the park but women do this over and over because the outcome is great.

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    H.E.Wolf

    October 11, 2025 at 7:23 pm

    @Geminid: ​
    Thank’ee kindly, pardner! Sounds like a good read to while away the hours when I’m home on the range. I’ll post on over to the library and pick it up if they have it.​

    ETA: In my saddlebags already! Ebooks are right handy.

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    H.E.Wolf

    October 11, 2025 at 7:26 pm

    @RevRick: ​Gradually, then suddenly. Ah, Seneca’s cliff!

     Thank you! I just learned a new thing. Always a pleasure.

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    Kayla Rudbek

    October 11, 2025 at 7:31 pm

    @Karen Gail: it goes back a bit further than that; Fr. Julius Nieuwland’s research was used by other people to develop chemical warfare in WW1 (Fr. Nieuwland to his credit was NOT interested in pursuing that, and went back to Notre Dame and invented synthetic rubber instead)

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    Gloria DryGarden

    October 12, 2025 at 2:16 am

    @JPL: I don’t know where you are, but chattooga county has a protest, and so does Rome. In those parts the Democratic Party has no formal address, probably for safety. I’ve followed the relevant counties’  Democratic parties on their Facebook pages.

    neither of these two counties had their protests on the no kings national lists. You might look up your counties organization..

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    Matt McIrvin

    October 12, 2025 at 4:22 am

    @Jeffro: I think they’re just going to refuse to seat Grijalva, period, and also refuse to seat any new Democrats elected in 2026. Congress did this sort of thing now and then until the Supreme Court ruled that the situations under which it could happen were starkly limited, and this is a ruling they could try to get overturned so that they can simply refuse to seat any new Democrats.

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