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You are here: Home / Politics / They Are For the Oligarchs, We Are For the People

They Are For the Oligarchs, We Are For the People

by WaterGirl|  December 5, 20252:40 pm| 169 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics

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That was the headline from one of the Simon Rosenberg posts this week.

Does it fit on a bumper sticker?  I think so.

What would you suggest as the catchphrase going forward into the Nov 2026 elections?

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  1. 1.

    RepubAnon

    December 5, 2025 at 2:50 pm

    I’d propose “Billions for Billionaires, nothing for the rest of us”

  2. 2.

    Barney

    December 5, 2025 at 2:51 pm

    The problem with “oligarchs” is that it isn’t exactly an everyday word.

     

    “Tycoons”, perhaps?

  3. 3.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 5, 2025 at 2:53 pm

    In a similar vein to RepubAnon:

    “Tax Cuts for Billionaires, Price Gouging for Us. Thanks GOP!”

  4. 4.

    p.a.

    December 5, 2025 at 2:57 pm

    “<D’s name> for Congress.  No time for a YesMan/Woman”  or Doormat, Cipher, RubberStamp.  AssKisser might offend some, but would those offended vote D at all?

    Spineless Gutless tRumpcuck too long for a bumper sticker.

  5. 5.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 2:57 pm

    “Eisenhower was the last good Republican.  Fuck ’em since.”

  6. 6.

    Redshift

    December 5, 2025 at 2:57 pm

    This is one instance where I completely agree with Bernie Sanders: billionaires is the right word to use. At least for general audience use like a bumper sticker; if you know your audience will respond to oligarch, techbro, or whatever, go with what works.

  7. 7.

    Tony Jay

    December 5, 2025 at 2:57 pm

    Election 2024 – We Lost Our Marbles

    Election 2026 – For All The Marbles

  8. 8.

    Regnad Kcin

    December 5, 2025 at 2:59 pm

    Every billionaire is a policy failure.

  9. 9.

    Bulgakov

    December 5, 2025 at 2:59 pm

    Tax em, or baste em, but get rid of the Billionaire class.

  10. 10.

    JoyceH

    December 5, 2025 at 3:02 pm

    @Barney: actually I think these days oligarch is a pretty standard word. I suspect most people understand what it means.

    As for bumper stickers, a few cycles ago, Republican Jim Gilmore won his race for Virginia governor (and turned out to be a piss-poor governor but that’s another story) with the almost idiotically simple slogan “No car tax”. Three words, eight characters and two spaces.  Fits beautifully on a bumper sticker. (Oh, and does VA still have a car tax? Why yes, yes we do.).

    A few more characters, but the same simplicity – TAX THE RICH.

  11. 11.

    Hildebrand

    December 5, 2025 at 3:02 pm

    “Time to turn over tables.”

    Remember, Jesus was actually most explicit about the biggest problem being the love of money.

  12. 12.

    kindness

    December 5, 2025 at 3:03 pm

    With all due respect, I believe there are many potential ‘independent’ voters who don’t know what the word ‘Oligarch’ means.  I bet they all know what ‘Billionaire’ means.  Those bumper stickers do us no good if it’s only an inside thing with us.  Go with the grade level you are trying to reach.

  13. 13.

    Scout211

    December 5, 2025 at 3:04 pm

    We fight for everyone, they fight for billionaires.

    Or

    [insert D candidate] fights for everyone, [insert R candidate] fights for billionaires.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    December 5, 2025 at 3:05 pm

    @RepubAnon:

    Isn’t that the opposite of our message?

  15. 15.

    Belafon

    December 5, 2025 at 3:05 pm

    @JoyceH:

    TAX THE RICH

     
    But every American is rich, some are just temporarily embarrassed. That’s why so many believe you’re coming for their wages.

  16. 16.

    Scout211

    December 5, 2025 at 3:07 pm

    @JoyceH:actually I think these days oligarch is a pretty standard word. I suspect most people understand what it means.

    Since my life is among mostly normies, I don’t agree that most people understand what it means.

  17. 17.

    AMagicianNamedGob

    December 5, 2025 at 3:08 pm

    @Barney: How about elites?  That seems to trigger the right folks on that side of the aisle.

  18. 18.

    Other MJS

    December 5, 2025 at 3:10 pm

    “Elites”? That’s pretty toxic these days. “Privileged”? “The Connected”?

  19. 19.

    Belafon

    December 5, 2025 at 3:10 pm

    @Hildebrand:

    Here’s a really good link, from a Jew, describing why Jesus was actually flipping tables. It wasn’t about the money, it was about people being all worshippy and godly one day a week and ignoring all of the teaching the other six. In other words, still an indictment of most of the Right.

    binarybreakingworship.com/2022/03/29/antisemitic-readings-of-temple-cleansing/

  20. 20.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 3:11 pm

    @AMagicianNamedGob: Love your nym!

  21. 21.

    Baud

    December 5, 2025 at 3:11 pm

    @Other MJS:

    It is. That’s why it’s falsely used against us!

  22. 22.

    coin operated

    December 5, 2025 at 3:13 pm

    “You are paying for billionaire tax breaks” for a bumper sticker.
    “Tax the Rich” as a slogan.

    The slogan has to be SIMPLE. Notice that most of Trumps slogans are no longer than 3 syllables.

  23. 23.

    JoyceH

    December 5, 2025 at 3:17 pm

    @AMagicianNamedGob: Nope, do NOT use the term “elites”. Because there are two wildly different definitions of elites. When Democrats say elites, they do mean the billionaires and multimillionaires. The people who get all the handouts and get away with pedophilia because of their status. When Republicans talk about elites, they mean doctors and scientists and professors, the genuine experts who know their subject matter and make the MAGAs feel stupid. This is how Trump can hang out with billionaires and rob us blind while his supporters still cheer that he’s going after the elites.

  24. 24.

    AJ of the Mustard Search and Rescue Team

    December 5, 2025 at 3:19 pm

    It has to be short. 

    A meaningful, maybe determinative, chunk of voters only decides at the last minute based on vibes.

    “People over billionaires”

  25. 25.

    Gretchen

    December 5, 2025 at 3:20 pm

    @RepubAnon: Yes, billionaires is better than oligarchs. I don’t think the low information voters know what oligarchs are, and I don’t think most of us really grasp how much more money a billion dollars is that a million. We can imagine having a million dollars, but it’s hard to grasp that a billion is 1000 million.

  26. 26.

    Hildebrand

    December 5, 2025 at 3:21 pm

    @Belafon: Yep – was thinking of putting in a parenthetical about the flipping tables business being about hypocrisy, as well as economic injustice, but went for the pithy phrase without doing my due diligence of unpacking the issues when Jesus did his bit.

  27. 27.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 3:21 pm

    @coin operated:

    “You are paying for billionaire tax breaks”

    That makes it personal, I like it!

    @JoyceH:

    Nope, do NOT use the term “elites”.

    You make an excellent case.

  28. 28.

    different-church-lady

    December 5, 2025 at 3:22 pm

    It looks like our version of tearing down Stalinist statues is going to be ripping Trump’s name off buildings.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    December 5, 2025 at 3:23 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    We’ll also be tearing down some buildings.

  30. 30.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 3:23 pm

    @Gretchen: Pretty sure my non-political (but still votes R) sister would think an oligarch is a russia-only thing.

  31. 31.

    p.a

    December 5, 2025 at 3:23 pm

    Remember the satirical group “Billionaires for Bush?”

    Funny yes.  Effective🤷‍♂️

    Should the bumper sticker aim be for the LCD citizen voter?  As opposed to any kind of overarching  pr theme.

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 3:24 pm

    @p.a: LCD?

  33. 33.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    December 5, 2025 at 3:25 pm

    I liked Behn’s slogan:

    “Feed kids, fix roads and fund hospitals”.

    I usta think “Every billionaire is a policy failure” was a good one but first we’d hafta get a fair chunk of the party onboard with that…fat chance.  And it doesn’t really say anything to most normies out there.

  34. 34.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 5, 2025 at 3:25 pm

    @AJ of the Mustard Search and Rescue Team:

    “People over billionaires”

    I like that one. Replacing “billionaires” with “corporations”, could work too

  35. 35.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 5, 2025 at 3:26 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    I admit it wasn’t an encouraging sign that Larry Summers was the guy the CAP tapped to help write their Project 2029

  36. 36.

    Gretchen

    December 5, 2025 at 3:27 pm

    @JoyceH: Yes, that’s something that’s driving me crazy about this vaccine debate. They sneer at Dr. Fauci having gotten some things wrong in February 2020 and that proves that no doctor knows anything.

    One talking point is that Scandinavian countries don’t do universal infant HepB vaccines, they test moms and do risk assessment. Why don’t we just do that here? Huh? Huh? When an expert was asked this question, he pointed out that Denmark has universal healthcare and extensive health records on every citizen going back their entire life, and confidence that they will see the baby again.

    Someone on Chris Hayes last night pointed out that 1/3 of all counties in the US don’t have and OB/GYN. Not one! And in Georgia, half – HALF – of all counties have no OB/GYN. And of course some states are fighting the requirement to continue Medicaid after birth. So why don’t we just rely on prenatal testing and well-baby visits like Denmark does?

  37. 37.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 5, 2025 at 3:27 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Lowest common denominator is my guess?

  38. 38.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    December 5, 2025 at 3:28 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Not encouraging but entirely too predictable.

    I’m assuming they’ll now find a like-minded hack to formulate the policies he woulda pushed.

  39. 39.

    WTFGhost

    December 5, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    Bumper sticker:
    WE THE BILLIONAIRES PEOPLE.

    ETA: You can say “oligarchs,” but I think “billionaires” aims the right pitchforks at the right sorts of people.

  40. 40.

    Ben Cisco

    December 5, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    @WaterGirl: I’m going to guess Lowest Common Denominator

    ETS: Goku beat me to it.

  41. 41.

    Raven

    December 5, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Nope, “Pete McCloskey voluntarily served in the U.S. Navy from 1945 to 1947, the U.S. Marineerve from 1960 to 1967. He retired from the Marine Corps Reserve in 1974, having attained the rank of colonel. He was awarded the Navy Cross and Silver Star decorations for heroism in combat and two Purple Hearts as a Marine during the Korean War.[2] He then volunteered for the Vietnam War before eventually turning against it.[2] In 1992, he wrote his fourth book, The Taking of Hill 610, describing some of his exploits in Korea.

    He was a Republican who eventually switched sides.

  42. 42.

    Regnad Kcin

    December 5, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): The reason that “billionaires” is so powerful is that no one has any emotional connection to them. We all think we might maybe someday become a “millionaire.” Many of us rely on “corporations” to keep our mortgages paid and the lights on. “Elites” is just an elitist word.

  43. 43.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 3:29 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):  That makes sense.

    I do think it needs to speak to everyone, not just the politically connected and politically aware.

  44. 44.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 3:30 pm

    @Regnad Kcin:

    The reason that “billionaires” is so powerful is that no one has any emotional connection to them.

    That’s smart, too.

  45. 45.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    December 5, 2025 at 3:33 pm

    @Gretchen:

    Related to that, I saw something yesterday that said prior to Sep 2023 (the Hamas attack), infant (maternal) mortality rates (or something else pertaining to prenatal health) death rates were higher in Indiana than in Gaza.

    Then I learned that such rates have always been awful in Indiana.

  46. 46.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 3:33 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    It looks like our version of tearing down Stalinist statues is going to be ripping Trump’s name off buildings.

    And ripping down that shitbag tower here in Chicago.

    ETA – I see our resident no pants agrees.

  47. 47.

    trollhattan

    December 5, 2025 at 3:34 pm

    @Ben Cisco: ​
    Is Trump the lowest common dominator?

  48. 48.

    craigie

    December 5, 2025 at 3:34 pm

    @Barney: I was going to say the same thing, except use the word “Billionaires” which I am pretty sure everyone knows.

  49. 49.

    trollhattan

    December 5, 2025 at 3:38 pm

    I remain unconvinced there’s One Weird Trick/Slogan for reaching voters’ psyches.

    Weirdos was great and see where that got us.

  50. 50.

    JoyceH

    December 5, 2025 at 3:38 pm

    @WaterGirl: Not to mention that billionaires have been displaying such nasty or clueless behavior lately. Bill Gates described Elon Musk as “the world’s richest man killing the world’s poorest children.”  And even the billionaires who aren’t prancing around with chainsaws are all involved in spaceships and immortality and ignoring things like poverty and disease.

  51. 51.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 3:38 pm

    @Raven: I was just referring to presidents.

  52. 52.

    KSinMA

    December 5, 2025 at 3:38 pm

    My favorite advice for slogans is from Walter Matthau’s character in The Sunshine Boys: “Words with a K in it are funny”–hence, catchy and memorable. If you can’t find a K word, a B word like “billionaire” is pretty good, certainly better than a weak word like “oligarch.”

    youtube.com/watch?v=fO6if5s0zmk

  53. 53.

    p.a.

    December 5, 2025 at 3:39 pm

    Yes, lowest common…

     

    “A Country/Government For Sale?  Not On Our Watch.  Vote Democrat.”

  54. 54.

    frosty

    December 5, 2025 at 3:44 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: ​
     I liked Peltola’s “Fish, Family, Freedom”. Not exactly relevant to the Lower 48 though.

  55. 55.

    Trivia Man

    December 5, 2025 at 3:48 pm

    “The next tax cut won’t help me either” makes a good sticker IMHO

  56. 56.

    Belafon

    December 5, 2025 at 3:49 pm

    @trollhattan: One weird trick won’t save us, but the more tricks the better.

  57. 57.

    Socolofi

    December 5, 2025 at 3:49 pm

    While fun for this crowd, any slogan that’s basically “hurt people <x>” never works. People respond to slogans that are about what they’ll get. Variations on tax the rich… ok, great, they pay more, but what do the rest of us get?

    Where people, esp the ones that used to vote D and voted R, are screaming is still super obvious:

    Affordibility and Jobs

    So you do slogans like:

    More Jobs. Less Taxes.

    Healthcare. Housing. Hiring.

    Stuff like that.

  58. 58.

    Trivia Man

    December 5, 2025 at 3:50 pm

    @KSinMA: just hit the last sound as a hard K! Oli-garK!

  59. 59.

    Belafon

    December 5, 2025 at 3:52 pm

    @Socolofi: Jail for the cronies, Jobs for the rest of us.

  60. 60.

    patrick II

    December 5, 2025 at 3:52 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    TAX CUS FOR BILLIONAIRES, INFLATION FOR U

    vote Democrat ’26

  61. 61.

    AM in NC

    December 5, 2025 at 3:53 pm

    @WTFGhost:  Really like that one.  It presses the patriotism button while emphasizing the economic inequality problem.

  62. 62.

    Shalimar

    December 5, 2025 at 3:54 pm

    GOP=Party for the Rich

    YOU AREN’T RICH

  63. 63.

    raven

    December 5, 2025 at 3:55 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: There ya go!

  64. 64.

    HopefullynotCassandra

    December 5, 2025 at 3:55 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: worse than Texas?

  65. 65.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    December 5, 2025 at 4:01 pm

    @HopefullynotCassandra:

    Apparently yes:

    commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2025/jul/maternal-mortality-united-states-2025

    Exhibit 4 (pregnancy-related mortality ratios):

    IN: 39.9

    TX: 38.1

    In that godforsaken, commie hellhole of CA:

    17.6

    Now that provides a stark difference in the red/blue state debate.

  66. 66.

    frosty

    December 5, 2025 at 4:04 pm

    @Socolofi: ​Healthcare. Housing. Hiring.

    I like it. Three words, simple and alliterative. It has the ring of Peltola’s slogan!​

  67. 67.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    December 5, 2025 at 4:08 pm

    GOP 2026:

    Come for the corruption,

    stay for the pedophilia!

  68. 68.

    WTFGhost

    December 5, 2025 at 4:10 pm

    @WaterGirl: I, who reject most tone arguments, must also grant that I feel “oligarchs” plays to the “elitist” stereotype.

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: Yeah, one problem with a billionaire being a policy failure is, to me, I envision a bigger change than democratic socialism, where every person who sets foot in America is entitled to free medical care, any child will get twelve years of education, people can survive by living on the dole, though it means sacrifices to keep costs low.

    I think you could have that, and even expand the dole a bit, before you’d make as big a change as you’d need to eliminate billionaires as a matter of policy. That means, to me, it sounds kinda dumb, I’m sorry to say. The reason it sounds dumb, is, you know a Taylor Swift can swing a billion dollars in ticket sales in a year, and it seems ridiculous that everything over a billion gets hoovered up.

    I’m okay with a wealth tax; that’s easy to manage, and it’s akin to a (physical) property tax. But to me, saying that a billionaire is a failure feels like you’re saying you don’t understand the scale of the US and world economy. If you’re using that just to talk to other progressives, well, fine, but I’d say “Too much concentrated wealth is a policy failure” if only to account for inflation.

    Of course, my fellow progressives don’t listen to me, but that’s only because of my speech impediment causing me not to say anything (grimace/shrug) (yes, I learned from the actual McDonald’s Grimace, who, for someone who looked like a large purple sex toy, rarely had a negative expression on its face).

  69. 69.

    Jackie

    December 5, 2025 at 4:12 pm

    @frosty:

    I liked Peltola’s “Fish, Family, Freedom”. Not exactly relevant to the Lower 48 though.

    Eggs, Family, Freedom  ;-)

  70. 70.

    columbusqueen

    December 5, 2025 at 4:14 pm

    OT news. At this moment, I only need a boot for the ankle, not surgery. Still frustrated as hell about everything,  but at least Mike is no longer threatening to toss Archie out.

  71. 71.

    WTFGhost

    December 5, 2025 at 4:16 pm

    @Snarki, child of Loki: I don’t think they’ll actually promise pedophilia, but, if they get desperate enough, who knows? Harken back to the old Bloom County, “If you don’t vote for us, we’ll come to your house at (address) and shoot your husband Lamar!” before handing the phone back.
    Opus explains one should take that in the spirit of all campaign promises, while (Milo, I think) storms off, “I’M THROUGH SCREWING AROUND!”

    So… maybe? Maybe there’s video of Trump, which they promise to release, but only if Democrats don’t win either house of Congress? I mean, I wouldn’t put it past them, but that is pretty effing brazen.

    @Socolofi: I wanted to upvote “Healthcare. Housing. Hiring.”

  72. 72.

    prostratedragon

    December 5, 2025 at 4:17 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Putting this comment against @JoyceH immediately following says to me that they’ve given a big opening here. Might not work with every segment, but it will resonate to many with what they now have actually seen.

  73. 73.

    Belafon

    December 5, 2025 at 4:17 pm

    @Snarki, child of Loki: Hopefully we can come up with something that Republican voters will also view as a negative.

  74. 74.

    cckids

    December 5, 2025 at 4:19 pm

    I’ve been having excellent responses to a phrase I got (I believe ?) at Digby’s place:

    YOUR LIFE SHOULDN’T BE THIS HARD

    It pretty much fits us all, even the temporarily embarrassed millionaires among us.

  75. 75.

    patrick II

    December 5, 2025 at 4:19 pm

    WHO NEEDS HEALTHCARE ANYWAY?

    vote republican

    HELP SUPPORT WARCRIMES!

    vote Republican

  76. 76.

    beef

    December 5, 2025 at 4:19 pm

    My only complaint about ‘billionaire’ vs ‘oligarch’ is that it’s more generic.  I don’t particularly begrudge Warren Buffet his billions.  The billionaires I have a problem with are a specific group of mob-tinged oligarchs.  But that’s a level of precision that maybe doesn’t belong in this discussion.

  77. 77.

    Bobby Thomson

    December 5, 2025 at 4:21 pm

    Paychecks, Not Pedos

  78. 78.

    NotMax

    December 5, 2025 at 4:22 pm

    We The Equal.
    ;)

  79. 79.

    Marc

    December 5, 2025 at 4:23 pm

    @WTFGhost: The reason it sounds dumb, is, you know a Taylor Swift can swing a billion dollars in ticket sales in a year, and it seems ridiculous that everything over a billion gets hoovered up.

    What’s better, a single Taylor Swift making a billion dollars, or 1000 people without massive marketing machines behind them (from childhood) making a million each?

  80. 80.

    piratedan

    December 5, 2025 at 4:24 pm

    Just Make It Stop! ’26

    Fuck Those Bastards! ’26

    Unfuck The Country! ’26

  81. 81.

    prostratedragon

    December 5, 2025 at 4:29 pm

    @Marc: ​

    We’re forced to choose?

  82. 82.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 5, 2025 at 4:29 pm

    @WTFGhost: Hell, I think we could even eliminate millionaires if we had a really, really good social safety net. The professional class folks who accumulate a few million to retire do it because that’s how you do it– they’re not going to get a comfortable pension, we don’t have those. But imagine if we did.

  83. 83.

    billcoop4

    December 5, 2025 at 4:30 pm

    Destroy the Epstein Class.

     

    BC in the ‘dacks

  84. 84.

    Marc

    December 5, 2025 at 4:32 pm

    @prostratedragon: The music industry chooses for us by putting their money behind Taylor Swift instead of those 1000 others.

  85. 85.

    Matt McIrvin

    December 5, 2025 at 4:32 pm

    @beef: I figure if we taxed Warren Buffet and J. B. Pritzker down to a few hundred million, they might not be too happy about it but I’m not exactly crying on their behalf. There are worse kinds of collateral damage.

  86. 86.

    Just look at that parking lot

    December 5, 2025 at 4:34 pm

    Paraphrase that  old Jerry Reed song, “They got the goldmine, we got the shaft”.

  87. 87.

    UncleEbeneezer

    December 5, 2025 at 4:34 pm

    @Belafon:

    Those of us who claim to care for the oppressed need to rethink our readings of this story, in order to prevent its misuse as a weapon against our Jewish neighbors.

    Sir, this is BalloonJuice, we’ll do no such thing and you obviously just love genocide /sarcasm

    For a people who activists insist only show up in 1948 as colonizers to steal the land, there sure are a lot of Jewish characters in this book from nearly 2,000 years earlier.  Temples, synagogues, King of Jews etc.  Kinda suggests the “white colonizer” label doesn’t really tell the whole story or the truth about Jewish identity and the historical, ethnic, cultural and religious ties to the land of Israel.

  88. 88.

    Ben Cisco

    December 5, 2025 at 4:36 pm

    @trollhattan: I would say yes.

  89. 89.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 4:38 pm

    @columbusqueen: I must have missed the previous news, so I don’t know the backstory, but yay for no surgery

    Who are Mike and Archie?

  90. 90.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 4:39 pm

    @cckids:

    YOUR LIFE SHOULDN’T BE THIS HARD

    That’s good.

  91. 91.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 5, 2025 at 4:42 pm

    Getting the words right is hard.   Just an observation.  I merely mention it because it makes me think of the STEM folks (not represented here of course) who talk about how easy the humanities and social sciences are.  “You just have read stuff and write about it.”

  92. 92.

    Geminid

    December 5, 2025 at 4:46 pm

    I noticed that Daniel Biss, the liberal Evanston mayor running in the IL-09 primary, has changed his social media header. It used to include something like “fighting the oligarchs,” but now it’s, “Let’s take on the billionaire class together.”

    That’s a smart move in my opinion. The word “oligarchy” is not in common usage. Using “the billionaire class” makes the message more relatable to the general public.

  93. 93.

    dexwood

    December 5, 2025 at 4:46 pm

    It’s We the People, not We the Billionaires

  94. 94.

    Princess

    December 5, 2025 at 4:49 pm

    I think most Americans don’t know what oligarchs are and think billionaires are heroes and want to be like them.  At least judging from the reels instagram and fb feed me, which are full of stories about how the billionaire sees the true worth in people and saves the day. I think the more effective slogans are the ones that promise three easy to remember things that give you a sense of the candidate or party’s values.

  95. 95.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 4:49 pm

    Agreed.

    tbh I am only really upset that he keeps waking up just drop dead already[image or embed]— Cake or Death (@johngcole.bsky.social) December 4, 2025 at 8:30 PM

  96. 96.

    Scout211

    December 5, 2025 at 4:50 pm

    Olivia Nuzzi was fired  agreed to “part ways” with Vanity Fair.

  97. 97.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 5, 2025 at 4:51 pm

    @Princess: Of course those things are being fed to you by a billionaire’s algorithm.

  98. 98.

    Baud

    December 5, 2025 at 4:51 pm

    @Scout211:

    That’s a nice surprise.

    I wonder if she’ll head to CBS, given their new management.

  99. 99.

    Old School

    December 5, 2025 at 4:52 pm

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Frank Gehry, who designed some of the most imaginative buildings ever constructed and achieved a level of worldwide acclaim seldom afforded any architect, has died. He was 96.

  100. 100.

    UncleEbeneezer

    December 5, 2025 at 4:52 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: People right here in BJ where we are mostly ideologically aligned can never agree on the “right” messaging strategy/words.  That challenge becomes even harder when the audience is the much more complicated Electorate.

  101. 101.

    RaflW

    December 5, 2025 at 4:58 pm

    “An Honest Day’s Pay for An Honest Day’s Work”
    Said No Billionaire, Ever.  Democrats – 2026!

  102. 102.

    NotMax

    December 5, 2025 at 4:58 pm

    New Deal Not Raw Deal.
    ;)

  103. 103.

    trollhattan

    December 5, 2025 at 4:58 pm

    @Scout211: ​
     
    To summarize: friend with benefits of dude on the cover gets the boot, while venomous dude on cover remains their dream scientist.

    Nice work, Vanity Fair. Has anybody done a welfare check on Petri?

  104. 104.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 5:01 pm

    @Old School: RIP

  105. 105.

    WTFGhost

    December 5, 2025 at 5:02 pm

    @Marc: What’s better, a single Taylor Swift making a billion dollars, or 1000 people without massive marketing machines behind them (from childhood) making a million each?

    I’d love to live in a world where the thousand made a million, but there will always be a superstar (or, so the perpetual critic in my brain insists), and, you know, I’m good with the wealth tax ,and the graduated income tax, but I liked the 70% top rate, where you could use tax deductible funds to spread a lot of money, to avoid paying taxes on it, but, doing *that* invigorates the economy, or provides other protections.

    Anything too confiscatory will grate on most people. But a wealth tax… that not only wouldn’t feel too unfair, I bet it would be easy to set up – financial services would make it easy to find the best sources of liquidity to pay the assessment, possibly find cheap ways to pay with, e.g., stock shares in lieu of cash.

    And the other thing about a wealth tax, is, if it really is set at the “no one needs more money than this,” level, well, those who spend themselves below that line aren’t paying the tax, and that’s okay for me… I want the money doing something, not just sitting idle in TSLA shares owned by Mron Eusk

  106. 106.

    Sure Lurkalot

    December 5, 2025 at 5:03 pm

    @Socolofi:

    Another vote for:

    Healthcare. Housing. Hiring.

    However, I don’t like any slogan containing “Less Taxes”. Over the last 4 decades, America’s low tax obsession has hollowed out the middle class, eroded our already paltry social safety net and hoovered this country’s wealth and productivity gains to the tippy top.

  107. 107.

    Marc

    December 5, 2025 at 5:06 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer: For a people who activists insist only show up in 1948 as colonizers to steal the land, there sure are a lot of Jewish characters in this book from nearly 2,000 years earlier.  Temples, synagogues, King of Jews etc.  Kinda suggests the “white colonizer” label doesn’t really tell the whole story or the truth about Jewish identity and the historical, ethnic, cultural and religious ties to the land of Israel.

    Everyone is a migrant or descendant from somewhere, some voluntarily, most involuntarily.  We’ve been making up stories for millennia that say someone above says one or another piece of land still belongs to you and your people.  Some more or less true, most not. Then we came up with the brilliant idea of treaties that one side had no intention of keeping.  Who gets to decide which “identity and the historical, ethnic, cultural and religious ties” matter with respect to any given piece of land.  The victors of WWII after they got tired of colonizing the area and had millions of refugees to dump?  White people? Christians?  Russians? Jews? Muslims?  Obviously, possession is now 9/10ths of the law, but only if you have nuclear weapons.​
    ​
    ​

  108. 108.

    Belafon

    December 5, 2025 at 5:06 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: “Taxes are how we pay for civilization” is still relevant.

  109. 109.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    December 5, 2025 at 5:07 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot:

    Patriots Pay Taxes.

  110. 110.

    Baud

    December 5, 2025 at 5:08 pm

    “Deport Elon Musk!”

    • Anti-billionaire
    • Anti-mmigrant for the Trump populists
    • Anti-fascist
  111. 111.

    JoyceH

    December 5, 2025 at 5:08 pm

    Ha! Trump just wrote another ad for us today. FIFA made up a bogus peace prize to give him so now he loves them. So today he said something to the effect that we call football soccer here because we have this other sport called football – but that THIS (soccer) is the real football and our football needs to find another name. He’s saying that Americans need to start calling soccer football and American football something else. Can’t you just hear the football fans screaming?

  112. 112.

    Baud

    December 5, 2025 at 5:10 pm

    @JoyceH:

    Metric is coming.

  113. 113.

    Gretchen

    December 5, 2025 at 5:10 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: Maternal mortality rate in Denmark was 4/100,000 in 2023. Compared to 17 in CA and in the 30s in red states. In Georgia it’s 69.9. Gee, why can’t we adopt the Danish vaccine regimen, but with no maternity care?

  114. 114.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 5:12 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:   This one hits me right in the gut, in a good way.

    YOUR LIFE SHOULDN’T BE THIS HARD

    what do you think of that one?

  115. 115.

    Gretchen

    December 5, 2025 at 5:12 pm

    @columbusqueen: I didn’t catch what your foot problem was, but I just got out of a boot after an Achilles tendonitis procedure. It seems to have worked, and the boot wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be. Now I have to figure out how to get active again without re-straining it.

  116. 116.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 5:13 pm

    @dexwood:  Or even:

    It’s We the People, not YOU the Billionaires

  117. 117.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 5:14 pm

    @Scout211: What kind of idiot releases a book that they have to know will be problematic – before they have negotiated a contract to replace the one that would end 2 months after the release????

    edit: Glad she didn’t, because she should be PNG – persona non grata – in the journalism field until the end of her days.

  118. 118.

    Marc

    December 5, 2025 at 5:14 pm

    @Gretchen: RFK Jr would say that is all due to Denmark’s pure white gene pool, and that he is part of the effort to make sure ours will be just as pure within a few generations.

  119. 119.

    Gretchen

    December 5, 2025 at 5:14 pm

    @Marc: And Taylor Swift gives a lot of her money away. She dumped a ton of money on food banks her when she played Kansas City.

  120. 120.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 5:16 pm

    @Old School: Not to make light of that, but I wonder if the White House travesty contributed to his demise.

  121. 121.

    bluefoot

    December 5, 2025 at 5:18 pm

     

    @Gretchen: It’s never mentioned how big this country is, both in area and population and how without federal funding its difficult to provide consistent care. Denmark has the population of NYC (not the NYC metro area, but NYC) and is about the size of Maryland. Health care is a whole different beast.

  122. 122.

    Marc

    December 5, 2025 at 5:18 pm

    @Gretchen: And maybe if that money wasn’t accumulating in a few hands, food banks wouldn’t have to make due with tip money from celebrities.  We can argue this forever, but the system is broken and isn’t going to be fixed until the pursuit of wealth is about as popular as smoking a cigar in public.

  123. 123.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 5, 2025 at 5:19 pm

    @WaterGirl:  Bean’s slogan “Feed kids, fix roads and fund hospitals” that comrade scott quoted above is the best I’ve seen in this thread.    Short and punchy.  Conveys a positive agenda.

  124. 124.

    Captain C

    December 5, 2025 at 5:21 pm

    @Scout211: Hopefully she will forever be known as ‘Livvy the Felch’.

  125. 125.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 5:23 pm

    @Gretchen:

    And Taylor Swift gives a lot of her money away. She dumped a ton of money on food banks her when she played Kansas City. 

    She took on her fiance’s team and won?

  126. 126.

    Trivia Man

    December 5, 2025 at 5:23 pm

    @WaterGirl: I like it and it needs an action

    Your life shouldn’t be this hard
    Vote for a democrat now

  127. 127.

    HopefullynotCassandra

    December 5, 2025 at 5:24 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: Hoosiers with a worse infant mortality rate than Texans is surprising.  Conversely, Californians (and CA’s big blue super majority) have been working to lower mother and infant mortality for decades.

    In the way back, when goper Pete Wilson (he who first wrongly thought targeting Latinos at their doctors and in their schools was fine, Christian politics) was California’s gubernator, he spent money allocated to lower infant mortality in the state on truly offensive murals in minority areas that featured x’ed out women throwing their babies in trash cans.  California did not have that problem in the places with those large murals except in Wilson’s mind.  The problem was mostly getting the pregnant into quality prenatal care they could afford.

    That is still the gravest problem.  In Texas, most of the state’s geography is a prenatal healthcare desert after Texas’ legislature defunded planned parenthood.

  128. 128.

    Gretchen

    December 5, 2025 at 5:24 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: Yes. There’s a lot of talk that seniors shouldn’t have to pay property taxes, like they don’t benefit from ambulances, police, firefighters, parks, snow removal. And good luck trying to sell a house if the local schools stink.

  129. 129.

    Captain C

    December 5, 2025 at 5:24 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Philly signed her as a slot receiver midseason, so yeah.

  130. 130.

    HopefullynotCassandra

    December 5, 2025 at 5:25 pm

    @Snarki, child of Loki: excellent!

    How about

    In Your Heart You Know Trump’s Nuts

  131. 131.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 5:26 pm

    @JoyceH: I’m fine with calling tackle football Fuck Off and Die Dipshit Donnie.

  132. 132.

    zhena gogolia

    December 5, 2025 at 5:26 pm

    @Scout211: Oh, good. So I don’t have to part ways with them. The “portrait” of her in the Hollywood issue is cringingly bad.

  133. 133.

    Wileybud

    December 5, 2025 at 5:27 pm

    @Barney: They are for the obscenely wealthy, we are for everyone else.

     

    @Barney:

  134. 134.

    HopefullynotCassandra

    December 5, 2025 at 5:28 pm

    @cckids: I hear  a version of that all of the time.  It shouldn’t be this hard.  Nearly everyday, somebody says that to me.

  135. 135.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 5:28 pm

    @Marc: Hell of a thing from a leatherfaced nutjob.

  136. 136.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 5, 2025 at 5:34 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Feed.  Fix. Fund.  Assonance is memorable just like alliteration and rhymes.   It contains its own call to action and isn’t simply a complaint.  It’s good.

  137. 137.

    Scout211

    December 5, 2025 at 5:34 pm

    It looks like the ad is now placed, or a place holder for an ad.  But it’s not below the footer. It’s below whatever is on your screen and scrolls down as you scroll down. It’s not bad and it’s not too distracting.

    Now it’s gone, so I guess that was a false alarm? My imagination? Strange.

  138. 138.

    Omnes Omnibus

    December 5, 2025 at 5:38 pm

    @Scout211:  Put down the brown acid.

  139. 139.

    HopefullynotCassandra

    December 5, 2025 at 5:39 pm

    @beef: I don’t  begrudge anyone anything.  I do, however, question the sanity of this

    “If you earned $7,000 an hour every day since the birth of Jesus Christ, you’d have a whopping $124 billion by the end of 2022 and would still have made less money than 58-year-old Jeff Bezos — whose estimated net worth is $138.2 billion“

  140. 140.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 5:41 pm

    @Scout211: can you get a screen capture and send it to me?  Because I am not seeing a thing.

  141. 141.

    Scout211

    December 5, 2025 at 5:41 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Put down the brown acid.

    Always with the good advice. ;-)

  142. 142.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 5:44 pm

    @Captain C: Swift 42!  Swift 42!  Hut hut!  GOATS!

  143. 143.

    Scout211

    December 5, 2025 at 5:44 pm

    @WaterGirl: I only saw it for a few seconds. Sorry. And now I’m questioning my sanity.

    It sure looked like a placeholder for an ad. It had some numbers but no words.

  144. 144.

    Castor Canadensis

    December 5, 2025 at 5:45 pm

    s/Oligarchs/Super Rich/

  145. 145.

    HopefullynotCassandra

    December 5, 2025 at 5:45 pm

    @piratedan: all good.

     

    @billcoop4: excellent

     

    @dexwood: love it!

     

    @Old School: RIP great man.  He earned it.  I hope he finished his designs for the Los Angeles River restoration.

  146. 146.

    JoyceH

    December 5, 2025 at 5:46 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: ​
     

    When I read that Trump had told the Yurupeens that theirs is the real football, I shook my head and said, “They say that with dementia your political instincts are the first thing to go.”

  147. 147.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 5, 2025 at 5:47 pm

    @JoyceH: Haha!

  148. 148.

    Geminid

    December 5, 2025 at 5:56 pm

    @Marc: Without speaking to the validity of the phrase as applied to Israel, I view the charge that it is a “settler colonial state” in light of the fact that I live in the biggest and most successful settler colonial state in history.

  149. 149.

    Just look at that parking lot

    December 5, 2025 at 5:58 pm

    Back in the 70’s there was a Texas oilman named Eddie Chiles. He owned the drilling supply company Western Company of North America. Like most Texas oilmen, he was a far right, anti government die hard. He had a radio show and mimicked Howard Beale in Network yelling that he was mad as hell about this  & that. There were bumper stickers made up reading I’m Mad too, Eddie. For years people  used that as a response to anyone who was bitching about anything.

    I don’t know if this has much to do with this conversation, but at least it includes a part about a bumper sticker.

  150. 150.

    Geminid

    December 5, 2025 at 6:05 pm

    @Just look at that parking lot: Then there’s Representative Tim Burchett. He was speaking at rally for the Republican candidate in this week’s TN-07 special election and cried:

       “Dadgummit, we’re fed up!

    Demosthenes, hold mah beer!

  151. 151.

    ColoradoGuy

    December 5, 2025 at 6:19 pm

    How’s this: “Arrest Billionaire Criminals!”

    Make the first letters red, so it reads ABC

  152. 152.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 6:30 pm

    @Scout211: I’m sure you’re not crazy.

  153. 153.

    rattlemullet

    December 5, 2025 at 6:37 pm

    GOP for Billionaires, We Are for the People

  154. 154.

    The Loony Liberal

    December 5, 2025 at 6:44 pm

    “Vote for Who Represents You, Not Who Resents You.”

  155. 155.

    Socolofi

    December 5, 2025 at 6:52 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: Thx.

    Yeah, I kinda like Healthcare. Housing. Hiring. better than the Less Taxes one.

    That said, the question that comes AFTER a slogan is, “How ya gonna do it?” People get “Less taxes” although maybe not the cuts that come after it. Promises on affordability… tougher. I mean, there’s a key reason why Trump is pushing to get back to near-zero interest rates.

  156. 156.

    WTFGhost

    December 5, 2025 at 6:58 pm

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage: I like that!

     

    @WaterGirl: Heh heh. Good sign for me, “Your life shouldn’t be this hard.” Left unsaid “mine should, but day-um, yours shouldn’t suck that much!”)

  157. 157.

    frosty

    December 5, 2025 at 7:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: ​“Feed kids, fix roads and fund hospitals”

    I agree. Short, punchy, alliterative, easy to remember.

  158. 158.

    A Ghost to Most

    December 5, 2025 at 7:13 pm

    Still denying half the problem, I see. The programming is strong in this one.

  159. 159.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2025 at 7:50 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:  How is focusing on one thing denying something else?

    Even so, I would love to hear what you think is the other half of the problem.

  160. 160.

    Another Scott

    December 5, 2025 at 8:07 pm

    “Don’t let them distract you.

    Our problem isn’t that poor people have too much money.”

    Something like that.

    Thanks.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  161. 161.

    Princess

    December 5, 2025 at 9:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I though it was pretty much perfect.

  162. 162.

    columbusqueen

    December 5, 2025 at 10:44 pm

    @WaterGirl: Mike is my husband, & Archie is our big orange dumbell of a cat who tripped me up & caused my ankle fracture.

  163. 163.

    Ramalama

    December 6, 2025 at 5:51 am

    @coin operated: how about Eat the Rich.

    The word tax has been successfully gamed so that normies flinch from it, just like the weasels do.

  164. 164.

    Geminid

    December 6, 2025 at 7:01 am

    @Ramalama: I’m not sure most people are that repelled by the slogan, “Tax the Rich.” Higher taxes for the rich consistenty polls well.

    On the other hand, I think normies would find the slogan “Eat the Rich” somewhat deranged.

  165. 165.

    WaterGirl

    December 6, 2025 at 8:07 am

    @columbusqueen: So glad you didn’t have to have surgery!!!

  166. 166.

    Janus Daniels

    December 6, 2025 at 10:21 am

    FOUR FREEDOMS or maybe FOUR FREEDOMS AND MORE
    fdrlibrary.org/four-freedoms

  167. 167.

    Miss Bianca

    December 6, 2025 at 11:30 am

    @WaterGirl: Way late to the thread. But I like that one! It’s pithy, but it also invites thought and explanation.

  168. 168.

    Jinchi

    December 6, 2025 at 11:32 am

    For a bumper sticker, you want to keep it short and in common language in a way that gets the reader thinking.

    “Tax the Rich” :

    Straight to the point. Good, but a little vague since “rich” is what most Americans want to be someday.

    “Billionaires should be illegal” :

    Simple, reminds people of Mamdani’s campaign, suggests lots of solutions to the problem, and targets every member of Trump’s cabinet. Lots of Americans will retire with a million dollars in assets. Virtually none of us will retire with a billion.

    “Elon Musk stole my Social Security” :

    Reminds people of all the BS that happened in the last year, and that the richest man in the world can’t be happy unless old people are starving on the street while he jets off to Trump’s balloom.​​​​

  169. 169.

    Pzoodonym

    December 18, 2025 at 11:10 am

    I’m thinking it’s fine for slogans to be vague, and it’s probably good for ’em to sound patriotic:

    Bring Back America

    Fight Corruption

    or Save The Country

    though I also like “For The People, Not The Billionaires”

    Definitely agreed we should stay away from extremely-online buzzwords. Slogans are aimed at normies, not at politics geeks (and if you’re readin’ this, you ain’t one of the normies!)

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