Here is the text of Bush’s weekly radio address.
Thanks to Feinstein and Schumer, someone who can’t even tell us what torture is will likely be the next Attorney General.
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Here is the text of Bush’s weekly radio address.
Thanks to Feinstein and Schumer, someone who can’t even tell us what torture is will likely be the next Attorney General.
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Mark-NC
We have two lovely political parties – don’t we?
One thinks torture is the proper face for the “new” America.
One is so gutless that torture gets a two thumbs up because they are too afraid to stand up and say no.
Disgusting!!!!!!
Wilfred
get fucking real; Mukasey was hand-picked by Aipac, there was no way that Schumer/feinstein would have ever voted against him. This is from the Jerusalem Post article entitled; Bush selects Orthodox Jew for new Attorney General:
Notice the triple conflation. Well it ain’t great for all the brown people about to be waterboarded, but who gives a fuck, right?
Cinderella Ferret
C’mon guys what’s a bit of torture now and again? Jesus! Jack Bauer does it effectively every time a nuke or (insert favorite cataclysmic event here) is about to be unleashed by some evil bastard. These straw men, false dichotomies, and appeals to probability are rife with fallacy, and avoid the simple, sad truth that we can expect our service members will be tortured when captured. We do not engage in a systematic policy of torture because we are the shining beacon of liberty and justice in the world. We occupied the moral high ground, and rightfully so. I fear that high ground has been surrendered by an imperial administration teeming with war criminals and vicious malefactors. Sadly the Vichy Democrats now genuflect before the altar of the Former Cheerleader and his gang of thugs.
Ellison, Ellensburg, Ellers, and Lambchop
Or Occam’s explanation: These Senators really don’t believe that waterboarding constitutes torture.
cleek
no, the Occam explanation is that they think it works. it requires supra-Clintonian levels of parsing to define waterboarding so that it isn’t torture.
RSA
My take on Occam: These Senators are not considering torture in their Mukasey votes. (That is, this is a simpler explanation in that it eliminates our assumptions about the Senators’ beliefs.)
Heywood Jablomy
Occam say: “May who dummily cites my Razor is likeliest dumb.”
Heywood Jablomy
Occam say: “MAN who dummily cites my Razor is likeliest dumb.”
Heywood dumb too.
But not as dumb.
Waterboarder
It is not the business of the attorney general to define what does and does not constitute torture. That business begins to the lawmakers – Congress. If congress defines waterboarding as torture and torture as illegal, then it is the AG’s responsibility to enforce that law.
This spineless Congress does not have the stones to put their words into deed. Define waterboarding as torture, and have the AG enforce the law. That’s his job.
Otherwise, shut up.
Leisureguy
Dianne Feinstein has no shame and no sense of direction. She also voted for the Kyl-Lieberman thing on Iran. She really is a Lieberman Democrat, and the sooner she’s gone the better, in my opinion. I live in California…
What’s worst about this is that she has taken a clear position that waterboarding IS torture. So when she votes to support Mukasey, she’s voting to support torture and knows it. She is contemptible.
Xenos
Waterboarding is already legally considered torture. We prosecuted Japanese officers who conducted waterboarding for war crimes, with existing legislation at the time.
And since this is a nation of laws, not men, where is the law that allows waterboarding? The government does not get to do whatever it likes because they feel like denying that an activity does not really, not this time at least, fit the definition of torture. Without the express power to do something under the law or the constitution, the government lacks authority.
Bruce Moomaw
“Waterboarding is already legally considered torture. We prosecuted Japanese officers who conducted waterboarding for war crimes, with existing legislation at the time.”
Yes indeed — which of course is the hole in EEEL’s latest attempt to alibi the Bushites, and which has already been routinely pointed out over the last 2 years by Senators on the Judiciary Committee. So let’s knock off the increasingly pathetic attempts at radar chaff, hm, EEEL? If you want to say that there are some circumstances under which torture is defensible as an interrogation technique, say so, and we can start debating how common (or, more accurately, how rare) they are. But please stop insulting our intelligence (if not necessarily your own) by denying that waterboarding is torture.
Bruce Moomaw
Fore more detail on the last, see last night’s Wash. Post.
Pinko Punko
No, it is not thanks to those munchwads Feinstein and Schumer, it is thanks to the 100% of the Republican party that will vote for this guy. There is more than enough blame to go around.
Darkrose
There really aren’t enough words to express the degree to which I have come to loathe the senior Senator from California.
She also voted to send Judge Leslie Southwick’s nomination to the 5th Circuit to the full Senate for a vote. This is a guy who decided that a woman should be denied custody of her child because of “her choice to engage in the lesbian lifestyle”. But hey–he told Dianne that he’s not a bigot, so it’s okay!
Xenos
As a result of such accounts, a number of Japanese prison-camp officers and guards were convicted of torture that clearly violated the laws of war. They were not the only defendants convicted in such cases. As far back as the U.S. occupation of the Philippines after the 1898 Spanish-American War, U.S. soldiers were court-martialed for using the “water cure” to question Filipino guerrillas.
Read it, EEEL/waterboy. Case law like this is the law, until Congress changes it or a superior court reverses it. I like how Pat Buchanan came out with this line on Dan Abrams’ show, and Abrams pretty much told him to STFU. Who is coordinating this misinformation propaganda of yours, you un-american, anti-american bastards?
To hell with you, and the criminals you work for, too.