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Late Night Open Thread: The RNC’s Never-Ending Debate Dumpster Fire

by Anne Laurie|  November 3, 20153:57 am| 120 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Assholes

Has it ever occurred to the GOP that instead of dumbing down the debates they could smarten up their candidates?

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 3, 2015

SCOOP: Trump to deal directly w/ networks, blowing up group GOP debate effort, with @daveweigel https://t.co/3bwnsMP1mG

— Robert Costa (@costareports) November 2, 2015

Well, that certainly went well. From the Washington Post, company paper in the town whose monopoly industry is national politics, Monday evening:

The format and content of upcoming Republican debates became increasingly uncertain on Monday after Donald Trump’s campaign said the real estate mogul would negotiate his terms directly with television executives instead of as part of a joint effort with his rivals.

The move by Trump, coming just hours after his and other campaigns huddled in a Washington suburb to craft a three-page letter of possible demands, thwarts an effort to find consensus after what most candidates agreed was a debacle hosted by CNBC last week…

Parties control fewer things in super PAC era. So RNC tried to seize what was left. But that's now in jeopardy. https://t.co/f3wJ3JwuXK

— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) November 2, 2015

Lost in debate freak-out: 2012 debates were overwhelmingly *good* for Romney until Newt blew out SC. Primary, not debates, pulled him right.

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) November 2, 2015

Back story, from Jim Newell at Slate – “The GOP’s Presidential Contenders Are Hijacking Their Own Debates“:

In a Godfather-esque gathering of rival political concerns, representatives of the Republican presidential campaigns gathered in an Alexandria, Virginia Hilton on Sunday evening to draw up a list of conditions for their participation in future presidential debates. The campaigns still are all het up about the completely unfair questioning that business-Republican network CNBC subjected them to last week, such as, Marco Rubio, your tax plan is really good for the wealthy, no? or, Ben Carson, why were you in bed with this snake-oil company for so many years? If the moderators had asked fair questions, see, the candidates wouldn’t have been forced to lie. What’s so complicated about that?…

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The campaigns and their consiglieres put together a list of demands to which future debate hosts must agree to ensure the candidates’ participation. The finalized version, as obtained by the Washington Post, is hilarious in its granularity. Not once but twice does the document inveigh against “lightening [sic] rounds,” which must be banned “because of their frivolousness or ‘gotcha’ nature, or in some cases both.” The letter also implores networks to agree not to “ask the candidates to raise their hands to answer a question,” “allow candidate-to-candidate questioning,” “allow props or pledges by the candidates,” “show an empty podium after a break (describe how far away the bathrooms are),” or “leaves microphones on after breaks.” What about allowing hot mics in the distant bathrooms? There’s no clear rule on that, though it would certainly violate the spirit of the letter…

What was the point of having the RNC serve as middleman in the first place? To navigate the party through the primary process in a way that didn’t damage the eventual nominee too much before the general election. Priebus was able to cut the number of debates roughly in half, and he ensured that no mischievous entity like MSNBC was granted hosting duties. The candidates have found his efforts lacking, though, and are using the leverage that’s available to them as a group to run the show themselves. So far, it looks like they’ll use that power to ensure that they don’t, for even a hot second, have to factor general-election considerations into their primary strategies…

Letting the RNC pick the moderators and the format while letting the networks keep the ad profits seems like a good win-win to me.

— Joseph Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) November 2, 2015

Good test of which networks really see themselves as news orgs, & which just want broadcast rights to a big fight https://t.co/G2aW2tgD9e

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) November 2, 2015

Candidates remember they're competing against one another! Trump liaison of convenience w Carson not so convenient! https://t.co/5kg9dH0qYh

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) November 3, 2015

The Post, again:

… The consternation marked the latest turn in a debate process that has grown more problematic by the day. Officials with the Republican National Committee took control of the process for the 2016 presidential election after a long and eventful debate season that many in the party thought hurt its chances in 2012.

But the campaigns have been quietly irritated by the rigid process all year and broke into open revolt last week. The RNC responded by suspending NBC from hosting its Feb. 26 event, and it put a new staffer in charge of managing the debates.

RNC spokesman Sean Spicer, who had been overseeing the deliberations before being replaced last week, said he supports Trump and others as they negotiate directly with television executives. “These debates have always been about the candidates,” Spicer said. “The candidates will be and always should be determining the best format for them.”…

My emphasis. Dear ex-bosses: Fvck you very much, you fvcking bunch of fvckers. Luv, S. Spicer.
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So, really, the GOP candidates just unionized and are presenting their contract demands, right?

— OKnox (@OKnox) November 2, 2015

too bad the Scott Walker campaign couldn't get in on the GOP 2016 collective petition for better working conditions

— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) November 2, 2015

IDEA: Apply the Laffer curve to debates. Cut overall time to 90 minutes, and all 14 candidates will get 15 minutes to talk.

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) November 2, 2015

There's something so delicious about the GOP's collective demand for a "safe space" for debates.

— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) November 2, 2015

Simon Maloy, at Salon, “Why These Clowns Should Be Laughed Out of the Room“:

… To be clear about what’s going on here: the candidates have precisely zero intention of fostering “substantive” discussion at the debates. The CNBC debate was a travesty largely because the moderators completely lost control of the forum and allowed the candidates to reframe their substantive questions as inappropriate expressions of “liberal bias.” They allowed themselves to be cowed by the bullying of self-interested actors whose chief concerns are protecting their own images and controlling the flow of information. The RNC’s letter to NBC and this list of demands from the candidates are just an escalation of what was already a pretty flagrant attempt at intimidation.

There is no good reason why any media outlet should consent to aid the candidates in executing their public relations strategy. And there is absolutely no justification for ceding any degree of editorial control to the candidates – even if it’s over something as annoying and reviled as “show of hands” questions, you’re still letting a politician dictate how you do journalism, which sets a horrible precedent. Such requests should be squelched as violently as possible. Moderators asking bad questions is a problem, but the solution is not to empower the campaigns to determine which questions are permissible.

If the candidates threaten to boycott, fine, let them. It’s doubtful that many would follow through on that threat given the exposure they’d be sacrificing and the mockery they’d be opening themselves up to. If they do boycott, invite the JV debate participants to take their place. Leave an empty lectern on stage with the name on it. Explain that they declined to attend because they were uncomfortable with certain types of questions that might be asked. The candidates already view the media as the enemy, so the media should be highly reluctant to give them any quarter…

Amazing how campaigns will freak out on RNC but are worried about making Ailes mad. That's power. https://t.co/3J5IfFH3ly

— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) November 2, 2015

Debates shouldn't be interviews, they should be about "revealing the differences between candidates" —@RonBrownstein https://t.co/oVTY5gCS5e

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) November 2, 2015

And back to the WaPo, for the closer:

… Most Republican aides who came to Sunday’s conclave were not especially hopeful about finding consensus. Ginsberg, who oversaw the two-hour conversation, also made clear in his remarks to the group that his goal was to give them advice about how to deal with the networks, not necessarily urge them to work together.

Mark Levin, a talk-radio host and author suggested by some Republicans as a possible moderator, told Breitbart News on Monday that the RNC had lost control of the debates. “Reince Priebus should be fired or should resign,” Levin said of the RNC’s chair…

Yeah! Reince and all GOP candidates should only go on Fox News, period. But only the loyal Fox News people!!! https://t.co/Un3BAXVwlY

— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) November 2, 2015

Time for Paul Ryan to step up and moderate all the GOP debates.

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) November 2, 2015

Item: Fiorina floats Glenn Beck as a possible GOP debate moderator. pic.twitter.com/vGL8wlVOXK

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 2, 2015

Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and Karl Rove would be great moderators. https://t.co/aBQ6n9parO

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 3, 2015

I can't wait for the Animal Planet debate. "Gov Bush, first question. Well, less a question and more 'there's a bear behind you'"

— OKnox (@OKnox) November 2, 2015

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Open Thread: Speaking of Design Changes…

by Anne Laurie|  November 1, 201510:30 pm| 83 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Republicans in Disarray!, Assholes, Fools! Overton Window!

BREAKING NEWS: There will be a letter of demands sent to networks from campaigns in the next 48 hours, per leaders of tonight's mtg.

— Robert Costa (@costareports) November 2, 2015

If this is the kind of media coercion they do in public, can you imagine what goes on in private? https://t.co/PnoPqmGz2X

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 2, 2015

Some Rs involved w/ tonight's mtg are reaching out to Priebus, who is watching the Packers game, to reassure him they fought for RNC in room

— Robert Costa (@costareports) November 2, 2015

The various GOP Kandidates have many, many problems with the RNC’s debate setup!

Per the Washington Post, company paper for the town where politics is the monopoly industry:

Several Republican presidential campaigns began mapping out new demands Sunday for greater control over the format and content of primary debates, which have attracted big audiences and become strategically critical for the 2016 cycle’s expansive field of contenders.

The effort was a response to long-simmering frustrations over the debates, the questions and in some cases the moderators, which boiled over this weekend when advisers from at least 11 campaigns met in the Washington suburbs to deliberate about how to regain sway over the process…

The meeting also exposed a leadership rift that has widened in recent days between the Republican National Committee, which negotiated the debate schedule and formats, and some of the candidates. RNC officials said they would not participate in Sunday’s meeting, but they have been reassuring campaign operatives that they are willing to recalibrate the events.

Shortly before the meeting began, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus announced a staff shake-up within the GOP that appeared intended to calm the unhappiness of the presidential campaigns…

As the meeting got underway, senior strategists from several presidential campaigns revealed in e-mails and text messages that Priebus’s staff shake-up was not enough. One campaign manager, who was granted anonymity to speak about the private meeting, wrote: “Major question is if the RNC should be involved at all.”

The campaigns reached an early consensus on one issue, according to several operatives in the room: the secure standing of Fox News Channel. Any changes would be applied to debates after next week’s Fox Business Network debate. Among the reasons, according to one operative in the room, was that “people are afraid to make Roger [Ailes] mad,” a reference to the network’s chief.

Bush campaign manager Danny Diaz recommended that Telemundo be reinstated after being dropped along with NBC. But the campaign of businessman Donald Trump, represented by manager Corey Lewandowski, threatened to boycott a debate if the Spanish-language network that Trump has clashed with was granted one…

“I told Priebus about a week ago that I didn’t like the structure of the debates and how the party was rationing them,” Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) said in an interview. “I said, ‘Something has to change.’ I know they didn’t anticipate 15 candidates in the debates, but there are, and it blew up on them. These debates aren’t what they should be. You have the wrong people in charge of the subject matter and topics, setting candidates up for cheap shots.”…

Why is Steve “Pig Muck” King being interviewed on this issue, being as he’s neither a candidate nor a campaign manager? Because, I guess, he’s the champion of the new “Know Nothing/No Nothing” wing of the Republican Party?

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Because I Love My Son, And You

by Tom Levenson|  October 29, 201511:49 am| 70 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!

The sprout asked me to post this:

 

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I think I’m raising my boy right, don’t you?

Talk about hairpieces, orange fruit, and anything else that tickles your fancy.

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Thursday Morning Open Thread: De-bacle

by Anne Laurie|  October 29, 20155:30 am| 192 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Republicans in Disarray!, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

This is the absolute nadir of political discourse. Nothing said in this whole debate but stupid. And some outright lies.

— Clara Jeffery (@ClaraJeffery) October 29, 2015

Twitter spent today discussing the dangers of a reckless ball of hot air & tonight live-tweeting the GOP debate. At least we're consistent.

— John Dingell (@JohnDingell) October 29, 2015

Is there any product I can buy in Colorado that would take my mind off this garbage fire of a debate?

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) October 29, 2015

The reason Media-bashing works in the GOP primary is also the reason the GOP struggles in national elections — closed information ecosystem

— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) October 29, 2015

TL:DR summary — this debate not nearly as funny as #1 or #2. But just as filled with invidious brain-rattling horseshit.

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) October 29, 2015

Conventional wisdom: it’s coming down to Rubio & Cruz. Polls: Carson & Trump maintain wide lead.

— David Roberts (@drvox) October 29, 2015

CNBC should be ashamed of how this debate was handled. #GOPDebate

— Reince Priebus (@Reince) October 29, 2015

Note that debate arrangements were organized by RNC w/explicit goal of avoiding a 2012-style circus https://t.co/BbUJt1ikI0

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) October 29, 2015

All together, now: THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR JOHN MCCAIN ELLIS BUSH!

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Late Night Open Thread: Freedumb Caucus – Curses, Foiled Again!

by Anne Laurie|  October 27, 201512:18 am| 106 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Enhanced Protest Techniques, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Republicans in Disarray!, Ryan Lyin' Weasel, Just Shut the Fuck Up

EXCLUSIVE: House conservative leaders say it's too late to stop debt ceiling hike: https://t.co/Rfe37MMZjC pic.twitter.com/a0cPA93EZA

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) October 26, 2015

From the Reuters article:

Leaders of the U.S. House of Representatives’ most influential conservative group told Reuters on Monday it was too late to stop an extension of the federal debt ceiling this week, but they will not hold it against the expected next House Speaker, Paul Ryan.

Representatives Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan and Mick Mulvaney, founders of the hard-right Freedom Caucus, told Reuters in an interview that there was not enough time for House Republicans to rally around a list of demands for raising the $18.1 trillion U.S. borrowing limit.

Outgoing House Speaker John Boehner is working with Democratic and Republican congressional leaders to finalize terms of an extension of federal borrowing authority through March 2017 along with a $112 billion deal to ease military and domestic spending caps for two years, according to House and Senate aides and lawmakers…

However, [Mulvaney] said Ryan’s first big test would be a spending bill to keep government agencies open past a current shutdown deadline of Dec. 11. This would have to produce “at least something better than we would have gotten under Mr. Boehner.”

Mulvaney said that in his view, that would mean not raising any discretionary spending caps without an equal amount of spending cuts elsewhere.

That’s Meadows in the twitter pic, wishing he had a mustache to twirl. As I interpret it, the Freedumb-Humpers Caucus will present a list of absolutely non-negotiable demands along with this bill to President Obama, and he will inform them they are free to pound sand into the orifices of their choosing. Then they will go on to their next outrage, because that is what they do, just like my little rescue dogs shriek impotently at the mailman every day, never slacking at their self-appointed “responsibilities”.

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And if Paul Ryan thinks he’s getting off easy, Jim Newell at Slate disagrees:

… At no moment in this process will Freedom Caucus members be deserving of sympathy. It is their fault that the constituents who empower their crusades are unresponsive to reason. When it comes to confronting their constituents with facts, they have been cowards, choosing to fan the prevailing rage rather than challenge it…

The Freedom Caucus’ irresponsible antics have quite obviously earned them enmity among party leaders, donors, and moderates. In the most comical example of their cowardice, these members are trying to use the speaker’s election process to ensure that they are never put through the same test that Tea Partiers delight in subjecting “establishment” candidates to: primaries. The Chamber of Commerce, which successfully propped up many “establishment” Republican Senate candidates against Tea Party challengers in 2014, is talking about going after more obnoxious House Tea Party members in 2016. The Freedom Caucus wants the next speaker and his leadership team to “step in to make sure that [doesn’t] happen,” according to Rep. Mick Mulvaney. They’re throwing a fit. And, God help him, Paul Ryan is treating this seriously instead of laughing it off.

The good news for Freedom Caucus members is that it appears that Speaker Boehner will try to push through a bipartisan, two-year debt ceiling and budget deal package as his last act before Ryan is elected speaker. It’s not good news because Freedom Caucus members will like the sweeping package—early outlines of the deal suggest that conservatives will complain about this like it’s Christmas morning and their parents bought them the wrong color pony. But at least it will be Boehner who brings it to the floor instead of Ryan, the sellout RINO whom the sellout RINO Freedom Caucus allowed to become speaker.

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Monday Morning Open Thread: This Year’s BE VERY AFRAID!!! Fads

by Anne Laurie|  October 26, 20155:21 am| 118 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!, Our Failed Media Experiment

Fear mounting that Ecstasy tablets can easily be mistaken for colored Halloween candy https://t.co/lrn1bIEn8U pic.twitter.com/dIwBZHpNz7

— CBS News (@CBSNews) October 25, 2015

Halloween is a generous time when people who could make a lot of money selling drugs just give them away, I guess https://t.co/RbIBEA1C27

— Elizabeth Bruenig (@ebruenig) October 25, 2015

Like falling leaves and Christmas layaway advertising, it happens every autumn…

Parents across the country may have been spooked by warnings spread through social media in recent days, raising fears that Ecstasy tablets could be mistaken for brightly colored Halloween candy — potentially putting children at risk…

In fact, according to the myth-busting website Snopes.com, these drugs have been around for years in the same shapes and colors, and there’s no evidence anyone has ever slipped them to a child in a trick-or-treat bag…

Moreover, the site notes, “The small collection of pills depicted here represents a street value of hundreds of dollars, so the notion that a neighbor would be distributing them to trick-or-treaters for no ostensible reason is rather implausible.”…

If you prefer a more cerebral brand of grassroots terrorism, our modern Republican party is always ready to serve. Per Jim Newell, at Slate:

… Buried relatively deeply on Politico’s front page, beneath stories about Benghazi and the Jeb Bush campaign’s pay cuts, is a piece about how we are a handful of legislative days from surpassing our statutory borrowing limit and no one is doing anything. Earlier this week the plan was to pass a stringent Republican Study Committee–backed bill that would have frozen all new regulations, among other deliciously fantastical conservative goodies. But GOP leaders have backed away because even that did not have enough support among Republicans…

Heck, the Repubs can’t even find themselves a new Speaker, because nobody is pure enough. Even the House Freedom-Humping Caucus is taking flack, because they decided to throw their gang colors behind a certain zombie-eyed granny-starving RINO, per the Washington Post:

… “You should all be replaced,” a critic told Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.). Another called Rep. Raúl R. Labrador (R-Idaho), one of the most persistent thorns in Boehner’s side, “a RINO establishment lap dog” and “another go-along to get along phony who will GLADLY step on the throats of the Conservative electorate.”

Things may never be the same for the Freedom Caucus after most of its members moved last week to support Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) as the next House speaker. Suddenly, they may not be conservative enough for some in the party.

The groundswell of support from hard-core conservative voters that emboldened the group as it battled Boehner and the GOP establishment seemed to subside for the first time in months. That has put its members in the unfamiliar position of defending their right flank…

The anger over Ryan’s ascent has been fueled by voices across the conservative media landscape. On the Internet, sites such as Breitbart.com and the Drudge Report have pumped out a steady stream of anti-Ryan stories casting doubt on his record, while such prominent commentators as Erick Erickson, Ann Coulter and Mickey Kaus have sharpened their teeth and urged conservatives to contact lawmakers and tell them to spurn Ryan…

Laura Ingraham last week called Ryan “basically John Boehner with better abs” and featured segment after segment attacking Ryan’s positions on trade and immigration. She also mocked his desire to spend his weekends with his family.

Another influential host, Mark Levin, lambasted Ryan as a creature of the establishment elite. “I think it’s time, ladies and gentlemen, to choose a speaker from outside the House of Representatives,” he told his audience Wednesday. “This is the best the Republican establishment can do; it’s just not good enough.”…

A veritable cornucopia of cartoon ghouls — just in time for trick-or-treating!

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Thursday Morning Open Thread: Under-Ripe to Rise?

by Anne Laurie|  October 22, 20154:45 am| 175 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, JEB! = John Ellis Not-Bush 2016, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republicans in Disarray!, Assholes

This is going in the background quote Hall of Fame https://t.co/M65uCGQJJU pic.twitter.com/EP5avhnjVo

— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) October 21, 2015

I don’t remember US News & World Report as a left-leaning publication (/snark), but here’s David Catanese’s report on “The Demise of Jeb Bush“:

… Less than four months before primary voting begins, Bush has sunk into second-tier status in the GOP nominating bout. He’s stuck in a single-digit polling slump, idling between fourth and fifth place in the 15-candidate field, even after his allies have blitzed the television airwaves with more than $5 million in advertising. His much heralded fundraising prowess has also been neutralized, as he’s raised essentially as much money as Sen. Ted Cruz this last quarter and saved less than the rogue upstart Ben Carson.

“What gave [Bush] the status of front-runner is the money that was known that he had raised. But this year, with the field this large, I’m not sure that money will dictate the outcome,” says Iowa state Rep. Mary Ann Hanusa, who attended an early Bush event before endorsing Ohio Gov. John Kasich. “The media called [Bush] the front-runner, but sometimes the voters have other ideas.”…

Even among Bush’s admirers, there’s a gathering sense he can’t win this race anymore – that in order for him to become the nominee, his rivals have to lose it…

Bush’s path to victory seems more elusive each day. And by most standards, his most viable track should have already begun to take shape. Sure, in late October 2011, there were polls that showed Herman Cain holding a small lead for the GOP nomination. But what’s less cited is that eventual nominee Mitt Romney remained consistently in second place, always polling in double-digits and usually in the 20s.

From that barometer, Bush isn’t even close to where Romney was. His current polling looks most like that of Ron Paul, who stayed in the ongoing race until May 2012 but came in fourth place in terms of delegates…

Being classed with the likes of Ron Paul has got to be the most unkindest cut of all. Well, apart from the “he’ll totally be ready for 2020!” remark…

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Apart from wishing further confusion to our Repub enemies (same as every day, Pinky!), what’s on the agenda for the day?

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