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Medium Cool – Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers, Part III

by WaterGirl|  March 26, 20237:00 pm| 151 Comments

This post is in: Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers, Books, Guest Posts, Medium Cool, Open Threads, Popular Culture, Culture as a Hedge Against This Soul-Sucking Political Miasma We're Living In

Medium Cool is a weekly series related to popular culture, mostly film, TV, and books, with some music and games thrown in.  We hope it’s a welcome break from the anger, hate, and idiocy we see almost daily from the other side in the political sphere.

Arguments welcomed, opinions respected, fools un-suffered.  We’re here every Sunday at 7 pm.

Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers, Part III

by Subaru Diane

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British actor Harriet Walter as Harriet Vane, the mystery writer/murder suspect/future Lady Peter Wimsey (BBC, 1987)

It’s still Women’s History Month, so let’s talk about some of the seismic shifts for English women in the early decades of the 20th century. Since Victorian times, women had pushed for the right to a university education and the right to vote, but the first Oxford degrees for women weren’t formally granted until 1920, and the political franchise was limited and restricted until 1928.

The Great War had given women a taste of financial independence; in the immediate post-war years they also experienced a degree of sexual autonomy previously denied them. Younger women in particular enjoyed new social freedoms: the “flapper” of the ‘20s bobbed her hair, shortened her skirts, painted her face, chucked her corsets, and smoked in public — relatively superficial, though powerful, symbols of change.

During this time, Agatha Christie and Dorothy L. Sayers were becoming popular, critically acclaimed, and financially secure authors. Yet behind the scenes, both women had troubling secrets: Sayers gave birth in 1924 to an illegitimate son, sent him to be raised by a cousin, and never divulged his existence to her parents for the rest of their lives. (The public at large didn’t know until years after DLS’s own death.)

As for Christie, she famously disappeared for eleven days in December 1926. Was it simply a publicity stunt to sell more books? A way of punishing her adulterous husband by putting him under suspicion of murder? Or did she have a genuine case of amnesia? She never said. Theories abound, and you probably have your own ideas!

Christie and Sayers also both created countless memorable female characters as sleuths, suspects, villains, and victims, including — but certainly not limited to — Christie’s redoubtable Miss Jane Marple, Mrs Ariadne Oliver, and Countess Vera Rossakoff; and Sayers’ Harriet Vane, Miss Katherine Climpson, the amoral Mary Whittaker, and the pathetic Mrs Flora Weldon.

This is the splendid Joan Hickson in her most famous role as Agatha Christie’s elderly sleuth Miss Jane Marple in the BBC television series (1984-92).

I’d love to know who your own favourite female characters are — and why! — in the Christie and Sayers mysteries.

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Medium Cool – Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers, Part II

by WaterGirl|  March 12, 20237:00 pm| 75 Comments

This post is in: Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers, Books, Guest Posts, Medium Cool, Popular Culture, Culture as a Hedge Against This Soul-Sucking Political Miasma We're Living In

Medium Cool is a weekly series related to popular culture, mostly film, TV, and books, with some music and games thrown in.  We hope it’s a welcome break from the anger, hate, and idiocy we see almost daily from the other side in the political sphere.

Arguments welcomed, opinions respected, fools un-suffered.  We’re here every Sunday at 7 pm.

Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers, Part II

by Subaru Diane

Many thanks to everyone for such a thoughtful and lively thread two weeks ago! I hope we’ll keep the energy going tonight as we focus on World War I (aka the “Great War”), its immediate and lingering impacts on English life, and how Dorothy L. Sayers and Agatha Christie portrayed those war-induced social changes in their fiction.

Three-quarters of a million British men died in the Great War; twice as many returned home permanently damaged by battlefield wounds or the effects of poison gas or “shell shock” (PTSD). Sayers’s Lord Peter Wimsey was one of them.

Ian Carmichael as Lord Peter Wimsey. Wimsey’s urbanity masks a psyche damaged by his experiences as an officer in the First World War.

Additionally, about a quarter of a million Belgian refugees fled to Britain during the war — the largest ever single displacement of populations into the U.K. Christie’s Hercule Poirot was one of them.

David Suchet portraying Agatha Christie’s detective Hercule Poirot. Poirot fled to the U.K. as a refugee after Germany invaded his native Belgium, and stayed on through the following sixty years.

The Great War is a lingering presence in every one of the Wimsey novels — sometimes prominently, sometimes more fleetingly. But it is always there.

In most of her books, conversely, Christie seldom mentions the War or invokes it as a cause of the sweeping societal changes taking place.

What are your thoughts about the authors’ different ways of dealing with the Great War in their fiction?

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Medium Cool – Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers

by WaterGirl|  February 26, 20237:00 pm| 203 Comments

This post is in: Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers, Books, Guest Posts, Medium Cool, Popular Culture, Culture as a Hedge Against This Soul-Sucking Political Miasma We're Living In

Medium Cool is a weekly series related to popular culture, mostly film, TV, and books, with some music and games thrown in.  We hope it’s a welcome break from the anger, hate, and idiocy we see almost daily from the other side in the political sphere.

Arguments welcomed, opinions respected, fools un-suffered.  We’re here every Sunday at 7 pm.

Today’s Medium Cool is the beginning of a series on Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers, hosted by our very own SiubhanDuinne.

Medium Cool – Agatha Christie & Dorothy Sayers KEEP 1

The first photo of Dorothy L. Sayers (DLS) as a young woman, perhaps in her early 20s? She was born in 1893, so that would make it a WWI-era photo, perhaps taken when she was one of the early female students at Oxford (Somerville College).

The second photo is Agatha Christie (AC), taken around 1925. She was born in 1890, so that would make her about 35 when it was taken.

I’ll let Subaru Diane share the details, so I’ll just say that she is getting ready to teach a course on these talented female writers for an OLLI program, and she graciously agreed share some of her materials out on us.  I figure we’ll be part guinea pigs – in the best possible way – and part inspiration for her class.

So if this is of interest to you, mark your calendars – 6 sessions, including tonight: 2/26, 3/12, 3/26, 4/9, 4/23, and 5/7.

Tonight will be a general discussion of the authors and their books, against the backdrop of a rapidly-changing Britain.

And with that, I’ll turn it over to our beloved Mob Enforcer.

SiubhanDuinne

I’m preparing a course which I hope to teach fairly soon (via Zoom) through Emory University’s OLLI program (Osher Lifelong Learning Institute).

So far, I haven’t come up with a catchy title for the class — suggestions welcome!! — but the subject is SOCIAL CHANGE IN 20TH-CENTURY ENGLAND AS REFLECTED IN THE DETECTIVE FICTION OF AGATHA CHRISTIE (1890-1976) AND DOROTHY L. SAYERS (1893-1957).

As we’ve seen, there are a number of classic mystery fans here among the Medium Cool Jackaltariat.

Water Girl kindly suggested that, over a series of Sunday-evening posts, two or three weeks apart, I could share some of my plans for the OLLI course with you. I hope the idea generates a few lively discussions on these two extraordinary authors and the dizzying times they lived in and chronicled in their fiction. (Narrator: Subaru Dianne is going to shamelessly pick your brains for insights and felicitous phrasing.)

There’s bound to be some overlap among them, but I’d like to explore the following themes that crop up again and again in Sayers’ and Christie’s works — one Medium Cool at a time:

  • General discussion of the authors and their books, against the backdrop of a rapidly-changing Britain (tonight)
  • The Lingering and Pervasive Impact of World War One
  • The Changing Role of Women
  • Profound Shifts in England’s Entrenched Class System
  • Technology, Commerce, and Hedonism
  • Empire, Immigrants, Foreigners, Racism

Sayers and Christie began their careers over a century ago, so let’s not worry about plot spoilers in these threads!

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