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Extremely Open Thread: World On Fire

by Anne Laurie|  October 10, 20256:01 pm| 54 Comments

This post is in: Climate Change, Open Threads

We’re in the process of moving from the residential hotel where I’ve been posting for the last four months to a one-bedroom apartment on a six-month lease, so things right now are *fraught.* Especially since this post is being done on a phone hotspot wi-fi, and even when our apartment internet is turned on next week, it’ll be… Xfinity.

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Unrelated story, for a change of topic:

Los Angeles firefighters lacked enough resources and struggled to communicate clearly in the first 36 hours of January’s devastating Palisades Fire, according to a report released Wednesday by the fire department.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) October 8, 2025 at 8:28 PM


 
From the Atlantic, “A Surreal New Revelation About the L.A. Fires” [gift link]:

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The origin story of L.A.’s Palisades Fire, according to a criminal complaint announced yesterday, reads like a scene from an art-house film. Shortly before midnight on New Year’s Eve, a son of missionaries visits a scenic overlook near the Los Angeles coast. The clearing is known for the Buddha statues hikers leave behind in the hollowed-out stump of a power pole. The man listens to a French rap song about the malaise of modern life. Then, according to investigators, he starts a fire with an open flame, a combustible material, and malicious intent.

He dials 911 to report the fire, but his first few calls do not connect (presumably because this is coastal Los Angeles, and our cell service is terrible). He then begins screen-recording on his cellphone while he continues to dial 911. He asks ChatGPT if he might be criminally liable for starting a fire with cigarettes, possibly to cover up what he’s done. Then, the man films the flames on his iPhone as firefighters arrive.

By January 2, they determine that the fire is out. But it has in fact gone underground, smoldering in the root system of the hillside’s brush. Days later, strong winds travel from the desert to that same hillside and revive the blaze, which becomes the Palisades Fire. It levels more than 6,800 structures and kills 12 people. (Those structures included my childhood home, and those deaths included Arthur, a man who’d lived next door to that old house and whom I’d known and loved since I was born.)

The suspect is a 29-year-old Florida man named Jonathan Rinderknecht, and the case against him is one that could be made only in an era of AI. To help establish intent, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives turned to Rinderknecht’s conversations with ChatGPT—not just his cigarette question, but also an exchange from months earlier in which he asked ChatGPT to generate an image of a “burning forest” next to a crowd of people “running away from the fire.” OpenAI declined to specify whether the company had handed Rinderknecht’s chat logs over to the investigators; a spokesperson for OpenAI told The Atlantic only that “following the Palisades fire tragedy, we responded to standard law enforcement requests related to this individual.” It was standard in the sense that tech companies comply with requests relating to criminal investigations all the time. But for an investigation to rely to this degree on a conversation with a large language model is new. The allure of a chatbot is that it’s a machine that will process your most private thoughts without judgment. Now it seems that those conversations can appear before a judge and jury. (A public defender for Florida’s Middle District told the Associated Press that the evidence against Rinderknecht is circumstantial; the public defender’s office did not immediately return my request for comment.)…

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Wednesday Morning Open Thread: Positive News

by Anne Laurie|  July 30, 202510:29 am| 33 Comments

This post is in: How about that weather?, Open Threads, Science & Technology

According to a Navy spokesperson I spoke with, the 11th hour decision to keep data flowing from the three weather satellites was due to critical feedback it received. A testament that our voices and concerns do very much matter. My full afternoon update ??

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— Michael Lowry (@michaelrlowry.bsky.social) July 29, 2025 at 4:34 PM

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Today's earthquake east–southeast of Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Russia is now estimated to be magnitude 8.8.
The white dots in this pic are the historic quakes in the region, along the Pacific plate as it subducts under the North American plate.
This quake is the most powerful on Earth since 2011.

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— Paul Byrne (@theplanetaryguy.bsky.social) July 29, 2025 at 9:58 PM

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The energy released in a M8.7 quake is equivalent to that of a 169 megatonne nuclear weapon

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— Paul Byrne (@theplanetaryguy.bsky.social) July 29, 2025 at 8:36 PM

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Japan downgrades its last remaining tsunami alert but tsunami advisories remain in place for its Pacific coast. Follow AP's live updates.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) July 30, 2025 at 8:08 AM

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Honestly, this 8.8-mag quake and tsunami seems a fabulous demonstration of the capabilities that the US, Japan, and others have marshalled to protect their citizens.
This doesn't just exist. It has to be built and maintained.

— Paul Voosen (@voosen.me) July 30, 2025 at 7:01 AM

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Monday Morning Open Thread: How *About* That Weather?

by Anne Laurie|  July 14, 20256:24 am| 138 Comments

This post is in: How about that weather?, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

Emergency crews have suspended their search for victims of catastrophic flooding in central Texas amid new warnings that additional rain will again cause waterways to surge.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) July 13, 2025 at 1:15 PM

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Armies of Texan volunteers are leading flood recovery and cleanup, supplementing official efforts even as more flooding hits and the search for the missing continues.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) July 14, 2025 at 2:00 AM

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Noem lays down a marker: 'the best we've seen out of FEMA.' Mainstream media ought to take up the challenge and do some serious compare/ contrast about FEMA responses. Here's a good place to start: The Biden admin pre-positioning of resources BEFORE Hurricane Helene hit vs Noem's Texas efforts.

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— @NewsJennifer (Jennifer Schulze) (@newsjennifer.bsky.social) July 13, 2025 at 10:49 AM

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California is proud to help Texas in this moment of crisis.

Tragedy tests us — how we come together to help communities recover defines us. https://t.co/pKtiFbps82

— Governor Gavin Newsom (@CAgovernor) July 12, 2025

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President Trump has so far withheld federal relief funds, with many arguing that California Gov. Gavin Newsom and other Democrats in the deep-blue state have mishandled the fires and should be forced to rescind liberal policies in exchange for aid.

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— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost.com) July 9, 2025 at 7:33 PM

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FEMA Acting Administrator David Richardson finally visited Texas Hill Country today more than a week after the deadly floods.
Photos posted on X and Reddit show Richardson there, and I’ve confirmed via the FEMA daily internal brief.

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— Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) July 12, 2025 at 11:44 PM


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at one point he wore a jaunty hat

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— Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) July 12, 2025 at 11:46 PM

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The DOD is halting a critical atmospheric data collection program—the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program—at the end of June. They've given weather forecasters just days to prepare,
Hurricane season is upon us. In days we'll be "blind," hurricane experts are saying.

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— Fiona "Fi" Webster ?????? (@fiona-webster22.bsky.social) July 12, 2025 at 10:30 AM

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As someone put it quite well:
1.) It is very, very hard to actually blow up the american economy, even with everything. Even the major financial crises we weathered significantly better than other countries.
2.) No one has really ever pulled every single fucking "blow it all up" lever all at once

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) July 9, 2025 at 6:07 PM

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The Ongoing Texas Tragedies

by Anne Laurie|  July 12, 20258:32 am| 224 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., How about that weather?, Republican Venality

BREAKING: FEMA removed dozens of Camp Mystic buildings from their 100-year flood map in Texas in response to appeals.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) July 12, 2025 at 7:33 AM

Federal regulators repeatedly granted appeals to remove Camp Mystic’s buildings from their 100-year flood map, loosening oversight as the camp operated and expanded in a dangerous flood plain in the years before rushing waters swept away children and counselors, a review by The Associated Press found.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency included the prestigious girls’ summer camp in a “Special Flood Hazard Area” in its National Flood Insurance map for Kerr County in 2011, which means it was required to have flood insurance and faced tighter regulation on any future construction projects…

Located in a low-lying area along the Guadalupe River in a region known as flash flood alley, Camp Mystic lost at least 27 campers and counselors and longtime owner Dick Eastland when historic floodwaters tore through its property before dawn on July 4…

In response to an appeal, FEMA in 2013 amended the county’s flood map to remove 15 of the camp’s buildings from the hazard area. Records show that those buildings were part of the 99-year-old Camp Mystic Guadalupe, which was devastated by last week’s flood.

After further appeals, FEMA removed 15 more Camp Mystic structures in 2019 and 2020 from the designation. Those buildings were located on nearby Camp Mystic Cypress Lake, a sister site that opened to campers in 2020 as part of a major expansion and suffered less damage in the flood.

Campers have said the cabins at Cypress Lake withstood significant damage, but those nicknamed “the flats” at the Guadalupe River camp were inundated.

Experts say Camp Mystic’s requests to amend the FEMA map could have been an attempt to avoid the requirement to carry flood insurance, to lower the camp’s insurance premiums or to pave the way for renovating or adding new structures under less costly regulations…

conservatism means the government doesn’t have to tell me when i am about to die

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— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) July 11, 2025 at 11:32 AM

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Officials in Texas are facing questions about whether they did enough to get people out of harm’s way before a flash flood swept down the Guadalupe River and killed at least 120 people. The AP has assembled an approximate timeline of the events before, during and after the deadly flash flood.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) July 11, 2025 at 8:00 PM

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this talking point keeps showing up and that’s fine except there is also no evidence that anybody timely told anybody to shelter in place

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— post malone ergo propter malone (@proptermalone.bsky.social) July 11, 2025 at 11:31 AM

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"At 4:22am on Friday, as Texas' Hill Country began to flood, a firefighter in Ingram – just upstream from Kerrville – asked the Kerr County Sheriff's Office to alert nearby residents. But Kerr County officials took nearly six hours to heed this call."

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) July 10, 2025 at 10:50 AM

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A review of transcripts since 2016 from Kerr County’s governing body offers a peek into a county paralyzed by competing interests: to make one of the country’s most dangerous regions for flash flooding safer and to heed to near calls from constituents to reduce property taxes and government waste.

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— Texas Tribune (@texastribune.org) July 10, 2025 at 7:02 PM

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www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/p…

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— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) July 9, 2025 at 6:32 PM


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Gutting government services kills people www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/c…

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— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjsdc.bsky.social) July 11, 2025 at 8:02 PM

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You know something has gone bad when the government spokesperson says, please don’t use my name …
“Asked for comment, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security who declined to be identified…”
www.nytimes.com/2025/07/11/c…

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— Bill Grueskin (@bgrueskin.bsky.social) July 11, 2025 at 7:44 PM

Gift link:

… The lack of responsiveness happened because the agency had fired hundreds of contractors at call centers, according to a person briefed on the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity in order to discuss internal matters.

The agency laid off the contractors on July 5 after their contracts expired and were not extended, according to the documents and the person briefed on the matter. Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, who has instituted a new requirement that she personally approve expenses over $100,000, did not renew the contracts until Thursday, five days after the contracts expired. FEMA is part of the Department of Homeland Security.

The details on the unanswered calls on July 6, which have not been previously reported, come as FEMA faces intense scrutiny over its response to the floods in Texas that have killed more than 120 people. The agency, which President Trump has called for eliminating, has been slow to activate certain teams that coordinate response and search-and-rescue efforts.

Asked for comment, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security who declined to be identified wrote in an email, “When a natural disaster strikes, phone calls surge, and wait times can subsequently increase. Despite this expected influx, FEMA’s disaster call center responded to every caller swiftly and efficiently, ensuring no one was left without assistance.”…

On July 5, as floodwaters were starting to recede, FEMA received 3,027 calls from disaster survivors and answered 3,018, or roughly 99.7 percent, the documents show. Contractors with four call center companies answered the vast majority of the calls.

That evening, however, Ms. Noem did not renew the contracts with the four companies and hundreds of contractors were fired, according to the documents and the person briefed on the matter.

The next day, July 6, FEMA received 2,363 calls and answered 846, or roughly 35.8 percent, according to the documents. And on Monday, July 7, the agency fielded 16,419 calls and answered 2,613, or around 15.9 percent, the documents show…

Texas was devastated by deadly floods. In the aftermath, FEMA Acting Administrator David Richardson is nowhere to be found. In any other administration, this would be an epic scandal. But with Trump, it's treated as business as usual.
Read my latest:

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— Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) July 10, 2025 at 10:34 AM

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"Cruz inserted language into the reconciliation bill that eliminates a $150m fund to 'accelerate advances & improvements in research, observation systems, modeling, forecasting, and dissemination of info to the public' around weather forecasting." https://t.co/DiUBJ2BMDK

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 11, 2025

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This, uh, this is not a good statement for him.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) July 11, 2025 at 4:27 PM

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Trump on critics of the flood response: "These are people that have taken a pounding, a beating … 'it's Trump's fault' … the weather service here, they were actually well stocked … the money was tremendous. Everything was there … this is just something that happens."

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) July 11, 2025 at 5:02 PM

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I think people underrate how serious this thing in Texas could turn out being for them. With Noem requiring all approvals for FEMA funds to go through, and the fact that she spends way too much time being Nazi Barbie, you have a bottleneck that is going to dramatically slow down federal assistance

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) July 11, 2025 at 5:21 PM


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Like, there is so much political hay that will be made from Trump's idiotic statements and his administrations attempt to destroy FEMA, but it's gonna start having massive real world consequences for people in a big hurry.
A note that it was Katrina that really sunk W.

— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) July 11, 2025 at 5:21 PM

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The Texas Flood Tragedies Continue

by Anne Laurie|  July 9, 202510:22 am| 101 Comments

This post is in: Economics, How about that weather?, Republican Venality

Hope of finding survivors of the catastrophic flooding in Texas is dimming a day after the death toll surpassed 100.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) July 8, 2025 at 1:00 PM

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As heartbreaking news continues to emerge from central Texas, @chastenbuttigieg.bsky.social and I are thinking of everyone affected and grateful for the extraordinary work of first responders.
Here are some ways all of us can help:

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— Pete Buttigieg (@petebuttigieg.bsky.social) July 7, 2025 at 10:11 AM

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Sometimes calls for prayer are sincere and sometimes they are an argument: a claim that this is God’s fault and our choices and policies have nothing to do with it.

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— Popehat’s Interests First (@kenwhite.bsky.social) July 6, 2025 at 10:37 AM

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*Taking* blame, NYT. Taking.

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— Jacob T. Levy (@jacobtlevy.bsky.social) July 8, 2025 at 9:48 AM

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well, you do if there's a fucking wolf

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— Philip Bump (@pbump.com) July 7, 2025 at 11:30 AM

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Texas inspectors signed off on Camp Mystic’s emergency planning two days before flooding killed more than two dozen people at the summer camp.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) July 8, 2025 at 8:11 PM

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Staff at FEMA haven't received any internal communications from the agency or department leadership since the deadly floods in Texas, which is unheard of in the wake of a major disaster.
Acting Administrator David Richardson is "nowhere to be found."

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— Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) July 8, 2025 at 9:42 AM


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I've reviewed a copy of today's FEMA daily briefing and the numbers are damning.
Surge Capacity Force is activated when considered a "catastrophic disaster" response. The TX floods have not been classified as such, though that may change with rain/thunderstorms in the national weather forecast.

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— Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) July 8, 2025 at 11:13 AM


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"The decision to leave added to the mounting accounts of how camps & residents in the area say they were left to make their own decisions in the absence of warnings or notifications from the county."
This is the result of allowing American hyper-individualism to influence how we govern—it's deadly.

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— Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social) July 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM

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Texas found $11 billion for troops and razor wire at the border and migrant buses, even with oil-billionaire tax cuts. But its coffers went dry for warning sirens to confront a climate crisis it claims is made up
How Texas flood exposed warped priorities. My column www.inquirer.com/columnists/a…

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— Will Bunch (@willbunch.bsky.social) July 9, 2025 at 7:48 AM

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remember how with Uvalde the day-of actions by the people supposed to act in a crisis kept looking worse and worse and worse and worse the more we learned?

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— post malone ergo propter malone (@proptermalone.bsky.social) July 6, 2025 at 6:17 PM


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"Its God's fault we sent those emergency notifications when most of the people who needed to see them were fast asleep"
~ Trump's press secretary takes "passing the buck" to a whole new level by passing it all the way to the throne of God

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— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) July 7, 2025 at 4:53 PM

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www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/f…

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— Mia Farrow (@miafarrow.bsky.social) July 7, 2025 at 7:14 PM

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California has deployed an additional 18 Urban Search and Rescue Team members to Texas to assist with ongoing response efforts related to severe flooding impacts.
The scale of devastation Texas is experiencing right now is unfathomable, and we're proud to lend a helping hand.

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— Governor Gavin Newsom (@governor.ca.gov) July 8, 2025 at 5:36 PM

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Central Texas is one of the most dangerous regions in the U.S. for flash flooding. Here’s why. via @texaspublicradio.bsky.social

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— NPR (@npr.org) July 6, 2025 at 5:09 PM

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He's correct. However, the statement will lead to the idea that NWS wasn't able to handle working this event, and that's untrue because they did and they did it remarkably well.
Let's staff up the WFOs and focus on saving FEMA!

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— altNOAA ???? (@altnoaa.bsky.social) July 6, 2025 at 2:07 PM

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DOGE considered @noaa.gov & the @nws.noaa.gov
to be “waste fraud and abuse.” FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency is next.
MAGA – serious question. Do you still think they care about you?
The cruelty & lack of humanity are abundantly obvious.

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— TizzyWoman (@tizzywoman.bsky.social) July 6, 2025 at 11:52 AM

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There were a lot of folks here insisting yesterday that weather service cuts had no impact on Texas flood deaths. There’s zero way you can draw conclusions like hours later. Important follow up here. www.nytimes.com/2025/07/05/u…

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— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm.bsky.social) July 6, 2025 at 8:56 AM


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Another big issue is that Kerr County didn't have a flood warning system:

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— Jonathan Gilligan (@jgilligan.org) July 5, 2025 at 11:22 PM


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When you live somewhere and disaster strikes, it makes no sense to pretend it isn’t personal. For me, there’s no other way to process terrible things than to make journalism. To my friends from home who went to Camp Mystic and Heart O' the Hills — this is for you.
thebarbedwire.com/2025/07/05/c…

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— Olivia Messer (@oliviamesser.bsky.social) July 5, 2025 at 7:58 PM

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Do you have any idea how many children are in America, the liberal media never highlights all the ones who don’t die

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— Popehat’s Interests First (@kenwhite.bsky.social) July 6, 2025 at 10:20 AM


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yeah as a note the whole disaster declaration he signed that everyone effusively praised him for?
they want to get rid of that. Just block grant to the states and call it good.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) July 6, 2025 at 5:35 PM

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I can't (nor do I want to) imagine the pain of losing a child. But if my child died I would want to know who was at fault for their death and want those people prosecuted to the fullest extend of the law so no other family suffers the same unbearable pain.

— Dean Obeidallah (@deanobeidallah.bsky.social) July 5, 2025 at 10:54 PM

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The price of tax cuts for the wealthy? Our lives. #Texas

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— Center for Economic and Policy Research (@ceprdc.bsky.social) July 7, 2025 at 5:10 PM

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Chuck Todd suffers from terminal bothsiderism.
Texas has been under GOP control for the past 30 years.

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— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) July 7, 2025 at 11:23 PM

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Extremists, right-wing influencers and GOP lawmakers spent the days after the tragic Texas floods pushing conspiracies about "weather weapons."
On Sunday, a weather radar system was vandalized and one extremist group is taking credit
with @mollytaft.com
www.wired.com/story/texas-…

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— David Gilbert (@davidgilbert.bsky.social) July 8, 2025 at 6:07 PM

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Still Grim in Texas and It’s Only Getting Worse

by WaterGirl|  July 6, 20252:05 pm| 149 Comments

This post is in: Climate Change, Open Threads

Update at 4:27 pm

I have added our thermometer for World Central Kitchen to the sidebar.

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I know this is hitting Subaru Diane hard, and I know we have a lot of BJ peeps from Texas.  Love and hugs to all of you and to all these communities that are suffering an almost unimaginable loss.

Still Grim in Texas and It's Only Getting Worse

I hate to link to the NYT but they seem to have the most complete coverage, and it’s not behind a paywall, so here we go.

Desperate Search for Missing in Texas Floods as Death Toll Rises to 70

11 girls from the summer camp are still missing, and the weather forecast includes more rain and possible flash flooding in other parts of Texas.

Hundreds of searchers were combing wide swathes of Central Texas on Sunday morning looking for any survivors of devastating floods, including girls still missing from a riverside summer camp, as the confirmed death toll climbed to at least 70 and forecasters warned that downpours would continue in areas already reeling.

Eleven campers and one counselor from Camp Mystic, the girls’ summer camp in Kerr County, remained missing on Sunday, according to Larry Leitha, the county sheriff. The sheriff also said that 22 of those found dead had not yet been identified, including four children.

Of course, the media wasn’t conveying concerns about flash flooding in TX until this ghoulish incident occurred, and now they are all over it, which makes me sick, but that’s the way most of the media works.

Also, of course, they are busy playing the blame game.

Crucial positions at the local offices of the National Weather Service were unfilled as severe rainfall inundated parts of Central Texas on Friday morning, prompting some experts to question whether staffing shortages made it harder for the forecasting agency to coordinate with local emergency managers as floodwaters rose.

Texas officials appeared to blame the Weather Service for issuing forecasts on Wednesday that underestimated how much rain was coming. But former Weather Service officials said the forecasts were as good as could be expected, given the enormous levels of rainfall and the storm’s unusually abrupt escalation.

I’m sure it’s too early to politicize this horrible event, but this is what happens when you slash and burn the government entities that keep us safe, on so many levels.

It’s impossible not to feel for these families and these communicates.  At the same time, I wonder if this would be getting the same traction if it were a summer camp for the kids of migrant workers.  Actually, I don’t wonder at all.  I’m sure the coverage would be a combination of “oh well, these things happen” and ” they were irresponsible.

I have been kind of assuming that everyone who is missing at this point will likely not be found alive, yet there’s a story about a woman who was rescued after the flash flooding “swept” her 20 miles down the Guadalupe River.

Woman rescued after flash floods swept her 20 miles down the Guadalupe River.  Holy shit, with a trauma like that I wonder if she will ever be the same.  It makes me think about Raven’s friends who were caught in one of the terrible fires and finally ditched one of their vehicles as they were trying to get out, all but certain that they would die and they at least wanted to be together when it happened.  I am still haunted by that.

And I’m guessing that this disaster will bring another wave of grieving for people who have been through recent disasters and lost everything.  I am thinking of our BJ peeps who have lived through trauma in the past year.

Hugs to everyone.

Open thread.

Still Grim in Texas and It’s Only Getting WorsePost + Comments (149)

More on The Flooding in Texas

by Anne Laurie|  July 5, 20254:30 pm| 166 Comments

This post is in: How about that weather?, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

UPDATE: Flash flooding slammed the Texas Hill Country overnight on Friday. At least 27 girls from a summer camp next to the Guadalupe River remain missing.

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— NPR (@npr.org) July 5, 2025 at 11:58 AM

I’ve been working on this post for a couple of hours, but I guess WaterGirl didn’t see my draft…

Multiple deaths have been reported in Texas and rescue efforts are underway as flash flooding threatens communities.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) July 4, 2025 at 1:21 PM

Texas officials blame local weather prediction services for not predicting the devastating flooding that has now killed at least 24 Texans.

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— Aaron Parnas (@aaronparnas.bsky.social) July 5, 2025 at 10:23 AM

There have been claims that NOAA/NWS did not foresee catastrophic TX floods–but that's simply not true. This was undoubtedly an extreme event, but messaging rapidly escalated beginning ~12 hrs prior. Flood Watch mid PM, "heads up" outlook late PM, flash flood warnings ~1am.

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— Daniel Swain (@weatherwest.bsky.social) July 5, 2025 at 11:50 AM

As always, this is not to blame the victims! Quite the opposite; this truly was a sudden & massive event and occurred at worst possible time (middle of the night). But problem, once again, was not a bad weather prediction: it was one of “last mile” forecast/warning dissemination.

I am not aware of the details surrounding staffing levels at the local NWS offices involved, nor how that might have played into timing/sequence of warnings involved. But I do know that locations that flooded catastrophically had at least 1-2+ hours of direct warning from NWS.

One thing I do know is that this part of TX Hill Country is (in)famous for sudden and violent flood risk; that’s an intrinsic product of being a hilly region with “flashy” watersheds subject to occasional but very extreme precipitation events arising from bathtub-warm Gulf.

I’m not really clear on why a region so well known for its severe flash flood susceptibly apparently did not have a better warning system in place. That’s something I’m sure others with better local knowledge can dissect in greater detail.

But this does illustrate a few tragic and uncomfortable truths. The first is that even quite good weather forecasts do not automatically translate into life-saving predictions–there’s a lot of other work that has to take place to contextualize the forecast and ensure it gets to right people.

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The second is that the NWS historically has done a very good job at that forecast contextualization (outreach to local governments, emergency managers, outdoor recreation facilities, etc.). But that’s one of the first things to go away when offices are critically understaffed.

The third is that this kind of record-shattering rain (caused by slow-moving torrential thunderstorms) event is *precisely* that which is increasing the fastest in warming climate. So it’s not a question of whether climate change played a role–it’s only a question of how much.

The fourth is that *exact* location and intensity localized to regional-scale convective storms (i.e., clusters of intense thunderstorms) are something that, in almost all cases, cannot be pinpointed days in advance with extant predictive tools–even in theory.

That means that while predictions can correctly highlight specific regions at high risk of extreme rainfall/flash floods from such events (as was the case here), it’s not possible to predict the exact amount of rain at specific points from t-storm downpours so far in advance.

Predicting such storms is at the cutting edge of science right now, and the stakes are rising in a warming world in which they are intensifying. Yet this is precisely the kind of research that NOAA/NSF have funded in the U.S. over decades that is at imminent risk of disappearing.

Additionally, some of NOAA’s very high resolution convective-resolving models (designed specifically for this purpose) were the ones that best predicted this incipient disaster. Yet these very same models are on the chopping block this year with the proposed NOAA budget.

All of this is to say: I think it’s simply untrue to say this is a story about how the NWS somehow made a bad prediction or did not issue timely warnings in this case–that’s just demonstrably untrue. The more proximal causes of the tragedy are otherwise. But…

But there are clear intersections between flood disaster in TX & ongoing conversations surrounding federal budget & massive cuts to NWS operations & NOAA/NASA/NSF weather/climate research–precisely at a moment in which we are seeing more events like this due to climate change.

Trump’s DOGE Cuts Are a Texas-Sized Disaster
#RepublicansKillAmericans
www.texasobserver.org/trump-texas-…

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— Thomas Keepout (@thomasworking.bsky.social) July 5, 2025 at 3:12 PM

… It is not exactly breaking news that Texas is vulnerable to extreme weather, with recent hurricanes and wildfires fresh in mind, nor is the well-documented effect of a warming climate in magnifying severe weather. Just look to the growing count of billion-dollar natural disasters (severe storms, drought, flood, wildfires, severe cold). For example, from 2020 to 2024 Texas suffered 68 of these costly events, with Florida second at 34.

By upending the federal status quo around disaster relief, states like Texas could be left without a paddle. The largest federal program directed to the threat is Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) disaster aid, followed by companion assistance for damaged homes from the Department of Housing and Urban Development and help for impacted businesses from the Small Business Administration. A breakout by state of aid from these federal agencies since 2017 shows that Texas and Florida, each receiving about $18 billion, account for almost a third of the 50-state total.

DOGE already cut roughly 20 percent of FEMA’s staff and moved to freeze its funds. And Donald Trump has repeatedly signaled his interest in shifting disaster relief responsibilities entirely to the states. On June 11, he made that threat more concrete by saying that his administration would start phasing out FEMA after this current hurricane season ends in November. “We want to wean off of FEMA, and we want to bring it down to the state level,” Trump said. “A governor should be able to handle it, and frankly, if they can’t handle it, the aftermath, then maybe they shouldn’t be governor.”

That, of course, would be bad news for Texas, where Republican leaders routinely play politics with disaster response and relief. Further warming in response to continuing greenhouse emissions ensures that the cost of climate change-augmented storms, floods, and wildfires will only increase with Texans prominent among the victims…

The state has developed some ambitious plans for its vulnerable coastline, the most prominent investment being the Galveston Bay Storm Surge Barrier System, better known as the Ike Dike. It would be carried out by the U.S. Corps of Engineers in coordination with the Gulf Coast Protection District (GCPD), which the state created in 2021 to implement coastal resilience projects. The price tag of that project is huge. In 2021 the Corps estimated that it would cost $34 billion, which would make it the agency’s most expensive project ever. But only two years later that estimate had risen to $57 billion, and whenever the project is ultimately funded the cost will surely be higher…

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— George Conway 👊🇺🇸🔥 (@gtconway.bsky.social) July 5, 2025 at 1:55 PM

MAGA having a real normal one in response to the tragic flooding in Texas

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— MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.com) July 5, 2025 at 2:07 PM

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