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Saturday Morning Open Thread: Rebuilding the Cathedral of Notre Dame

by Anne Laurie|  December 7, 20246:38 am| 118 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Religion, Something Good Open Thread

The whole of Western society has enjoyed this transformation–more or less–over the past 50 years, thanks to anti-pollution efforts & the marginalization of cigarette smoking. But we are apparently blind to all the ways our lives are better than they've ever been before

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— Chatham Harrison is tending his garden (@chathamharrison.bsky.social) December 5, 2024 at 6:06 PM

Notre Dame's reopening will begin with an archbishop's knock on the doors. Here's what comes next

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— Associated Press ?? (@asssociatedpress.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 12:23 AM

The reopening this weekend of Notre Dame is a succession of ceremonies to breathe life back into the iconic cathedral and celebrate the recovery from its devastating fire in 2019.

Forecasts of stormy winds forced a late change in plans Friday, moving all of Saturday’s events indoors. Still, the weekend’s high points are expected to be the ritualized reopening of the cathedral’s massive doors, the reawakening of its thunderous organ and the celebration of the first Mass. For both France and the Catholic Church, the televised and tightly scripted ceremonies will be an opportunity to display can-do resilience and global influence…

During part one of Notre Dame’s rebirth on Saturday evening [2pm EST], Archbishop Laurent Ulrich will lead more than 1,500 guests through a reopening service. Part two, on Sunday, is an inaugural Mass, with special rites to consecrate the main altar.

On Saturday, Ulrich will first reopen Notre Dame’s great doors — by tapping them with his crosier, or bishop’s staff.

The staff was created for the occasion by designer Sylvain Dubuisson. The wood — bearing visible black traces from the blaze — came from pieces of the cathedral roof that collapsed in the inferno, Dubuisson told The Associated Press.

In response to the archbishop’s door-knocks, the cathedral will erupt into song, its choirs once again filling the cavernous spaces.

That back-and-forth will happen three times and the doors will then open…

The voice of Notre Dame’s great organ hasn’t been heard in public since the blaze coated the nearly 8,000 pipes with toxic dust released when the lead roofing burned.

After the door-opening rites, Ulrich will reawaken the giant instrument. He’ll address it directly with a series of eight incantations, starting with “Awaken, organ, sacred instrument: Sing the praise of God.”

That prompt will launch a conversation with the organ, with four organists (Olivier Latry, Vincent Dubois, Thibault Fajoles and Thierry Escaich) taking turns to play its responses.

They’ll be perched high above the congregation, seated at the newly renovated giant console that controls the instrument — through five keyboards of 56 notes each, foot pedals for 30 notes, and 115 stops…

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The organ has a vast palette of sounds to play with. The deepest of its 7,952 pipes are as large as a human torso, producing a low rumbling sound. The smallest are no larger than a pen.

The painstaking re-tuning of the organ — after it was dismantled, cleaned and put back together — took around six months, with tuners working at night so they could tweak the notes in silence…

At the reopening, billionaire donors from France and beyond will rub shoulders with other guests far less fortunate.

They’ll include “the poorest among Parisians, all those who are helped by charitable associations and who will be several hundred inside the cathedral,” Rev. Olivier Ribadeau Dumas, Notre Dame’s rector, told AP…

Notre Dame in full bling mode this evening….

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— Nazish Munch (@nazishmunch.bsky.social) December 5, 2024 at 1:31 PM

Inside the restored Notre Dame cathedral – in pictures www.theguardian.com/world/galler…

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— Greg Jenner (@gregjenner.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 8:42 AM

Notre Dame review – glorious resurrection is as close to time travel as it gets

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— The Guardian (@theguardian.com) December 6, 2024 at 8:19 AM

… The herculean project has seen 2,000 oak trees gathered from forests across France, hewn into beams with axes and pegged into great trusses by hand using medieval tools. It has witnessed over a thousand cubic metres of limestone being hauled into place, chiselled into leaping arches and gurning gargoyles, as well as 4,000 square metres of lead, rolled, crimped and moulded into ornamental roofing. It has also been the stage for a celebrity wallet-waving spectacle, seeing French luxury goods billionaires racing to outdo each other in the size of their donations – reaching almost €900m (£749m) just two days after the fire, endowing the cathedral with a substantial maintenance kitty for years to come.

The astonishing and lavishly funded endeavour has been a lifeline for endangered craftsmanship, single-handedly reviving a host of specialist building industries across France and beyond. The project mobilised a 2,000-strong army of master masons, carpenters, roofers, glassworkers, organ restorers and painting conservators, many using centuries-old techniques. This elaborate medieval cosplay has returned the majestic pile to just the way it was before the 2019 fire – only cleaner, brighter and more colourful than ever.

“Even more beautiful than before,” is how Macron describes it, “in the renewed radiance of the blond stones and the colour of the chapels.” It’s a surreal sight. The seamless surfaces of creamy stonework have been bleached of their centuries of sooty patina, now looking as if they have been carved from a single slab of butter. The painted side chapels glow with the blazing Technicolor and gilding of a Las Vegas casino. The result might feel too Disneyish for those who prefer their cathedrals aged and timeworn, but the effect is as close to time-travel as it comes, as if the medieval guilds had just left the building.

As crowds gather outside to gawp up at the freshly carved tracery and gleaming leadwork, however, they might not be aware that the most radical part of the entire project is actually right beneath their feet. The biggest impact on Paris will not be found in the rebuilt forêt of oak hidden away in the attic, or the ornamental rooftop cresting, but in how the fire has provided a catalyst to rethink the surrounding area as a model for climate-friendly public space on an increasingly scorching planet…

With an eye on Paris’s wider urban greening efforts, which have been a chief hallmark of socialist mayor Anne Hidalgo’s tenure, the project will also act as a laboratory for future landscaping work elsewhere in the city. While the main plaza will see an existing avenue of horse chestnut trees extended along the street, encouraging people to take a full circuit around the cathedral, a former car parking area to the east will become an experimental arboretum of different species.

“We imagine it as a living climatic laboratory,” says Smets, “to see how well different trees perform over time.” After the city’s plane trees suffered from beetle infestations, and others have been stricken by drought, the pressure is on to determine which varieties will thrive in the rapidly changing climate. “This is such an important, symbolic site,” he adds. “But it is also an opportunity to reimagine public space as a way to create a better outdoor microclimate – looking to the past to inform the city of the future.”

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War for Ukraine Day 1,017: A Brief Friday Night Update

by Adam L Silverman|  December 6, 20247:55 pm| 19 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

A quick housekeeping note: I have now progressed to the inevitable sinus infection. I’ve got the first dose of the antibiotics in, but my head feels like it’s in a vice and I feel munky funky! I’m going to just run through a few basics and then go and get horizontal before my system does an involuntary reset.

There are a couple of items that I want to highlight that came up last night in the comments. First, I am very much in agreement with Gin & Tonic’s remark that what we’re seeing in Georgia is reminiscent of the EuroMaidan movement/Revolution of Dignity in Ukraine. This is one of the reasons I’m including information about what is happening in Georgia in the updates right now. The other gets to Jay’s answer to YY_Sima Qian, which is the reason things have gotten to where they are in Georgia is that a Russian aligned Georgian oligarch basically bought himself a political party and then a governing coalition. Which is another reason I’m including information regarding events in Georgia in these updates.

There is no address from President Zelenskyy posted as of 7:30 PM EST.

“Drone-missile ‘Peklo’. Our, Ukrainian weapon, which already has confirmed combat use. Today, the first batch was transferred to our Defense Forces. Now the task is to increase production and use.” – Zelenskiy

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— 🦋Special Kherson Cat🐈🇺🇦 (@specialkhersoncat.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 7:39 AM

Today is (was) Saint Nicholas Day in Ukraine.

Sviatyi Mykolai (Saint Nicholas) brings hope to a land at war, where even the smallest act of kindness becomes a miracle. As our Armed Forces fight for freedom, today is a day to believe in good — and perhaps, to be someone’s quiet miracle.

Art by Nikita Titov

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 4:07 AM

That didn’t stop the Russians from bombarding the Ukrainians.

UPD Zaporizhzhia. Nine civilians killed and six injured.
#UkrainianView

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 12:35 PM

Russia struck Kryvyi Rih with a ballistic missile, killing at least 2 people and injuring at least 8 others, including a 6-year-old child.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 10:48 AM

More after the jump.

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Georgia:

#Georgia

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— Dr. Anna 🇺🇦🩺⚓️ (@drannapirates.bsky.social) December 4, 2024 at 9:44 AM

More of the armed Titushky photos.
#terrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 6:44 PM

One of the Titushky (regime thugs) that confronted the people at the embankment was armed. He later left. #terrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProstests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 6:24 PM

The Titushky were armed, plainclothes mercenaries that supporting Yanukovych’s security services in Ukraine. They’d embed inside protest, stir up trouble that the legitimate protestors would be blamed for, crack heads, etc.

JUST IN: the screaming mother later said her son is epileptic but the police didn’t take this into consideration. And, the crime of the boy was that he attended the protest. In the video below, we see the police just came after people exiting! #TerrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 5:29 PM

People randomly attacked and detained as they LEAVE for home. This is the only available exit at the moment. Watch till the end. At previous protests, the objective was to disperse protests. Now it’s vengeance for participation. Short video due to limit. #TerrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests
📷 Publika

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 5:10 PM

And they thought the fireworks were over. As @jelgerg.bsky.social pointed out, the regime is back at square 1. #TerrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests
📷 I took from Visionergeo

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 4:47 PM

The Russian regime policeman got his tooshie kicked. #TerrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 4:33 PM

More on Georgian women being savage freedom fighters. #TerrorinGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests
📷 Nino Ordenidze

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 4:22 PM

She was detained!

— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 4:22 PM

People in Batumi are performing the Georgian martial dance with the flags of Georgia and the EU. Demanding the illegitimate regime schedule new free and fair elections and an end to the violence. #TerrorInGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests
📷 Lela Putkaradze

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 3:32 PM

“Georgia! Georgia!” – we demand new free and fair elections and an end to the violence. Day 9. #TerrorInGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests
📷 Lado Nafetvaridze

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 1:56 PM

Endless crowds again, on day 9, demanding the resignation of the regime they deem illegitimate, new free and fair elections, and an end of terror and violence. #TerrorInGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests
📷 Bachana Sajaia

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 1:22 PM

People kicked the regime police out of metro stations where they had arrived to search through backpacks (and arrest more people over protective gas masks and goggles).
Protests underway in other cities again. #TerrorInGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 1:56 PM

By Transparency International-Georgia. #TerrorInGeorgia #GeorgiaProtests

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— Marika Mikiashvili 🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺 (@marikamikiashvili.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 1:16 PM

History may not repeat, but it is continuing to rhyme.

Romania:

Romania’s top constitutional court has annulled the country’s presidential election, after security services warned a mass Russia-style influence campaign had distorted the vote.

— WarTranslated (Dmitri) (@wartranslated.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 8:48 AM

Kyiv:

Christmas time Kyiv right now.

Screw you, Putin.

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— Illia Ponomarenko (@ioponomarenko.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 10:29 AM

Kharkiv:

It’s Saint Nicholas Day in Ukraine—a day of hope and warmth, even with more Russian bombs hitting our cities. Kharkiv’s spirit still shines through

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— Maria Avdeeva (@mariainkharkiv.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 5:07 PM

Kharkiv shines✨

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 1:43 PM

Kharkiv today 🎄
Fuck russia

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 10:47 AM

Kryvyi Rih:

Another russian strike, this time on Kryvyi Rih. Two civilians dead, 17 injured. The toll of this war on innocent lives grows every day, if not every hour.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 12:50 PM

Zaporizhzhia:

Zaporizhzhia right now!

Russia struck a car repair shop. Civilians are rescuing people trapped in burning vehicles. Two people have been injured. Several communities are without power. Emergency services are working.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 11:58 AM

Russia killed 9 people today in Zaporizhzhia. Injured 17 more.

Just decided to bomb a car repair shop with the aerial bomb.

Just, you know, fucking felt like it.

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— Kate from Kharkiv (@kateinkharkiv.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 1:48 PM

Vovchansk:

Hell on earth. Vovchansk.

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— Iryna Voichuk (@irynavoichuk.bsky.social) December 6, 2024 at 6:24 AM

That’s enough for tonight.

Your daily Patron!

There are no new Patron tweets or videos today. Here is some adjacent material:

Ukrainian cats waiting in line to eat today in Izium, eastern Ukraine. So well behaved!

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— Nate Mook (@natemook.bsky.social) November 30, 2024 at 9:48 PM

Last winter, the Hachiko team found Snowball the cat at a checkpoint in Kherson.

This winter, she’s warm & healthy with her new Ukrainian family and friends. Snowball is queen of the house, but still catches mice every day. Fred the Retriever licks her eye to help keep it clean.

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— Nate Mook (@natemook.bsky.social) November 30, 2024 at 9:26 PM

Open thread!

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Last Call to Check the Pet Calendar Before the Links to Order Go Up

by WaterGirl|  December 6, 20246:21 pm| 27 Comments

This post is in: Balloon Juice, Open Threads, Pet Calendar

I put up two posts yesterday so you guys can look for your pets.

FINAL CHECK: Find Your Guys in 2025 Pets of Balloon Juice Calendar A!

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FINAL CHECK: Find Your Guys in 2025 Pets of Balloon Juice Calendar B!

Please let me know IN THIS POST if there is a problem with your pets:

  • can’t find your pet (look again before posting because I missed mine twice)
  • name is wrong or misspelled
  • heart status is wrong

Questions?

Ask them in the comments here.

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New GOP Gimmick Open Thread: Elon, For the Childrun!!!

by Anne Laurie|  December 6, 20244:16 pm| 71 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Republican Venality

He has 12 kids, doesn't talk to several, and spent Thanksgiving with none of them. He's also aggressively campaigning to cut childcare, benefits and education. Stop lying https://t.co/PkhMAQaF70

— Mustache Bob (@MustacheBob2) December 5, 2024

Bethany ‘Call Me A Grandma Killer‘ Mandel, professional homeschooling Mommy & also point-person for trial running new terrible ideas for the Wingnut Wurlitzer, wants you to know: Mr. Musk is such a good Daddy! His kids mean everything to him… so long as they’re small & cute & too young to talk back.

(See also: Dave Anderson’s latest post.)

So the updated slash-benefits Repub talking point will be: We’re only taking away your Social Security / Medicare / veterans benefits / social services because Our Children, They Are the Future.

And the Repubs also plan to make sure there’s plenty more children, especially children whose parents will be desperate enough to accept whatever abuse the GOP cost-cutters can invent to shovel more money at billionaires, like Elon Musk.

NEW:

Remember RBG PAC, the group that used Ruth Bader Ginsburg to defend Donald Trump on abortion?

It was entirely funded by Elon Musk.

$20.5 million.

Our original scoop:https://t.co/vqZtpu9o69 pic.twitter.com/Zm4QQEPqZJ

— Teddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer) December 6, 2024

Like the billionaire mafia is coming for my little paycheck. https://t.co/laJvcRLgqh

— Karen Piper (@PiperK) December 6, 2024

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‘News Deserts’ – Um, Maybe?

by @heymistermix.com|  December 6, 20244:09 pm| 20 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Medill is out with a new study showing that people who live in news deserts are less likely to ticket split and that news deserts went harder for Trump than other red areas.

While Trump’s national popular-vote margin was just under 1.5%, his margin in news deserts was massive. He won these counties by an average of 54 percentage points. In the few won by Harris, her margin was a comparatively slim 18 points, the analysis shows.

The findings are based on results from 193 of the 206 counties Medill has identified as news deserts, in states where county-level election results are currently available. The third annual State of Local News report, released by Medill’s Local News Initiative in October, documented the continuing decline of local news across the country, as measured by the number of newspapers, circulation, frequency of publication, employment and readership.

The report found that the highest concentration of counties with limited access to local news were in solidly “red” states, such as Texas, Kentucky, Arkansas, Idaho, Montana and Mississippi.

Their study looks at percentages, which is an issue in really small counties (where a few votes changed can make a big difference.). Also, two of the biggest swings in news deserts were Maverick and Starr County, Texas, which are counties in the Rio Grande Valley, where something is definitely going on with Hispanic voters, but I’m not sure it is the lack of local newspapers.  Anyway, read the piece and see what you think.  Here’s something from near the end of the piece that made me think “news desert” is more of a symptom than a cause:

[…] [Report for America’s Paul] Waldman said, the election results show “that some of the most common victims of the collapse of local news” are the same people who support Trump. They’re victims, he elaborated, because of all the documented consequences of life in a news desert: more political corruption, higher taxes, lower bond ratings, greater social alienation and rising misinformation, as well as the loss of social cohesion when subjects such as high school sports, local obits and community projects aren’t covered.

Another way to put it:  news deserts are places the world has passed by, full of poverty and the corruption that often accompanies it.  They can’t support newspapers in the same way they can’t support a decent fire or police department, decent schools and all the other public infrastructure that non-poor areas support.  These places are fertile ground for Trumpism.

I have a fair amount experience with red rural areas that aren’t news deserts (well, with the way that journalism is going right now, they’re more like news steppes.)  My hometown and the little towns around it have always had weeklies that did a pretty good job covering local politics, sports, obits and projects.  They generally shy away from national politics.  The print daily in the bigger town has shrunk to a few pages every few days and is functionally worthless as a newspaper, and its website is also functionally worthless (crapped up with ads, don’t have enough reporters, everything is paywalled), like pretty much every other newspaper website except for the big national brands (Times, Post, etc.).  Still, from the time when I was a kid to today, most of the people in that area vote straight Republican tickets no matter what news they consume.  It isn’t just the news diet, in other words.

Since we’re talking about the Hispanic vote, UCLA’s Voting Rights Project has done some analysis that doesn’t use exit polls to see how the Hispanic vote swung overall.

'News Deserts' - Um, Maybe?

If you look at their BlueSky profile, they have a number of graphs for different areas with big Hispanic populations.  I’m sure not going to take any solace in a loss of “only” 5-7 points of support from a constituency that’s a key part of our coalition.  It’s a big problem.

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There Is No Alternate Universe – We Do Not Have the Fucking Luxury of Duplicate Bridge

by WaterGirl|  December 6, 20242:56 pm| 188 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics

The un-civil war in July was painful the first time, and you know what, it only gets worse each time we re-litigate it.

Democrats lost the election, so both sides of Biden-not Biden debate lost our chance for a Democratic president.

And now we are stuck with a fucking monster as the incoming President – who is choosing monsters for his cabinet.

It’s gonna take all of us to work against what’s coming.  Together.

Can we please stop fighting the last war and start fighting the next one?

Who’s with me on this?

*No blaming Dems for the past, no re-litigating, no alternate realities, no random music links.  Please.

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Claudia vs Justin – How to Deal with a Malignant Narcissist

by @heymistermix.com|  December 6, 20242:09 pm| 28 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

At her mañanera  (morning press conference) yesterday, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum said this:

Sheinbaum noted that all state governors will attend a security meeting with federal officials in Acapulco next week.

She indicated that on the sidelines of that meeting, the governors of Mexico’s six northern border states – Baja California, Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo León and Tamaulipas – will gather with federal officials to discuss Donald Trump’s stated plan to carry out a mass deportation operation.

Sheinbaum said that the federal government will come to an agreement with the northern border states over “how to receive our compatriots in case of a mass deportation” of Mexican immigrants currently living in the United States.

“We hope that it doesn’t happen, but if it does happen we’ll be prepared to welcome them,” she said.

I’ve written earlier about Claudia’s handling of Trump, and her latest statement is consistent with the way she dealt with him earlier.  Cordial, sticking to facts, and not over-reacting to his threats.  A malignant narcissist thrives on making threats, then having people kow-tow to him because of the threat.  Saying, basically, “yeah, that wouldn’t be great, but if it happens, we’ll deal with it” takes some of the wind out of the narcissist’s sails.  Also, not being reactive to a threat, even in the face of a short-term loss, often works out:  the Peso, which had fallen after Trump’s tariff threats, has recovered.

The other fact about Mexico is that they wield a lot of power in the US/Mexico relationship.  I’m sitting here eating a Mexican-grown avocado and some Mexican-grown blueberries, for example:  a 25% tariff wouldn’t be great for grocery prices.  Mexico also has a track record of limiting migration through the country:  they detained 5,000 migrants on Tuesday, bringing the total number detained since Claudia took office on October 1 to almost 350,000.    Send back a few million Mexicans and you’ll see the Mexican government opening their borders and letting millions of Central and South American migrants through their country.  That doesn’t even consider the massive amounts of heavy goods (autos, trucks, appliances) manufactured in maquiladoras across the north of Mexico, another disincentive for tariffs.

Contrast Claudia’s approach with Justin Trudeau, the for-now Prime Minister of the Great White North.  Justin immediately hopped on a plane and went on an ass-kissing mission to Mar-a-Lago.  After that meeting, Justin’s reward was Trump musing about annexing Canada, and this at some buttlicking convention in Florida:

Claudia vs Justin - How to Deal with a Malignant Narcissist

The Politico story about the annexation of Canada had the subhead “‘The president was teasing,’ insists a top Trudeau minister who attended Mar-a-Lago dinner.”  That’s a powerful message for Justin to take home as he faces an uphill battle against the Tories and their new leader Pierre Poilievre.  And, really, was this necessary?  I’d argue that Canada is in a similarly strong position as Mexico where tariffs are concerned.  Their exports, including oil, cars, airplane parts, wheat and beef, are consumer goods where tariffs would be an economic disaster.

As far as I’m concerned, Justin showed us all how not to deal with Trump, and Claudia has, so far, shown us how to deal with Trump.  First rule:  never appear in person with Trump if you can avoid it–he considers it a win if you show up at Mar-a-Lago.  Second rule:  react with the facts, not with panic.  Third rule:  keep your fucking dignity intact, Jesus Christ.  He wants to dominate.  Deny him as much as possible.

So, in closing, #EsClaudia and Justin’s no Joseph Philippe Pierre Yves Elliott Trudeau.

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