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Why?

by John Cole|  November 22, 20059:27 am| 28 Comments

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Tim has a long post up on Scanlon pleading guilty, and it gives you much of the background and lots of links to follow, but what I can’t find is the answer to a simple question- why?

I simply don’t understand these folks that do stuff like this. Would I like to be rich? Sure, but I am not willing to screw over a boatload of people, and I am DEFINITELY not willing to take the chance that I would humiliate my family or spend years in jail to get rich.

And what REALLY is inexplicable to me are the folks like Adelphia’s Rigas, or the fellow from Tyco, or the others who were bilking sums in the hundreds of millions and billions range. Why? How does your lifestyle change from being worth 100 million to being worth 200 million? Is it that much that you are willing to risk everything?

I just don’t get it.

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Interesting Poll Results

by John Cole|  November 18, 200510:11 am| 9 Comments

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The Pew Research Center and the Council on Foreign Relations released a new poll stating that the citizens of the United States are becoming more isolationist, as well as a number of other findings. You can read the whole story here, and the actual link to Pew is here.

The results are interesting, and I recommend checking them out, but what caught my eye was this:

Two-thirds of Americans say that there is less international respect for the United States than in the past. When asked why, strong majorities – 71 percent of the public, 88 percent of opinion leaders –cite the war in Iraq.

Who are these opinion leaders, and how does Pew define them? As it turns out, Pew provides an answer:

The results of the opinion leaders survey are based on Americans who are influential in their chosen field. The sample was designed to represent these influentials in eight professional areas of expertise: media; foreign affairs; national security; state and local government; university administration and think tanks; religious organizations; science and engineering; and military. Every effort was made to make the sample as representative of the leadership of each particular field as possible. However, because the goal of the survey was to identify people of particular power or influence, the sampling was purposive in overall design, but systematic with regard to respondent selection wherever possible.

Just something I thought was interesting.

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Abe Foxman: Screw This Theocracy Crap

by Tim F|  November 16, 20054:32 pm| 51 Comments

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In my view, a positive development:

Warning that the Evangelical right has made alarming gains in social and political influence, a leading Jewish church-state watchdog is calling for a tougher and more unified Jewish response.

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, speaking to the group’s national leadership here last week, signaled a sharp shift in ADL policy by directly attacking several prominent religious right groups and challenging their motives, which he said include nothing less than “Christianizing America.”

Good for you, Abe. I’m sick to f-cking death of theocrats acting as though they have a right to draft public policy – things that affect you and me and everybody else, whether we subscibe to cult X or not. And I’m sick of the politicians who court the theocratic vote for their own cynical reasons. Drug approval springs to mind. Pharmacists have no right to say which prescriptions to fill and not fill, despite the companies and legislatures who enable them. Extremists demand no activist judges, or more activist judges, or any judge who will enforce their theocratic perspective. Pat Robertson may not set foreign policy but he sure has a knack for screwing it up. And on and on.

The ADL is hardly the first group to say what needs to be said, but Foxman’s influence could bump the debate a couple of levels. Now we won’t always have bobblehead shows ‘balance’ some American Family Association nutter with an AUSCS non-believer, but instead we’ll have an evangelical arguing with a Jewish person.

Er. Call me overly sensitive, but when you smoosh this story down to a water-cooler game of telephone the sound bite comes out sounding like evangelicals versus Jews. Polling by the ADL confirmed that 70 percent of church-going Americans, and 80 percent of evangelicals, believe that religion is under attack, which suggests at the very least that only 20 percent of evangelicals have the ability to tell offense from defense*. At a time when fundamentalists have made an art form out of the siege mentality it seems like this kind of move feeds right into that paranoid mindset. Not only is religion (replace with, ‘fundamentalist Christianity’) under attack, it’s under attack by Abe Foxman. Or maybe I’m full of it.

As I see it this could go two ways. The Council on American-Islamic Relations could join the fight, which at least by itself might prove unhelpful. Alternatively, Foxman could link up with the UCC and the Unitarian Jihad, and CAIR, and make this a fight between the extremists and everybody else rather than a fight between Christianity and one or both of America’s minority religions.

For more, see the Left Coaster.

(*) To illustrate what I mean: 60 percent of churchgoers and 69 percent of evangelicals responded in favor of forced prayer in schools.

Sixty-nine percent of Evangelicals and 60 percent of weekly churchgoers said there should be organized prayer in public schools, according to the survey, and 89 percent of Evangelicals agreed that religious symbols like the Ten Commandments should be displayed in public buildings.

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More on “Identity” Politics

by John Cole|  November 16, 20053:51 pm| 6 Comments

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Cathy Young has a great (as always) piece up on identity politics which is (as usual) better than my response and well worth your time.

More here from David Schraub.

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Open Source Media

by John Cole|  November 16, 20051:31 pm| 15 Comments

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BTW, here is the new Open Source Media website, which seems pretty nicely put together and aesthetically pleasing.

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Reefer Madness Redux

by John Cole|  November 16, 200512:56 pm| 3 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, The War on Your Neighbor, aka the War on Drugs

Bill Ardolino has a long and interesting post up deflating a lot of the hype surrounding steroid use.

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Interesting Quizzes

by John Cole|  November 16, 200512:51 pm| 29 Comments

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Here is another one of those quizzes we all love. Paste your code in the comments.

Haymaker

You are one of life’s enjoyers, determined to get the most you can out of your brief spell on Earth. Probably what first attracted you to atheism was the prospect of liberation from the Ten Commandments, few of which are compatible with a life of pleasure. You play hard and work quite hard, have a strong sense of loyalty and a relaxed but consistent approach to your philosophy.

You can’t see the point of abstract principles and probably wouldn’t lay down your life for a concept though you might for a friend. Something of a champagne humanist, you admire George Bernard Shaw for his cheerful agnosticism and pursuit of sensual rewards and your Hollywood hero is Marlon Brando, who was beautiful, irascible and aimed for goodness in his own tortured way.

Sometimes you might be tempted to allow your own pleasures to take precedence over your ethics. But everyone is striving for that elusive balance between the good and the happy life. You’d probably open another bottle and say there’s no contest.

What kind of humanist are you? Click here to find out.

For those of you wondering about Tim, the results are in:

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You go out of your way to build bridges with people of different views and beliefs and have quite a few religious friends. You believe in the essential goodness of people , which means you’re always looking for common ground even if that entails compromises. You would defend Salman Rushdie’s right to criticise Islam but you’re sorry he attacked it so viciously, just as you feel uncomfortable with some of the more outspoken and unkind views of religion in the pages of this magazine.

You prefer the inclusive approach of writers like Zadie Smith or the radical Christian values of Edward Said. Don’t fall into the same trap as super–naïve Lib Dem MP Jenny Tonge who declared it was okay for clerics like Yusuf al–Qaradawi to justify their monstrous prejudices as a legitimate interpretation of the Koran: a perfect example of how the will to understand can mean the sacrifice of fundamental principles. Sometimes, you just have to hold out for what you know is right even if it hurts someone’s feelings.

What kind of humanist are you? Click here to find out..

Via Lauren.

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