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He really is that stupid.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

If you are still in the gop, you are either an extremist yourself, or in bed with those who are.

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A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

Let’s bury these fuckers at the polls 2 years from now.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

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The willow is too close to the house.

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The Supreme Court cannot be allowed to become the ultimate, unaccountable arbiter of everything.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

A fool as well as an oath-breaker.

Never give a known liar the benefit of the doubt.

Republicans firmly believe having an abortion is a very personal, very private decision between a woman and J.D. Vance.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

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Reaping the Post-Roe Whirlwind

by Betty Cracker|  December 4, 20231:04 pm| 110 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, The War On Women, Women's Rights Are Human Rights

A shoo-in for the title of most prolific liar in American history, Donald Trump has said a couple of things that are true and relevant to the upcoming election. The first true statement was that he made Ron DeSantis (unstated proviso: Trump can unmake him too). The second was that Republicans “are getting killed” on abortion.

Whether by Trump’s tiny orange hand or not, the DeSantis candidacy is looking like a fart in a whirlwind, which is a good thing for the republic, if not for Republicans. But item #2, the abortion rights issue, won’t dissipate like a fart in the shape of a Florida governor. As the Virginia governor’s recent fleecy faceplant makes clear, there are no magic words or outerwear items that will defang the reproductive rights issue. But Republicans are still looking for one weird trick.

Liz Mair, a GOP strategist who worked on the fart-in-a-whirlwind campaigns of Scott Walker, Carly Fiorina and Rick Perry, proposed a way Republicans can escape the reproductive rights morass in a guest essay in The New York Times. Here’s a gift link, though I cannot recommend an essay so poorly reasoned, deliberately deceptive and willfully blind to reality.

I call your attention to it because the level of denial in Mair’s piece is almost comical. Her premise is that redefining the meaning of “pro-life” will do the trick, as if decades of red-faced “pro-life” fanatics screaming BABY KILLER and a year-plus of post-Roe “pro-life” legislation that substitutes religious dogma for modern healthcare standards hasn’t etched the correct definition firmly in our minds.

Depending on which pro-lifer you talk to, “pro-life” could mean believing Roe was incorrectly decided and that under a correct interpretation of the Constitution, states were free to enact anti-abortion laws — though many states would not, and that was fine.

Or it could mean believing this but also being determined and committed to working to pass laws in every state banning abortion, possibly with multiple exceptions. Or it could mean believing Roe was wrongly decided and that federal law or the Constitution (or both) should ban abortions, perhaps with exceptions.

Or it could mean being pro-Roe but at the same time anti-abortion, or it could mean strictly opposing abortion in the second and third trimesters, with only cursory concern about Roe.

“Depending on which recovering alcoholic you talk to, ‘recovery’ could mean guzzling a handle of Tito’s every day…” I mean come on! What a steaming load of horseshit! It’s not surprising because forced-birthers lie about everything, all the time, but the massive chutzpah on display here from Mair, who is allegedly one of the “reasonable” Republicans, is something to see.

Understanding that “pro-life” can mean a variety of things should inform the way Republicans approach this issue. Right now, when many voters — again, even Republican voters — hear the term “pro-life,” their brains process it as denoting an extreme position. Maybe they think of states like Alabama, Arkansas and Oklahoma, which have imposed near-complete abortion bans.

Gosh, maybe “their brains process it” as an extreme position because voters recognize that it is an extreme fucking position. And maybe voters have noticed that when Republicans are in power, they give their extreme position force of law.

Mair dishonestly highlights Alabama, Arkansas and Oklahoma as rural outliers when in fact 21 U.S. states controlled by Republicans either imposed draconian restrictions or in effect banned abortion after Roe fell, including populous states like Florida and Texas.

In a sign of how desperate Mair is to extricate her party from the trap it made, she turns to shitty misogynist weirdos JD Vance and Donald Fucking Trump as models of how Repubs can move forward:

This trend — in which “pro-life” equals “extreme” — is what Senator J.D. Vance of Ohio pointed to in explaining why voters in the state resoundingly approved a ballot measure enshrining a right to abortion in the state Constitution. As he put it, the pro-life side got clobbered because voters disliked both options, but they particularly disliked the state’s pro-life so-called heartbeat bill, which made abortion illegal beyond about six weeks of pregnancy, and voted to keep some forms of abortion legal.

As Mr. Vance posted on social media, “We have to recognize how much voters mistrust us (meaning elected Republicans) on this issue.”

Well, he’s right that voters mistrust Republicans but he’s wrong about why. By huge margins, Americans reject abortion bans. They mistrust Republicans because Republicans brazenly lie about their intent on abortion all the time.

The “pro-life” movement’s aim is to abolish reproductive rights, as movement figures openly proclaim to supporters, and then they tell bald-faced lies to gain the power to do so, as the Republicans on the Supreme Court did when they called Roe “settled law” as nominees and then overturned it.

Like the robed liars in the highest court in the land, Republicans like Mair, Vance and Trump are only advocating a temporary ceasefire on abortion so they can regroup and think up new lies. Mair comes close to admitting it here:

But the party can triage. Focus first on a broadly winning position, which is banning later abortions. And at least for a few years, drop the legislating, especially where it gets into Ohio-like terrain. That is what the pro-life movement will be left with having to do anyway. If the Trump-Vance scenario comes to pass, the pro-life movement will be left with having to change hearts and minds to affect individual behavior based on (shifted) individual opinion rather than focusing mostly on changing laws.

It’s an absurd proposal. Republicans stopped trying to persuade people decades ago and went all-in on minoritarian rule because their policies are unpopular, including their opposition to abortion rights.

Republicans also made screaming fanatics a leg of the GOP coalition’s three-legged stool 50 years ago, so they’re stuck with them. And lying about what “pro-life” means isn’t going to fly when nearly half the states are run by fanatics who are consigning every woman of childbearing years to substandard healthcare and higher mortality rates.

I think Mair and company are just going to have to reap the whirlwind on this one. No one is buying their bullshit anymore.

Open thread.

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Late Night Open Thread: Dean Phillips Is Huffing Serious Fumes

by Anne Laurie|  December 4, 20232:47 am| 97 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Primaries, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

Huh. Dean Phillips is still alive. https://t.co/pZImcLTuej

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) December 3, 2023

Haven’t listened to the whole thing (I’m waiting on a transcript), but Rep. Phillips seems to be spouting every half-arsed, failed ‘win the primary by force of argument!!’ slogan from 2008 / 2012 / 2016 / 2020 — from *both* sides of the aisle, but particularly the not-Democratic one.

Holy crap! This interview with Dean Phillips on Pod Save America is an absolute disaster.@deanbphillips isn’t ready for this run. #DropOutDean
Highlights… pic.twitter.com/3jx8CUcmzR

— Christopher Webb (@cwebbonline) December 3, 2023


‘I want a Common-Sense Czar’… (How’d that go for Paul Ryan, or Mitt Romney, or… ?)

"For two hours, Dean Phillips sat at a Democratic Party dinner here as one top party official after another rose to fete his opponent, Joe Biden, and encourage voters to write in the president’s name on next month’s ballot."

Time to #DropOutDean
https://t.co/SOvTwwrkHF

— Sann Diamond (@smndiad) December 2, 2023

But he’s a Midwestern white dude with a personal fortune! How can you cruelly dismiss a winsome fella with such bright ideas (ask his paid advisers!), just because ‘the voters’ might not yet understand that Mean Dean Green is the *only* choice against Donald Trump?!?…

"I can't imagine that there's anybody here that even cares," that you're running #DropOutDean. https://t.co/jNQ19LmITM pic.twitter.com/vNfNrtmqBi

— LANana – Fani Willis is my Hero ?? (@lanana421) December 2, 2023

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With all due respect, @RepDeanPhillips, the 40 million Americans who get health care through the ACA and the 135 million Americans who are protected from discrimination for having a pre-existing condition want no part of “starting from scratch” and frankly neither should you. pic.twitter.com/JnRP5Khnc6

— Protect Our Care (@ProtectOurCare) December 1, 2023

He’s already trying to get the delegates to overturn the wishes of the primary voters. https://t.co/RSbGegCnS4

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) November 30, 2023

Dean Phillips: “The primaries are rigged, but thank god Obama beat the system.”

PSA: “Obama beat the system because he campaigned for over a year before any votes were cast.”

Dean Phillips: “Well I only joined the race last month.”

PSA: “EXACTLY.”

Dean Phillips: [crickets]

— B (@WithABat_Bill) December 1, 2023

Remember Jeff Weaver, Comic Book Guy, from the 2016 Sanders campaign?

an amazing rebuttal while you're challenging someone https://t.co/4mmg90V1N9

— Taniel (@Taniel) November 30, 2023

I call on @RepDeanPhillips to smoke a better brand of weed

— Real Benisons (@RealBenisons) November 29, 2023

Has anyone met a Dean Phillips voter in the wild? https://t.co/49dow55g69

— Susan J. Demas ?? (@sjdemas) November 29, 2023

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War for Ukraine Day 648: The Clock Ticks in Kyiv While Those in DC & Brussels Dither

by Adam L Silverman|  December 3, 20237:55 pm| 66 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

As the winter campaign in Ukraine begins, the strategic failures in DC, Brussels, and the capitols of Europe are becoming a major problem.

NATO General Secretary @jensstoltenberg: we must be ready for bad news, too. This is a war of attrition, battle for effectiveness, battle for logistics. Increasing ammunition production plays a decisive role. The more we support Ukraine, the sooner this war will end.

We must… pic.twitter.com/oGdRZsRw73

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) December 3, 2023

NATO General Secretary @jensstoltenberg: we must be ready for bad news, too. This is a war of attrition, battle for effectiveness, battle for logistics. Increasing ammunition production plays a decisive role. The more we support Ukraine, the sooner this war will end.

We must understand that the victory of president Putin will become a tragedy for Ukraine but it will be dangerous for us, as well.

 

https://twitter.com/EHunterChristie/status/1731347922829054201

This is an estimate based on observation of facts on the ground. But it seems a fair-minded exercise to assume it is accurate and, on that basis, to ask the White House the following questions:
– Why were only ~ 20 missiles transferred?
– What is the current reasoning regarding possible further deliveries?
– What about the longer-range, more recent version of the ATACMS? Why has USG not seen fit to transfer those to Ukraine so far?

👍👍👍Ex-head of the CIA Petrius analyzes why there was no breakthrough in the Ukrainian counteroffensive.

We have seen our delays in providing military equipment to Ukraine, our tanks have only recently reached them.

➡️Our delay in making decisions about the M1 (Abrams),… pic.twitter.com/GjkI8NCA2f

— Jürgen Nauditt 🇩🇪🇺🇦 (@jurgen_nauditt) December 3, 2023

👍👍👍Ex-head of the CIA Petrius analyzes why there was no breakthrough in the Ukrainian counteroffensive.

We have seen our delays in providing military equipment to Ukraine, our tanks have only recently reached them.

➡️Our delay in making decisions about the M1 (Abrams),
➡️delays with the approval of Leopard tanks,
➡️we delayed decisions on cluster munitions, which could have been very useful,
➡️missile systems with a longer radius of action for rocket systems of salvo fire,
➡️and finally, Western-style airplanes

Retired General David Petraeus lists these factors as to why this year’s counteroffensive failed.

🟢 “Our military doctrine says that in order to break through the types of defenses that we saw in the south (and I don’t think anyone really realized or appreciated the depth of the minefields, and that Russia did a very good defensive part, several lines of defense, etc. ), our doctrine says that this requires air superiority as well as many other capabilities. And we didn’t give it to the Ukrainians”, – David Petraeus in an interview with “Voice of America”

P.S. He is absolutely right.
Error detected – then make it better from now on.
Begin with #ATACMSforUkraine and #TaurusForUkraine

The White House doesn’t want Ukraine to win. The question is why. Since they won’t say, the answer is something they are ashamed of and/or would suffer for politically. So I believe they are still trying to make deals with Russia and Iran instead of defeating them. https://t.co/q9UNqAGOlY

— Garry Kasparov (@Kasparov63) December 3, 2023

From The Financial Times:

EU leaders risk leaving Ukraine empty-handed at a perilous moment in its war against Russia as divisions over finances threaten a €50bn lifeline for Kyiv and Hungary vows to thwart its EU membership talks.

Disputes within the EU over money and Ukraine’s future are endangering crucial pledges to Kyiv made months ago — just when the flow of US financial and military support for Ukraine has abruptly stalled in a politically divided Congress.

EU member states are far from reaching a deal over topping up the bloc’s joint budget — including €50bn for Ukraine — ahead of a summit in Brussels on December 14-15, said officials involved in the discussions.

EU efforts to reach a compromise are being hampered by the victory of a far-right party in last month’s Dutch election and a recent German court ruling curbing the government’s borrowing. A budget agreement would be “very, very difficult”, a senior official said.

Meanwhile, the Biden administration’s proposed $60bn package is struggling to pass through Congress.

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán on Friday again vowed to veto the start of Ukraine’s EU membership talks, telling public radio it was “contrary to the interests of several member states” and accession might only be possible “many years from now”.

“We are in a good enough shape to dare say so, no matter the pressure we come under,” he said.

A failure to approve long-term funding, a separate €20bn facility for weapons purchases and the start of accession negotiations would be a hammer blow to Kyiv after the failure of its summer counteroffensive and growing concern about faltering western support. Olha Stefanishyna, Ukraine’s deputy prime minister, last week described the EU summit as an “existential moment” for her country.

“It is crucial that the continued support for Ukraine remains and that we Europeans play our role,” Belgian Prime Minister Alexander De Croo told the Financial Times.

Ukraine has warned that the uncertainty over US and European support packages is putting the country’s “macro-financial stability” at risk. The €50bn proposed by the EU is designed to keep Kyiv solvent to 2027.

“It is a moment of truth,” said an EU official. “If you say you stand by Ukraine, you have to step up to the plate.”

Germany and other states have vowed to give Brussels no additional funds beyond that required for Kyiv, while others are demanding extra cash for domestically sensitive issues such as migration.

Orbán also opposes the funding package. EU officials note that he has relented on Ukraine decisions before and are trying to assess whether he has a price for his support, including the release of some of the €22bn in EU funds blocked by Brussels over rule of law concerns.

EU officials last week indicated that the European Commission was close to unblocking up to €10bn for Budapest, as reforms enacted earlier this year had strengthened judicial independence.

However, Hungarian officials insist there is no link between Ukraine and the funds issue, and EU officials and diplomats say that this time the Hungarian leader seems more implacable.

“There’s a lot of fog that needs to be lifted in the next weeks. And today there’s so much fog that I don’t see very far away what’s coming,” said De Croo.

More at the link!

The Ukrainians are not going to stop fighting, but if they lose this war, if Putin’s genocidal ambitions are achieved, leading to the rest of Europe being threatened, that loss will lay at the feet of the Biden administration and the US Congress, the European Union, and the EU member states. The Ukrainians are not going to give up, but until or unless the senior people in DC, Brussels, and the capitols of the EU member states get their heads in the game, not giving up is not going to be enough.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Everyone should remember that the battle for the fate of Ukraine continues – address by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

3 December 2023 – 20:18

Fellow Ukrainians!

Today, the Russian occupiers struck at Kherson once again. Brutal strikes. Straight at the city… Houses. Streets. Our hospitals. As of now, two people have been reported dead. My condolences to the families and friends. All the wounded have been provided with the necessary assistance.

Altogether, on this day alone, and only in Kherson region, there were more than 20 Russian shelling occasions – similar to those in Kherson, purely terrorist in nature. In the city of Beryslav and in the villages of the region. I extend my gratitude to all the rescuers from the State Emergency Service of Ukraine, to all the National Police personnel working to eliminate the consequences of the shelling. I am grateful to all the doctors and nurses who are providing assistance. I am grateful to the local authorities and volunteers who do not abandon their cities and communities to their fate.

Intense battles are ongoing in dozens of areas along the entire frontline. The most severe are the Maryinka, Avdiivka and Bakhmut areas. However, it is also difficult in the south and in Kharkiv region.

And every city in Ukraine, where today was a relatively quiet day… Everyone who is now in the rear. Everyone who can afford to spend time at home. Everyone should remember that the battle for the fate of Ukraine continues. It’s not on social media, not in arguments over political matters, not in squabbling. This battle is where Ukrainians need support every day. Specific things that strengthen Ukraine. Things that add strength to our positions, to our state. Things that allow us to respond to the enemy’s attacks with our actions. Active actions. Bold actions.

I thank everyone who does not forget that the frontline requires support every day. I thank everyone who is working for the sake of unwavering, constant, real support. I thank everyone who understands how important it is for our people in the frontline areas and the temporarily occupied territories to feel that Ukraine remembers them. That Ukraine remembers and will not abandon them to the enemy’s destruction. I thank everyone who does not get discouraged and does not waste their precious energy on arguments. Those who work for the national interests. Those who heal and save lives. Those who educate children and genuinely care for their communities’ interests. Those who manufacture weapons and ammunition for our warriors. Those who organize volunteer fundraisers and, against all odds, provide assistance to specific units. I am grateful to everyone who trains our soldiers, both here in Ukraine and in partner countries. Each such training mission is a tangible contribution to the victory that will come. Inevitably. If you do not just believe in it, do not just expect victory from the warriors, but do everything in your power every day so that Ukraine becomes stronger and our collective capabilities increase.

We are already preparing for the next week, and we will definitely expand the capabilities of our state. In particular, our defense industry. We are preparing new military support packages from our partners. Strengthening our air defense, which is a constant priority, is also in progress.

We will definitely retaliate for the occupiers’ terror against our people. We always do.

Glory to Ukraine!

Here’s more on what the US’s, the EU’s, and NATO’s failure will mean:

An unpopular opinion, if Ukraine is not provided with means to expel russians from our territory, Ukraine will have to do something different, open borders, evacuate as much people as possible, dismiss the AFU and have govt in exhile as already happened to us 100 years ago.
1/3

— Mariia Kramarenko (@KramarenkoMari3) December 3, 2023

with an army refreshed with Ukrainians and NATO weapons russia will already be in 0 km from Poland, Romania, Slovakia and Hungary. What do you think about such a perspective?

PS: I don’t mention Moldova because russian troops are already there.

3/3

— Mariia Kramarenko (@KramarenkoMari3) December 3, 2023

Zelenskyy will resign at some point- that’s obvious he won’t be here forever. Yes, 10s of millions more refugees to EU.
Budanov won’t do that.
I am tired of all these illusions.
It will be a problem of NATO and EU, not Ukraine anymore. We are done. Figure it out for yourself.

— Mariia Kramarenko (@KramarenkoMari3) December 3, 2023

Precisely. If the US + Europe together are incapable of holding off an army of convicts and pardoned cannibals, whilst having all the means to do so, then they deserve what's coming. Enjoy Netflix and Disney+ while you can. https://t.co/md9SccYsqP

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) December 3, 2023

The Ukrainians are willing to spend their blood and treasure, all they’re asking is for us to provide the necessary material and equipment. Material and equipment that is overwhelmingly made in the US or in the EU member states, which creates jobs and economic growth in the US and the EU member states. And we CANNOT even be bothered to do much despite doing so resulting in a major victory that would actually stabilize the global system, benefit our own economy, and cost pennies on the dollars.

For those keeping Advent calendars this season:

3rd Day of Ukrainian Advent Calendar

Today, we want to thank our British partners @DefenceHQ. The UK was the first European country to send weapons to the Ukrainian army to repel russian aggression. And we are also grateful for one of the best modern tanks Challenger 2.

The… pic.twitter.com/GYaD1XTA4z

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) December 3, 2023

3rd Day of Ukrainian Advent Calendar

Today, we want to thank our British partners @DefenceHQ. The UK was the first European country to send weapons to the Ukrainian army to repel russian aggression. And we are also grateful for one of the best modern tanks Challenger 2.

The Challenger 2 became an effective weapon in professional hands of Ukrainian warriors. The spectacular combination of 🇬🇧 technology and 🇺🇦 talent helps lo liberate our land from occupiers.

More Weapons of Victory to came tomorrow. You can guess an option in comments.

#StandWithUkraine #UAMoDAdvent

More on the blockade of military equipment being transshipped through Poland:

Most likely it's a part of the USA aid, but they will tell you that all humanitarian and military aid is not blocked 🤡 https://t.co/kJIZcmpUDU

— Paul Shapoval (@Frialum) December 2, 2023

Looks ridiculous how panicky they're trying to make the case and find at least a few proofs that Ukrainians harm the market. Like, so far – zero real evidence that it's a massive issue

— Paul Shapoval (@Frialum) December 2, 2023

From EuroIntegration: (machine translation)

Activist of the NGO “Europe without Barriers” Pavlo Kravchuk said that blockers on the Polish border detained the patrol boat SAFE Boats International, which is part of a program of assistance from the US government.

As “European Truth” writes, he reported this on Facebook.

He said blockers representing the anti-Ukrainian party “Confederation” said they had detained and sent a truck with a boat from SAFE Boats at the end of the queue, claiming it was a “yacht road”, designed as humanitarian aid.

Kravchuk said he received a comment from SAFE Boats stating that she had provided 27-foot patrol boats such as the “Cabin with the possibility of bypassing” (Walk Around Cabin) for Ukraine.

“It’s part of a US government assistance program. The vessels provided by SAFE Boats are intended for use as government patrol vessels and are not intended for use as private yachts, – quoted the company’s statement.

The activist noted that he could not claim for sure that under the cover of one of these boats.

“But I consider it very likely that this is the case, and the Confederacy not only causes insane damage to Ukraine’s economy and delays vital supplies indirectly, but also directly blocks military cargo”, – summed up Kravchuk.

Earlier it was reported that Ukrainian drivers of scales waiting for the crossing of the checkpoint “Krakowiec-Korchova” due to the blockade of Polish carriers, decided to suspend the hunger strike after negotiations.

The day before, representatives of the infrastructure authorities of Ukraine and Poland met in Warsaw, discussing measures to lift the blockade of Polish carriers at the border, and already agreed on several points.

It will be recalled that Polish truckers began protest On November 6, demanding that the EU, among other things, restore the licensing system for Ukrainian drivers entering the European Union.

The State Border Guard Service of Ukraine reported, that as of Friday morning, there are a total of about 2,100 trucks on the Ukrainian-Polish border in line to enter Ukraine.

Abomination is the least strong word to describe what happens now along Ukraine’s borders with Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary.

Historians of the future will be genuinely shocked to see how petty, delusional, and irresponsible their ancestors were in the darkest hour – and how…

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) December 3, 2023

Abomination is the least strong word to describe what happens now along Ukraine’s borders with Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary.

Historians of the future will be genuinely shocked to see how petty, delusional, and irresponsible their ancestors were in the darkest hour – and how they brought grief upon themselves AGAIN and AGAIN by being stunningly blind.

Bakhmut:

The atmosphere of frontline positions in Donbas (Bakhmut direction)

— Мисливець за зорями (@small10space) December 3, 2023

Christmas trees know no boundaries. This was set up around Bakhmut

📷 Roman Docent pic.twitter.com/pEJzmLZxur

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) December 3, 2023

 

Avdiivka:

In reference to the murder of the two Ukrainian POWs by Russian militants the head of the Avdiivka City Military Administration, Vitaliy Barabash, said:

“Our fighters surrendered because they ran out of ammunition, but Russian b*stards shot unarmed soldiers.

Later, the… pic.twitter.com/NtYDDt98MG

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) December 3, 2023

In reference to the murder of the two Ukrainian POWs by Russian militants the head of the Avdiivka City Military Administration, Vitaliy Barabash, said:

“Our fighters surrendered because they ran out of ammunition, but Russian b*stards shot unarmed soldiers.

Later, the positions of the Russians were covered and all were eliminated.”

#Ukraine #Donetsk #Avdiivka

 

Destroyed Russian equipment in Avdiivka, 2 Dec 2023.https://t.co/uOgJxKhBcB pic.twitter.com/BiJBdVC5a7

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) December 3, 2023

First tweet from the thread, the rest from the Thread Reader App:

No matter what but the war continues. And RUAF are still trying to capture Avdiivka.

I don’t know what’s going on but sometimes I think that the West is afraid of our Victory.

Well, doesn’t matter. We will continue fighting till the end.

So Avdiivka thread. Part V🧵👇 pic.twitter.com/lQdzHOTt2W

— Kriegsforscher (@OSINTua) December 3, 2023

List of huge losses from October continues.

This BMP was destroyed 22.10.23

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Two more BMPs from 19.10.23

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BTR-82A, T-72 tank and what, former BMP or APC?

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More APCs, tanks from 19.10

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BMPs and tanks

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Left T-72, BTR-80 and destroyed BMP-2. Still everything from 19.10

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This looks like Stalingrad movie from the late 90s

Leftovers of destroyed tanks and IFVs

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4 new BTR-82A and one more MTLB

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All of that was from the north. So a little update from the south, Vodiane village👇

Two new T-72B3M tanks

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New T-80BV and some kinda of panorama

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BMP-1 and tanks. You don’t see tanks? Well, there were T-80 and T-64 I assume
Maybe @naalsio26 will correct me

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@naalsio26 Destroyed MTLB, destroyed BMP, damaged and left T-72B and BTS-2/4.

Vodiane village, south of Avdiivka.

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@naalsio26 I don’t about human losses but @WT3ll published two photos of destroyed enemy infantry there.

U may count. But the point is that we got used to the fact of huge Russian losses. But the point is that they gave a fuck.
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Krynky, left bank of the Dnipro, Russian occupied Kherson Oblast:

Magyar’s Birds are hunting!

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1731284662394273830

First two documented losses of China provided Desertcrosses in Oleshki forest, Kherson region. https://t.co/eTzbPt2k89 https://t.co/lRZWsw89pn pic.twitter.com/2G0rR5IRqK

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) December 3, 2023

Moscow:

A factory for specialized cars in Moscow is on fire. Around 1,000 square meters are already compromised and the fire is spreading.

Source: https://t.co/9TAPDsHLMo#Russia #Moscow pic.twitter.com/a985JbjpTw

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) December 3, 2023

Mikhail Khodorkovsky has posted a thread where he assesses Putin’s weaknesses. First tweet from the thread, the rest from the Thread Reader App:

Internal conflicts and betrayal among Putin's closest allies are finally exposing his weaknesses.

The change in Russia is inevitable: here's what the future might look like 🧵 1/11 pic.twitter.com/oqo14kjces

— Mikhail Khodorkovsky (@khodorkovsky_en) December 2, 2023

Putin’s war against Ukraine is a catalyst for his regime’s eventual fall. It’s a question of when, not if. This war has triggered forces that will lead to the regime’s collapse. The key challenge now is ensuring a democratic transition post-Putin. 2/11 
Peaceful protests alone can’t topple Putin’s regime. We face the hard truth: his removal won’t happen through elections or peaceful means. This necessitates a different approach for change. 3/11 
Prigozhin’s coup attempt was a turning point. Despite no sympathy for him, this event highlighted the regime’s vulnerabilities. It’s a crack in Putin’s armor that we must acknowledge and exploit. 4/11 
The assassination of Prigozhin and his circle signals deep military dissatisfaction and the regime’s fragility. These internal rifts within the power structure are our opportunities for change. 5/11 
Future regime splits are also inevitable. ‘National patriots’ like Prigozhin won’t bring democratization. We, as a democratic opposition, must be ready to dismantle autocracy and uphold democratic values. 6/11 
Overthrowing Putin is crucial, but the aftermath is vital. I am convinced, dissolution of Russia would lead to unstable, nuclear-armed states. We need a balanced, democratic future, not fragmentation. 7/11 
Replacing Putin with another ‘good tsar’ isn’t the answer either. Another strongman would continue corruption and repression. Our aim is a federal, democratic Russia, not centralized autocracy. 8/11 
I envision a Russia where power comes from its people and regions, not just Moscow. A federal parliamentary republic could offer inclusive governance, ensuring diverse voices are represented and heard. 9/11 
The exodus of Russia’s brightest is a loss but also a reservoir of potential leaders for a democratic future. We must harness this intellectual capital to build a free, progressive Russia. 10/11 
This is a shorter adaptation from my piece for @KoerberIP, read in full here: 11/11

Here’s Tendar’s take on Khordokovsky’s assessment:

I have read your thread and while I agree with many points you bring up, I disagree with your outlook of a post-imperial Russia where you see danger of the dissolution of Russia. Let me elaborate:

You say that the dissolution of Russia would lead to unstable, nuclear-armed… https://t.co/tAG8HzZh1i

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) December 3, 2023

I have read your thread and while I agree with many points you bring up, I disagree with your outlook of a post-imperial Russia where you see danger of the dissolution of Russia. Let me elaborate:

You say that the dissolution of Russia would lead to unstable, nuclear-armed states. From my perspective I currently see only an unstable and nuclear-armed Russia, which is frantically fighting to win another year to be an empire. That implies to neighbor-countries such as Ukraine, Georgia and even Belarus as well as the republics which are currently inside the so-called Russian Federation. Denying them self-determination is the continuation of the flawed and eventually untenable state of imperial grandism which brought us this very problem in the first place.

Putin is only the symptom of the decease. The problem is that this and all previous Russian states were by design empires and the peoples/minorities primarily cannon fodder for the expansionist aims of Moscow. We see it right now in Ukraine, where disproportionately minorities are sent to die for a lost cause while their lands are getting scarred by mining as well as oil and gas exploitation, without much wealth being left in the regions and instead being transferred to bank accounts all around the world. I can hardly believe that they will return to the status quo, especially knowing how little the word of Moscow can be trusted.

The dissolution or continuation of the Russian state will depend entirely on the peoples’ will. Each region and republic must have a referendum whether to stay or leave the Russian state. Everything else will bring us back to square one, with the results we have been witness over and over again. One might ask how Russia would survive without all its colonies which are currently stripped. The answer lies in the people which decide to stay inside Russia. It will be daunting task which will last generations, but unlike what Moscow is doing right now it might have a chance of success, if it is done in good faith.

Imperial Russia is dead. There is no going back. The earlier this is accepted, with all the consequences, the earlier you can rebuild a new world.

That’s enough for tonight.

Your daily Patron!

There’s no new Patron tweets, so we start with this adjacent material from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense:

Stay warm.

📹: @United24media pic.twitter.com/OJnGETa6I9

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) December 3, 2023

And we finish with a new video from Patron’s official TikTok:

@patron__dsns

Та й таке! #песпатрон

♬ original sound – conorferguson69

Google translates the caption as:

And so! #песпатрон

While DeepL translates the caption as:

And that’s just it! #песпатрон

Open thread!

 

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Excellent Reads: The Highest Remaining Utility for Elon Musk…

by Anne Laurie|  December 3, 20236:01 pm| 50 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Grifters Gonna Grift, Tech News & Issues, Assholes

Late Night Open Thread: Elon Musk Blames All of Us

… Is as a bad example to the rest of us, and a risible target for our better journalists. Albert Burneko, at Defector, “Looking Good, Elon! Feeling Good, Trashcan Man!”:

… X, née Twitter, the microblogging platform this genius bought on accident for twice its value a little over a year ago and which likely is now worth less than a quarter of what he paid for it, is struggling. It is losing its most valuable advertising partners, whose money has always provided nearly all the company’s anemic bloodflow, entirely 100-percent because of stuff Musk has done to the company and its product, either via numb-skulled executive fiat or through the sneering bigotry he himself posts and promotes on the site. Again, this is entirely 100-percent because Musk is, and I do not say this lightly, the rankest ignoramus presently living.

As briefly as I can summarize: He destroyed Twitter’s utility as a news service. He actively elevated and empowered its most poisonous and/or frightening and/or tiresome users. He made it janky and unreliable by gutting its workforce. He renamed it “X,” instantly rendering it somehow both anonymous and incandescently corny. Worst and most poisonous of all, he associated it with himself—with, that is, the rankest ignoramus presently living. It’s that guy’s website, now.

As to that. People still evidently want to hear from this absolute buttmunch, which is not really surprising I guess, even where it can’t be explained by ghoulish rubbernecking. Just about everything bad anyone might ever wish to say about society under capitalism is both crystallized and proven correct by the fact that Elon Musk remains Important despite all of the above. In fact he is probably at least as important as he has ever been, because “important” is just a synonym for “rich” in a society in which nothing substantial can be accomplished or even meaningfully attempted without first convincing at least one hyper-rich cretin that it will gratify them personally or financially. Conceivably Musk might not be quite as rich, or uh liquid or whatever, as he was some time ago, or maybe his rate of becoming richer has slowed somewhat, but he remains, inarguably, super duper friggin’ rich, and therefore important at a scale previously reserved for, like, pharaohs. Andrew Ross Sorkin of the New York Times and CNBC interviewed him earlier this week, and it served as a nice reminder of why pharaohs so seldom sat for interviews…

… The man is so profoundly sure that his dumb, todder-like, obviously pre-planned “Go fuck yourself” is going to dazzle and delight the crowd; that they will, depending on their sympathies, gasp (the owned libs) or applaud (astounded freethinkers) at his boldness, or moral courage, or edgy fearless cool or whatever. He’s so sure of it that he takes not one but two more passes at the line, each more deathly than the last: first with some theatrical handwaving that earns him a smattering of pity-chuckles from the crowd, and then again as a psychedelically cringey “G … F … Y” that makes clear he either doesn’t understand or is intentionally dodging Sorkin’s anodyne question.

Now, it’s true: Corny self-impressed mediocrities with zero self-awareness are not, as a rule, especially hilarious, even unintentionally. But this is one of the planet’s richest and most powerful people—a 52-year-old ultra-celebrity who can pick and choose his media engagements with a privilege rivaled only by certain heads of state and Taylor Swift—fully reduced to Walter Sobchak’s “Shomer fucking Shabbos” routine by momentary exposure to gentle half-adversarial questioning along utterly predictable lines from a broadly friendly interlocutor. That’s funny!

No less funny is Musk’s virtually instantaneous full-brain meltdown, as soon as Sorkin shows the slightest resistance to the megaton rhetorical force of awkwardly repeating “Go fuck yourself” in increasingly dumb ways, at people who are not present, for the benefit of people who are not impressed. “Yes, no, no, it, I-I-I, if, a-a-a-a-absolutely, so, um, no-no, totally, so, so, wha, eh, actually,” he offers, all but bleeding from the eyeballs: “What this advertiser boycott is gonna do is, it’s gonna kill the company.” What’s remarkable is not the prediction (he might be right!) but the dunce’s bearing as he makes it. He appears to think, to sincerely believe, that what he is proclaiming is something like an indictment … of the advertisers who are not paying money to promote their shit on Twitter…

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Many different things can rot a person’s mind—can erode their critical and moral faculties, dissolve their awareness of themselves and of the reality of others, turn them into Norma Desmond demanding her close-up. Fame. Wealth. Power. Impunity. Gratification. Sycophants. Drugs. Here is a man who has overindulged in all of these in gargantuan proportions, indulged until he is a great big sodden bag of shit, slumped and sludgy and spongy on the inside, like everything in there has been steeping in a Coca-Cola bath for 30 years. Too spoiled and indolent for the meager work of sussing out a single thought’s contours and borders, to say nothing of connecting it to another, without some Waylon Smithers at hand to do the lifting for him.

He also looks like shit! He looks like the answer to the question “What if toadies emitted gamma radiation.” He looks like somebody made an applehead Martin Bormann doll, sprayed it with vegetable oil, and dressed it up like it was going trick-or-treating as Maverick from Top Gun. I wouldn’t let him pet my dog.

 

“Musk, who appeared both high and made of plywood, responded with a reality of his own” https://t.co/I0qfanssDd

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) December 2, 2023


Drew Magary, at SFGate — “The end of Elon Musk”:

… A little over a year ago, Musk — already the CEO of Tesla and SpaceX and founder of the Boring Company — bought Twitter after making an obscene offer for it seemingly on a lark. Then he tried to back out of the deal by inventing whatever reasons he could find in his desk, and then bought it anyway when he realized that the die was cast. After that, he rebranded Twitter as X, laid off so many staffers that quality control on the platform became all but nonexistent, turned its verification system into a subscription service for thirsty MAGA losers, and watched his new company’s revenues drop by 50% and its American user base drop by nearly 20%.

A smarter billionaire might have cut his losses with X and turned his focus back to minting ugly Cybertrucks. But Musk has put all of his energy, to the great detriment of his other assets, into reshaping X in his own image instead, replete with antisemitic tropes out of the Illinois Nazi playbook and a tacit effort to revive the long-debunked Pizzagate conspiracy. This is because — and I’m not exaggerating — Musk truly believes that he who controls X also controls the world. His exchange with Sorkin yesterday, the entirety of which you can watch on the New York Times’ YouTube channel, all but proves it.

It also proves that he’s a real tit.

After many big-name companies withdrew their advertising from X in the wake of Musk’s continued hate speech, he used his exchange with Sorkin to respond to those companies thusly:

“Don’t advertise,” he said to the audience. “If someone is going to try to blackmail me with advertising? Blackmail me with money? Go f—k yourself. Go. F—k. Yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey Bob [Iger, CEO of Disney]! If you’re in the audience. That’s how I feel. Don’t advertise.”

Here is where Sorkin had to give Musk a bit of pragmatic business advice. I, like Sorkin, am a journalist and lemme tell you: You’re in BIG trouble if one of US understands how to make a profit better than you do…

Musk, who appeared both high and made of plywood, responded with a reality of his own:

“Actually, what this advertising boycott is going to do is, it’s going to kill the company. And the whole world will know that those advertisers killed the company, and we will document it in great detail.”

Here Musk looked out to the audience, expecting vehement agreement, perhaps even applause. He was greeted with dead silence instead. Sorkin, still residing in the correct reality, told Musk, “But those advertisers, I imagine they’re going to say, ‘WE didn’t kill the company.’”

And here is where Musk revealed his delusion to all. “Oh yeah?” he shot back. “Tell it to Earth.”

“Tell it to Earth.” If you imagine Will Smith delivering that line, it REALLY hits. But this was coming from a purported titan of industry, who was seemingly unaware that no one gives a holy s—t about his social media platform anymore. “Twitter isn’t real life” is a tired sound bite, but it’s never been more true than now. You really are screaming into the void when you post there. But Musk, who told Sorkin that he believed data to be more valuable than gold, remains committed to the idea that owning X means owning the chief information exchange for all of this planet’s 8 billion citizens. He thinks he can Thanos Snap wars and recessions into being merely by posting a recycled Pepe the Frog meme from 2016 on there. There is no reasoning with someone who is so megalomaniacal and so, SO stupid…

Ah well, allow me to respond on behalf of the Earth: The brands are right. No one gives a f—k about X anymore, and no one will be outraged when you — yes, you, Elon Musk — have finally killed it. The days of serial tweeters like me lamenting the days of Twitter Classic are over. We’ve gone elsewhere and use X only sparingly, and only as a necessary evil. Without us, and without any advertising support, X will soon make no money of any sort, and you’ll be left only with the occasional $8 a month from @FreedomBob69…

Elon should've pivoted the conversation to Tesla by telling ex-Twitter advertisers to die in a fire.

— Daily Trix (@DailyTrix) November 30, 2023

‘Squid-clouds of butthurt’, illustrated!
Excellent Reads:  The Highest Remaining Utility for Elon Musk...

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Sunday Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  December 3, 20234:55 pm| 105 Comments

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Sunday Afternoon Open Thread 25

Anybody know what creature that is?  My sister sent him to me, and he looks adorable.

I would take some snow right know as opposed to cold and wet, my least favorite combination.

Here’s a wide open thread for a Sunday afternoon.

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Fun Facts from Gavin Newsom Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  December 3, 202312:40 pm| 188 Comments

This post is in: Democratic Politics, Open Threads, Politics

It’s Sunday afternoon, and it’s cold and wet so I’m not going anywhere.  Except when I head out to pick up my favorite Italian Beef sandwich to bring home.  They even hand-cut their own fries out of special potatoes.  It’s such a treat to have finally found really good Italian Beef here!

Here’s a list of 10 things that Gavin Newson tweeted as a list at some point in the last few weeks.  Surely we can add to it and turn it into a list of 50?

If not, talk about food or lazy Sunday afternoon things, or anything else you want!

👷🏻 Seven times more jobs have been created during the Biden Administration than the last three Republican presidents combined. Yes, that is true.

🛠️47 million out of 49 million jobs created since Ronald Reagan left office were created by Democrats.

👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 California has some of the strongest gun laws in the country and as a result has a 43% lower gun death rate than the rest of the U.S. according to data from the CDC.

💰Middle class families in California pay LESS in taxes than in states like Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas.

👨‍❤️‍👨Support for same-sex marriage is now at a record 71% high.

📚 They do ban books in Florida.

💙Blue states have longer life expectancy, higher minimum wage and lower gun death rates.

⚡The Biden Administration has overseen the highest margin of net energy export in American history.

😡Republicans across the country are fanning the flames of culture wars to distract from the fact that on health, wealth, and economic outcomes they are failing.

🗳️When Democrats go on OFFENSE, we WIN.

Open thread.

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Sunday Morning Open Thread: Lazy Sunday Morning

by Anne Laurie|  December 3, 20238:26 am| 144 Comments

This post is in: Biden Administration in Action, Cat Blogging, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

Sunday Morning Open Thread:  Lazy Sunday Morning

(Clay Bennett via GoComics.com)

 
Some would call it cat libel, but some cats really *are* deliberately destructive little bastids — the orange traffic cone in our household would absolutely vote Republican, if he had thumbs and a fake ID.

Small treat for fans of holiday decorating:

Watch as the halls of the White House fill with magic, wonder, and joy. ? pic.twitter.com/jwGnwEkiDM

— Jill Biden (@FLOTUS) December 2, 2023

Queen Latifah and Auntie Dionne are among the honorees at this Sunday's #KCHonors!
VP and Second Gentleman will join POTUS and FLOTUS for this event that will be broadcast on December 27 (CBS/Paramount+).
And yes, we're excited to see what Madam VP is wearing ?? pic.twitter.com/YiQPhBkcDh

— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) November 30, 2023

This is in New Hampshire, where Biden is notoriously *not* on the (illegitimate under current rules) primary ballot:

Jeffries: Teddy Roosevelt had the square deal. FDR had the new deal. Truman had the fair deal. What President Biden and Democrats have accomplished in the last few years is a big deal. Now, Joe Biden says it a different way. I left out a word. pic.twitter.com/RfIW3stG02

— Acyn (@Acyn) December 2, 2023

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