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War for Ukraine Day 646: Russia Continues To Test Ukraine’s Air Defense

by Adam L Silverman|  December 1, 202310:17 pm| 24 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Just a quick housekeeping note: The good folks at The Ark Valley Voice, who are good friends, asked if I’d do a piece for them on the Israel-Hamas War. They published it yesterday around 4 PM MST. If you’re interested, here’s the link.

Russia once again opened up on Ukraine overnight. From the Air Force of Ukraine’s Telegram channel:

Screen shot of Air Force of Ukraine's Telegram channel from 1 DEC 2023 showing that Ukraine stopped 18 Shahed drones and 1 missile.

The 208th Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade did an excellent job.
No place for Shaheds in our sky!

📹: "South" Air Command pic.twitter.com/gBDC0EQlpi

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) December 1, 2023

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Listened to reports on ammunition and weapons supply; preparing requests for talks with partners – address by the President of Ukraine

1 December 2023 – 19:28

Wishing you good health, dear Ukrainians!

Summary for today.

Just chaired a Supreme Commander-in-Chief’s Staff meeting. Frontline commanders and the Commander-in-Chief reported on the situation at the front – all main directions. East – Kupyansk, Lyman, Maryinka, Avdiivka. Zaporizhzhia. South and, in particular, our actions in Kherson region. Grateful to all the soldiers on the front lines – in battles, at combat posts. Thanks to everyone helping defend our positions – building fortifications, mining the paths that occupiers try to use. Listened to reports on the supply of ammunition and weapons, we are preparing updated requests for communication with partners. A productive week of talks is ahead.

The head of the Foreign Intelligence Service of Ukraine presented a report on possible Russian actions and the international situation for the next year at the Staff meeting. We are analyzing all possible scenarios, and there must be our Ukrainian scenario for 2024. Specific operations with entirely specific justifications that will give Ukraine entirely specific results. Everything necessary for our state, our brigades, these specific results must be calculated precisely. This includes issues of mobilization. Everyone in Ukraine understands that changes are needed in this area. It’s not just about the number of those who can be mobilized. It’s about terms – for everyone currently in the military – for demobilization – and for those who will join the military. And it’s about conditions. These are comprehensive things that military leadership and the Ministry of Defense have to work out and present to the Staff for approval. Today, there were some proposals. I am waiting for integrated solutions.

Held several important meetings. Minister of Defense and his first deputy. Special, sensitive, non-public issues regarding the provision of our forces. And, a preparatory meeting before the next week. Ukraine’s participation in meaningful events, including international ones, is planned.

Today, we achieved a significant diplomatic outcome – Russia will no longer be part of the leadership of the International Maritime Organization. This is one of the largest and highly influential global institutions responsible for maritime safety. Obviously, the state-terrorist that turned the Black Sea into a battlefield cannot be among those influencing the activities of the International Maritime Organization. The entire week, we worked towards this decision – and it is a success. I am grateful to everyone who contributed to this.

Another thing.

Greeted the employees of the Prosecutor’s Office of Ukraine on their professional day. It is crucial that Ukraine works with all partners in the most knowledgeable, careful, and professional manner to properly document and substantiate Russian crimes against our people, war crimes against our state, with evidence to restore justice. I am grateful to everyone performing this work: prosecutors, detectives, investigators, experts, and criminalists. Also, to everyone worldwide supporting the efforts of our state. The team of the International Criminal Court is busy working with Ukrainian specialists. The investigations into the abduction of children by Russians in the occupied territories of our state, deportations. When Russian officials and criminals receive lawful and just sentences, especially for deporting our children, this will be the defense of humanity on which normal life in the world depends. The Prosecutor General, the system of prosecutor’s offices in Ukraine, and law enforcement agencies are approaching the necessary just result. I thanked them for this today.

Glory to all who fight and work for the interests of Ukraine and Ukrainians! Glory to our strongest nation. A nation that is strongest when it believes in itself and knows its goals.

We will definitely achieve our goal.

Glory to Ukraine!

For those of you marking Advent this season:

Advent Calendar: Ukrainian Ministry of Defense edition.

Today, we want to say thank you to our colleagues at @DeptOfDefense for their unwavering support, especially for providing us with M142 HIMARS.

This weapon became a true legend on the battlefield. It sends flaming gifts… pic.twitter.com/Xh47QKCB4Z

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) December 1, 2023

Advent Calendar: Ukrainian Ministry of Defense edition. Today, we want to say thank you to our colleagues at @DeptOfDefensefor their unwavering support, especially for providing us with M142 HIMARS.

This weapon became a true legend on the battlefield. It sends flaming gifts to occupiers on a daily basis and destroys russian equipment worth millions of dollars.

Stay tuned for more Weapons of Victory in our Advent Calendar.

#StandWithUkraine #UAMoDAdvent

For those wondering, here are Russia’s most recent mobilization numbers:

❗️Putin increased army personnel by 170,000. Russian armed forces now stand at 2,209,130, including 1,320,000 military personnel.

That 170,000 figure mirrors Russia's invasion count in February 2022.

Russian MoD links the armed forces surge to 'growing threats from a special…

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) December 1, 2023

❗️Putin increased army personnel by 170,000. Russian armed forces now stand at 2,209,130, including 1,320,000 military personnel.

That 170,000 figure mirrors Russia’s invasion count in February 2022.

Russian MoD links the armed forces surge to ‘growing threats from a special military operation and NATO’s ongoing expansion.’

There are a lot more Russians, including the ethnic minorities and convicts that Putin is preferring to use, than there are Ukrainians. And unlike President Zelenskyy and General Zaluzhnyi, Putin DOES NOT care how much blood and treasure he spends to achieve his genocidal objectives.

This is what Putin’s indifference has bought him:

Russia occupies 17.84% of Ukrainian territory as of December 2nd, 2023 pic.twitter.com/tYKWVZbT1B

— Ukraine Battle Map (@ukraine_map) December 1, 2023

And the effect on Ukraine:

Ukraine latest: President Zelensky has pushed to “accelerate” the construction of military fortifications at key points along the frontline in the east of the country where Russian forces have stepped up attacks in recent weeks.@FT live news: https://t.co/EQjRGH8yPJ

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) December 1, 2023

And Zelensky says the war with Russia is in a new stage, with a difficult winter ahead. https://t.co/JMHpgQOdQh

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) December 1, 2023

Here’s more from the AP’s interview of President Zelenskyy:

KHARKIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says the war with Russia is in a new stage, with winter expected to complicate fighting after a summer counteroffensive that failed to produce desired results due to enduring shortages of weapons and ground forces.

Despite setbacks, however, he said Ukraine won’t give up.

“We have a new phase of war, and that is a fact,” Zelenskyy said in an exclusive interview Thursday with The Associated Press in Kharkiv in northeastern Ukraine after a morale-boosting tour of the region. “Winter as a whole is a new phase of war.”

Asked if he was satisfied by the results of the counteroffensive, he gave a complex answer.

“Look, we are not backing down, I am satisfied. We are fighting with the second (best) army in the world, I am satisfied,” he said, referring to the Russian military. But he added: “We are losing people, I’m not satisfied. We didn’t get all the weapons we wanted, I can’t be satisfied, but I also can’t complain too much.”

Zelenskyy also said he fears the Israel-Hamas war threatens to overshadow the conflict in Ukraine, as competing political agendas and limited resources put the flow of Western military aid to Kyiv at risk.

And those concerns are amplified by the tumult that inevitably arises during a U.S. election year and its potential implications for his country, which has seen the international community largely rally around it following Russia’s Feb. 24, 2022, invasion.

The highly anticipated counteroffensive, powered by tens of billions of dollars in Western military aid, including heavy weaponry, did not forge the expected breakthroughs. Now, some Ukrainian officials worry whether further assistance will be as generous.

At the same time, ammunition stockpiles are running low, threatening to bring Ukrainian battlefield operations to a standstill.

With winter set to cloak a wartime Ukraine once again, military leaders must contend with new but familiar challenges as the conflict grinds toward the end of its second full year: There are freezing temperatures and barren fields that leave soldiers exposed. And there’s the renewed threat of widespread Russian aerial assaults in cities that target energy infrastructure and civilians.

On Nov. 25, Moscow launched its most extensive drone attack of the war, with most of the 75 Iranian-made Shahed drones targeting Kyiv in a troubling precedent for the months ahead.

“That is why a winter war is difficult,” Zelenskyy said.

He gave a frank appraisal of the last summer’s counteroffensive.

“We wanted faster results. From that perspective, unfortunately, we did not achieve the desired results. And this is a fact,” he said.

Ukraine did not get all the weapons it needed from allies, he said, and limits in the size of his military force precluded a quick advance, he said.

“There is not enough power to achieve the desired results faster. But this does not mean that we should give up, that we have to surrender,” Zelenskyy said. “We are confident in our actions. We fight for what is ours.”

White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby, responding to Zelenskyy’s comments about military aid, said the U.S. provided “unprecedented” support.

“I certainly can’t dispute President Zelenskyy’s estimation that they haven’t achieved the success that they had hoped to achieve,” Kirby said. “But I can assure you that the United States has done everything we can.”

U.S. President Joe Biden’s administration wants to give more but faces resistance from Republican representatives in Congress, Kirby said.

“And if we don’t get that support from Congress, the message it is going to send around the world about how much Ukraine matters and how much the United States and our leadership can deliver to our partners around the world is going to be loud and clear and deeply unfortunate,” Kirby said.

Zelenskyy said there were some positive takeaways from the last few months.

Ukraine managed to make incremental territorial gains against a better-armed and fortified enemy, Zelenskyy said.

In addition, the might of Moscow’s Black Sea Fleet has been diminished, following Ukrainian attacks that penetrated air defenses and struck its headquarters in occupied Crimea, Zelenskyy added.

And a temporary grain corridor established by Kyiv following Russia’s withdrawal from a wartime agreement to ensure the safe exports is still working.

Zelenskyy, though, isn’t dwelling on the past but is focused on the next stage — boosting domestic arms production.

A sizeable chunk of Ukraine’s budget is allocated for that, but current output is far from enough to turn the tide of war. Now, Zelenskyy is looking to Western allies, including the U.S., to offer favorable loans and contracts to meet that goal.

“This is the way out,” Zelenskyy said, adding that nothing terrifies Russia more than a militarily self-sufficient Ukraine.

When he last met with Biden, members of Congress and other top officials, he made one urgent appeal: Give Ukraine cheap loans and licenses to manufacture U.S. weaponry.

“Give us these opportunities, and we will build,” he said he told them. “Whatever effort and time it will take, we will do it, and we will do it very quickly.”

Zelenskyy remains concerned that upheaval in the Middle East, the most violent in decades, threatens to take global attention and resources away from Ukraine’s ability to defend itself.

“We already can see the consequences of the international community shifting (attention) because of the tragedy in the Middle East,” he said. “Only the blind don’t recognize this.”

Ukrainians understand “that we also need to fight for attention for the full-scale war,” he said. “We must not allow people to forget about the war here.”

That change in focus could lead to less economic and military assistance for his country, he said. In an apparent attempt to assuage those fears, U.S. and European officials have continued to visit Kyiv since the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel.

The shift still concerns him, Zelenskyy said.

“You see, attention equals help. No attention will mean no help. We fight for every bit of attention,” he said. “Without attention, there may be weakness in (the U.S.) Congress.”

Turning to the upcoming U.S. presidential and congressional campaigns, where Biden faces skepticism over his staunch support for Kyiv, Zelenskyy acknowledged that “elections are always a shock, and it is completely understandable.”

There is much more at the link.

Also, Kirby is full of crap. The United States has most assuredly NOT DONE EVERYTHING WE CAN!

For instance:

Ukraine will need to wait until next year before it receives its first big shipment of GLSDB.

Delivery to the U.S. by Boeing will take place in late December – followed by several months of testing before onward shipment to Ukraine. – Reuters https://t.co/CgRyQ3ll3U pic.twitter.com/QFk323tVxw

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) December 1, 2023

Kyiv:

Mobile air defence groups operating in the Kyiv area. Video from Lieutenant General and the Commander of the Joint Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Serhiy Naiev.https://t.co/vzlIgLx49O pic.twitter.com/gsMnAydJbq

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) December 1, 2023

Mariupol December 2021 versus December 2023:

Mariupol is Ukraine and Russia is a terrorist state. pic.twitter.com/Gwr2sWuFWG

— UNITED24 Media (@United24media) December 1, 2023

Avdiivka:

Avdiivka today.
The Russian World is coming in full swing. https://t.co/fneByJ4GaP

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) December 1, 2023

https://t.co/0sDRdEOzZw

— Мисливець за зорями (@small10space) December 1, 2023

Tatarigami has published an interview with a Ukrainian who has been volunteering in Avdiivka. Here’s the link to the full interview at his Frontline Intelligence site, which includes a lot more pictures than those he can fit into the tweet.

I am thrilled to present an incredible interview featuring Yana (@jana_skhidna), a 28-year-old Ukrainian volunteer who has recently returned from Avdiivka. It’s a highly illustrative story showcasing how people, specifically young Ukrainian women, continue to support Ukrainian… pic.twitter.com/gwWCNikytf

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) December 1, 2023

Here’s the rest of the text from the tweet:

I am thrilled to present an incredible interview featuring Yana (@jana_skhidna), a 28-year-old Ukrainian volunteer who has recently returned from Avdiivka. It’s a highly illustrative story showcasing how people, specifically young Ukrainian women, continue to support Ukrainian troops on the most dangerous frontlines. If you’re curious about what’s happening in Avdiivka and wish to hear a firsthand account from a location typically closed off to journalists and the general public, look no further. We found her answers insightful, so don’t miss out!

(Due to limitations on the number of images in a single post, you can explore the complete article on our project’s website. The link is available in my bio, offering more images shared by Yana.)

1. Hello! Could you please provide a brief introduction and tell us more about yourself?

Y (Yana): My name is Yana, and I am 28 years old. Before the full-scale invasion, I worked in the construction industry as a manager of construction projects. I dedicated a lot of time to learning English and took additional courses in ArchiCAD and LIRA-SAPR. A significant part of my free time and, in general, my life, was devoted to studying and improving my knowledge in the field of design. However, after February 24, everything changed. All construction projects that were planned for 2022-23 were canceled and frozen. Currently, I am busy in the field related to my economics education.

2. How and when did the war start for you?

Y: The war began for me in 2014. It was a very challenging period during which I experienced depression. I constantly felt unwell both physically and morally. Of course, this affected the learning process, at times impacting my performance, interaction, and communication with people. I worked with a psychologist. It was a huge blow for me to realize that, 1000 km away from where I was living, studying, and currently residing, the most terrible thing was happening – war. It was surreal for me that while I was performing mundane actions, someone was dying, someone was getting injured, homes were destroyed. It was shocking to see that despite these events, people could calmly attend classes, go to work, cafes, and clubs.

A part of what I loved was forever lost in 2014. It tore me apart to think that while I was attending an accounting class, there were ongoing military actions in the Donbas region. It was also challenging because many people said, “They themselves called for the Russian world,” “They wanted Putin,” “It’s because of them that there’s a war.” These were people who never knew the history of Eastern Ukraine and never understood it.

3. When and why did you decide to become a volunteer? (In Ukraine, the term “volunteer” refers to individuals engaged in providing military and humanitarian aid to both military personnel and civilians. These volunteers contribute by fundraising, purchasing, and delivering essential goods to military units and civilians on the frontlines.)

Y: It seems that, like many others, it all started for me with weaving camouflage nets. Yes, there were requests for them, and we were told how important it was and how it helps our defenders. It was enough for me as a second-year student at that time. But, as I shared earlier, I found these events deeply painful, and I wanted to do more. I spent my entire scholarship on supporting the Armed Forces of Ukraine (ZSU). It wasn’t about large-scale fundraising; I didn’t inquire about who was buying what and why. We had local volunteers and civic organizations in Chernivtsi (which are still active), and I financially supported them. It was important to me. At that time, intense battles were taking place in Donetsk Airport (DAP), Debaltseve, Ilovaisk, and so on. It was heart-wrenching, and I felt the need to be somehow involved in providing assistance.

Later, my mother and I started preparing homemade treats, and I delivered them to the military hospitals in our city. Every Tuesday, I would enter a random ward to visit the soldiers. There was a period when I consistently donated and supported the army without hesitation. Again, my mother always assisted me—whether it was making Easter bread for the soldiers or baking Christmas cookies to send to the front lines.

When the full-scale invasion began, on February 25th, my father and I filled our car with essential items and headed to the Territorial Defense headquarters in our city. We collected items for units that were being prepared and sent to the East. We were also helping civilians – by evacuating people from Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkiv, Kyiv oblast, and evacuating animals, transferring them to Europe. Only when I completed my second higher education in May 2022 did we start going on humanitarian missions directly to the frontlines.

4. What is the essence of volunteering and who are volunteers?

Y: The essence of volunteering is perhaps in selfless work, in ongoing activities aimed not at gaining profit or any other additional benefits. Volunteering is, above all, the opportunity to influence environment, to initiate one’s own projects, and to change the country. When people become volunteers, they not only get a chance to express themselves, get new knowledge and skills, but also strive to make the lives of others better.

I believe that each person who calls themselves a “volunteer” has their own motives that prompted them to engage in this activity. For me, it is primarily patriotism and the fact that my country is at war. Parts of our land are immersed in pain, suffering, and blood. And then, it is about fulfilling the needs of the less fortunate, gaining new experience in working with people, organizing, and conducting various social projects.

Currently, the activities of the majority of volunteers and volunteer organizations in Ukraine are focused on helping the military, supporting refugees, and assisting people affected by the war. Because this is our own, our homeland, and I simply cannot comprehend or accept how one can be indifferent to this movement in such challenging times.

5. You’ve been to many cities and villages that were destroyed by Russian forces. What impressed you the most during your volunteer trips?

Y: Oh, here one could talk for days and nights because for almost 2 years of trips to the front and near-front cities and villages, there were many different situations and moments when I could cry and scream from pain and despair, when we laughed, probably hysterical laughter, when we said goodbye to life dozens of times and rejoiced because an important evacuation had succeeded, and when we scolded ourselves for arriving late.

I approach each of our trips calmly. For me, it’s like going to work, with one important nuance. I perceive it as work because I go to various locations to work with civilians and the military, to help them.

This time, I’ll share just one incident from our recent trip. We were working specifically along the Mariinka direction, and we entered the village of Maksymilianivka, just 5 km from Mariinka, or more precisely, the stones and ruins left of it. Before the war, 3000 people lived there; now, there are probably around 100. Maybe more, maybe less – it’s hard to count accurately because it’s constantly under shelling, and people hide in their homes, rarely coming out. In Maksymilianivka, they don’t allow entry without an escort; everyone is checked at the checkpoint. And it was the last day of our trip: we traveled to Avdiivka and its surroundings, Bakhmut direction, Vuhledar direction – everywhere destruction, grief, no communication, and here we enter a house in Maksymilianivka, and there’s light. It so impressed me, and I said to my colleague, “Wow, there’s light here, it’s a real miracle!”

In the midst of terrible devastation in the village, constant shelling, lack of communication, and internet just 5 km from the front line, we saw light in a house. The thing is, electricians stay there, and despite the constant threat of artillery, MLRS shelling, and Orlan drones, these people work until the last moment and provide light to the people who stay in the village. Our people will probably never cease to amaze me.

6. Let’s talk about the painful – Avdiivka. Tell me about your personal impressions from the recent visits.

Y: Avdiivka is my personal pain and a wound that has probably been with me all my life. Working and helping in Avdiivka – I mean both the military and civilians – is like living another life. Perhaps, after the war, I will write a book about it because so much has been experienced there. A lot of things that I cannot always talk about, and things that need to be told and shown to those who come after us, so that these things and stories are not forgotten.

I remember Avdiivka differently, in every season, and, of course, it hurts every time… as if for the first time when, instead of a city, I see piles of rubble and construction debris, and on the way to the city, instead of the outlines of a giant industry, I see clouds of black-black smoke from the next shelling…

I’m not saying it for the last time because I know that we will still work in the Avdiivka direction – and the last time I was there on my birthday.

On November 18, we woke up at 4 in the morning to load humanitarian aid for civilians and equipment for the military, so that by 6:00, a maximum at 6:30 AM, we would already be in the city. Avdiivka now is 22 km of a constantly shelled road. There are sections where enemy UAVs are actively working, so, as we say, we need to “skip” quickly. We entered without headlights, quickly, with open windows in the car to hear enemy UAVs.

The landscape in Avdiivka changes every night. Dozens of air strikes per day turn the city into complete ruins. There are fewer and fewer places for shelter, constant “KABs” (Guided Aerial Bombs), the scariest thing imaginable, when a building collapses like a house of cards before your eyes – I’ve seen that only in apocalyptic movies.

If you work with civilians: humanitarian aid and evacuation – everything needs to be done in the morning and very quickly. After the morning, the Russians fly with Orlans (recon UAV); they observe, and determine where there are groups of people (3 or more), from which building smoke is coming from a home stove, and KABs target it. Just damned scum waging war on absolutely unarmed and defenseless people.

It’s very hard for me when through the window of a burned, black building with broken windows, I see remnants of life – a small intact chandelier that will never shine again, winter clothes on the shelves that no one will ever wear, and neatly arranged books.

But every damn time we enter this city, and at the entrance, Ukrainian flags greet us, it adds strength and motivation to move forward. I want everyone, both here and around the world, to realize the price we pay to see these blue-yellow flags in Avdiivka, and what irreparable losses we suffer. When I see our tired, exhausted soldiers who clearly say, “It’s hard, but we’re fighting,” I understand that we have no right to get tired and stop. I’m ready to sacrifice my health, but I will be sure that I did everything to protect and help the bravest people in our country and our city, Avdiivka.

7. In your opinion, why is Avdiivka so important for the Russians?

Y: Avdiivka, like a bone in the throat of our enemies, has remained an impregnable fortress. Unfortunately, this fortress is now forced to defend itself. As they say now, “capturing Avdiivka is purely a political goal” for these damn Russians and Putin in particular. They need victories. But a victory over what? Over peaceful people who have been deprived of their homes or because they destroyed the entire city?!

Avdiivka is the gateway to Donetsk. From there, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have the opportunity to control the presence of the enemy in the oblast center, even by preventing them from moving certain vehicles and ammunition around the city. So, of course, they want to push the front line away from Donetsk. Another point, Avdiivka is probably the only defensive area that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have not lost from 2014 to 2022. That is, during the time when there were large and difficult battles for Soledar, Bakhmut, Lysychansk, Severodonetsk, etc., their advances in Avdiivka were insignificant. Only the surrounding settlements from Avdiivka were lost to the Russians, and that was very long and very difficult for them. And another logistical component. I believe and will always believe that Avdiivka is a symbol of resistance. Probably even the Russians understand this, and that’s why they are pushing so hard in this direction. You have to look at the map and understand that Avdiivka is precisely that outpost that, from 2015 to the present, has practically not moved forward or backward. It’s a strong defensive zone that has been fortified.

8. Do you agree with the opinion that when the Russians cannot quickly surround a city, they systematically destroy it?

Y: Yes, I often think about it… Bakhmut, Popasna, Rubizhne, Severodonetsk, Lysychansk, Svatove, Kremenna, Mariinka, Vuhledar, Mariupol, Avdiivka, Krasnohorivka, Siversk, Soledar, and so on… and these are just the territories of Donetsk and Luhansk that Russia has destroyed, erased below the foundations. Once peaceful, flourishing, industrial or not, these cities may never be rebuilt. And how many villages? It’s impossible to count. Millions of destroyed homes and millions of shattered human lives.

And when they write in their damn publics about the “liberation” of Donbas, I am disgusted with this phrase. Because it is total destruction. In some points of Avdiivka, the destruction is so catastrophic, but it is still being bombed, that I can no longer remember what this city looked like before. Avdiivka is a city where no building is suitable for even a major reconstruction. Also, a key location in Avdiivka was the AKHZ – once the largest coke-chemical plant in Europe, and a city formed around it. If the plant cannot be restored, there will be no more Avdiivka. All the industry of Avdiivka is destroyed, ruined, and brought to a state where it simply can never function again. Probably, this is what they seek – to destroy even the industrial potential of this region so that after the war, it will be simply unusable. These are absolute degenerates, despicable degenerates with nothing sacred, who just, for the sake of entertainment or idiocy induced by imperialist propaganda, destroy everything: schools, hospitals, kindergartens, abandoned warehouse buildings, residential and non-residential buildings.

When there is no success on the battlefield, they show their vile power through terror against civilians and through the total destruction of the city. Take, for example, Popasna – they just destroyed the city and announced that they would not rebuild it, and now they are using it as a military base.

9. I know that many Ukrainians trust you and constantly try to help. Do you feel foreign aid from ordinary citizens or organizations?

Y: Yes, as strange as it may sound, during this terrible war, there are pleasant moments, such as meeting incredible and strong people or receiving feedback from people. Trust from the community is the best thing anyone can receive. And of course, I am very pleased to receive trust and support from my fellow citizens and from foreigners. Getting help and support from the civilized world is very valuable to us. I always mention and sincerely thank Ukrainians abroad and foreigners in general for supporting the Avdiivka front. Sometimes people, when they see where we are going, how and where we work, say, “I want to help the defenders of Avdiivka!” I repeat, this is very important to me. It is important that the world sees the crimes that the Russians are committing in the once-small industrial city of Avdiivka.

Avdiivka is currently closed to journalists, so it is important to show how the city lives and fights, that there are still civilians here, and that the Russians are committing genocide against them. I am very grateful to everyone who supports our fundraisers for the defenders of Avdiivka, and to those who simply support me with warm words and wishes for success, because now it is more dangerous in Avdiivka than ever.

10. How can one help the defenders of Avdiivka? Are there any urgent needs that need to be addressed?

Y: Today, once again, I spoke with servicemen from the 110th Separate Mechanized Brigade, who have been firmly defending this direction since March 2022. The primary need is for combat equipment! There is also a shortage of personnel. Additionally, there is a constant need for drones: daytime, nighttime, strike, and FPV drones for installing surveillance cameras on various objects. Maximum unity and concentration of efforts are required. We must show that we are a reliable and worthy support for our defenders on the front lines.

11. After the war, what would you like to do?

Y: Certainly, I would like to return to my former job in the construction industry. I hope to resume working in the field of design. However, it is very difficult to imagine what life will be like after the war. In any case, I can never go back to my previous life. Our work will continue in one way or another, with a lot of tasks in the de-occupied territories, working with civilians, and humanitarian missions. But yes, along with that, I would still like to engage in design.

12. What places would you recommend for foreigners to visit in Ukraine?

Y: Currently, this is a very difficult and painful question for me because dozens of places I would recommend to visit to immerse oneself in the culture, better understand the locality, and experience the uniqueness of the region are unfortunately either destroyed, no longer exist, or are in temporary occupation.

Of course, I would like to recommend visiting Donetsk – as we used to call it, the “City of a Million Roses.” Or Soledar, there was something to be surprised about in Soledar: remnants of the ancient Permian Sea, industrial objects, steppe landscapes, vast lakes, and even “Martian landscapes.” And, of course, the salt mines. There, the descent is almost 300 meters deep, where there used to be a salt mining museum, a salt football field, a naturally occurring salt crystal the size of a human, sculptures created by local craftsmen, and a special hall for symphonic concerts. I also really liked the Avdiivka quarry, or as the locals called it, the “Maldives of Avdiivka.” They used to extract quartz sand there. The former industrial zone eventually turned into a local landmark. It had clean and cool water. But many, many other places were destroyed and ruined by the Russians.

So, I would recommend visiting the Carpathian Mountains. Take a walk through the wooded hills and blooming meadows, and definitely climb the highest mountain – Hoverla.

If you wish to provide direct assistance to the defenders of Avdiivka, kindly visit Yana’s account:

підари мають успіх пд Новокалинового, безперервні штурми на Степовому, пд очисних (АКХЗ) мали частковий успіх, на промці😔

вони лізуть з усіх щілин, використовують важкі бомби

НАШИМ потрібен бк і надійний тил🙏🏼 тому більше дронів = менше кацапів

(рр – [email protected]) pic.twitter.com/kmC5ygdo1y

— 🌹яна східна (@jana_skhidna) November 27, 2023

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Kherson Oblast:

Interception of Shaheed kamikaze drones tonight over Kherson region. https://t.co/GxcOJbNaHC pic.twitter.com/yCzU9kLN0f

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) December 1, 2023

Nova Maiachka, Kherson Oblast:

Strike on administration building in Nova Maiachka, Kherson region.
(46.5993972, 33.2242458)
P.S: Russian military trucks hiding behind the building are visible on the photos.

It is also reported that recently the number of Russians in Nova Maiachka and Chaplynka area of the… pic.twitter.com/8JpBZNgeJT

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) December 1, 2023

Strike on administration building in Nova Maiachka, Kherson region.
(46.5993972, 33.2242458)
P.S: Russian military trucks hiding behind the building are visible on the photos.

It is also reported that recently the number of Russians in Nova Maiachka and Chaplynka area of the Kherson region has increased significantly.

Zalizhnyi Port, Kherson Oblast:

Personal videos of a Russian soldier recording the looting of Ukrainian houses in the Zaliznyi Port, Kherson region.
Russian was identified: Sergey Eltsov from Murmansk born in 1990.https://t.co/4CXJTturTFhttps://t.co/M3ONTIQhi9 pic.twitter.com/VQU7K5dbC1

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) December 1, 2023

Hopefully someone will terminate this scumbag with extremely prejudice.

The Republic of Buryatia, Russia:

/2. Location of the Severomuyskiy tunnel in Buryatia. 4750km from Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/Rc8erxjHG4

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) December 1, 2023

Yesterday, Russian media began reporting that a train carrying fuel caught fire while moving in the Severomuysky tunnel in Buryatia.

In the evening of the same day, Russian media again reported that a train caught fire in the Severomuysky tunnel. The train caught fire on the bypass track and also carried fuel.

And this morning, Russian media reported that it was a sabotage:

“On November 30, unknown persons blew up a freight train in the North Sea tunnel consisting of 50 cars (41 tanks with diesel fuel and 3 tanks with aviation fuel). According to the locomotive crew, during the passage of the tunnel the tension was relieved and the train slowed down. While the members of the brigade were figuring out what was going on, heavy smoke began to appear in the tunnel – the brigade left the tunnel.

As a result of the explosion, 1 tank of the train burned out, and a hole was found in two tanks. After the explosion, it was possible to remove 14 tanks, but further transportation of the cars is not yet possible – the explosion seriously damaged the rails, and the leaked fuel flooded them.

Later, another train was blown up in the same area. 4 tanks of the train burned out, two more were damaged by fire.”

Ukrainian media and some western media according to their sources related to SBU say that it was a work of the Security Service of Ukraine
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/11/30/europe/russia-train-fire-ukraine-intl/index.html

Another incident in Buryatia has been reported. According to the Russian TG channel “Mash” an IED was planted on the tracks.

“The explosive device detonated on the night of November 29-30, four kilometers from the village of Taksimo.
In total, the train contained 41 tank cars… pic.twitter.com/6y4ZEWwSMD

— (((Tendar))) (@Tendar) December 1, 2023

Another incident in Buryatia has been reported. According to the Russian TG channel “Mash” an IED was planted on the tracks.

“The explosive device detonated on the night of November 29-30, four kilometers from the village of Taksimo.
In total, the train contained 41 tank cars with fuel, 3 with aviation fuel and 6 with ferrous metal. No (human) casualties are reported.”

This is the same night where 100km away from this incident the other train in the Severomuysky Tunnel was struck. Kyiv Post said that a Ukrainian operation of the SBU is responsible for the strike and the SBU is certainly capable of this, but there could be also another explanation. The people of Buryatia are disproportionately used in Russia’s wars and suffered huge losses. I wouldn’t be surprised that this is the work of rebels. But that is speculation on my part.

Either way, Moscow has more problems in the Far East than it is willing to admit. Chelyabinsk suffered also a huge blow when the tractor factory was compromised some days ago.

Source: https://t.me/breakingmash/49833

#Ukraine #Russia #Buryatia

For Omnes:

Jingle Bells

📹: @DPSU_ua pic.twitter.com/aKyCfSGAwU

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) December 1, 2023

That’s enough for tonight.

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Top-secret bio lab cultivating Ukraine’s elite SOF killer birds in action pic.twitter.com/1e7oo3UszK

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) December 1, 2023

Best friends.

📷: 53rd Mechanized Brigade pic.twitter.com/e71M8HEuPK

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) December 1, 2023

Look at those jowls!

And a new video from Patron’s official TikTok:

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Santos, baby! (a little something for the occasion, by Subaru Dianne)

by WaterGirl|  December 1, 20238:15 pm| 63 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Here’s a great little parody from Subaru Dianne – to mark the occasion of Santos being expelled from the House.

I think it’s wonderful.  I guess maybe SD couldn’t figure out what to rhyme with “punchable face”?

Santos, baby.
They kicked you out of Congress today.
Hooray.
Celebratin’ the news,
Santos, baby,
Good riddance to a pitiful fraud.

Santos, honey,
You victimised and cheated and broke
The folk,
Took their money and ran,
Santos, cutie,
So hurry up and leave us, you fraud.

Think of all
The lies you told.
Think of all the veterans freezing in the cold.
I’ll rejoice, you fucking hack,
If you just leave and don’t come back.

Santos, baby,
You probably should visit, I think,
The clink.
Lock you up, toss the key,
Santos, baby,
Get out, you sanctimonious fraud.

Totally open thread.

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Friday Evening Open Thread: Hopefully, Leonard Leo Will Be Going Through Some Things

by Anne Laurie|  December 1, 20236:04 pm| 136 Comments

This post is in: Activist Judges!, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Venality

BREAKING:

The Senate Judiciary Committee has just voted to approve subpoenas for conservative activist Leonard Leo and GOP megadonor Harlan Crow in its Supreme Court ethics probe.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) November 30, 2023

I feel like this development got overlooked yesterday, in the general news barrage. Per Huffpost, “Senate Judiciary Committee Approves Subpoenas In Supreme Court Ethics Probe”:

After a combative two-hour hearing, the Senate judiciary committee on Thursday approved subpoenas to compel the appearance of billionaire Republican donor Harlan Crow and conservative legal activist Leonard Leo.

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the chairman, bypassed 177 amendments filed by Republicans and abruptly held the vote in response to a last-minute GOP effort to thwart the entire process. Every Republican walked out of the hearing as soon as the vote began. The final tally was 11 Democrats voting yes to the subpoenas, no Republicans voting at all.

Crow, a Texas real estate magnate, became the focus of scrutiny after reports by ProPublica revealed that Justice Clarence Thomas did not disclose millions of dollars in gifts Crow gave him in the form of luxury travel and accommodation, real estate purchases and private school tuition for years. Leo, the architect of the conservative takeover of the Supreme Court, also found himself in the spotlight after a ProPublica report showed that he helped arrange an expensive trip, paid for by another conservative billionaire, that Justice Samuel Alito failed to disclose.

Durbin previously sent letters to Crow and Leo asking them to voluntarily appear before the committee for questioning. But both declined, claiming that the separation of powers somehow inoculated them, despite being private citizens, from having to appear before Congress. Their refusals prompted Durbin to pursue subpoenas…

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The subpoenas are part of an investigation by the committee into the Supreme Court’s failure to adopt a binding and enforceable ethics code that would prevent violations like those committed by Thomas and Alito. Durbin, along with Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), sponsored legislation to impose such a code on the court…

An attempt to approve the subpoenas for Crow and Leo on Nov. 9 ended after Republicans introduced 88 amendments that covered everything from immigration to subpoenaing the private flight records of the late financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said the committee’s action was an “important step” in ensuring accountability for Leo and Crow, “who have both used their power and wealth to gain undisclosed access to Supreme Court Justices.”

“Having these very same billionaires who are pushing cases through the Court have the ability to travel in jets and go to resorts and buy them gifts ― it’s just outrageous,” Schumer said on the Senate floor. “Today, Senate Democrats are taking action to look under the hood and make sure we increase transparency, which these subpoenas would do.”

The fact the Repubs are willing to beclown themselves to this extent shows just *how* dangerous such an investigation will be for their whole corrupt enterprise. There will, of course, be endless legal delays along the way… which is one more excellent reason to make sure President Biden is still in the Oval Office next February…

The Senate Judiciary Committee investigating Supreme Court ethics votes to authorize subpoenas of Clarence Thomas benefactor Harlan Crow and Federalist Society co-chair Leonard Leo as Republicans walk out in protest. pic.twitter.com/Smix3Rsscs

— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) November 30, 2023

NEW: Dems on the Senate Judiciary just suspended the rules that would have allowed Republicans to procedurally drown subpoenas for Leonard Leo and Harlan Crow with amendments. All republicans walked out. Dems voted to subpoena Crow and Leo. EXCELLENT.

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) November 30, 2023

Friday Evening Open Thread:  Leonard Leo Will Be Going Through Some Things 1

Friday Evening Open Thread:  Leonard Leo Will Be Going Through Some Things

Senate panel subpoenas Harlan Crow, Leonard Leo in SCOTUS ethics probe
It’s about time!
Clarence Thomas is most corrupt justice ever
He must be held accountable
Congress must pass Ethics Code for top court at once
It’s urgent#ProudBlue #DemVoice1 #Freshhttps://t.co/WZfdKJchSj pic.twitter.com/bBvATwJywG

— warren swil (@warrenswil) December 1, 2023

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Open Thread: Friday Good News Roundup

by WaterGirl|  December 1, 20232:35 pm| 180 Comments

This post is in: Democratic Politics, Open Threads, Politics

The DC Circuit rules that Donald Trump CAN be sued for inciting the Jan. 6 crowd. First hurdle cleared!

Trump hasn’t won this case, by any means, but this ruling says that Trump did not demonstrate that he was entitled to have the case dismissed because of President’s official-act immunity. 

Harry Litman calls this a giant step forward toward holding Trump accountable for Jan 6, and a big win for jack Smith and the American people.  It will be interesting to see if our BJ attorneys agree.  From the decision: (bolding is mine, for those of you who aren’t included to read 4 long paragraphs.)

In arguing that he is entitled to official-act immunity in the cases before us, President Trump does not dispute that he engaged in his alleged actions up to and on January 6 in his capacity as a candidate. But he thinks that does not matter. Rather, in his view, a President’s speech on matters of public concern is invariably an official function, and he was engaged in that function when he spoke at the January 6 rally and in the leadup to that day. We cannot accept that rationale. While Presidents are often exercising official responsibilities when they speak on matters of public concern, that is not always the case. When a sitting President running for re-election speaks in a campaign ad or in accepting his political party’s nomination at the party convention, he typically speaks on matters of public concern. Yet he does so in an unofficial, private capacity as office-seeker, not an official capacity as office-holder. And actions taken in an unofficial capacity cannot qualify for official-act immunity.

While we thus reject President Trump’s argument for official-act immunity at this stage, that result is necessarily tied to the need to assume the truth of the plaintiffs’ factual allegations at this point in the proceedings. President Trump has not had a chance to counter those allegations with facts of his own. When these cases move forward in the district court, he must be afforded the opportunity to develop his own facts on the immunity question if he desires to show that he took the actions alleged in the complaints in his official capacity as President rather than in his unofficial capacity as a candidate. At the appropriate time, he can move for summary judgment on his claim of official-act immunity.

Because our decision is not necessarily even the final word on the issue of presidential immunity, we of course express no view on the ultimate merits of the claims against President Trump. Nor do we have any occasion to address his other defenses, including his claim that his alleged actions fall within the protections of the First Amendment because they did not amount to incitement of imminent lawless action: he did not seek appellate review at this time of the district court’s denial of his First Amendment defense, but he could bring that issue before us in the future. We also do not opine on whether executive or other privileges might shield certain evidence from discovery or use as the litigation proceeds. Nor does our decision on a President’s official-act immunity from damages liability in a civil suit treat with whether or when a President might be immune from criminal prosecution.

Instead, we hold only that, taking the allegations in the plaintiffs’ complaints as true as we must at this point in the proceedings, President Trump has not demonstrated an entitlement to dismissal of the claims against him based on a President’s official-act immunity. In the proceedings ahead in the district court, President Trump will have the opportunity to show that his alleged actions in the runup to and on January 6 were taken in his official capacity as President rather than in his unofficial capacity as presidential candidate.

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In related Trump legal news, one of Trump’s lawyers – Jennifer Little – was ordered to testify in the classified documents case this week – if you guessed attorney client privilege pierced because of the crime fraud exception, you win.  Something.  I’ll spare you her photo, but she looks just like you would expect a female attorney hired by Trump to look. (How did he ever hook up with Sydney Powell as an attorney”  Maybe she’s the exception that proves the rule?)

In any case, this one was smart enough to explain the issue to Trump in unmistakable language:

“Once this (affidavit) is signed, if anything else is located, it’s going to be a crime”

Trump’s attorney explained the situation to him like he was a 5 year old.

He acknowledged he understood and nonchalantly did it anyway.

…and here we are.

— Jack E. Smith ⚖️ (@7Veritas4) November 30, 2023

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Dick Durbin Grows a Pair!

“It’s called precedent,” the Senate Judiciary Committee chair said of violating the same rule that Republicans ignored to move forward with judicial nominees.

(Personally, I would have gone with “It’s called precedent, you fuckers!”, but that’s just me.)

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It wasn’t until after Democrats voted out both nominees and the complaints had somewhat subsided that Durbin had a chance to spell out why this was happening: He was following a precedent set by the last two Republican chairs of the committee, who violated the same committee rule to advance nominees and legislation without giving Democrats a chance to weigh in.
In other words, Durbin was giving Republicans a taste of their own medicine.

“The two preceding chairs of this committee violated the letter and spirit of Committee Rule IV,” he said, referring to a committee rule that requires at least one member of the minority to vote with the majority to end debate on a matter before moving to vote on it.

Durbin said one former chair, Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), violated this rule with a vote on Brett Kavanaugh’s Supreme Court nomination, and Graham was chair when he broke the rule to advance a partisan immigration bill without Democratic input.

“In doing so, Republicans established a new precedent that I followed on one occasion last Congress and will follow again today,” said the Illinois Democrat. “I’ve said time and again there cannot be one set of rules for Republicans and a different set for Democrats.”

I am not a big fan of Huffington Post, but the whole article is delicious, with one Republican after another expressing disbelief that Durbin would do that, even though the Rs did it when they were in the majority. hahaha

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And of course, Santos has been expelled!

Any other good news to celebrate?

Open thread.

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Santos Booted

by Betty Cracker|  December 1, 202311:19 am| 201 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

From TPM’s Kate Riga:

Rep. George Santos’ (R-NY) short, but, by any measure, extraordinary political career crashed to its ignominious end Friday as he was expelled from Congress by over a third of his own conference.

Santos, wearing a coat and watching the totals accumulate, walked around the House floor and shook hands with some of his supporters as it quickly became clear that he’d lose the vote.

Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) gaveled the vote to a close, and said that the governor of New York would be notified. A smattering of applause followed his remarks.

Riga noted that in a press conference yesterday, Santos indicated knew this was coming and was already focused on post-congressional life:

“The future — the future is endless,” Santos said, smiling, as he wrapped up his Thursday press conference, the sun breaking over the House office buildings. “You can do whatever you want next. I’m going to do whatever I want.”

Hopefully he wants to try to make a lot of money by peddling scandalous stories about former GOP colleagues. Maybe they’ll even be true! But who would believe him?

Open thread.

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FL GOP Chair Accused of Rape, Sexual Battery

by Betty Cracker|  December 1, 20237:22 am| 357 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality

The Sarasota Police Department is investigating a sexual assault allegation against Christian Ziegler, chairman of the Republican Party of Florida. The complaint was made by a woman who says she has been in a consensual three-way relationship for several years with Ziegler and his wife, Moms for Liberty co-founder Bridget Ziegler. The accuser also alleges there are videos, and the ongoing investigation of the October incident included a forensic search of Ziegler’s phone.

In response to a request for a complaint filed against Ziegler, the Sarasota police provided the Tampa Bay Times with a heavily redacted report from early October that only revealed a few words, including “raped” and “sexually battered.” Nearly all other details from the report, including names, were blacked out, with police citing, in part, an active criminal investigation.

This news broke yesterday via an outfit I don’t think I’ve heard of before, The Florida Center for Government Accountability. Many details in their account are attributed to anonymous sources, but they were right about the investigation, which no one else was covering.

I can easily believe that moralizing family values-type Republicans who constantly lie about queer people corrupting children are secretly living double lives as swingers and rapists — that happens so frequently there are “not a drag queen” memes to go with incidents. But are these accusations true?

The reaction of the Zieglers’ local party and Moms for Liberty makes me suspect there’s something to it. Whereas Republican outfits usually back their people to the hilt and try to dismiss accusations as politically motivated, these organizations sound like they’re gearing up for a PR crisis.

On Thursday, the Moms for Liberty account on X, formerly known as Twitter, posted: “Yet another attempt today to ruin the reputation of a strong woman fighting for America. … We stand with @BridgetAZiegler & every other badass woman fighting for kids & America.”

The post was later deleted.

The Republican Party of Sarasota County said in a statement it was “shocked and disappointed to hear of the reports” concerning the Zieglers.

”The Republican Party takes all such allegations of potential criminal conduct very seriously and will fully cooperate with investigators,” the group said.

If true, this is a huge deal because of the Zieglers’ close ties to both the Trump and DeSantis camps. Ziegler won the party chair seat over a Tallahassee-based opponent in what was widely seen as a proxy battle between Trump and DeSantis supporters.

Bridget Ziegler not only leads Moms for Liberty, she’s a DeSantis-endorsed member of the Sarasota school board, swept into power on promises to Christianize public education by banning books and persecuting trans people. Bridget Ziegler whipped up support for the Don’t Say Gay law, and she’s one of several prominent culture war kooks/grifters the governor appointed to the oversight board he created to replace Disney World’s existing municipal services board.

We’ll see how this unfolds. The Zieglers’ activities could give new meaning to Florida’s former reputation as a “swing state.” Meanwhile, there’s probably not a single kernel of un-popped corn in the entire peninsula.

Open thread!

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Chill Grey Pre-Dawn Open Thread: Timeline Respite

by Anne Laurie|  December 1, 20233:49 am| 48 Comments

This post is in: Cat Blogging, Open Threads

ancient cat toy pic.twitter.com/WerNhiFh6L

— cats being weird little guys (@weirdlilguys) November 19, 2023

Play to your strengths!
Chill Grey Pre-Dawn Open Thread:  Timeline Respite

well, half the time, the other half the time it's a fact that you genuinely weren't taught but only because it isn't true https://t.co/FqfKlOFrXn

— flglmn (@flglmn) November 17, 2023

that's true the other category is genuinely weren't taught plus actually true fact but the fact is something like did you know the inventor of the second plastic button molding machine had a cat with the most adorable little feet https://t.co/rnziWt0B9u

— flglmn (@flglmn) November 17, 2023

I would actually watch an Olympics with this kind of color commentary!

C’mon Megan ????@theestallion stars in a new promo for the 2024 Paris @Olympics ?? pic.twitter.com/HVSu5vzdPv

— Okayplayer (@okayplayer) November 24, 2023

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