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The Israeli-Hamas War of October 2023

by Adam L Silverman|  October 7, 20231:08 pm| 158 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Israel, Military, Open Threads, Silverman on Security, War

Simchat Torah begins tonight at Sundown. The holiday celebrates the Deity giving the Torah/Law to the Israelites, which is a major portion of the conditions of the covenant between the Deity and Jews. It is usually a very raucous, celebratory, and joyous holiday including lots of singing, dancing, drinking, and eating.

💥Over 100 dead & over 900 wounded thus far in Israel today

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

💥💥💥Israeli radio stations have been turned over to open lines for desperate, shattered citizens calling in to share their phone numbers and beg, beg for help. Total system collapse.

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

In an interview on @MSNBC I said that the invasion from Gaza is Israel's 911 and that what Hamas did in the Israeli villages near the border is like the Russian massacre in Bucha. Watch it here: pic.twitter.com/7HwH7mSNHT

— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) October 7, 2023

Here’s what we know so far. Hamas, with support/assistance from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) has made a major cross border attack into southern Israel. This appears to have been a complete security and intelligence failure, as well as immediate governmental response collapse, by the Israeli government and its security services.

💥It has been eight (8) hours, more than 40 dead, at least 800 wounded, and no Israeli government representative has stood in front of cameras and spoken to the people. Its a complete collapse. https://t.co/IzVBv8gdME

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

The BBC reported in their 11:29 AM update that:

Israel Defense Forces: We are fighting in 22 locations
More from the Israel Defense Forces, who have confirmed their troops are fighting in 22 locations in a statement.

“There is no community in southern Israel where we do not have forces,” it says.

Hamas has claimed they have captured senior Israeli officers and will use them to negotiate for release of Hamas prisoners in Israel. According to the BBC the IDF is denying that Hamas did not capture a major general.

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There are numerous social media reports, including videos, that Hamas has captured a number of female Israeli military personnel and brought them back to Gaza. Basically there’s three videos and two pictures. None of them are being posted by any official or verifiable – and I don’t mean an $8 a month blue check for Elon verifiable account – many of them from India. It is unclear in any of them if these women are in fact in the IDF. None of them are in uniform. One is in heavily soiled grey sweat pants, another in a green 1/4 zip top and black yoga type tights. This woman may be in both a video and one of the still images as the clothing sort of matches. Another appears to be in pajamas sitting on a divan. The audio is so garbled because so many men are yelling that it is impossible to tell what the woman in the green top is screaming or in what language. If they are young Israeli women then one would expect they are either within their two year mandatory period of military service or in the reserves. However, Hamas has been known to stage these types of things.

There is also a video on social media of two men sitting in the bed of a truck with their feet on the back of a dead woman. There is blood matted in the back of her hair, her face is not visible, and she is stripped to her underwear and is wearing what appear to be black rubber or leather over the calf boots with a zipper up the side and rubber soles, not combat boots. This is being promoted as Hamas is parading the corpse of a female Israeli Soldier through the streets of Gaza. She is definitely dead.

I’m not going to post any of that stuff here.

Current Israeli civil rights lawyer and former Shin Bet (Israel’s internal security service) coordinator Gonen Ben Itzhak posted this at 4:09 AM:

💥 "My father, Brig Gen (ret) Uzi Ben Yitzchak, asked me to ask why they're not saying the truth: that 26 battalions, almost all the regular IDF, is in the territories. There is almost no army in the south. All this due to a decision of the extreme right-wing government." https://t.co/e6np4bKhDg

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

Here’s Ben Itzhak’s full tweet with (machine) translation (as my Hebrew is very, very rusty!):

אבא שלי, תא"ל עוזי בן יצחק, שהיה רמ"ט פיקוד מרכז, ביקש ממני לשאול למה לא אומרים את האמת: 26 גדודים, כמעט כל צה"ל הסדיר נמצא בשטחים. אין צבא כמעט בדרום. כל זה בהחלטת ממשלה ימנית וקיצונית.

צריך לומר את זה ברור.

צריך להעביר כוחות מהגדה לעזה ולסגור בכל מחיר את הגדר ולא לתת להם…

— Gonen Ben Itzhak גונן בן יצחק (@GONENB1) October 7, 2023

Here’s the machine translation of the Hebrew: (I’m exceedingly rusty, so this is the better option)

My father, Brigadier General Uzi Ben Yitzchak, who was the commander of the Central Command, asked me to ask why they don’t tell the truth: 26 battalions, almost all of the regular IDF is in the territories. There is almost no army in the south. All this by a decision of an extreme right-wing government.

It should be said clearly.

Forces should be transferred from the West Bank to Gaza and close the fence at all costs and not let them return to Gaza

From what I can tell from reading and parsing various social media posts, someone pulled IDF personnel to secure and guard a religious site in Nablus, which is in the West Bank, and other sites in the West Bank so that they might be accessed as part of Simchat Torah festivities.

צה"ל היקצה הלילה שלושה גדודי חי"ר כדי לאבטח כניסת מתפללים לשכם למקום המכונה בטעות 'קבר יוסף'.

תרגום:

צה"ל סיכן הלילה את הילדים שלכם כדי לאבטח את הפרובוקטורים.

אין הבדל בין פרובוקטור בשכם לבין פרובוקטור בככר דיזינגוף בכוונה. יש הבדל אחד:

בככר דיזינגוף הם בטוחים בלי לסכן חיילים

— Eyal Ofer אייל עופר (@Eyalo365) October 5, 2023

Machine translation:

The IDF assigned three infantry battalions tonight to secure the entry of worshipers to Nablus to a place mistakenly known as ‘Joseph’s Tomb’.

translating:

The IDF endangered your children tonight to secure the provocateurs.

There is no difference between a provocateur in Nablus and a provocateur in Dizengoff Square on purpose. There is one difference:

In Dizengoff Square they are safe without endangering soldiers

Here’s some additional reporting on this:

Clashes bw IDF and local Palestinians continued today as funeral held for Palestinian killed.

Question needs to be asked, again: why do the IDF/Border Police keep allowing settler mobs to simply march into the center of a Palestinian village and do whatever they want, again?

— Neri Zilber (@NeriZilber) October 6, 2023

And these are the types of folks, though not the same group or location as this was in Jerusalem not the West Bank, that the IDF and border police have been pulled out of position to safeguard:

We decry the recent incident in Jerusalem’s Old City in which a group of Jews who were observing Sukkot spat at Christian pilgrims and sites. Had the roles been reversed, we would have no trouble describing their behavior as antisemitic. We commend Israeli law enforcement for…

— Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Antisemitism (@StateSEAS) October 6, 2023

We decry the recent incident in Jerusalem’s Old City in which a group of Jews who were observing Sukkot spat at Christian pilgrims and sites. Had the roles been reversed, we would have no trouble describing their behavior as antisemitic. We commend Israeli law enforcement for their swift action in identifying and apprehending the culprits.

At 5:35 AM Yoav Zitun YNet’s military correspondent posted this:

הנתון של מד"א, 22 נרצחים ישראלים מהבוקר, חלקי ביותר כי לפחות ב-4 ישובים בנגב המערבי חמאס עדיין שולט ומימדי הטבח שביצע בהם יתבררו בהמשך.
בינתיים מהדקות האחרונות עוד חדירה המונית לישראל מבית להייה לשער הנגב: pic.twitter.com/widTNcwRiX

— יואב זיתון (@yoavzitun) October 7, 2023

Machine translation that provides the context for the video:

The MDA figure, 22 Israelis murdered since this morning, is extremely partial because in at least 4 settlements in the Western Negev Hamas is still in control and the dimensions of the massacre it carried out in them will become clear later.
Meanwhile, from the last few minutes another mass infiltration into Israel from Beit Lahiya to the Negev gate:

The situation is serious enough that the former PM volunteered for active duty this AM:

שאלוהים ישמור אותך אמן!❤️🇮🇱@naftalibennett https://t.co/UpQokLwBQV

— בר זוהר (בז) Bar Zohar (@bar_zohar2025) October 7, 2023

Machine translation of the quoted tweet:

How serious is the situation? The former prime minister is standing next to me right now and has enlisted to help

Quoting tweet:

May God protect you Amen! ❤️🇮🇱

גם האלוף יאיר גולן לובש מדים ויוצא להלחם!

גיבורי ישראל האמיתיים בניגוד לשקרן הפתולוגי החולני והפלילי מחריב ישראל. https://t.co/TUUYuUqPmB

— בר זוהר (בז) Bar Zohar (@bar_zohar2025) October 7, 2023

Major Yair Golan also wears a uniform and goes out to fight! The real heroes of Israel as opposed to the pathological pathological and criminal liar who destroys Israel.

Haaretz correspondent Bar Peleg, fresh off an amazing report on how Canada is treating Eritrean refugees previously living in Israel, is in Sderot in southern Israel:

נכנסתי לשדרות. מילים לא יצליחו להסביר את מה שאני רואה פה ואת רוב התמונות אני מעדיף לחסוך. גופות, מכוניות מחוררות, מחסניות של קלאצ׳ על הרצפה ותרמילים רבים. כוח צבאי נכנס עכשיו לתוך העיר, גם כוחות הצלה. השכנים משוועים לעזרה

— Bar Peleg (@bar_peleg) October 7, 2023

I entered the boulevard. Words will not be able to explain what I see here and I prefer to save most of the pictures. Dead bodies, punctured cars, clutch cartridges on the floor and many backpacks. A military force is now entering the city, also rescue forces. The neighbors are desperate for help

 

עשר שעות בדיוק לתחילת הלחימה וחילופי אש כבדים עדיין נמשכים בשדרות באזור תחנת המשטרה. עכשיו עוד כח צבאי נכנס לאזור. בסמוך רכב המחבלים עם מקלע כבד שעדיין לא נפרק pic.twitter.com/EbMj38B0mm

— Bar Peleg (@bar_peleg) October 7, 2023

Exactly ten hours before the start of the fighting and heavy exchanges of fire are still going on in Sderot in the area of ​​the police station. Now another military force is entering the area. Nearby is the terrorist vehicle with a heavy machine gun that has not yet been unloaded

 

מכוניות נטושות, אחרות מפויחות, הדי פיצוצים וריח של אבק שריפה. כאוס בכבישי הדרום pic.twitter.com/S0MLsOZ983

— Bar Peleg (@bar_peleg) October 7, 2023

Abandoned cars, others sooty, the sounds of explosions and the smell of gunpowder. Chaos on the roads of the south

הכלב הזה הסתובב פה אבוד בכביש והתיישב באחת המכוניות. pic.twitter.com/AfUcsbUK9S

— Bar Peleg (@bar_peleg) October 7, 2023

This dog wandered here lost on the road and sat in one of the cars.

Civilians apparently span elderly citizens in wheelchairs and toddlers

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

I think this thread sums up how the major security and intelligence failure occurred:

המלחמה שנפתחה הבוקר זה לא מקרי. הכישלון המדהד של הממשלה הזאת והאפיסות המוחלטת של מרכיביה זה לא רק עניין פנימי. אמרנו את זה והתרענו אלף פעם: אויבינו רואים מי הממשלה פה והם מבינים שיש להם הזדמנות נדירה.

כל הלוינים והרוטמנים והביבים והבן גבירים והדיסטלים שעבדו על פירוק החברה

— Chaim Levinson (@chaimlevinson) October 7, 2023

ולא רק שהממשלה הזאת כושלת בכל תחום, נעדרת כל מדיניות חשיבה וחזון, הם גם עסוקים בלהדליק.

עשרות פעמים התריעו שהחימום הזול של בן גביר על האסירים יש לו משמעות והפרובקציות בהר הבית יש להם משמעות והלשרוף את חווארה יעלה בדם. והנה, זה עלה. ביבי כך את האפסים שלך ותלך

— Chaim Levinson (@chaimlevinson) October 7, 2023

Machine translation of all three tweets:

The war that started this morning is no accident. The resounding failure of this government and the complete incompetence of its members is not only an internal matter. We have said it and warned it a thousand times: our enemies see who the government is here and they realize that they have a rare opportunity. All the Levins and Rotmans and Bibs and Ben Gevirs and Distals who worked on the dissolution of the company succeeded.

Everyone saw that there is no state here and no police here, there is no social cohesion and the government has no legitimacy to do anything. Everyone sees that the government’s reaction capacity is nothing and nothing, that it is made up of idiots and brainless people.

Beyond the obvious intelligence failure, the failure is strategic from above. The policies of Netanyahu and Gallant have failed.

And not only does this government fail in every area, it lacks any policy of thinking and vision, they are also busy lighting the fire. Dozens of times they warned that Ben Gvir’s cheap warming of the prisoners has a meaning and the provocations on the Temple Mount have a meaning and burning Hvara will cost blood. And lo and behold, it rose. Bibi so your zeros and go

I wrote back in July, as the protests against Bibi’s extremist reactionary coalition and its attempts to subvert Israeli foundational and statutory law ramped up that if I were the Palestinians I would attack. I wrote this not because I wanted that, or what is happening now, to happen. Rather, I wrote it because from a strategic point of view Israeli has never been weaker than it has been for the past three months and a couple of weeks. Bibi only cares about remaining in power and staying out of prison. His even more extreme and reactionary coalition partners only care about using the power of the state to forcibly establish their conception of Judaism as a religion in an illiberal managed democracy/Jewish theocracy. All of this was not only predictable, it was, in fact predicted.

💥From July: "Military Intelligence Warns Netanyahu: Our Enemies Identify Historic Points of Weakness." pic.twitter.com/9ucMa4Iqn5

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

Everyone, however, will pretend it was a complete surprise!

Why it matters: This is the biggest and most serious invasion against Israel since the 1973 war and it caught the country and its civilian and military leadership by complete surprise https://t.co/Uc7qzgThGC

— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) October 7, 2023

Unpredictable remarks from Gen. (Res.) Amos Gilad. [for decades senior security official]: "The sources of this catastrophe lie in the regime change".

*דברים חסרי תקדים של אלוף במיל' עמוס גלעד: מקור הכשל הוא ההפיכה המשטרית* pic.twitter.com/gmB46iYtGr

— Daniel Seidemann (@DanielSeidemann) October 7, 2023

If you’re wondering if this will actually bring Bibi’s downfall, the answer is no, no it will not!

BREAKING: Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid says he told Netanyahu he is ready to form an emergency unity government that will run the war

— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) October 7, 2023

💥The Israeli army warned Netanyahu for months that his push for government overhaul put Israel at great risk of a multi-front attack. He dismissed their warnings by accusing the military of "joining the left-wing protesters" against him. His ministers said army could go to hell. https://t.co/zxJmti4j6G

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

I have a line chart I put together for a keynote I gave in 2004 on comparative violent extremism. One axis was Bibi in political/electoral trouble and Hamas strikes. The other was time. As in from 1994 to 2004. Care to guess how the data points lined up? The sad reality is that Bibi and Hamas need each other. Neither can exist without each other, just as neither can exist if there’s an Israeli Palestinian peace agreement. Bibi will exploit today’s attack to protect himself and remain in power. And he’ll be enabled in that by those who oppose him because their interests are the good of their state and society, not their own bank accounts, remaining in power indefinitely, and staying out of prison.

Here’s the thread she’s quoting:

2. Peace negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians have long been dead in the water, any glimmer of reigniting the idea of a two-state solution will now be extinguished. Some have argued Israel played up existential threat of Hamas. From now on Israel will cite 7 October.

— Bel Trew (@Beltrew) October 7, 2023

4. Israeli army told me “every option is on the table” including the long term re deployment of Israeli forces inside Gaza. “They will pay a huge price”. Except massive bombing of Gaza, a possible ground incursion once the south is under control.

— Bel Trew (@Beltrew) October 7, 2023

💥💥💥With missiles raining down on Israel, more than 100 dead and over 1000 wounded, Opposition Leader Lapid offers Netanyahu a lifeline: An emergency unity government: "I propose removing the unprofessional elements from the cabinet. I have no doubt that Gantz will also join." https://t.co/LhuLxK0n9X

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

The following four tweets – two tweets and two quoted tweets – are all part of the same thread:

💥The question 'how does Netanyahu survive this disaster?' may just have been answered by Lapid. https://t.co/bOSliJHqvw

— Noga Tarnopolsky נגה טרנופולסקי نوغا ترنوبولسكي (@NTarnopolsky) October 7, 2023

Is this the first time since 1948 that Israel loses control of its towns and villages? In 1973, the surprise Egyptian and Syrian breakthroughs were in occupied Sinai and Golan, not in sovereign Israel proper. https://t.co/1TW1rfzCVQ

— Yaroslav Trofimov (@yarotrof) October 7, 2023

If any one is curious, here are the Russian and Ukrainian responses:

שימו לב להבדלים בתגובות של רוסיה ואוקראינה למתקפת הטרור הרצחנית של החמאס נגד ישראל, שכללה טבח המוני אזרחים. הודעת משרד החוץ הרוסי במלואה:

״מוסקבה מביעה דאגה חמורה ביותר מההדרדרות החדה של המצב באזור הסכסוך הפלסטיני-ישראלי. בהקשר זה אנו מאשרים את עמדתנו העקרונית והעקבית לפיה…

— 🎗Yair Navot – יאיר נבות 🎗 (@Navot_Yair) October 7, 2023

Machine translation:

Note the differences in Russia’s and Ukraine’s responses to the murderous terrorist attack by Hamas against Israel, which included mass slaughter of civilians. The Russian Foreign Ministry’s statement in full:

“Moscow is extremely concerned about the sharp deterioration of the situation in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict zone. In this context, we confirm our principled and consistent position that this conflict, which has been going on for 75 years, has no solution by force and can only be resolved through political and diplomatic means, through a full negotiation process on a well-known international legal basis, which allows for the establishment of an independent Palestinian state within the 1967 borders with its capital in East Jerusalem, which lives in peace and security with Israel. We see the current escalation as another extremely dangerous manifestation of a vicious cycle of violence, which is a direct result of chronic disobedience to the relevant resolutions of the United Nations and its Security Council and the de facto blocking by the West of the work of the Middle East “Quartet” of international mediators consisting of Russia, the U.S. “B, the European Union and the United Nations. We call on the Palestinian and Israeli sides for an immediate ceasefire, a renunciation of violence, the exercise of necessary restraint and the establishment, with the assistance of the international community, of a negotiation process aimed at establishing a comprehensive, sustainable and long-awaited peace in the Middle East.”

Put aside the irony and cynicism of the Russians, who dare to talk about respecting international law, while massacring the citizens of Ukraine. Note that Moscow refuses to clearly and unequivocally condemn the Hamas organization for its massacres during the day against Israeli civilians, including women and children in their homes. Russia does not recognize Hamas as a terrorist organization, and even occasionally hosts the heads of the organization in Moscow, including Salah al-Aruri, one of the architects of today’s attack.

And now pay attention to the announcement of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry:

“Ukraine strongly condemns the ongoing terrorist attacks against Israel, including missile attacks against the civilian population in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. We express our support for Israel and its right to defend itself and its people.’ In addition, President Zelensky published a message on his Telegram channel that read, among other things: “Terrible news from Israel. My condolences to all those whose family and friends lost their lives in the attack. We believe that order will be restored and the terrorists will be destroyed. Nowhere in the world can terrorism be given another chance, because terrorism is always a crime not only against one country or its specific victims, but against humanity as such and our entire world. Whoever uses terrorism is a criminal against the world. Whoever finances terrorism is a criminal against the world. The world must be united and in solidarity so that terrorism will never try to conquer or eliminate life. Israel’s right to defense cannot be doubted.’

Despite Israel having spent almost two years equivocating in regard to aiding Ukraine so as not to upset Putin, Ukraine makes a clear, unequivocal statement while Russia both sides things.

US responses:

Today, I spoke with @IsraeliPM about the appalling Hamas terrorist attacks in Israel. I offered our support and reiterated my unwavering commitment to Israel’s security. @FLOTUS and I express our heartfelt condolences to the families who have lost loved ones.

— President Biden Archived (@POTUS46Archive) October 7, 2023

BREAKING: Biden after his call with Netanyahu: The United States warns against any other party hostile to Israel seeking advantage in this situation. My Administration’s support for Israel’s security is rock solid and unwavering

— Barak Ravid (@BarakRavid) October 7, 2023

We unequivocally condemn the appalling attacks by Hamas terrorists against Israel. We stand in solidarity with the government and people of Israel and extend our condolences for the Israeli lives lost in these attacks.

— Secretary Antony Blinken (@SecBlinken) October 7, 2023

My statement on the violent, unprovoked and despicable terrorist attack by Hamas against the State of Israel. pic.twitter.com/vpj3X8EE2y

— Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) October 7, 2023

CHM @RepMcCaul "I strongly condemn Iran-backed Hamas terrorists’ unprecedented assault on Israel. I am shocked by the barbaric images we are seeing of Hamas’ violence and by reports Hamas is taking innocent Israeli citizens hostage.

— House Foreign Affairs Committee Majority (@HouseForeignGOP) October 7, 2023

"Israel has a right to defend itself and the United States stands with our friend and ally."

— House Foreign Affairs Committee Majority (@HouseForeignGOP) October 7, 2023

I’m going to be very clear here, I fully expect that the US Congress, especially the GOP controlled House, is going to set a political speed record in writing and then passing a supplemental military aid package for Israel. At the same time there will be no supplemental aid package for Ukraine. I also expect that this glaring discrepancy will get little coverage from the major print, broadcast, and cable TV news outlets, though their will be a lot of grandstanding on just how good an ally the US is when its friends and partners are in need. The Ukrainians will, of course, take note of this. As will the Russians, especially Putin. The lesson that Putin will take is that not only can the US be easily distracted, which he already knows, but that Ukraine is ultimately on its own and his strategy to create time is and will continue to work.

Bibi will, of course, survive this and emerge more secure than ever. As will the even more extremist and reactionary coalition partners he has enabled.

Hamas, especially its leadership, will be attrited.

The real victims will be the Israelis killed by Hamas and the Gazans killed by the Israeli response.

Open thread!

 

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Cruel Boots (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  October 7, 202310:03 am| 145 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Primaries, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity

Even at the risk of reigniting the “height supremacy” debate, I am compelled to direct your attention to this reporting at Defector by Chris Thompson: “Is Ron DeSantis Wearing Hidden Platform Heels Inside His Stupid Ugly Boots? An Investigation.”

@spamellina slay queen ✨ #hiddenheel #mallgothfashion #2016fashion #y2kaesthetic #wildpairshoes #mandees #wetseal #rainbow #lifting #cute #foryou #ron #desantis #drag #edit #capcut #lookbook #whatarethose #parisfashionweek #plump ♬ Demons – Doja Cat

I urge you to read the whole thing, which is meticulously reasoned and illustrated. But the answer to the question in the title is: Yes. Yes, he is.

The report convincingly makes the case that DeSantis is walking around in wedge heels that are deceptively encased in cowboy-boot wrappers. The photographic evidence strongly suggests the toes of his pointy cowboy boots are empty, and DeSantis’s real tippy-toes appear to support his weight from the boots’ arch area while the heels of his feet rest on wedge platforms located about where normal boot shafts would enclose the wearer’s ankles.

Thompson says it’s stupid that candidates are judged by their height. I wholeheartedly agree. Basketball point guards notwithstanding, height is utterly irrelevant for most jobs and certainly shouldn’t be attached to a social stigma. DeSantis is credibly described as standing 5’9″, which is about average for an American male, so it’s especially bewildering that he would go to such an extreme to appear taller.

But extremism is a throughline in the flailing DeSantis campaign — this is simply one of the weirder manifestations. As a person who tottered around in high heels exactly once and swore them off forever, I hope DeSantis is every bit as uncomfortable in those cruel shoes as I was.

I also hope that at some inopportune moment the footwear adds a literal face-plant to the metaphorical stumble that is the entire Ron DeSantis presidential campaign.

Open thread!

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Saturday Morning Open Thread: Jokers to the Left of Me, Clowns to the Right…*

by Anne Laurie|  October 7, 20238:39 am| 68 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Politics, Republicans in Disarray!

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After all that simping for Trump, they completely broke him. https://t.co/ub1oaGRbg6

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) October 6, 2023

We're doing Greek metaphor and myth? Ikaros? Reckless courage? Vaulting ambition? Really? How about: Kevin McCarthy went into the GOP stable with a small hand trowel and the worst cretins in his party. He came out completely covered in shit and the stables are still full. https://t.co/VQxVArpI6n

— David Simon (@AoDespair) October 6, 2023

Saturday Morning Open Thread: Jokers to the Left of Me, Clowns to the Right...*

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Rep. Jamie Raskin on Jim Jordan for Speaker of the House: “He’s got a tragic flaw. Which is, that because of his natural flair for authoritarianism, he loves to cover up and apologize for men in power who abuse their power to vicious ends." pic.twitter.com/NXd7AH6DDH

— All In with Chris Hayes (@allinwithchris) October 7, 2023

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Electing Jim Jordan House Speaker guarantees the Democrats retaking the House in 2024.

Jordan has no leadership or people skills, he isn't very smart and all he has is arm waving and bluster.

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) October 6, 2023

Yeah but Hakeem Jeffries and the other Democratic leaders are gonna run circles around him.

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha) October 6, 2023

Jim Jordan would bring a unique attribute to the speakership: he would arrive with favorables 20 points under water with independents, making him one of the least popular political leaders in the country. That’s with 1/3 having not yet formed an opinionhttps://t.co/oNliiodVMw https://t.co/RJVb9FNByY

— Aaron Fritschner (@Fritschner) October 5, 2023

One aspect of speaker candidate Jim Jordan’s recent history the newsletters are leaving out pic.twitter.com/F8ig5XgVpL

— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) October 5, 2023

That’s not fair, there is absolutely a scenario where Gaetz is also trying to distract from being charged with sex trafficking and paying underage girls for sex. https://t.co/mrx8QhLohG

— Jason Karsh (@jkarsh) October 7, 2023

Jokers, I tell ya!

There are perhaps ways to avoid the worst effects of a House majority that is both dysfunctional and bullied by extremists (discharge petitions, etc.). But the simplest way to a functional and non-extreme House is for five sane Republicans to support Jeffries for speaker.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) October 6, 2023

Love seeing @TheDemocrats take a back seat this week with the dumpster @GOP fire this week: ousted House speaker, cash broke Rudy and MyPillowGuy, gag order and finance monitoring of TFG, Gaetz being Cawthornd, George Santos treasurer pleaded guilty. pic.twitter.com/YPbDbXoGyC

— KAMALA NATION (@KamalaNation) October 5, 2023

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Late Late Night Open Thread: ‘The Case for Chill’

by Anne Laurie|  October 7, 20233:14 am| 143 Comments

This post is in: Elections 2024, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

Every tweet is like, "Yes, people think Biden is old as shit and smells badly but I have to reluctantly admit that he is the most progressive president of our lifetime. I am NOT saying that I like him or anything, just making an observation. Did I mention that he's old?" https://t.co/sw1vXi2boL

— Centrism Fan Acct ?? (@Wilson__Valdez) September 27, 2023

It’s zero-dark-thirty on the weekend, so I figured I might as well post this before another torrent of news breaks out. Politico no-names interview a Biden insider:

Plenty of Democrats are freaking out over President JOE BIDEN’s chances of winning reelection…

But should they just chill the F out? Yes, says PATRICK DILLON, a Democratic strategist whose wife, JEN O’MALLEY DILLON, is the president’s deputy chief of staff. In an interview, he presented the counter argument to the bed wetters. It’s been slightly edited for space.

Why are Dems constantly hand wringing?

I think it’s a constitutional imperative of being a member of the party. To be a Democrat is to be a worrier.

Does the Biden panic feel any more intense than past cycles?

Honestly, no. I don’t think so. Every time it’s like this. D.C. is full of people who are quite sure how they would run and win a presidential campaign.

So what do you tell the panickers?

There’s a serious facts-based thing, and then there’s a more tongue-and-cheek thing.

I worked on Obama’s reelection in 2012. I remember every single poll in 2011 that had Mitt Romney up [by] 1, 2, 3, 4. We knew then, and we should know now, how not really predictive or useful off-year polls of large samples of just adults or registered voters are.

But it’s like therapists say: Anxiety has a real evolutionary purpose to keep you on your toes and watch out for danger. But too much anxiety is a disorder. When it paralyzes you and you spend all your time ruminating and worrying, that’s not healthy.

What about the people worrying Dems aren’t taking Trump seriously?

Anybody who didn’t expect this to be a close, tough race has got their head in the clouds. That’s how presidential elections in the 21st century go. They are close. They are tough.

One of the most ridiculous things in the whole discourse right now is the idea that somehow Joe Biden and the people on the Joe Biden team — the people that have actually run against and beaten Donald Trump — don’t take him seriously enough. It just sort of defies belief to me.

Isn’t Biden’s age driving all the anxiety?

Democrats find something to worry about no matter what. And I think the threat of Donald Trump is a scary enough threat, a real enough threat, that they would find something to be scared about no matter what…

 
And, a contrasting plaint from a Repub talk show host:
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Friday Night Open Thread: HRC Has No F*cks Left to Give

by Anne Laurie|  October 6, 20238:55 pm| 77 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republicans in Disarray!

“So many of those extremists, those MAGA extremists, take their marching orders from Donald Trump,” @HillaryClinton tells me. “There needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members” in the GOP, she adds in our EXCLUSIVE conversation. pic.twitter.com/ImpYIBuQ5j

— Christiane Amanpour (@amanpour) October 6, 2023


(Not-twitter version: I can’t find it on YouTube, but here’s a link to CNN’s video.)

Actually, it wouldn’t surprise me if she’s decided she might as well accept the role of point woman for the Democrats — the rightwing nutbars, and more importantly the ‘moderate’ Repubs and major media figures serving as their enablers, are going to blame her for everything up to and including the failure of their home team to make the playoffs regardless. It’s gotta be a relief to finally call the cultists out… and, of course, SHE’S RIGHT CORRECT.

Extended quote, per MeidasTouch:

… Clinton was discussing the current nature of the House of Representatives and how there was an ability to find common ground on the issues despite having ‘very strong partisans’ in the past but added, ‘there wasn’t this little tail of extremism wagging the dog of the Republican Party as it is today, and sadly, so many of those MAGA extremists take their marching orders from Donald Trump, who has no credibility left by any measure. He is only in it for himself and he’s now defending himself in civil actions and criminal actions. And when do they break with him? Because at some point, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members. But something needs to happen.’ When asked how that would be accomplished, Clinton said, ‘We have to defeat those who are the election deniers as we did in 2020 and 2022.’…

More goodies:

“He was punished because… he was not continuing to be captive to the far-right extremists.” In my EXCLUSIVE interview, watch @HillaryClinton’s fiery takedown of America’s alarming political dysfunction, in the wake of GOP House Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s historic downfall. pic.twitter.com/jPFFqMxHkf

— Christiane Amanpour (@amanpour) October 6, 2023

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“The alternative could end our democracy.” I ask @HillaryClinton if she’s worried a third party candidate could thwart @POTUS @JoeBiden’s chance of reelection. “I worry about anyone who might take votes away,” she adds. pic.twitter.com/WCOuOZjuZx

— Christiane Amanpour (@amanpour) October 6, 2023

Fox News hedges its bets, because those legal settlements left a mark:

Jessica: I need everybody to spare the faux outrage about this.. Here’s a little collection of things that Trump and Republicans call liberals on a daily basis… pic.twitter.com/wJ5MDi6HBv

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 6, 2023

Acyn did an amazing job showing how right-wingers cut Hillary’s interview to deceptively show her comments out of context, and then how Fox hosts have blown it completely out of proportion to mislead their audience. https://t.co/kjfueTZ4qn

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 6, 2023

"There needs to be a backlash against the control that this small group of extremists have,” @HillaryClinton tells me after GOP House Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s historic downfall.
Tune in on Monday for the full interview, where we also talk 2024 election, Ukraine, and a lot more. pic.twitter.com/ccUA46HFQa

— Christiane Amanpour (@amanpour) October 5, 2023

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War for Ukraine Day 590: The Butcher’s Bill from Hroza

by Adam L Silverman|  October 6, 20237:13 pm| 33 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Art by NEIVANMADE of a Ukrainian painted black and outlined in blood red kneeling in grief with hands covering the face surrounded by the bodies of Ukrainians killed by Russians on a grey background. "Russia Is Committing Genocide Right Now" is across the top center of the image.

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

Here’s some of the butcher’s bill from the Russian attack on Hroza yesterday:

The Panteleev family: 4 people killed. A mother, father, grandmother and grandfather. The Kozyr family (in the photo): Five members were killed – Denys and his wife Nina , his grandfather, grandmother, and mother-in-law. At the beginning of the war, Denys and his father, Andriy,… pic.twitter.com/7wVAEDfqpy

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 6, 2023

The Panteleev family: 4 people killed. A mother, father, grandmother and grandfather. The Kozyr family (in the photo): Five members were killed – Denys and his wife Nina , his grandfather, grandmother, and mother-in-law. At the beginning of the war, Denys and his father, Andriy, went to defend Ukraine. In the summer of 2022, Andriy died. On Thursday, residents of the village of Hroza had gathered for his reburial when a russian ballistic missile hit the cafe where a post-funeral reception was underway. 50 people died on the spot; two more died later from their injuries. In total, this amounted to 1/6 of the population of Hroza. If this is not genocide, then what is?

Panteleev family. 4 people. In the village of Hroza preparations are underway for 40 graves in the cemetery. pic.twitter.com/au1TuEZwFP

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) October 6, 2023

And part of the new one Russia created this morning in Kharkiv:

A child's body wrapped in a blanket. He was murdered this morning in Kharkiv by a russian missile. The boy was apparently sleeping. The Iskander is a russian ballistic missile that can reach Kharkiv, Ukraine's border city, in just a few seconds. pic.twitter.com/ayJCdrz5YU

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 6, 2023

This morning, russians attacked the center of Kharkiv with Iskander missiles.
Two buildings have been damaged, while another has been destroyed. Sixteen civilians have been injured.
A 10-year-old child was killed. His body was discovered beneath the debris by rescue workers. pic.twitter.com/7MCdf0AIG6

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 6, 2023

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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To win this winter, overcome all difficulties, and provide protection to our people is crucial – address of the President of Ukraine

6 October 2023 – 19:57

I wish you good health, dear Ukrainians!

I have just chaired a meeting of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief’s Staff. Lengthy, with several key issues.

First, of course, the front. The situation on the main fronts, reports from commanders, ammunition supply, and air defense.

The second issue of the Staff meeting directly related to our defense, the resilience of our state.

Energy. Preparing for winter, protecting our generation facilities, ensuring electricity and heat, and restoring everything damaged by Russian strikes and military actions.

The current leadership of Russia always does what it has done before. They repeat all their mistakes. They repeat all the evil they have done. And when things don’t go their way, they think they haven’t done enough evil to succeed. Such insane logic. But we must take this into account. This winter, Russian terrorists will once again try to destroy our energy system. They cannot comprehend that Ukraine will not be subjugated anyway. But they will try to launch more attacks and more attempts to bypass our defenses.

We fully understand the danger.

Today, at the Staff meeting, there were reports from the military and all officials responsible for the defense of our energy and our winter passing strategy. This included the reports of the head of government, ministers, leaders of energy companies, representatives of the communications sector, and regional administration heads. Everything related to the physical protection of facilities, rebuilding, following orders, and the course of action in case of various emergencies. Winning this winter, overcoming all difficulties, and providing protection to our people is crucial. And, by the way, local authorities must fully perform their preparatory work. Next week, we will assess the current state of winter preparedness in the regions.

We are taking further steps to strengthen our air defense and cooperate with partners to ensure the resilience of Ukrainian energy. This week has already seen significant reinforcement.

Germany – we are working with Chancellor Olaf Scholz on transferring another Patriot battery to Ukraine. This will be a significant enhancement.

Italy – I discussed with Giorgia Meloni, the Prime Minister, the content of a new security package for our country. Thank you!

Spain – in negotiations with Mr. Sánchez, the Prime Minister of Spain, we not only agreed on additional Hawk air defense systems but also on support for energy equipment. Thank you!

The United Kingdom – we have a very good agreement with Prime Minister Rishi Sunak regarding security in the Black Sea and Odesa region. It’s important that we don’t waste time and opportunities for export work. Ukraine must maintain its role as a guarantor of global food security and retain maritime access to the world market. I thank the UK for this support.

And, of course, President Emmanuel Macron of France is doing exactly what we agreed on for greater security in Ukraine and all of Europe. There are significant results and new opportunities for our warriors. But as for the details, a bit later.

Today, we also have a decision on a new package from the Netherlands, totaling over EUR 100 million, and this package focuses specifically on supporting our energy system. Shortly, we will discuss our next steps with Prime Minister Mark Rutte. Thank you!

We are also working fruitfully with the European Union. It is important for us from all perspectives to start negotiations on EU membership this year. Ukraine has almost fulfilled the seven recommendations of the European Commission, and everything will be ready from our side. The Verkhovna Rada has one step left, and it is crucial for the deputies to take that step.

The EU for Ukraine is not just economic security and a significant contribution to resolving the geopolitical stability issue. It’s also motivation. Motivation for us, for our warriors, for our entire nation. Motivation to fight, to be resilient, to overcome this winter, and to achieve our national goals despite any Russian terror.

And one more thing.

Kharkiv region… Yesterday, a brutal strike hit a village in Kupiansk district. 51 casualties. The fate of three more people is still unknown. This morning, a Russian strike hit Kharkiv, right in the city, hitting ordinary buildings with a missile. Two casualties, and they were from the same family. A 10-year-old boy and his grandmother. The younger brother of the boy, who is only 11 months old, and their parents are in the hospital. My condolences to everyone whose loved ones and relatives have been killed by Russia…

Yesterday and today, leaders of states and many foreign affairs ministers expressed their condolences and condemned Russian terror. I am grateful to everyone who doesn’t remain indifferent. Only together, in unity, can we overcome terror. And we will do it. States, leaders, and nations.

Many journalists, public figures, and ordinary people have supported us now and continue to support us throughout this war. Ukraine highly values every display of support, every manifestation of solidarity with us. Our victory over Russian terror will be a shared victory of all people in the world who, like Ukrainians, believe that evil and hatred must always be defeated. Always! This must be an unshakable global rule. And it will be.

Glory to our warriors! Glory to all who defend humanity and people!

Glory to Ukraine!

Here’s a detailed assessment of Russia’s strength in terms of personnel from Tatarigami:

Recently, I've tried to refrain from making negative statements about the overall situation. However, over the past two months, I've come across a continuous stream of statements that I find not only incorrect but also potentially harmful.

One of the most recent trends I've…

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 6, 2023

Recently, I’ve tried to refrain from making negative statements about the overall situation. However, over the past two months, I’ve come across a continuous stream of statements that I find not only incorrect but also potentially harmful.

One of the most recent trends I’ve observed is the assertion that the russians lack reserves and are running out of troops. This information is not only inaccurate but also lacks substantiated data on the location and availability of russian reserves.

In the past, I made a similar comment when regiments from the 76th division started moving southward.

Unfortunately, I continue to witness the deployment of additional units and reserves across various parts of the frontline. While I harbor doubts about their potential for an offensive, they appear to be deployed in the areas where Ukrainian forces might breach defenses. Their purpose seems to be slowing down Ukrainian troops and severely limiting their ability to exploit any breakthroughs.

Ultimately, russian forces may not need to advance at this moment but aim to minimize Ukrainian gains from this counter-offensive. They aim to undermine both political and military support for Ukraine.

The enemy remains formidable and capable, despite all their shortcomings. They still possess significant anti-tank capabilities, the ability to deploy remote minefields, employ loitering munitions, maintain artillery and counter-battery capabilities, and continue fortifying their defenses. When individuals push the narrative that the russians are on the verge of collapse and have exhausted their reserves, it fosters unrealistic expectations and diverts attention from the necessity for long-term planning and vision. It can lead to an overemphasis on short-term optimism and hinder the recognition of mistakes, the need for change, or an increase in support.

To an observer, it may seem that advances can continue endlessly. However, this situation underscores the fact that Ukraine does not possess an unlimited supply of ammunition, much of which was provided by South Korea through the US. Furthermore, Ukraine does not have an inexhaustible pool of personnel in the already deployed brigades along the front lines.

Maintaining a healthy optimism is absolutely necessary as our troops make further progress. It’s true that russian troops have suffered severe degradation, and counter-battery fire degraded their artillery capabilities. Their captured soldiers have testified about a lack of discipline and a diminishing will to fight. However, this optimism shouldn’t transform into delusional hopefulness.

Earlier this spring, I cautioned against setting unrealistic expectations and the belief that russian defenses would collapse within weeks or days, leading to celebrations in liberated Crimea. I emphasized that a counter-offensive alone would not win this war and that we needed to plan for the long term. I hope that now, my message will resonate more strongly.

And some follow on Q&A:

Speaking of unskilled russian troops. While not entirely untrue, it raises a logical question: If that were absolutely accurate, why Ukrainian forces are not in Crimea and Donetsk? They adapt and learn – just look at the number of drones in their possession in 2023 and 2022

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 6, 2023

They are running so-called "hidden mobilization", so they continue to receive a constant flow of contract soldiers, convicts, "PMCs" and so on.

I do think that if they will run mobilization in late October, that will give them the ability to slowly rotate troops next year

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 6, 2023

You're correct, and that's why I'm reaching out to the audience to emphasize the need for a long-term plan. We must avoid falling into this trap, as it aligns with russian anticipations of weakened support, so they have time to rearm and resume offensives in the future

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 6, 2023

They have shortages in some equipment while increasing others (like drones). They can likely sustain this war at the current intensity for another year or two by refurbishing their stocks and receiving support from allies. They're counting on reduced Western support for Ukraine

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 6, 2023

Yes, I think that they have serious problems – lack of personnel, lots of "500" (people who refuse to fight), extraordinary distrust of military leadership, problems with artillery and ammo, use of demotivated convicts, etc, but strategically, it's our goal to liberate Ukraine

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 6, 2023

The correct conclusion is not that, but rather to mentally prepare for a years-long war. The West, in cooperation with Ukraine, needs to establish a long-term security strategy to push back Russia, rather than hoping for a quick resolution with one major push

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 6, 2023

More from Hroza:

Horrific video from Hroza, where Russia killed 51 innocent people yesterday. Can’t grasp this level of violence pic.twitter.com/TXtG5gfAB2

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) October 6, 2023

Kharkiv was hit again today:

Russia attacked Kharkiv city center at 6:46 am with two missiles. Body of a 10-year-old boy found dead under the rubble. This is the most devastating attack on downtown Kharkiv in months. pic.twitter.com/bivkYNPWMt

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) October 6, 2023

The spirit of Ukrainians cannot be broken.
Kharkiv. Although all of the windows have been blasted out, a coffre shop near the site of today's ballistic missile strike is open. pic.twitter.com/1IrAyTpLlW

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 6, 2023

Kharkiv this morning.
Please, take your time, god forbid Putin decides to escalate this war. pic.twitter.com/JEbjniudgR

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) October 6, 2023

Kherson:

A map of the world on the wall of a travel agency in Kherson, damaged as a result of the morning shelling by the russian terrorists.
A fragment of a projectile hit russia on the map.
russia disappeared, but the rest of the world survived.

🎥 @ZarinaZabrisky pic.twitter.com/3VMFpPEgUi

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 6, 2023

The first targeted Russian 2S40 Floks self-propelled mortar system. Somewhere in the Kherson region.
P.S: Just yesterday Rostec announced that Russian military recently received first Floks systems. https://t.co/baaU5sixTf

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 6, 2023

Here’s the machine translation of Sternenko’s tweet:

The Russian “analogovnet” self-propelled gun Phlox was hit for the first time 💥

The other day, the Russians said that they are starting to transfer to the army a new development – 2S40 Phlox, which is both a mortar and an artillery installation at the same time.

And now 12 of Ocean’s friends in the Kherson region hit her with a drone that you paid for!
The consequences of the impact are unknown, whether it was destroyed or damaged, because the range of damage exceeds the range of available air reconnaissance equipment.

But the news is still great!

Thanks to the soldiers for their work and to you for your constant donations on drones!
Today we will buy another 100 😏

Bakhmut:

This video provides a detailed account of a battle fought by the 5th Assault Brigade in the Bakhmut direction.
The CV90 and M113 BMPs that land the assault force are safeguarded by a T-80 tank. Commentary is from a company commander known as Pegasus. pic.twitter.com/MyFOSat1VD

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 6, 2023

Russian occupied Crimea:

Russian-appointed Crimean authorities dismantled the Statue of Liberty from the Crimean miniature park. pic.twitter.com/PDkNDbHwG6

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 6, 2023

Russian occupied Nikolske:

As rumored, Russian friendly fire occurred near Nikolske, not far from Mariupol. Video is allegedly showing the aircraft’s crash site. https://t.co/kqMJLwby5L pic.twitter.com/5Q5oqM55u8

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 6, 2023

What’s Russian air defense doing? Shooting Russian military aviation assets down.

Donetsk:

HIMARS strike on Russian military training ground in the Donetsk region. Video by the Shadow air reconnaissance unit.https://t.co/o2d6dMfKI2 pic.twitter.com/XF14VXWA7f

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) October 6, 2023

Here’s more justifications from Putin and Russian propagandists:

This is so important. When you watch these clips you’ll know what must be done.

Only victory and meaningful justice can end the cycle of aggression. And, every day, more evidence is collected for a Special Tribunal on Russian aggression.

Let’s get #SpecialTribunalNow trending. pic.twitter.com/N2GY4FBJ48

— Benjamin Tallis 🇺🇦 (@bctallis) October 6, 2023

Illia Ponomarenko points out the logical fallacies and inconsistencies in Russia’s justifications regarding their genocidal re-invasion of Ukraine:

I love the way Russian propaganda spreads two mutually conflicting narratives for the last year and a half:

1. NATO & the US prepared and unleashed a giant proxy war on Russia, and they will give Ukraine absolutely everything so it could destroy Russia.

2. NATO & the US are…

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) October 6, 2023

I love the way Russian propaganda spreads two mutually conflicting narratives for the last year and a half:

1. NATO & the US prepared and unleashed a giant proxy war on Russia, and they will give Ukraine absolutely everything so it could destroy Russia.

2. NATO & the US are too weak and undetermined; they don’t have enough resources as they never prepared for a war, they are tired of Ukraine begging for aid all the time, so Ukraine will have a week left to live after they terminate supplies.

I have a couple of questions here.

So, why does Ukraine beg for defense aid for 19 months in the first place if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why is the West so incredibly unprepared, slow, and cautious all this time in terms of sending weapons to Ukraine if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why do Ukraine and its backers around the world have to bang their heads against the wall for months, blandishing the West over every single weapon type it needs, from artillery to munitions, tanks, radars, air defense, missiles, jets, if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why, after a year of U.S. deliberations, Ukraine is only about to get 31 M1 Abrams tanks instead of 301 and has received some 80 Leopard 2 tanks instead of 800 to successfully defeat Russia if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why, 20 months into the full-scale war, the German chancellor is still saying no to Ukraine getting Taurus missiles due to threadbare fear of “escalation” if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why did the West spend almost a year publicly begging Russia not to invade Ukraine, after which Ukraine had to combat Russian blitzkrieg all alone and basically with a handful of NLAWs, Javelins, and Stingers sent weeks and days before the invasion if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why was the West so obsessed with “not provoking Putin,” and why does it strictly prohibit Ukraine from using its weapons to quite legitimately strike military targets in Russian territory if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why is the West so reluctant and inconsistent in introducing really effective and painful sanctions on Russia, such as an oil trade ban that could derail Russia’s war economy, if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why, 20 months into the full-scale war, is the West still struggling to unfold its defense production to keep up with Ukraine’s immense battlefield needs if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why does Ukraine’s artillery still fire around 5,000 rounds a day against Russia’s 15,000 a day while the U.S. reckons to be hopefully producing 24,000 rounds a month by the end of 2024 if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why did Ukraine’s military have to wage a large-scale offensive operation to break through one of the world’s toughest defensive lines with not a single aircraft provided by the West to ensure air support if this is somehow a Western war on Russia?

Why will Ukraine have “a week left to live” after the West drops out if Russia is only fighting a defensive war and if the conquest of Ukraine was suddenly never a plan?

Meanwhile, hundreds, if not thousands, of tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, and artillery pieces keep collecting dust at storage sites.

Proxy war on Russia, my ass.

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The DPRK:

“North Korea has begun transferring artillery to Russia, bolstering Vladimir Putin's forces as they continue their 20-month invasion of Ukraine, a U.S. official tells CBS News.”https://t.co/26KuRKr9Hy pic.twitter.com/h2TOjqPXIw

— Rob Lee (@RALee85) October 6, 2023

That’s enough for today.

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There’s no new tweets or videos from Patron’s accounts today. So here’s some adjacent material from the Ukrainian Army Cats & Dogs account:

The last minutes before parting… pic.twitter.com/qLKaMIejoa

— UkrARMY cats & dogs (@UAarmy_animals) October 1, 2023

Good night 🌙 pic.twitter.com/PQJy10pQbS

— UkrARMY cats & dogs (@UAarmy_animals) October 2, 2023

Special operations dog.. pic.twitter.com/VxucDEn8LJ

— UkrARMY cats & dogs (@UAarmy_animals) October 1, 2023

☺️ pic.twitter.com/ruchboU7p6

— UkrARMY cats & dogs (@UAarmy_animals) October 2, 2023

 

Ukrainian rescuers saved the dog. https://t.co/uuQKFpCxAA

— UkrARMY cats & dogs (@UAarmy_animals) October 2, 2023

Here’s the machine translation of the State Emergency Services of Ukraine’s tweet:

Every life is important! Rivne rescuers resuscitated this dog today.

He was taken out of a smoky room during the extinguishing of an apartment in a multi-story residential building.

By that time, the dog had already managed to inhale the smoke and fainted.

With the help of a breathing apparatus on compressed air, specialists of the State Emergency Service resuscitated the animal.

The building was saved from destruction by fire.

Cute 🥰 pic.twitter.com/SL1f5z6fvg

— UkrARMY cats & dogs (@UAarmy_animals) October 1, 2023

Open thread!

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Oh Please Oh Please Oh Please…

by Tom Levenson|  October 6, 20236:37 pm| 82 Comments

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Via Semafor (Ben Smith’s post Buzzfeed, post NYTimes shop)* the ultimate Rooting For Injuries™ showdown:

Members of Donald Trump’s team are quietly preparing to go on offense against Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as internal campaign polling suggests his expected third party bid could draw more votes from Trump than President Joe Biden in a general election.

As someone on Bluesky put it, let us savor the thought of Kennedy running ads denouncing Trump for Operation Warp Speed and the COVID vaccine.

Oh Please Oh Please Oh Please...

I liked this nugget too:

Semafor has not independently reviewed the polling. One person close to Trump’s campaign said it showed that Kennedy took more votes from Trump than left-wing independent Cornel West drew from Biden when both were tested.

Apparently, this all has the Trumpoids panicked enough to prepare a John Foster Dulles response:

With Trump allies “anxious,” as one supporter put it, his campaign and outside allies are also preparing to release an onslaught of opposition research.

“We’re gonna be dropping napalm after napalm on his head reminding the public of his very liberal views, dating back to 2012,” another Trumpworld person told Semafor. “We have a lot of stuff on him.”

Like I said: root for injuries.

*I have my doubts.  Smith is as mainstream as they come. But he did good work at Buzzfeed, so here’s hoping.

Image: Thomas Eakins, Wrestlers, 1899

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