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Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

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We can show the world that autocracy can be defeated.

Stamping your little feets and demanding that they see how important you are? Not working anymore.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

He really is that stupid.

I don’t recall signing up for living in a dystopian sci-fi novel.

Hey Washington Post, “Democracy Dies in Darkness” was supposed to be a warning, not a mission statement.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

If a good thing happens for a bad reason, it’s still a good thing.

Petty moves from a petty man.

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President Musk and Trump are both poorly raised, coddled 8 year old boys.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

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There are some who say that there are too many strawmen arguments on this blog.

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Dank Grey Dawn Open Thread: Can the Banks Defenestrate Musk Before He Kills Twitter Completely?

by Anne Laurie|  October 6, 20234:20 am| 61 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Excellent Links, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Tech News & Issues, Lock Him Up...Lock Them All Up, social media

in elon’s eternal wisdom, he’s decided that removing everything but the image from link previews will keep people from clicking and thus leaving twitter

in reality i’m now much more likely to click the link since i have to go there to see what i once could get from the preview

— Molly White (@molly0xFFF) October 5, 2023

Defenestrate Musk - STOCKPILE

Commentary: Twitter is at death’s door, one year after Elon Musk’s takeover https://t.co/XMat52sE4b

— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) October 5, 2023


The smart money says All popular social media platforms eventually collapse, but as a devout Cynic (not to mention an Irish-American), I take some consolation in watching the public humiliation of the sociopath responsible for destroying this particular global public square. Per Rolling Stone:

…[Y]ou’d be hard pressed to name a single improvement to the site under Musk’s direction. His biggest ideas have all blown up in his face: An $8 monthly subscription fee for a blue check that verified users then needed the option of hiding to avoid mockery. The abandonment of a valuable brand name and logo in favor of the meaningless “X,” which prompted a trademark lawsuit and led to the installation of a garish metal X structure on the roof of Twitter’s office — city inspectors had it removed just days later. Musk’s latest move is to have headlines stripped from article links, leaving only an image and media source, which he seems to believe looks better and will keep users scrolling. But for those who follow news on the app, it makes X that much more pointless…

These days, when you mention Musk’s countless blunders in running X, you get a standard retort from his defenders. It doesn’t matter if you’re taking stock of his mounting desperation (like when he begged Taylor Swift to release music on the platform), or a technical fail that reveals an infrastructure coming apart at the seams (such as a frozen livestream at the U.S.-Mexico border, where he’d put on his cowboy hat to grandstand as an anti-immigration ideologue, a glitch that prompted him to send an email reading “Please fix this” to all employees). The reply is always more or less the same: If Twitter is really dying, why are you still posting on it?

It’s a fair question, even if it dodges the issue of Musk’s rank incompetence. I suppose a mixture of spite and morbid curiosity goes a long way toward keeping a person like me around. On the other hand, it’s not my first time having an online community hollowed out by a hostile force, and there’s something to be said for making the most of the end with your remaining friends — sharing gallows humor and a sense of humanity as the situation continues to devolve…

Musk is not without his salesmanship, which, combined with unconditional, breathless hype from supporters, has kept alive the notion of his entrepreneurial and innovative genius. He and this audience are both expending more energy each day on flat denials of grim headlines and vague assurances that X is actually “thriving” like never before. Sooner or later, that magical thinking will run ashore on reality, and until then, yes, the site will survive — but in a state of waking demise, with a user base divided between those cannibalizing what’s left and the stunned spectators.

That can hardly be mistaken for a healthy, habitable public forum, let alone an asset that could one day turn a profit. It offers the illusion of life, however, in arguments, abuse, recriminations, and disgust. The paradox of what used to be Twitter is that it is now sustained by little except the mutual contempt of hardened combatants fighting for an inch of territory. Nobody wants to cede the ground.

Also, there’s always the hope of a truly spectacular final implosion:

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Like a financial black hole, X threatens to consume most of whatever value it once had, says @jennifersaba https://t.co/NCvdLotbZy pic.twitter.com/QxzqD98Gm8

— Reuters Breakingviews (@Breakingviews) October 3, 2023

… Despite Musk’s big pronouncements about pushing into subscriptions, X has historically relied on advertising, which contributed over 90% of revenue when it was a public company. But that business is spiraling, and the platform’s shifting policies could threaten more branding deals. In July, Musk posted that cash flow was negative because of a 50% drop in advertising sales.

The apparent strategic disconnect between the company’s ad-focused chief executive and its subscription-hungry owner comes as valuations are falling. TikTok parent ByteDance was recently valued at $224 billion, down by about a quarter from a year ago, the Information reported. Disappearing messaging app Snap’s (SNAP.N) market value has slumped by more than 10% over the past year.

Put it all together, and X isn’t just worth less than Musk paid for it, but likely less than its debt. Assume that the company’s revenue last year was $4.7 billion, based on results before it was taken private. If advertising has dropped by half, then this year’s sales should be a bit over $2.5 billion. Put that on the same enterprise-value-to-sales multiple as Snap, which is down to a mere 3 times, and X is worth around $8 billion.

The company is so far covering its hefty interest payments of $300 million per quarter, and Yaccarino sees profitable days ahead. But between Musk’s impromptu product shifts and the need to woo back advertisers, her task is daunting. If things deteriorate further, the company’s bankers – already nursing billions in on-paper losses – face the prospect of taking back the keys to a diminished platform that is worth less than even their claim on it. Like a financial black hole, X threatens to consume most of whatever value it once had.

X user: i personally dislike this change to the platform and am basing my opinion on what i see with my own two eyes

Elon Musk: wow, just believing the media smdh pic.twitter.com/vdcvU1arA0

— Matt Binder (@MattBinder) October 5, 2023

Life (defined as the quintessentially human desire to communicate) finds a way around any barrier:

considering also superimposing “THIS IS A LINK” on all my social share images now 🙄 https://t.co/iw7y17ugym

— Molly White (@molly0xFFF) October 5, 2023

They’re gonna get that guy who repossesses planes from drug dealers to change the passwords on Elons work account.

— crabjuice410 (@crabjuice410) October 5, 2023

Don’t think Twitter fully thought through the consequences of this change pic.twitter.com/JQZwEYkeuZ

— Aidan McLaughlin (@aidnmclaughlin) October 5, 2023

one thing I would really like to know when all the dust settles, is how many years of revenue Morgan Stanley’s losses on this financing end up giving back for the very well regarded tech advisory team. https://t.co/eu9LoxX5Fa

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) October 5, 2023

The banking sector could redeem itself for 2008 with one action https://t.co/PU6a9YHSlm

— Environmental Services Weedle (@PartyWurmple) October 5, 2023

As WaterGirl posted earlier, looks like the SEC might be nudging Musk, also…

SEC sues Elon Musk to force his testimony in Twitter takeover probe https://t.co/UYbEqLIygy

— WTF (@elzey_t) October 5, 2023

I think it’s kind of hilarious that Musk, filled with angst about how buying the playground didn’t buy him any friends, is now basically deciding that he’ll just pave it all over and forget about it. If he’s picked last, then screw it, no one plays any games on that sandlot. https://t.co/LLMEBYRql2

— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) October 5, 2023

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This Might Be Alexandra Petri’s Best Ever

by WaterGirl|  October 6, 202312:36 am| 13 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

This really might be Alexandra Petri’s best column ever.  I think it’s perfect, and I’m a hard grader.

Help Wanted: Speaker needed in the House of Representatives

Help wanted!

We are in urgent need of a new speaker for the House of Representatives! Our most recent speaker, Kevin, had to leave unexpectedly, and we are shorthanded with a lot of important business coming up!

Who we are:

The U.S. House of Representatives! We have been called “the second-most august legislative body in the United States” and a lot of other things that are not printable in a family newspaper. Not ringing a bell? We were in a “School House Rock.” Or if you heard anyone complaining about partisan gridlock grinding something to a halt, that was probably us.

In our House, unlike an increasing number of statehouses around the country, gerrymandering has not resulted in a Republican majority that is trying to lock everyone with a womb in a vault underground where they cannot vote and their screams cannot be heard. No, here it has just resulted in a steadily increasing inability to keep the country functional! This is the place where Lauren Boebert goes for work! So do Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Marjorie Taylor Greene and more than 10 Mikes!

Speaker is the most important position we have to offer. This job has launched the careers of Newt Gingrich (failed presidential candidate), John Boehner (cannabis lobbyist), Paul Ryan (something at a … think tank, maybe?). Every man who has recently held this position has run away from it screaming, “No! Don’t send me back there! I don’t want to go back!” Though if you ask him what he saw, he will not answer, so there’s a possibility it’s haunted! Just in time for spooky season!

Do I need to be a member to apply? No! You don’t technically need to be a member of the House of Representatives to be speaker, but it helps if you are a member because that is one fewer vote you will need to wrangle.

What does the job entail? You have one job: Make all the laws for the entire country. This includes passing a budget so the government can keep running! If this sounds too overwhelming, just impeach the president.

Is there a dress code? Oh God, don’t ask us that right now.

What are the day-to-day responsibilities? You must count votes! While you’re doing this, keep in mind that there is a club of anywhere from eight to 45 people who don’t want you to get anything done, and some of them might hate your guts! Also, fundraising.

Requirements:

Must be able to count! Other useful skills include herding cats and walking and chewing gum at the same time, though these might be metaphors. You will get to preside from the chair, and recognize or not recognize people, and give them the floor (these might also be metaphors).

I see here that this job was done by a woman for eight years (nonconsecutively); how hard can it possibly be? Harder than you’d think!

Job perks include:

Great seat at State of the Union address, if you’re a fan of Joe Biden. Note: You cannot sell or trade the seat!

You get a little hammer!

Work with a man named Chip!

Second in line to the presidency of the United States!

Popcorn (We can get popcorn if this is important to you.)

Ideal candidate skills and traits:

Have a clear agenda but also be willing to reach across the aisle; be actively interested in making people’s lives better, either by repealing laws that don’t make sense or passing laws that do; be willing to listen and compromise, with the understanding that people live in this country and like it here and it would bring them peace of mind if the government did not arbitrarily stop working every four to six weeks.

But we’re probably just going to pick someone Matt Gaetz wants.

Open thread.

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War for Ukraine Day 589: (Some of) You Have Questions I (May) Have Answers

by Adam L Silverman|  October 5, 20239:31 pm| 51 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

 

(Image by NEIVANMADE)

Russia opened up on a small town in Kharkiv Oblast killing 50 out of a total population of 300!

Village of Hroza had a population of just over 300 people. Russia killed 50 today, including a 6-year-old child. There may still be people under the rubble of the destroyed shop and cafe, where locals had a funeral ceremony. This marks the most devastating atrocity for Kharkiv… pic.twitter.com/4SyaMUkmZu

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) October 5, 2023

Village of Hroza had a population of just over 300 people. Russia killed 50 today, including a 6-year-old child. There may still be people under the rubble of the destroyed shop and cafe, where locals had a funeral ceremony. This marks the most devastating atrocity for Kharkiv region since the war began.

And here we have people, mocking Ukrainians seeking military aid. Shameful hypocrisy. pic.twitter.com/4N3YGyLGZF

— Maria Avdeeva (@maria_avdv) October 5, 2023

https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1709918304129716252

Oleksandr, a resident of the village of Hroza, Kharkiv region, lost his brother, sister-in-law, and mother as a result of a Russian missile attack. He says that people gathered in a village cafe to commemorate their fellow villager who died at the beginning of the war and who was… pic.twitter.com/8v477f2j0t

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 5, 2023

Oleksandr, a resident of the village of Hroza, Kharkiv region, lost his brother, sister-in-law, and mother as a result of a Russian missile attack. He says that people gathered in a village cafe to commemorate their fellow villager who died at the beginning of the war and who was finally reburied in his native land.

🎥 Suspilne

Two night’s ago, Tzimiskes asked:

I have been lurking here for a while but first time commenting. I have been n wondering if another round of creative accounting could stretch Ukraine aid further. My understanding is that most of what we are giving them is old stuff that is being phased out. Would it be possible to write down this equipment and transfer it at $0 to Ukraine for “disposal?” Wouldn’t help with ammo or newer gear, but I don’t really understand why we’re putting a dollar value on stuff that we’re keeping mothballed and won’t ever use anyway. Seems like getting rid of it would save us money, at least by freeing up the storage space for other uses. I assume there are some maintenance costs before it can be transferred, but couldn’t this be accounted for as training or something?

The answer is yes, but. There is a little more than $5 billion left in the funding that the previous Congress had authorized. That will be spent despite kicking over into the new federal fiscal year. My understanding is that the lend-lease authority that was given to the Biden administration via legislation is also still intact. So I expect that will be leveraged. Another thing that could be done is that our EU, NATO, and non-EU and non-NATO partners and allies that buy US weapons through our various DSCA and weapons sales programs could simply order more and then donate the extra to Ukraine. What we don’t know and will have to wait to find out is what, if anything, is actually done.

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Today, our main message to the world is: evil cannot prevail – address by the President of Ukraine

5 October 2023 – 21:59

Dear Ukrainians,

We are ending this long and eventful day. The day of the European Political Community Summit. Many meetings, important negotiations.

We will have more air defense systems – there are clear agreements. This is crucial as we approach winter. Spain, Italy, France, Germany, and the United Kingdom – thank you!

There will be more artillery for our warriors. There will be more long-range weapons. And there will certainly be more justice.

Today, Russian terrorists launched an attack that one can’t even call beastly. Because it would be an insult to beasts. A deliberate missile strike on a village in Kharkiv region, targeting a regular grocery store and a café. Russian military personnel couldn’t have been unaware of where they were striking. It was not a blind attack. People had gathered there for a memorial meal, a Christian memorial meal. Who could launch a missile at them? Who? Only absolute evil.

Over 50 people have been killed, including a child, a six-year-old boy. My condolences to all who have lost their loved ones and dear ones!

The wounded are receiving the necessary assistance, and I am grateful to everyone who is helping.

In this village that the Russians struck, there were originally 500 residents before this war. And now, during the war, people have been leaving. It’s in the Kupiansk district, one of the areas where the front line has been particularly fierce… As of today, there were a little over 300 people left in the village. Over 50 killed among 300 residents. This is a brutal genocidal aggression of Russia. There are no words or papers that can stop such evil.

And there is air defense. There is artillery. Our missiles. Armored equipment. Our powerful warriors who repel Russian assaults and advance themselves. There are our special services. There is Ukrainian intelligence. There are sanctions from the world. Sanctions against Russia for terror. There is international justice, in particular the International Criminal Court, capable of protecting justice.

Russian terror must be defeated. And the world has the means to ensure this.

The key is unity. The key is believing in freedom and protecting lives.

Today, our main message to the world is: evil cannot prevail. And only now, only in Ukraine, can this principled moral position be maintained. But together, all together!

I thank each leader of partner countries for our meetings today! I thank you for the clear support from the European Union and the European Parliament.

Thank you, Spain, for giving us all the opportunity today to strengthen European unity.

Unity is the answer. We will do everything to preserve it!

Glory to Ukraine! 

The cost:

Ukrainian musician Andriy Chepil died heroically in battle near Robotyne on June 28.
He played the trembita in the folk-rock band "KORALLI". When the full-scale invasion began, Andriy went to defend his country. He fought near Izyum and Kupyansk in the Kharkiv region. Later, he… pic.twitter.com/G7gXfzNgW5

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 5, 2023

Ukrainian musician Andriy Chepil died heroically in battle near Robotyne on June 28.
He played the trembita in the folk-rock band “KORALLI”. When the full-scale invasion began, Andriy went to defend his country. He fought near Izyum and Kupyansk in the Kharkiv region. Later, he joined the famous 47th Mechanized Brigade. He trained in Germany and became an M2 Bradley commander.

If anyone had any doubts, this is what Putin’s and Russia’s intentions for Ukraine are:

Vladimir Putin, Oct. 5, 2023: "…if Western defense supplies are terminated tomorrow, Ukraine will have a week left to live as it runs out of ammunition."
Any more questions regarding Russia's intentions and negotiability on Ukraine? pic.twitter.com/wSlFLuBiTP

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) October 5, 2023

Russian "writer" Aleksey Sukonkin describes his vision for the future of Ukraine: he predicts the repeat of the 1950s anti-Soviet underground movement, and suggests that Russia has rich experience in eliminating resistance. Just read it, it's even crazier than it sounds. He… pic.twitter.com/UBXzlA6z8J

— WarTranslated (@wartranslated) October 5, 2023

Russian “writer” Aleksey Sukonkin describes his vision for the future of Ukraine: he predicts the repeat of the 1950s anti-Soviet underground movement, and suggests that Russia has rich experience in eliminating resistance. Just read it, it’s even crazier than it sounds. He believes it will take Russia 20 years to establish order (kill everyone who doesn’t want the Russian world on their land).

Thought I would only read such things in history books. As insane as his words sound, I encourage people to believe this is exactly what is going to happen if we do not stop the Moskva regime and the Kremlin Ripper from achieving their goals.

https://t.me/A_S_Sukonkin/5178

The leader of pro-Russian militants of Donetsk, Pavel Gubarev, says that Russia will not be able to kill all Ukrainians, so it will have to create concentration camps in Ukraine to "re-educate" the local population.

Russian speakers use genocidal rhetoric as usual pic.twitter.com/17KFrVREFX

— Денис Казанський (@den_kazansky) October 5, 2023

Putin also can’t help a little casual antisemitism:

Putin: "Odesa is certainly a Russian city, but a little bit Jewish". pic.twitter.com/ZiOUNGmoxB

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) October 5, 2023

Putin also had some thoughts on Prigozhin:

Putin also claims here that the FSB found 10 billion “cash” (doesn’t clarify which currency but assuming rubles) and 5 kilograms of cocaine in Prigozhin’s Saint Petersburg office. https://t.co/H52Et3eLdj

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) October 5, 2023

Wallace is right:

Every time Russia strikes civilians & breaks international law by targeting civilian infrastructure in Ukraine there needs to be a response. We did that with Starstreak and Storm Shadow. Germany should now send their Taurus missile systems to Ukraine and join the UK and France.

— Rt. Hon Ben Wallace (@BenWallace70) October 5, 2023

Hroza, Kharkiv Oblast:

https://twitter.com/rustem_umerov/status/1709932954825486565

https://twitter.com/fpleitgenCNN/status/1710036325288534040

Russian missile struck an ordinary grocery store in the Kupiansk district of the Kharkiv region. This was a fully deliberate, demonstrative, and brutal terrorist attack.

As of now, more than 51 people have been reported dead. My condolences to all those who have lost their loved… pic.twitter.com/yxIW2Xwy35

— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) October 5, 2023

Russian missile struck an ordinary grocery store in the Kupiansk district of the Kharkiv region. This was a fully deliberate, demonstrative, and brutal terrorist attack.

As of now, more than 51 people have been reported dead. My condolences to all those who have lost their loved ones! Assistance is being provided to the wounded.

Russian terror must be stopped. All those who help Russia circumvent sanctions are criminals. Those who continue to support Russia are all supporting evil.

Russia needs this and similar terrorist attacks for one reason only: to make its genocidal aggression the new normal for the entire world. And I thank every leader and every nation that supports us in the defense of life!

We are now focused with European leaders, in particular, on how to strengthen our air defense, reinforce our troops, and protect our country from terror.

Terrorists will face retaliation. One that is both just and powerful.

#RussiaIsATerroristState

Devastating. Almost every family in the village of 330 people had at least one relative at the gathering.

Russia targets eastern Ukrainian village in year’s deadliest attack https://t.co/3C8kXn2sTb via @FT

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) October 5, 2023

Beryslav, Kherson Oblast:

A hospital in Beryslav, Kherson region, after today's shelling by russian terrorists. The fourth floor of the building was destroyed, emergency vehicles were damaged. Two people were injured. pic.twitter.com/89tdx10gY5

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 5, 2023

Irpin:

Irpin. Children are playing near an apartment building that was destroyed by the russians. Reconstruction is now under way.
The Ukrainian spirit is unbreakable. pic.twitter.com/iFCBLUDXTI

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) October 5, 2023

Luhansk & Donetsk:

Tatarigami has another good assessment of what Russia is doing behind the lines in Luhansk and Donetsk. First tweet from the thread followed by the rest from the Thread Reader App:

Russians are actively expanding their training ground facilities in the rear areas of Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts and within Russia. This expansion aims to tackle logistical bottlenecks that arose after the 2022 mobilization, signifying efforts to improve infrastructure. 🧵Thread pic.twitter.com/lOfYQiriWP

— Tatarigami_UA (@Tatarigami_UA) October 5, 2023

2/ In this specific image, we can observe the emergence of a new training facility with fresh infrastructure within the boundaries of preexisting tank training grounds near the Novopavlivka mining settlement in the Khrustalnyi area of Luhansk oblast.Image
3/ A closer examination of the facility reveals the presence of a training lane designated for infantry and armored vehicles like tanks. Furthermore, multiple clusters of smaller buildings have emerged across the training grounds.Image
4/ Numerous expansions and enhancements to facilities like these have been occurring, particularly in late 2022 and continuing into 2023. This suggests that the russians are aiming to optimize their training facility capacities and align training programs with recent experiences 
5/ While this fact may not be groundbreaking on its own, it does, in my view, signify the russian objectives of continuous mobilization and training. It underscores their commitment to a sustained, enduring war of varying intensities, whether it be low or high-intensity warfare. 
6/ If you find this thread useful, I kindly request you to like, follow, and share the first message in the thread.

These materials are accessible thanks to the support received through Buy Me A Coffee. This support enables me to acquire and share imagery with you 

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Vulgar GOP Speculation Open Thread: Gaetz Cawthorned!

by Anne Laurie|  October 5, 20237:18 pm| 183 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Venality, Republicans in Disarray!, Schadenfreude

Oh that's why "Cawthorned" is trending. https://t.co/AwNkf8C39k

— Eyes on the Right (@EyesOnTheRight) October 5, 2023

I’m not betting on Gaetz actually getting ousted — he’s too shameless / vicious to go without the threat of genuine legal jeopardy, and (so far) he’s got the support of Gym Jordan, per NBC:

… Jordan also said he would not support efforts to oust Gaetz from the Republican Conference, a possibility that has been floated by House members who are angry that the Florida lawmaker worked to remove McCarthy from the speaker post.

“I don’t think that’s warranted,” Jordan said. “We’ve got a four-seat majority, Matt’s a talented member of Congress.” Jordan added, “I disagree with what he did … but he’s a great member of our committee … I think we gotta come together.” …

Good luck with that, Gym!

Knives out. Keep it coming, boys. pic.twitter.com/wOoD3CfOmR

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 5, 2023

Sen. Markwayne Mullin dishes some more on Matt Gaetz's behavior in Congress, claiming his first interaction with Gaetz involved him drooling over Kristi Noem and calling her a "fine b-word." pic.twitter.com/KACrBdIwES

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) October 5, 2023

Of course, part of the problem is that half the GOP members probably have almost-as-embarrassing skeletons in their own closets. But any dissension between Republicans, IMO, is good news for the rest of us!

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Would require 2/3 of the conference. 147 members. not impossible, given how much people dislike Gaetz

(Rule 1(b) of House Republican Conference Rules) https://t.co/0jzsfmuZrK

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) October 4, 2023

And, of course, no telling how many more ugly stories are due for release…

Yep Matt Gaetz is getting politically Cawthorned.

Everyone should be expecting the early findings report, of that Ethics Committee investigation into Gaetz, to come out any day now AND for it to be VERY BAD for Gaetz.

Like EXPEL-worthy level of BAD for Gaetz.

Stay tuned. ?? ??

— Phoenix_Ranger_ProdigalSon (@Phoenix_Ranger2) October 5, 2023

Backstory, in case you suppressed the memories:

#Cawthorned KARMA pic.twitter.com/aDvEmgRjDj

— IT’S TIME FOR JUSTICE (@LiddleSavages) October 5, 2023

It’s great that Matt Gaetz is getting #Cawthorned but it’s so telling that the GOP defended this sexual predator for so long, ignoring what they knew about him to protect their corrupt party

No surprise fellow abuser Gym Jordan defends him as he runs for Speaker of the House pic.twitter.com/i73xvJGc0b

— Caitlin of County Kerry (@lynn_of_cait) October 5, 2023

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by WaterGirl|  October 5, 20235:18 pm| 150 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

My mom said if I couldn’t say anything nice, I shouldn’t say anything at all.

NEW: The SEC is seeking to force Musk to testify about his shady stock trades ahead of his acquisition of Twitter. https://t.co/g1u67cTDVm

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) October 5, 2023

Possibly not the result she expected?

Who do you want as Speaker?

— Jenna Ellis (@JennaEllisEsq) October 4, 2023

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by WaterGirl|  October 5, 20232:01 pm| 190 Comments

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Today feels like Friday, so I keep expecting some big announcement.  Alas, it is Thursday.  It wouldn’t be a day ending in Y without a lot going on.

Sounds like Trump is about to find himself in some hot water because he claimed he couldn’t be at the Michael Cohen-related trial because he had to be in NYC for his fraud trial.  Yet he bailed after 3 days, so Cohen is apparently filing something related to that.

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BREAKING: Judge Engoron has issued an ORDER that Trump, Junior, Eric, Weisselberg, and McConney can’t move a DIME or open a business without reporting it to the monitor (Barbara Jones – she was the special master in the Rudy and Cohen cases). 1/ pic.twitter.com/0fl8cc3JnW

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) October 5, 2023

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Thanks to immigrants, the US won 75% of Nobel prizes in 2023. Without them, we only would have won 25%.

High skilled immigration is a policy lever for more innovation unlike anything else. Oh and its free. pic.twitter.com/AhCaRylBMQ

— Adam Ozimek (@ModeledBehavior) October 4, 2023

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“McCarthy mocked Biden’s age and mental acuity in public, while privately telling allies that he found the president sharp and substantive in their conversations — a contradiction that left a deep impression on the White House” https://t.co/w5RfmQpYYx

— Jonathan Lemire (@JonLemire) October 4, 2023

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I thought Trump was offering to “help” the House elect a new Speaker, but this is interesting:

“But I need my trials delayed because I don’t have time in my schedule for them.” https://t.co/jvaxExE7u4

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) October 5, 2023

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This Politico article is sobering.  It shows was a sleaze McCarthy is, but there’s a lot in the article that leaves me worried.  (It’s Politico, maybe that’s the point?)  If the reporting is correct, the White House was counting on McCarthy to get Ukraine funding through.  Now, who knows what will happen.

We are most definitely living in interesting times.

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by Betty Cracker|  October 5, 202311:15 am| 180 Comments

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What could possibly make the House GOP more dysfunctional than it is at present? Well, this:

social media post from trump saying he'll help select speaker

I bet McHenry’s landing gear retracted fully into the old fuselage when he read that!

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Speaking of lumpish Trumps, Lara, who is married to one of the dumb adult Trump sons, released a cover of “I Won’t Back Down” less than a week ago and then appeared on Hannity’s show last night to complain about the lack of attention:

“My song was released last Friday, and let me just say I’m not trying to make a career out of this—I do not fancy myself the next Whitney Houston,” Trump said. She went on to say: “This is the kind of treatment that I think conservatives are used to. We’re used to being censored. We’re used to being shadow-banned.”

Alternative theory: No one is listening because Lara Trump’s whiny, auto-tuned voice on that track is more annoying than if Fran Drescher and the late Gilbert Gottfried had attempted a duet version of Minnie Riperton’s “Loving You.”

The Trump wife’s cover is an insult to the memory of our scruffy Florida boy Tom Petty, and Lara Trump should find another hobby, like teaching her idiot husband to smile without displaying such an alarming acreage of gum tissue.

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Speaking of lumpish chumps, you’ll be shocked to learn that self-declared Speaker candidate Jim Jordan doesn’t know what to do about the motion to vacate rule that Gaetz used to depose McCarthy:

Jordan would not commit to changing the rule, but said he would if that’s what his conference wanted.

“That’s the only way it gets done if that’s what the conference wants,” he said.

Fox & Friends co-anchor Brian Kilmeade returned to the question later and said he was shocked Jordan would not commit to a reform, telling him it’s “impossible” to keep more than 200 people happy.

“It is what it is … we have to figure that out,” Jordan said.

At least one member of the GOP caucus says he won’t vote for anyone who doesn’t commit to getting rid of that rule, and the eight Repubs who kicked McCarthy to the curb probably want to hang onto the option. Maybe it would be best for the country if Repubs leave the rule in place and take turns kicking each other out after short stints in the Speaker’s chair.

Open thread.

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