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Saturday Morning Recap Open Thread: The Impeachment KKKlownshow, So Far

by Anne Laurie|  September 30, 20238:32 am| 124 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Saturday Morning Open Thread:  The Impeachment KKKlownshow, So Far

(Ann Telnaes via WashingtonPost.com)

"Republicans Held an Impeachment Hearing and It Turned Into a Clown Show"https://t.co/ac5y3NfHsV

— Congressional Integrity Project (@usintegrityorg) September 28, 2023

The impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden was already a disappointment before it started on Thursday. In prepared testimony, two of the three witnesses called by Republicans explicitly said there was not enough evidence to warrant removing President Joe Biden from office. This included Jonathan Turley, the law professor and Fox News contributor, who said, “I do not believe that the evidence currently meets the standard of a high crime and misdemeanor needed for an article of impeachment.”…

Republican Lauren Boebert asked Turley, “Where does selling access to an executive office fall in terms of what justifies an impeachment inquiry and what is deemed an impeachable offense?” and got an extended legal discussion, which included multiple references to the U.S. code. “I shouldn’t have asked Turley a question,” she told a staffer, disappointed, as she got up to leave the hearing room. “He was a crappy witness.”…

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The hearing began in chaos when the top Democrat on the committee, Jamie Raskin, almost immediately made a motion that the committee subpoena Rudy Giuliani and Lev Parnas, the former New York mayor’s associate in the 2019 effort to gather dirt on Biden in Ukraine. While almost all the committee’s Democratic members were present, most of the Republicans were not. This meant that the vote dragged on and on as Republicans scrambled to get everyone to show up to vote it down. In order to eat up time during the wait, members who had already voted kept on asking if they were recorded as voting in order to avoid the awkward silence as things dragged on.

Few Republicans were in the hearing room for the duration. Instead, they wandered in and out, bringing coffee and energy drinks to stay alert as the hours ticked by. The Democratic seats were mostly occupied for the first half of the proceedings, and Raskin appeared to grin throughout. In contrast, Comer sat mostly grim-faced and spent time peering at his iPhone when not expressing exasperation at Democrat Dan Goldman for repeatedly asking for unanimous consent for the same deposition from one of Hunter Biden’s business partners to be introduced into evidence again and again. By the end of the hearing, in a near empty room, a visibly peeved Comer was agreeing to this yet again, “for the seventh time without objection,” as Goldman continued to use the deposition to play defense for Biden…

All throughout the hearing, the specter of a likely government shutdown loomed over the proceedings. As they spoke in turn, every Democrat sat next to an iPad, propped up for the television audience, on which the seconds ticked down toward a shutdown. Repeatedly, Democrats raised this pending shutdown to argue that Republicans were simply using the hearing as a distraction from Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s repeated struggles to manage his deeply divided caucus. But based on the emptiness of the room and the banality of the hearing, it just wasn’t much of a distraction.

Other GOPbots besides the egregious Boebert are unhappy — there wasn’t enough clowning for some:

And GOP lawmaker also expressed some disappointment with their performance thus far, telling @AnnieGrayerCNN: “I wish we had more outbursts.”

— Melanie Zanona (@MZanona) September 28, 2023

As we saw in yesterday’s sham "impeachment" inquiry, the House GOP isn’t interested in the facts since they undermine their baseless conclusions.

Impeachment is a solemn, serious process, and the GOP circus is anything but.

It’s time to end the charade and do the people’s work. pic.twitter.com/4oYA6JAghG

— Rep. Dan Goldman (@RepDanGoldman) September 29, 2023

Dan Goldman went after Trump but says there’s no comparison to the ‘bald-faced lies’ against Biden. https://t.co/N1IVBf3j3I

— Intelligencer (@intelligencer) September 28, 2023

How bad is it going for James Comer in today's hearing? Democrats are now mockingly noting that his "guy" Steve Bannon is mad that the GOP called Jonathan Turely as a witness because Turley said there's no impeachable evidence yet. pic.twitter.com/77o4nEOMSt

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) September 28, 2023

Just caught up with Rep. Garcia who told me there was palpable surprise from GOP members in the room when Turley said this. They’re in a bit of “freak out” mode now, he said, because Turley was supposed to be one of their “star witnesses.” https://t.co/rKvFq668Rq

— Ali Vitali (@alivitali) September 28, 2023

But maybe there’s a pony buried at the bottom of this huge pile of…

“It is theater.” Fox News guests admit the Biden impeachment inquiry is simply designed to distract from Trump’s upcoming trials. (Video: Fox News) pic.twitter.com/wDuKij5vtE

— Mike Sington (@MikeSington) September 29, 2023

Breaking: Watch Republican witnesses admit this impeachment trial is a sham. pic.twitter.com/oOAPR44CYX

— Biden’s Wins (@BidensWins) September 28, 2023

Let me get this straight

First, the GOP’s Biden whistleblower Gal Luft was indicted as a paid foreign agent

Then their star witness Devon Archer said Biden didn’t commit crimes

Now their impeachment witnesses are saying Biden shouldn’t be impeached

Do I have this right?! 🤣

— Lindy Li (@lindyli) September 29, 2023

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Cold Grey Dawn Open Thread: Sheriff Elon, Border Enforcer

by Anne Laurie|  September 30, 20234:30 am| 86 Comments

This post is in: GOP Death Cult, Immigration, Open Threads, MONSTERS

Cold Grey Dawn Open Thread: Sheriff Elon, Border Enforcer

The GOP Death Cultists found them a new celebrity advertiser…

Goddamn what a loser https://t.co/pAaNiuTdOk

— Yurok Around The Clock (@HellcatBruce) September 28, 2023

It takes a hell of a lot of nerve for an immigrant from South Africa, like Elon Musk, to go to the U.S. southern border and tell other immigrants who are simply seeking a better way of life to get the fuck out of HIS country. Agree? pic.twitter.com/tqHcHrlJuL

— Lakota Man (@LakotaMan1) September 29, 2023

Cold Grey Dawn Open Thread: Sheriff Elon, Border Enforcer 1

BREAKING: Mid Life Crisis Focuses On Border Crisis

— Yurok Around The Clock (@HellcatBruce) September 29, 2023

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He's running for president, except he fired the person responsible for telling him he has to be born in the US https://t.co/Jq7JTdqiB3

— Yurok Around The Clock (@HellcatBruce) September 29, 2023

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— The Serfs (@theserfstv) September 29, 2023

These live-action recreations have gone too far now. pic.twitter.com/sLftJoYOx0

— Michael Weiss (@michaeldweiss) September 29, 2023

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America’s Best Idea Meets America’s Worst Idea

by @heymistermix.com|  September 29, 20239:10 pm| 47 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Here’s a good backgrounder on the National Park shutdown that will begin October 2, when I, like tens of thousands of others, have reservations in a National Park campground. In the last bullshit shutdown, Trump kept parks “open” and exposed parks them to overflowing trash, off-road vehicles running all over the place, vandalism and damage that is still being repaired. Biden is going to do the responsible thing and close the parks.

A couple of points on this:

First, depending on the park, many visitors are “tourons” who have no idea that National Parks aren’t Disneyland. These people have no idea that it’s really stupid idea to hike to the bottom of the Grand Canyon with your kids, all wearing Crocs. Or that bison aren’t fluffy cows that you can pet. (There are Instagram accounts dedicated to the exploits of tourons here and here.) Without ranger supervision these idiots will cause damage or be killed.

Second, National Park visits are way up since the start of the pandemic. Parks like Acadia, Rocky Mountain, Glacier and Arches (among others) have implemented timed entry permits for popular attractions and roads. Many parks rely on shuttle buses to deal with the massive influx of tourists. At Rocky Mountain, for example, the popular Bear Lake Corridor has special, more limited, timed entry and shuttle buses from remote parking lots. Those lots feature overwhelmed pit toilets and long queues to board the bus. Finally, almost every park has implemented reservation systems for campgrounds, and they’re mostly full. Those reservations are managed by park hosts and rangers. In other words, this ain’t your 2018-2019 National Parks. There’s no way these parks can open unstaffed in 2023.

Finally, Trump did not leave all parks and national monuments open, because I vividly remember trying to visit Capulin Volcano National Monument in New Mexico during the last shitdown, and the gates were locked. It was only the marquee properties, like Joshua Tree, that were left open for assholes to go wilding.

Unfortunately, this will be catastrophic to people who have long-standing plans to visit parks, and the both-sides media will not effectively or clearly tie the cost of thousands of cancelled trips (both to tourists and the towns near parks) to Republicans. It will be “Congress” or “Washington”. Local media will also do a poor job because lots of parks are in red states, or in red parts of purple states, and you well know that Freak Caucus reps like Boebert, Gosar and Hageman will be spinning like crazy to blame the mayhem on anyone but them.

These assholes just want to burn everything down and then shove the matches in Democrats’ pockets. Since only Democrats can have agency, and since being bi-partisan is only expected if you’re a Democrat, the obvious and simple solution of a CR without poison pills — a bill that almost 400 House members would vote for — is not being discussed in the press. That said, I’m not cancelling my reservations yet, because MyKevin might just decide to call the bluff of Gaetz et. al. and schedule a vote on a bi-partisan CR just before midnight on Sunday. I wish a motherfucker would, but it’s hard to predict the actions of the craven when faced with the crazy.

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War for Ukraine Day 583: Zchor Babin Yar!

by Adam L Silverman|  September 29, 20236:55 pm| 15 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, Military, Open Threads, Russia, Silverman on Security, War, War in Ukraine

Picture of the ravine at Babin Yar, Ukraine

(Babin Yar Ravine, Image found here)

Quick housekeeping note: this weekend’s updates will be briefer than usual. I have a bunch of stuff I’m on the hook for. So if I miss anything, put into the comments.

Today is the 82nd anniversary of the massacre at Babin Yar.

Today, Ukraine and the world commemorate the 82nd anniversary of the Babyn Yar massacre, one of the most terrible Nazi crimes committed during the Holocaust.

I paid tribute to the victims and thanked the Ukrainian Jewish community leaders for coming to pray and commemorate them. pic.twitter.com/J3BVpXLqfm

— Volodymyr Zelenskyy / Володимир Зеленський (@ZelenskyyUa) September 29, 2023

It has been 82 years since Nazi occupiers committed their most heinous crime on the territory of Ukraine.
Babyn Yar is one of a number of Holocaust memorial sites in Ukraine. During the Nazi occupation, more than 100,000 Jews, Roma, and Ukrainians were murdered here. Every… pic.twitter.com/0jHQ21Anmz

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) September 29, 2023

It has been 82 years since Nazi occupiers committed their most heinous crime on the territory of Ukraine.
Babyn Yar is one of a number of Holocaust memorial sites in Ukraine. During the Nazi occupation, more than 100,000 Jews, Roma, and Ukrainians were murdered here. Every Ukrainian is reminded each day of this deep wound in the heart of the Ukrainian capital. Never again!

📹 @United24media

Since the history hasn’t changed, here’s what I wrote last year regarding Babin Yar:

As the NAZIs moved on Kyiv in 1941, approximately 100,000 of the city’s 160,000 Jewish citizens were able to flee. On the 26th of September 1941 Sonderkomando 4A commanded by SS-Standartenfuhrer Paul Blobel, were given the implementation order to execute the 60,000 Jews remaining in Kyiv. The precipitating incident was a series of attacks on the Kyivan buildings the NAZIs were using as headquarters. The buildings were actually sabotaged by Soviet NKVD officers who had been left behind in Kyiv to specifically attack the NAZIs and disrupt their operations. Those details were not learned until after WW II ended.

The roundup on the 28th was done as a misdirection; the Jews were told they were going to be relocated to two new developments. This was a lie. On the morning of 29 September, the remaining Jews of Kyiv were marched down the Jewish cemetery in Kyiv and to the Babin Yar ravine. They were ordered to undress, turn over any valuables they had with them, and move the edge of the ravine in groups of ten where the NAZIs executed them using the ravine as a mass grave. Two years later in September 1943 Blobel was ordered back to Kyiv. At the same time orders were given for the disinterment of the mass grave so the Jewish corpses could be cremated. 327 prisoners from the Syretsk concentration camp were brought in as slave labor to destroy the evidence of the NAZI’s crimes against humanity at Babin Yar. 100 of them were Jewish. On the morning of 29 September 1943, two years to the day after the massacre, they learned that the NAZIs planned to execute them as well now that they’d finished the forced labor of covering up the NAZIs crimes. The 327 workers already had an escape plan and they immediately revolted against their captors and put it into effect making a break for the forest. Only fifteen survived. The rest were either shot and killed during the initial break for the tree line or were rounded up and executed by the next morning.

Babin Yar, often with the Russian pronunciation of Babi Yar, became a rallying cry for Jews after World War II and the Holocaust. Zchor Babi Yar, remember Babin Yar, was still being used as the name for a B’nai B’rith Youth Organization (BBYO) chapter when I was a member in the 1980s. In fact I’m pretty sure I have a jersey from that chapter with their name on it in a box of stuff somewhere.

Today, on the anniversary of the NAZIs genocidal acts in Babin Yar, outside of Kyiv, as well as the heroic resistance against those actions two years later, we have 366 days worth of new evidence of Russia’s genocidal acts towards Ukrainians. A fraction of which we document here night after night.

He is not a prisoner of a Nazi concentration camp.
This is a show trial of tortured captive defenders of Mariupol taking place in russia right now.
What will it take for “Never Again” to truly mean Never? pic.twitter.com/0KjFYuHR6d

— Defense of Ukraine (@DefenceU) September 29, 2023

Here is President Zelenskyy’s address from earlier today. Video below, English transcript after the jump.

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Not only thanks to the strength of our weapons but also thanks to the strength of our spirit and humanity, evil will never prevail in Ukraine – address of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy

29 September 2023 – 18:31

Dear Ukrainians,

A brief report on this day. An emotional day.

I began it with events at Babyn Yar.

The 82nd anniversary of the mass shootings of Jews by the Nazis in Babyn Yar.

In just a few days in September 1941, over 30,000 people were killed. In total, during the Nazi occupation, about 100,000 people were killed in Babyn Yar. Jews, as well as Roma and Ukrainians. Representatives of other nations.

Very important to preserve the memory of these victims and of the fact that the evil the Holocaust perpetrated was defeated and punished.

Ukraine preserves such a memory. “Never again!” For us, for Ukraine, for the entire civilized world, these are not empty words. And it will always be so.

It is very symbolic that today I met with our Ukrainian teachers – those on whom, in fact, the preservation of historical memory and much of humanity depends.

This Sunday, Ukraine will celebrate Teacher’s Day – the educators’ day.

Today, I thanked all Ukrainian teachers, educators, instructors, and mentors. All those who undertake one of the most honorable missions in life – educating children in what is necessary to navigate their destiny and be resilient on their life journey.

But education is always more than acquiring knowledge and skills and mastering a profession. It’s about character and its strength. It’s about the clarity of distinguishing between good and evil, which comes when you study human culture.

Education prepares and calibrates a person’s moral compass so that it works, and through this, a person’s work and life enrich humanity. This is very important.

And we see, particularly in what Russia is doing, what happens when the education system has collapsed. When the moral compass of people and society is broken. Evil prevails in such a country.

This will never happen in Ukraine. Not only thanks to the strength of our weapons but also thanks to the strength of our spirit, the strength of Ukrainian characters, our humanity, which will undoubtedly prevail.

This week significantly strengthened our country and our people. There will be important news for Ukraine tomorrow – for our warriors, for our entire state.

We are working to ensure that the coming weeks will add strength to Ukraine – internal strength – and the necessary cooperation with the world. So that the world hears us, understands us, and supports us. I thank everyone who is helping!

Glory to everyone who fights and works for the sake of Ukraine and its people!

Glory to Ukraine!

Andriy Yermak, head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, led a discussion of Ukraine’s seven point peace plan at Babin Yar today. Here are the details:

Andriy Yermak in Babyn Yar discusses implementation of seventh point of Peace Formula regarding restoration of justice with foreign ambassadors

29 September 2023 – 21:17

On the instructions of the President of Ukraine, Head of the Office of the President Andriy Yermak held the ninth meeting with representatives of the diplomatic corps accredited in our country regarding the implementation of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s Peace Formula.

The event was dedicated to the implementation of the seventh point of the Peace Formula “Restoration of Justice.” The meeting, which took place at the National Historical Memorial Preserve Babyn Yar, was attended by representatives from 76 countries, both in person and online.

Andriy Yermak said that the meeting was taking place at a location whose name has become a symbol of honoring the memory of genocide victims.

“The Nuremberg Tribunal forever condemned both those who started the world war and those who executed criminal orders,” he said.

At the same time, the Head of the Presidential Office reminded that victims of the repressions of the Stalinist regime, including those executed in Kyiv’s Bykivnia, are still waiting for justice because the international community has not yet provided proper legal assessment of the actions of this murderous regime, whose descendants continue bringing torture and death.

Andriy Yermak emphasized that the answer to the query of justice is contained in point seven of the Ukrainian Peace Formula, based on international law and the UN Charter.

“The path to ending this war and establishing lasting peace lies only through the complete restoration of justice. Only swift and irrevocable punishment of those responsible for the fundamental crime of aggression and subsequent war crimes, including genocide, will prevent the recurrence of aggressive wars in the future,” he said.

Andriy Yermak reminded that significant work had been done over the past year, and important decisions were made at the international level. In particular, the Registry of Damage for Ukraine has already started its work in The Hague, where claims for compensation for damages and evidence of their occurrence are being submitted by those affected by the war.

The Head of the Presidential Office emphasized the need to move forward and implement a compensation mechanism that would enable the collection of reparations from Russia.

“Currently, we are working on proposals for the relevant international agreement. We would appreciate it if your governments would join this work,” he said.

Traditionally, a briefing was held for the representatives of the diplomatic corps present, during which the Ukrainian vision for the implementation of the Peace Formula point regarding the establishment of justice was given.

Daria Zarivna, Advisor to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, who moderated the event, said that throughout the war, mass graves of the killed and places of torture are constantly discovered on liberated Ukrainian territories. Therefore, the issue of justice is the cornerstone of the Peace Formula and a necessary condition for achieving a truly sustainable, fair, and comprehensive peace.

Ukraine’s Minister of Foreign Affairs Dmytro Kuleba emphasized that all those guilty of war crimes against Ukrainians must be held accountable without exception. According to him, there is no alternative to an international tribunal that will establish Russia’s guilt.

“Ukrainians and the entire world demand justice, which must prevail through joint efforts. We must act now to prevent such crimes in the future,” he said.

Prosecutor General Andriy Kostin presented a work plan for point seven of the Peace Formula, designed for 2023-2026.

He said that point seven of the Peace Formula relies on pillars such as ensuring effective investigations at the national level, ensuring accountability for the crime of aggression, strategic partnership with international justice mechanisms, and promoting bilateral and multilateral intergovernmental partnerships for the investigation and prosecution of international crimes.

Another fundamental issue is the compensation and restitution for the damage caused to Ukraine and Ukrainians by Russian aggression.

Deputy Minister of Justice of Ukraine Iryna Mudra said that Russia’s frozen sovereign assets in Western jurisdictions and funds of sanctioned Russian businessmen and oligarchs should become an important source of payment for compensation mechanisms. Work is underway to implement the corresponding action plan.

Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Finance of Canada Chrystia Freeland said during her online speech at the meeting that her country has already legislated the ability to direct confiscated sanctioned Russian assets to support Ukraine and is ready to share the relevant experience with other states.

Lawrence Summers, an American economist and the honorary rector of Harvard University, emphasized the importance of timely consensus decisions today. He stated that from the perspective of international law, it is entirely legitimate to use Russian assets for Ukraine’s economic recovery and to support the victims of Russian aggression.

Deputy Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine Andriy Smyrnov told the diplomats about the search for the optimal format for a special international tribunal for the crime of aggression against Ukraine.

Ambassador at Large of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Anton Korynevych informed about the activities of the Core Group on the establishment of a tribunal for the crime of aggression against Ukraine, which has already involved 38 states.

Representatives of the foreign diplomatic corps expressed their views on the importance of justice and the work that Ukraine, together with its partners, is undertaking to implement the relevant point of the Peace Formula.

At the end of the meeting, Andriy Yermak thanked all the participants and announced that preparations have already begun for the next meeting of national security advisors and political directors of foreign ministries of the world’s states regarding the key principles of achieving a sustainable and just peace for Ukraine.

No new Russian mass mobilization this year. Just the regular annual one.

So, the Kremlin has decided against a new wave of mass mobilization this year.

In Russia, yet another military call-up season (that's about compulsory conscripts aged between 18 and 27 and not about war mobilization) begins on October 1.

This period ends on December 31. Which…

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) September 29, 2023

So, the Kremlin has decided against a new wave of mass mobilization this year.

In Russia, yet another military call-up season (that’s about compulsory conscripts aged between 18 and 27 and not about war mobilization) begins on October 1.

This period ends on December 31. Which essentially means no mobilization waves until at least the beginning of 2024. The system can’t handle both processes at the same time – which is why Russians had to delay yet another call-up season in the fall of 2022 due to the mobilization announced.

And in the next year, say hello to the shit show of Putin’s “re-election” for his fifth term next March.

IMHO, it’s very unlikely that Putin gives a go to a new mobilization wave (300,000-400,000 more men to be drafted) in the ever of presidential elections – given how naturally disastrous such a reluctant move was last year.

Well, unless something really bad happens at the front line (like last year’s Ukrainan breakthrough at Kharkiv) and they have to hastily plug holes with masses of cannon fodder and halt dangerous Ukrainan advances.

Despite very obvious need for hundreds of thousands of mobiks to keep the front-line stalemate stable, the Kremlin again defies dire military necessity for the sake of its own political comfort within Russia.

Which is good — given that extreme tiredness and exhaustion are growing in the Russian military after a year in combat with little to no rest, this will continue impeding Russia’s strength in the upcoming winter campaign.

Fuck you and your desperate need for frontline rotation and rest, dear Russian mobik rotting in trenches for a year — the Tsar considers yet another massive draft campaign for a senseless, unwinnable war too risky for his rule at the moment.

So the Kremlin is likely declare a new mobilization wave following the March elections – as always, way too late for the Russian military, thankfully.

My question here: is the Russian military even physically capable of having 400,000 more men to be hunted down from streets, organized, trained, given commanders, and armed as military units?

A lot of unpleasant things may happen within the next year before Putin’s wet dream — the return of Donald Trump — comes (or doesn’t come) true.

Tokmak:

It looks like there was a huge Russian goodwill gesture near Tokmak last night.
A Sukhoi Su-35 is down, very possibly a friendly fire incident. pic.twitter.com/QcIfP9hHPH

— Illia Ponomarenko 🇺🇦 (@IAPonomarenko) September 29, 2023

Tonight there were reports that Russians shot down their own fighter jet over Tokmak.
Now, Russian source associated with Russian military aviation seems to confirm this incident and it seems that the downed fighter was Sukhoi Su-35. https://t.co/i2RuyIe6GA pic.twitter.com/lvvXl406Up

— Special Kherson Cat 🐈🇺🇦 (@bayraktar_1love) September 29, 2023

Sorokyne:

https://twitter.com/Tatarigami_UA/status/1707826356719960335

Melitopol:

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1707788255695941711

Southern front, so probably either Kherzon or Zaporizhzhia Oblasts:

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1707831854760431657

Touch not the cat, but a glove!

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1707767075366686964

Chernihiv:

DIY air defense!

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1707741397942501593

Residents of the Kyiv region illegally acquired and stored Russian anti-aircraft missile system and ammunition. At first, the police discovered and seized the TOR air defense system (Unfortunately, the photo has not been published), later police managed to establish the location of the ammunition.
According to preliminary data, the weapon was left by Russian troops during hostilities in the territory of Chernihiv region.
https://google.com/amp/s/bykvu.com/ua/bukvy/zbroia-na-ponad-30-milioniv-hryven-politsiia-kyivshchyny-vykryla-zlovmysnykiv-iaki-zberihaly-zrk-okupantiv/amp/

Magyar’s Birds! Urozhaine, Donetsk Oblast:

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1707804466865406416

Kharkiv:

https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/status/1707812835261084002

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1707686396062842970

That’s enough for tonight.

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Friday Evening Bad Faith Open Thread: RFK Jr. And His Fellow Ratf*ckers

by Anne Laurie|  September 29, 20236:47 pm| 113 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Primaries, Excellent Links, Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Assholes

NEWS

RFK Jr. plans to announce he will run as an independent on October 9 in Pennsylvania.

Kennedy’s campaign is now planning attack ads against the DNC in order to pave the way for his announcement.@dianafalzone scoopshttps://t.co/F3vuXNJf9a

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) September 29, 2023

The same people who told you Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. would never run as an independent are now telling you not to worry because no Democrats will vote for him.

They are wrong on both counts.

Uninformed people are sucked into lies and misinformation daily and as 2016 demonstrated

— Don Winslow (@donwinslow) September 29, 2023

Any candidate backed by both Steve Bannon and Roger Stone has to be garbage.

In a surprise to exactly nobody, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is going to announce that he's running as an independent.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has ZERO chance of winning.
A vote for him is a completely wasted… pic.twitter.com/9vICnmMU8u

— BrooklynDad_Defiant!☮️ (@mmpadellan) September 29, 2023

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I drafted the post below last night, planning to run it over the weekend when people had more time to read. RFK Jr isn’t offering West a vice-presidential slot (from what I’ve seen, that’s Tulsi Gabbard’s role in the spoiler-thon). And West almost certainly wouldn’t run in a VP slot, because he’s already got the Green Party’s funding locked in. But we can count on every political grifter not currently incarcerated to make a jump for the gravy train over the next 13 months…

New Interview; I talked to the former Clinton staffer Peter Daou about his long journey to running the Cornel West campaign, his feelings about Trump and January 6th, and why he believes Democrats have been interfering in elections. https://t.co/za6PQ40DFx

— Isaac Chotiner (@IChotiner) September 28, 2023

TL, DR: Peter Daou has always been a ‘strong believer‘ in whatever political campaign would pay him enough, but his unsavory habits — like ‘independently’ praising Bernie Sanders while he was negotiating for a job as Sanders’ press agent back in 2016 — have made it impossible for him to get a job with any self-respecting Democratic candidate. Since there’s already a ton of well-connected competitors on the Republican side of the aisle, Dauo is now (IMO) transitioning by serving for Green Party candidate / spoiler Cornel West (after jumping ship from the sinking SS Marianne Williamson). “Peter Daou’s Theory of Election Interference—by Democrats”:

Peter Daou, a former aide to Hillary Clinton, recently announced that he had become the campaign manager for Cornel West, the radical socialist professor and public intellectual, who is seeking the Presidential nomination from the Green Party. It was the culmination of a fascinating arc for Daou, who was a legendary figure in the early liberal blogosphere, where he became known for his criticisms of the Bush Administration before joining John Kerry’s 2004 Presidential campaign. Four years later, he ran Clinton’s digital operation, and became known as one of her most high-profile and vocal online supporters. Then, in 2016, for Clinton’s second Presidential run, Daou ran the platform Shareblue, a partisan news site that attacked mainstream coverage of the race and fanatically defended Clinton. By 2020, he had endorsed Bernie Sanders; he subsequently left the Democratic Party. (Before joining West’s campaign, he briefly ran Marianne Williamson’s.) Daou now says his career as a fanatical Democratic partisan was misguided, and that the entire political system needs to be uprooted; he believes West’s campaign is the best vehicle for such a change…

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Most people would say that Joe Biden is to the left of where Hillary Clinton was in 2008, or indeed where Joe Biden was in 2008. Do you think that’s an accurate diagnosis?

I don’t think so. Having done more research and digging, thinking about leftism, liberalism, progressivism, neoliberalism, getting a little bit deeper into how this terminology is used, I just think back to the support from the Democratic Party for George W. Bush’s war in Iraq and war on terror, which are based on lies. I don’t really see it in terms of movement to the left or to the right. Honestly, Isaac, I look at it systemically. I always looked at it as red and blue, and finally when I quit the Party, in 2020, I started looking at it as the system, and the Democratic Party comprises half of that system. Or maybe more, you know what I’m saying?…

Would the Iraq War and the war on terror be a good example of what I meant? You have a President now who’s pulled us out of the war in Afghanistan, who’s drastically reduced drone strikes, who’s tried to tamp down the war on terror, whereas, in the Bush era, even if the majority of congressional Democrats voted against the Iraq War, many voted for it, and both parties supported the war on terror.

I don’t see it that way, but I know a lot of Democrats do. I see Joe Biden and the people around him, some of the neocons he’s getting advice from, as sabre-rattling warmongers who are actually making the world a more dangerous place. Now, I’ve always said that I don’t support, as a leftist myself, any imperialist invasion, and that includes the invasion of Ukraine. I believe the war is a criminal imperial invasion of another country. However, having said that, this Administration has rattled and provoked and escalated the rhetoric from Day One. From my standpoint, I look at this Administration as bigger warmongers than what you’re talking about in the period prior to 2008…

As recently as 2020, you were opposed to a third-party candidate because of the urgent need to beat Donald Trump. What changed between early 2020 and now?

Yeah, it’s a very fundamental change in perspective. It’s almost like I took a different set of glasses or lenses and I put them on, and that lens is the systemic lens. During the years I worked as a Democrat, I bought into the general thinking that Democrats are better and therefore we need Democrats to stop the fascist domination of Republicans. If you go back ten, twenty, thirty, forty years, it’s the same argument: Oh, my God, if you let them get elected, the world’s going to end. This is a very standard duopoly technique.

Now when I finally took off that lens, the binary red-blue, blue-is-better-than-red lens, and I took responsibility for wearing that lens or looking through that lens, then my lens became, O.K., look at the entire system. Let’s say this cycle we also say the same thing, which is, Oh, my God, we have to stop Donald Trump or we have to stop whoever the Republican might be. And this happens the next cycle and the next cycle and the next cycle. Where is the so-called democracy that we’re supposedly protecting or saving? What we’re doing is we’re crushing third parties.We are stifling democracy itself, Isaac. This is the problem. From my standpoint, there are things that Biden has done that made the world more dangerous than Trump, and there are things Trump did that made the world more dangerous than Biden, and both of them go back and forth. You see what I’m saying?

I maybe need a different pair of lenses to totally see it.…

When it came to the idea of John McCain or Mitt Romney being elected President, in 2008 and 2012, I certainly remember Democrats saying, Oh, this would be bad. And maybe the extreme partisans would say, If Mitt Romney gets elected, the world’s going to end. But I don’t think that was the overwhelming idea. With Trump, it’s a little different, in part because he actually tried to steal a democratic election.

I have been one of the most vocal opponents of Donald Trump. In 2020, I was creating so many anti-Trump viral hashtags and videos. I was out there fighting this guy from Day One.

You recently wrote that “Trump’s two impeachments and four indictments are largely smokescreens,” correct?

Yeah. Well, the reason I say that is because he wasn’t impeached or indicted on the worst things he’s done, because the worst things he’s done, Democrats do, too.

January 6th? That seems high up there.

January 6th, that, too. But take a look at what Democrats are currently doing. See, this is when you start comparing good and bad…

I realize we might just have a factual disagreement now. What’s your interpretation of what happened on January 6th?

I’m not going to talk about the details of January 6th. What happened on January 6th was wrong. People died, and it was certainly a threat to a process. But here’s the problem: the premise is that we had a vibrant democracy and then a bunch of people stormed the Capitol and threatened it. What I’m trying to tell you is that I don’t even believe we have a so-called democracy. What we have is a duopoly, or an oligarchy, in which the vast majority of people suffer.

Just to clarify, you seem to be saying that before January 6th we had maneuvers such as Obama making backroom deals in the primary, and so when people say that we were about to lose democracy on January 6th, you think we actually were not at risk of that. Instead, we were at risk of losing a system where Barack Obama can call people up and get them to drop out.

But it’s not just the Barack Obama part. My main point is that there has been a systemic eradication of all the routes that third parties can take, which is a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment. Let alone this constantly propagandistic vote shaming. Vote shaming is voter suppression. When you tell someone you cannot vote your conscience because you will ruin the world, that is voter suppression…

Peter declared over and over on this app that he had no skin in the game and was calling for someone to replace Biden because he felt that was what the country and party needed.

Now it turns out he is running West's campaign.

Hmm.

— Seahawk (@anderson_corri) September 28, 2023

Who has the "picking up a phone call from Chotiner is a clinical diagnostic for Dunning-Kruger" tweet bc this is an all-time use case for it

— DC_Explorer (@DC_Explorer) September 28, 2023

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I Did Not Get the Memo (Open Thread)

by WaterGirl|  September 29, 20236:01 pm| 49 Comments

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Apparently, today is a front-pager holiday, and I did not get the memo.  Betty is out of town, Cole is crazy busy this week, and Anne Laurie gets to sleep sometime.  If everyone else is at a party, I will be cranky.

Open thread.

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Oligarchs, Insurrectionists, Authoritarians, and Wanna Be Dictators

by WaterGirl|  September 29, 20231:55 pm| 210 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Trump Indictments

So many things happening on so many fronts!

🚨🚨🚨At his retirement ceremony, Gen. Mark Milley attacks Trump in a major way: “We don’t take an oath to a king, or queen, or a tyrant or a dictator. And we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator. We take an oath to the Constitution. We are willing to die to protect it”.

— Spiro’s Ghost (@AntiToxicPeople) September 29, 2023

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In indictment news:

Judge Scott McAfee DENIES Ken Chesebro’s (1) motion to suppress evidence obtained from his Microsoft email account and (2) motion to dismiss on grounds that Chesebro did the alleged conduct while “fulfilling his duties to a client as an attorney.” pic.twitter.com/wMmklIoF1n

— Anna Bower (@AnnaBower) September 29, 2023

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In a surprise move, Trump declines to seek removal. 2 upsides: 1) neednt preview his defense or testify (not that he would have); 2) case in front of republican state judge up for reelection, rather than Obama appointed federal judge. https://t.co/Ez6s7qmA7r

— Harry Litman (@harrylitman) September 28, 2023

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If you were wondering why trump ordered the house republicans to shut down the government and kick children and infants off assistance and not pay our troops – here’s why: https://t.co/RLFzHK0a3G

— Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) September 29, 2023

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The lawsuit accuses Tesla of violating “federal law by tolerating widespread and ongoing racial harassment of its Black employees and by subjecting some of these workers to retaliation for opposing the harassment.” https://t.co/VHBWNo5FE4

— NBC News (@NBCNews) September 28, 2023

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Open thread.

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