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Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

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Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Another Ramp-Up in the Repub Clown Contest

by Anne Laurie|  November 24, 20154:15 pm| 81 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Assholes

.@WSJ reports that @GOP getting ready to treat me unfairly—big spending planned against me. That wasn’t the deal!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 23, 2015

Liz Mair's group which has yet to raise $ is vehicle for dealbreaker https://t.co/BmQMXKdmpq

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) November 23, 2015

Hey, remember Liz Mair’s cunning plan? Maybe she was a Trump operative all along!

Stages of Trump denial: 1-It's a PR stunt! 2-Just flavor of the month! 3-Carson rising! 4-(Sweating) Party decides, right? 5-…what now?

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) November 24, 2015

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Apart from pointing & laughing, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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Open Thread: Trump’s Fans Go Full Brownshirt

by Anne Laurie|  November 22, 20154:31 pm| 116 Comments

This post is in: #BLM #M4BL, Election 2016, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republican Venality

Donald Trump on his Black Lives Matter heckler: 'Maybe he should have been roughed up' https://t.co/lrX7pbJ3Vw pic.twitter.com/MCXnyv2aug

— Business Insider (@businessinsider) November 22, 2015

At last, an experiment to answer the plaint, “How come those #BLM protestors aren’t disrupting Trump rallies?” Per NYMag, “Black Lives Matter Protester Tackled by Crowd at Trump Rally in Alabama“:

CNN reports that a black protester who tried to disrupt Donald Trump’s campaign rally in Alabama Saturday was involved in an altercation with several crowd members. The man was shouting “black lives matter” and wearing a shirt adorned with the same statement, and members of the crowd apparently took it upon themselves to intervene. The Montgomery Advertiser notes that he was one of three protesters who had entered the Birmingham Jefferson Convention Complex about 35 minutes into Trump’s speech in an attempt to disrupt it.

According to the Advertiser, event staff asked the protesters to stop, and two then did while the third continued to protest. An anonymous Trump staffer said that “the guy was being disruptive. He was doing the Black Lives Matter thing and saying other phrases that were really firing up the crowd around him. He was throwing his hands around almost punching.” But according to CNN, the protester was shoved and tackled by several people — all of whom were white — and also punched by at least one man and kicked by one woman while he was on the ground. Security officers eventually escorted the man out of the rally, and at least one attendee can be heard chanting “all lives matter” in response. The anonymous Trump staff member insisted the protester’s removal was a safety issue, because “the guy was intentionally antagonizing the crowd.”

The man did not need medical attention. No arrests were made but three people were reportedly asked to leave the rally after the altercation, though it’s not clear if they were protesters or attendees. As the protest happened, Trump responded by ridiculing the protester and saying “get him the hell out of here.”… Trump also differentiated himself from Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, who Trump says allowed (Black Lives Matter) protesters to take over one of his rallies because Sanders was too politically correct. Trump then assured the crowd that would never happen at one of his rallies…

Gotta say, for wanna-be thugs, these guys seem to be on the same tactical level as a bunch of fourth graders — lots of posing-in-front-of-the-bathroom-mirror MMA-on-the-tv stances, shouting slogans, flailing, a sneaky kick or poke once the professionals swarm the protestor. A suicide bomber wouldn’t even need to set off his vest to take out these noble defenders of FREEDUMB!!! — one look at an actual physical threat and they’d trample each other, shitting themselves in terror.

Interview with protestor Mercutio Southall here.

If a Tea Party protestor at a Hillary rally was treated like a BLM one at a a Trump rally, how many Fox shows would he be booked on?

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 21, 2015

"When fascism comes to America it'll be very phenomenal and very, very classy." – Upton Sinclair

— elias isquith (@eliasisquith) November 22, 2015

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Open Thread: “Establishment” GOP Has A Cunning Plan…

by Anne Laurie|  November 21, 20152:43 pm| 135 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Repubs in Disarray!, Assholes

Derp Furor. pic.twitter.com/ZcVREq6aDg

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 20, 2015

Nate Cohn, in the NYTimes, says “The G.O.P. Establishment Has a Big New Hampshire Problem“:

The last two Republican presidential primary contests have followed the same script: A conservative candidate wins in Iowa, a relative moderate wins in New Hampshire, and the latter — with broader appeal and all of the establishment’s resources — outlasts the former in a protracted fight for the nomination.

But so far this cycle, New Hampshire’s voters aren’t playing along. Donald Trump has led every poll in New Hampshire since June. Candidates like Marco Rubio and Jeb Bush have struggled to get out of the single digits.

The weakness of mainstream candidates in New Hampshire poses a big challenge for the party’s beleaguered establishment. If a candidate acceptable to the party can’t win New Hampshire or Iowa, the G.O.P. will face a bleak choice: undertake the daunting and expensive task of mounting a come-from-behind effort, or grudgingly acquiesce to a candidate it really doesn’t want, like Ted Cruz, but who may be better than someone it can never accept, like Mr. Trump….

How is Mr. Trump doing so well? He’s drawing on many moderate and secular voters who haven’t supported the anti-establishment but usually religious candidates who have fared well in Iowa. The same pattern emerges in national polls, which often show Mr. Trump faring best among self-described moderates…

No worries, reports the Wall Street Journal — “GOP Operative Plans ‘Guerrilla Campaign’ Against Donald Trump“:

The Republican establishment, increasingly alarmed by the enduring strength of Donald Trump’s presidential bid, is ratcheting up efforts to knock him out of the race, including the first attempt to unite donors from rival camps into a single anti-Trump force.

A well-connected GOP operative is planning a “guerrilla campaign” backed by secret donors to “defeat and destroy” the celebrity businessman’s candidacy, according to a memo reviewed by The Wall Street Journal…

… The sense of urgency has mounted in part because Mr. Trump continues at or near the top of GOP polls, even after many predicted that the Paris terror attacks would lead voters to turn to a more seasoned candidate.

The most concerted effort is Trump Card LLC, the self-styled guerrilla campaign being launched by Liz Mair, the former online communications director of the Republican National Committee.

“In the absence of our efforts, Trump is exceedingly unlikely to implode or be forced out of the race,” according to the Trump Card memo. “The stark reality is that unless something dramatic and unconventional is done, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary Clinton will become president.”

Opposition research, grass-roots organizing and donor outreach has been going on for weeks, Ms. Mair said, while declining to name any backers. “It’s loosely organized and highly confidential,” she said. “I certainly know donors who are very happy that their fingerprints will be kept off things.”…

Ms. Mair, who has ties to the libertarian movement and the GOP establishment, said that donors backing Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, Mr. Kasich and Mr. Bush are interested, and that some worry that going public could hurt their candidate…

…[P]ossible tactics include fake pro-Trump ads that show him supporting socialized medicine, seizing property through eminent domain and taking other positions that stray from GOP orthodoxy; using a Trump impersonator to show him insulting people; and attacking his business record in “stark, nasty terms.”

The goal, according to the memo, isn’t to convert Mr. Trump’s supporters into backing other candidates, but to dissuade them from voting altogether, especially in New Hampshire’s influential first-in-the-nation primary…

My emphases. If you have a dim memory of reading about Liz Mair in the not-too-distant past, she was the hip young digital strategist hastily sin-binned by Scott Walker’s campaign for WrongThink:

… “In other news, I see Iowa is once again embarrassing itself, and the GOP, this morning. Thanks, guys,” Mair wrote of a January event hosted by conservative Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), according to the Associated Press. “The sooner we remove Iowa’s front-running status, the better off American politics and policy will be.”…

So, she’s not in the business to be loved, obviously. Whether she and her “donors” can actually do much to kneecap Donald “Il Douche” Trump… well, The Hairpiece would certainly be a high-value trophy for an oppo-research firm with no ethics, assuming that last clause isn’t redundant.

"Secret guerrilla plan" to stop Trump & "save the party" conducted by ppl who nearly destroyed the party. https://t.co/wDgkwdHK7x

— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) November 20, 2015

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Open Thread: The Tire Rims and Anthrax Candidate!

by Anne Laurie|  November 20, 201512:33 am| 184 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Our Failed Media Experiment

The press guffawed when Obama eviscerated Trump at the correspondents dinner but think the clown deserves respect now that he's a fascist?

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 20, 2015

There’s a lot of American voters who just want to blow up the world, per Reuters:

American voters are evenly split between Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump and Democratic rival Hillary Clinton as their top choice to address the issue of terrorism following the Paris attacks, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

Asked to choose from the entire field of 2016 presidential hopefuls, 20 percent of 1,106 respondents surveyed between Nov. 16-17 opted for Trump. An equal share of the electorate picked Clinton.(polling.reuters.com/#!poll/TM743Y15)

Given Clinton’s background as a former secretary of state it is perhaps not surprising that she did reasonably well in the poll. However, Trump’s good showing upends an emerging narrative that the Paris shootings and suicide bombings would prompt voters to rethink their support for the real estate billionaire, who leads the field of Republican presidential candidates…

Glenn Matlosz, 71, of Audubon, New Jersey, said Trump would be the most able to address terrorism because he’s proven to be a straight talker.

“He’s telling it as it is,” said Matlosz, who describes himself as a Democrat. “He’s not mincing any words. There is no gobbledygook there. Everybody else is squawking.”…

Republican strategist Steve Schmidt said voters respond to candidates they perceive as taking a tough stance and aren’t necessarily looking at their biographies…

Trump is talking broadly about his approach instead of bogging voters down with details, said Republican strategist John Feehery.

“He’s the one who is speaking in the simplest language that is most understandable to the average voter,” Feehery said. “He’s not talking about ‘no-fly’ zones. He’s not getting into policy. He’s talking about, ‘Lets go kill ISIS.'”…

Translation: And the permanent Republican “establishment” is totally fine with an ignorant loudmouth whose solution to every world problem is YELL ABOUT BLOWING STUFF UP….

We used to worry that Trump was going to make Jeb or Rubio look moderate, but actually Carson made Trump look moderate and rational.

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) November 18, 2015

Jenna Johnson, reporting for the Washington Post:

WORCESTER, Mass. — As police officers escorted a shouting protester out of the rally Donald Trump held in a converted ice hockey arena on Wednesday night, the crowd of 10,500 held up their cellphone cameras, booed and then chanted: “USA! USA! USA!”

“Isn’t a Trump rally much more exciting than these other ones?” the presidential candidate marveled as he took in the scene. “And that kind of stuff only adds to the excitement, I tell you. Just incredible.”…

During a press conference before the rally, reporters pressed Trump to explain why he continues to say President Obama plans to resettle 250,000 Syrian refugees in the United States even though the administration has only publicly committed to accepting 10,000. Trump said his larger number comes from a “pretty good source” and is likely accurate because he has correctly predicted a number of other foreign events, including the rise of Osama bin Laden.

“You watch,” he said, “I’ll be right.”

Trump once again cursed as he described what he would do as president to Islamic State terrorists: “We’ve got to knock the s— out of these people. We’ve got to do it. We’ve got to do it.” The crowd once again began chanting: “USA! USA! USA!”…

And Trump continued to warn his supporters that these terrorists could use the Internet as a weapon.

“They’re using the Internet, and they’re recruiting people,” Trump said. “We’ve got to take back the Internet because they are taking people. They’re literally brainwashing people. They’re brainwashing our youth… We can’t let that happen. We have innocent youth, and they are misguided.”…

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Throughout the evening there were sporadic outbursts from protesters who were led away by police, often shouting and struggling as they went. As television journalists rushed to capture these interactions, Trump’s campaign staff members tried to block several of them from doing so, refusing to let reporters leave a barricaded work area they called “the pen.”

After CNN reporter Noah Gray left “the pen” to document a group of protesters who unveiled a sign reading “Migrant lives matter,” Trump’s campaign manager Corey Lewandowski turned to campaign spokeswoman Hope Hicks and said: “Hey: Tell Noah, get back in the pen or he’s f—— blacklisted,” according to a recording of the incident.

As Gray went into the crowd to film reaction to the sign, which had already been taken down, Lewandowski confronted him directly: “Inside the pen, or I will pull your credentials. Media goes in the pen.” Lewandowski at first said the order was because of security, but then said: “I’m telling you. I’m telling you. Media stays in the pen.”…

As he often does at rallies, Trump asked the crowd what should happen to Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who abandoned his post in Afghanistan in 2009, was held hostage and then rescued. Trump called Bergdahl “a dirty, rotten traitor.”

“What do we do with Sgt. Bergdahl, 50 years ago?” Trump asked, calling on an older man sitting near the front who stood and shaped his hand like a gun. “That’s right. Boom. Boom!… Boom, he’s gone. He’s gone!”…

A great people besieged by evil forces, its young people “lead astray” by wicked propaganda and a media that does not know its place, riddled with traitors, fifth columnists, social parasites? There’s a name for that ideology, as some candy-arsed lie-bral at the far-left Fiscal Times complains…

… Trump’s campaign — literally from the moment he announced it by claiming that the Mexican government is sending rapists and murderers into the U.S. — has been based on a combination of whipping up fear of some shadowy outside force bent on harming “real” Americans, alleging the existence of an additional threat in the form of some sort of fifth column inside the country, and then offering himself as the great protector who will stand in its way.

There’s powerful historical precedent for people coming to power in that way. Google it. It always ends badly…

Official crowd count for Donald Trump's rally in Worcester tonight, according to arena officials: 10,500. HT @stevefosketttg

— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) November 19, 2015

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Sunday Evening Pop Culture Nostalgia Acts Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  November 8, 20154:24 pm| 171 Comments

This post is in: Hail to the Hairpiece, Movies, Open Threads, Popular Culture, Television

I will resist watching this I will resist watching this OH NO I WON'T WHY ISN'T IT DECEMBER 18th ALREADY??!! https://t.co/5I6f0fKR5f

— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) November 6, 2015

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pic.twitter.com/TeiLhITxPD

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) November 8, 2015

Larry David is heckling Donald Trump. The universe is complete.

— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) November 8, 2015

Based on this sketches so far, I can't tell if Trump is bombing because he's bad at comedy or if the writers are bad at comedy or both.

— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) November 8, 2015

I think some readers might be interested in that trailer.

As for the other stuff, does anybody who cared enough to watch Saturday Night Live want to share a review?

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Late Night Open Thread: The RNC’s Never-Ending Debate Dumpster Fire

by Anne Laurie|  November 3, 20153:57 am| 120 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Repubs in Disarray!, Assholes

Has it ever occurred to the GOP that instead of dumbing down the debates they could smarten up their candidates?

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 3, 2015

SCOOP: Trump to deal directly w/ networks, blowing up group GOP debate effort, with @daveweigel https://t.co/3bwnsMP1mG

— Robert Costa (@costareports) November 2, 2015

Well, that certainly went well. From the Washington Post, company paper in the town whose monopoly industry is national politics, Monday evening:

The format and content of upcoming Republican debates became increasingly uncertain on Monday after Donald Trump’s campaign said the real estate mogul would negotiate his terms directly with television executives instead of as part of a joint effort with his rivals.

The move by Trump, coming just hours after his and other campaigns huddled in a Washington suburb to craft a three-page letter of possible demands, thwarts an effort to find consensus after what most candidates agreed was a debacle hosted by CNBC last week…

Parties control fewer things in super PAC era. So RNC tried to seize what was left. But that's now in jeopardy. https://t.co/f3wJ3JwuXK

— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) November 2, 2015

Lost in debate freak-out: 2012 debates were overwhelmingly *good* for Romney until Newt blew out SC. Primary, not debates, pulled him right.

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) November 2, 2015

Back story, from Jim Newell at Slate – “The GOP’s Presidential Contenders Are Hijacking Their Own Debates“:

In a Godfather-esque gathering of rival political concerns, representatives of the Republican presidential campaigns gathered in an Alexandria, Virginia Hilton on Sunday evening to draw up a list of conditions for their participation in future presidential debates. The campaigns still are all het up about the completely unfair questioning that business-Republican network CNBC subjected them to last week, such as, Marco Rubio, your tax plan is really good for the wealthy, no? or, Ben Carson, why were you in bed with this snake-oil company for so many years? If the moderators had asked fair questions, see, the candidates wouldn’t have been forced to lie. What’s so complicated about that?…

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The campaigns and their consiglieres put together a list of demands to which future debate hosts must agree to ensure the candidates’ participation. The finalized version, as obtained by the Washington Post, is hilarious in its granularity. Not once but twice does the document inveigh against “lightening [sic] rounds,” which must be banned “because of their frivolousness or ‘gotcha’ nature, or in some cases both.” The letter also implores networks to agree not to “ask the candidates to raise their hands to answer a question,” “allow candidate-to-candidate questioning,” “allow props or pledges by the candidates,” “show an empty podium after a break (describe how far away the bathrooms are),” or “leaves microphones on after breaks.” What about allowing hot mics in the distant bathrooms? There’s no clear rule on that, though it would certainly violate the spirit of the letter…

What was the point of having the RNC serve as middleman in the first place? To navigate the party through the primary process in a way that didn’t damage the eventual nominee too much before the general election. Priebus was able to cut the number of debates roughly in half, and he ensured that no mischievous entity like MSNBC was granted hosting duties. The candidates have found his efforts lacking, though, and are using the leverage that’s available to them as a group to run the show themselves. So far, it looks like they’ll use that power to ensure that they don’t, for even a hot second, have to factor general-election considerations into their primary strategies…

Letting the RNC pick the moderators and the format while letting the networks keep the ad profits seems like a good win-win to me.

— Joseph Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) November 2, 2015

Good test of which networks really see themselves as news orgs, & which just want broadcast rights to a big fight https://t.co/G2aW2tgD9e

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) November 2, 2015

Candidates remember they're competing against one another! Trump liaison of convenience w Carson not so convenient! https://t.co/5kg9dH0qYh

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) November 3, 2015

The Post, again:

… The consternation marked the latest turn in a debate process that has grown more problematic by the day. Officials with the Republican National Committee took control of the process for the 2016 presidential election after a long and eventful debate season that many in the party thought hurt its chances in 2012.

But the campaigns have been quietly irritated by the rigid process all year and broke into open revolt last week. The RNC responded by suspending NBC from hosting its Feb. 26 event, and it put a new staffer in charge of managing the debates.

RNC spokesman Sean Spicer, who had been overseeing the deliberations before being replaced last week, said he supports Trump and others as they negotiate directly with television executives. “These debates have always been about the candidates,” Spicer said. “The candidates will be and always should be determining the best format for them.”…

My emphasis. Dear ex-bosses: Fvck you very much, you fvcking bunch of fvckers. Luv, S. Spicer.
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So, really, the GOP candidates just unionized and are presenting their contract demands, right?

— OKnox (@OKnox) November 2, 2015

too bad the Scott Walker campaign couldn't get in on the GOP 2016 collective petition for better working conditions

— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) November 2, 2015

IDEA: Apply the Laffer curve to debates. Cut overall time to 90 minutes, and all 14 candidates will get 15 minutes to talk.

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) November 2, 2015

There's something so delicious about the GOP's collective demand for a "safe space" for debates.

— Jamelle Bouie (@jbouie) November 2, 2015

Simon Maloy, at Salon, “Why These Clowns Should Be Laughed Out of the Room“:

… To be clear about what’s going on here: the candidates have precisely zero intention of fostering “substantive” discussion at the debates. The CNBC debate was a travesty largely because the moderators completely lost control of the forum and allowed the candidates to reframe their substantive questions as inappropriate expressions of “liberal bias.” They allowed themselves to be cowed by the bullying of self-interested actors whose chief concerns are protecting their own images and controlling the flow of information. The RNC’s letter to NBC and this list of demands from the candidates are just an escalation of what was already a pretty flagrant attempt at intimidation.

There is no good reason why any media outlet should consent to aid the candidates in executing their public relations strategy. And there is absolutely no justification for ceding any degree of editorial control to the candidates – even if it’s over something as annoying and reviled as “show of hands” questions, you’re still letting a politician dictate how you do journalism, which sets a horrible precedent. Such requests should be squelched as violently as possible. Moderators asking bad questions is a problem, but the solution is not to empower the campaigns to determine which questions are permissible.

If the candidates threaten to boycott, fine, let them. It’s doubtful that many would follow through on that threat given the exposure they’d be sacrificing and the mockery they’d be opening themselves up to. If they do boycott, invite the JV debate participants to take their place. Leave an empty lectern on stage with the name on it. Explain that they declined to attend because they were uncomfortable with certain types of questions that might be asked. The candidates already view the media as the enemy, so the media should be highly reluctant to give them any quarter…

Amazing how campaigns will freak out on RNC but are worried about making Ailes mad. That's power. https://t.co/3J5IfFH3ly

— Gabriel Sherman (@gabrielsherman) November 2, 2015

Debates shouldn't be interviews, they should be about "revealing the differences between candidates" —@RonBrownstein https://t.co/oVTY5gCS5e

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) November 2, 2015

And back to the WaPo, for the closer:

… Most Republican aides who came to Sunday’s conclave were not especially hopeful about finding consensus. Ginsberg, who oversaw the two-hour conversation, also made clear in his remarks to the group that his goal was to give them advice about how to deal with the networks, not necessarily urge them to work together.

Mark Levin, a talk-radio host and author suggested by some Republicans as a possible moderator, told Breitbart News on Monday that the RNC had lost control of the debates. “Reince Priebus should be fired or should resign,” Levin said of the RNC’s chair…

Yeah! Reince and all GOP candidates should only go on Fox News, period. But only the loyal Fox News people!!! https://t.co/Un3BAXVwlY

— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) November 2, 2015

Time for Paul Ryan to step up and moderate all the GOP debates.

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) November 2, 2015

Item: Fiorina floats Glenn Beck as a possible GOP debate moderator. pic.twitter.com/vGL8wlVOXK

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 2, 2015

Glenn Beck, Alex Jones and Karl Rove would be great moderators. https://t.co/aBQ6n9parO

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) November 3, 2015

I can't wait for the Animal Planet debate. "Gov Bush, first question. Well, less a question and more 'there's a bear behind you'"

— OKnox (@OKnox) November 2, 2015

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Los Pollos Hermanos, Con’t

by Zandar|  October 22, 201510:17 am| 78 Comments

This post is in: Cruz-ifiction, Election 2016, Fables Of The Reconstruction, Hail to the Hairpiece, Immigration, Post-racial America, Republican Venality, Assholes, Blatant Liars and the Lies They Tell

Latino Republicans are sick and tired of The Donald and Ted show, and want to put an end to the notions of mass deportation and ending birthright citizenship.

Months since Donald Trump sparked outrage with his comments about Mexican immigrants, about two dozen of the nation’s top Hispanic conservative activists are joining forces to respond and issue a warning to the Republican Party.

The activists plan to meet on Oct. 27 in Boulder, Colo., the day before GOP presidential candidates meet in the same city for a debate hosted by CNBC. Plans for the “unprecedented gathering” have been in the works for several weeks, according to organizers, who shared the details first with The Washington Post.

Attendees will be “the people and organizations the RNC and GOP campaigns count on to engage the Latino electorate,” said Alfonso Aguilar, head of the American Principles Project’s Latino Partnership and a lead organizer of the meeting. “We’ll discuss the tone of the primary, comments about the Hispanic community and some of the immigration proposals that have been made.”

After the meeting, the group plans to hold a news conference to “identify several candidates that will not have our support and who we are certain that if they become the GOP nominee will not get enough Latino voter support to win the general election,” Aguilar said.

The meeting will include representatives of the LIBRE Initiative, a group backed by the billionaire Koch brothers that is building conservative grassroots support among Hispanics. Also in the room will be leaders of the Latino Coalition, a national organization of Hispanic business leaders; the Hispanic Leadership Fund, a conservative group; the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, the nation’s largest Latino evangelical organization that has hosted events with several presidential candidates; and veterans of past GOP campaigns and presidential administrations.

Aguilar said they will focus especially on the comments and proposals of Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) among others. Trump sparked outrage for suggesting in his announcement speech that undocumented immigrants from Mexico are criminals and rapists, while Cruz credited the New York businessman for raising the issue of immigration and refused to condemn the comments.

It’s hysterical (and actually pretty dark) that Latino Republicans actually think they still have any political power whatsoever at the national level, because national Republicans running for President and leading the party in Washington are trying to do everything they can to be as racist as possible in order to get more votes by throwing these same voters under the bus whenever possible.

If you haven’t noticed, it’s working.  Right now a majority of Republican primary voters are perfectly okay with candidates that are massively racist and Islamophobic on top of having a completely ignorant view of even the most basic tenets of civics and government, which makes perfect sense because they match the views of your average Republican primary voter.

I wish all the luck in the world to these folks trying to turn the GOP around and who knows, someday we may have two sane political parties again, but it’s sure as hell not going to happen in 2016, even if you do hitch your wagon to the Koch Brothers gravy train.

If you still have difficulties seeing why “I’m going to deport millions of them” is a winning strategy with the party that you want to belong to, then good luck with that, guys.  You’re gonna need it.

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