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Goddamned Traitors

Impeachable (Open Thread)

by Betty Cracker|  May 25, 201910:22 am| 77 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Election 2016, Foreign Affairs, Goddamned Traitors, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Russiagate, Trump-Russia, Assholes, General Stupidity

I’ve talked myself off the “Trump must be impeached now!” ledge by acknowledging two obvious facts: impeachment is a political instrument, and there aren’t enough House Democrats in favor of it right now to proceed. It was inexcusably naive of me to think of it any other way, of course.

As a political instrument, impeachment can’t realistically have a “moral imperative” attached to it since political acts either result in good or bad outcomes for the party committing them, and that is the measure of their success or failure.

If we’re serious about upholding the rule of law in the executive branch in a post-Trump era, we’ll have to figure out another enforcement avenue. The constitutional remedy has been rendered garbage by partisan extremists in the Republican Party who’ve made it clear where their allegiance lies.

Liz Warren and others who point out that Congress has a constitutional duty to act are correct, and I’m glad they’re saying so. But reality is what it is, and that’s what Nancy Pelosi is dealing with right now.

The political risk Pelosi is trying to avoid is galvanizing Trump’s base through an impeachment process that will inevitably end in “exoneration” in the Senate, no matter what the investigation uncovers. That the Senate Republicans will “exonerate” Trump regardless is a near-universally acknowledged truth.

The argument is whether that should be a factor in a decision to impeach or not. I can see both sides of that argument, but if the ultimate goal is to get rid of Trump as soon as possible, the reality is we have to get people on board for impeachment through investigations, if only to clear the “impeached in the House” hurdle, and that work isn’t complete.

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The case for impeachment on obstruction grounds is clearly laid out in the Mueller Report, which turfed the decision to Congress, only to have a corrupt AG inappropriately take that decision for himself. Many public actions taken by Trump establish obstruction of justice beyond a reasonable doubt, IMO, but that doesn’t matter politically. Everyone already knows he obstructed the investigation at every turn since he did so in public and even on camera, but Republicans don’t care.

Maybe the thing to do is to take a step back and refocus the investigation. Stipulate (publicly!) that Trump obstructed justice but is effectively above the law because the AG and Congressional Republicans are okay with obstruction of justice committed by fellow Republicans, even though many of those self-same Republicans impeached Bill Clinton on that same charge related to a much more trivial matter (clips of 90s-era Lindsey Graham making floor speeches would be helpful in making this case).

Instead of focusing on bad acts committed by Trump in Part II of the Mueller Report, which is what an impeachment for obstruction of justice would be, perhaps the House Democrats could focus instead on the more consequential heart of the investigation in Part I, which concerned a hostile foreign power’s interference in our election.

That national security threat is ongoing, even according to Trump-appointed intel people, who can be brought before Congress to attest to the urgency. After all, the Mueller Report’s official title is “Report on the Investigation into Russian Interference in the 2016 Presidential Election.” We deserve a public airing of the answers contained in that report and an examination of what has been done to address the ongoing threat, which is pretty much nothing because it hurts Trump’s feelings.

So, make the investigation about Russian interference, with Trump and the compromised and convicted felons associated with his 2016 campaign a sidebar to a larger issue. Trump and his corrupt AG are weaponizing intel to punish political enemies under the rubric of conspiring to interfere with an election, absurdly claiming that Democrats conspired with Russia, even though the Mueller Report makes it clear that Russian efforts were laser-focused on electing Trump.

Okay, then. Call their goddamned bluff and hold public hearings on the origins of the Russia investigation and what it uncovered, which wasn’t at all exculpatory for Trump and his minions, as everyone who’s actually read the report (maybe 5% of Americans, if that) knows.

Trump will whine about “do overs” and “no obstruction” and “no collusion” because he’s successfully made it all about himself. His argument is easier to make to low-info voters if the investigation is focused on Trump’s obstruction of justice.

But the Mueller Report is not and it never was all about Trump, and to manage the risks associated with an impeachment inquiry, perhaps we need to flip that script. When Trump objects to the House investigating Russia’s role in electing Trump and its ongoing actions, ask why he’s opposed to securing our elections against future foreign interference. Frame it as a dire national security threat — which has the advantage of being true — and dare Trump to publicly get in the way of addressing it.

Maybe that’s the path forward.

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Russiagate Horrorshow Open Thread: Salesman Trump Checks In with Home Office

by Anne Laurie|  May 3, 20199:57 pm| 94 Comments

This post is in: Dolt 45, Foreign Affairs, Goddamned Traitors, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Russiagate, Warren for President 2020, All Too Normal

REPORTER: “Mr. President, did you tell [Putin] not to meddle in the next election?”
TRUMP: “We had a good conversation about many different things, ‘k?”
REPORTER: “Did you tell him not to meddle in the next election?”
TRUMP: “We didn't discuss that.” pic.twitter.com/OmHkFyakU4

— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) May 3, 2019

Mueller is really getting to the Squatter-in-Chief; Trump can’t be arsed any longer to even pretend he isn’t taking orders directly from Putin. And — let it never be forgotten — the entire GOP is just fine with that!

Kudos to the always persistent @kwelkernbc for not backing down and eventually getting her question answered. https://t.co/55EvKlIqaE

— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) May 3, 2019

Kristin Welker…and yes to both.

— BronxSaint (@tiger150) May 3, 2019

By the way, according to the Kremlin, the phone call was Trump's idea. https://t.co/fGn1vexCp1

— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) May 3, 2019

He cold called Putin to complain about the investigation.

I, and I can't stress this enough, mean…. https://t.co/pv1JkHTsQE

— Zeddediah Springfield (@Zeddary) May 3, 2019

Do you think Donald Trump disagreed even once with Vladimir Putin during their hour-long phone call this morning?

— Mig Greengard (@chessninja) May 3, 2019

Readout of Trump/Putin call:
Barr's got your back.
What do we do about Biden?
Can you help me with Biden?
You must have something on Biden, right?

— Schooley (@Rschooley) May 3, 2019

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Were they FaceTiming?

(Serious question.) https://t.co/k22LBr49Wd

— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) May 3, 2019

Per pool: "Yes, Trump did say that when he talked to Putin about the Mueller report and Russian meddling, Putin 'sort of smiled' before he called it 'a mountain' that 'ended up being a mouse.'"

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) May 3, 2019

Wow. The President of the United States just confirmed that he directly informed Vladimir Putin that he is not accepting the Mueller report's conclusion that Russia interfered in our 2016 election in "sweeping and systematic" fashion.

That seems problematic. https://t.co/QDxJxwwNJP

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) May 3, 2019

Robert Mueller provided an 150-page account of Russian interference in our election.

Donald J. Trump is a traitor to his country. https://t.co/H3E3Jwo9Wv

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) May 4, 2019

A hostile foreign power attacked our democracy. The president welcomed that attack, obstructed the investigation into it, & is now cozying up with the leader who orchestrated it. Congress needs to do its job, stand up for our national security, and begin impeachment proceedings. pic.twitter.com/Uak15qiymi

— Elizabeth Warren (@ewarren) May 3, 2019

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Muellergate Open Thread: All the President’s Minions

by Anne Laurie|  April 21, 201912:02 pm| 242 Comments

This post is in: Dolt 45, domestic terrorists, Goddamned Traitors, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Russiagate, Trump Crime Cartel, Assholes, I'm Too Big To Cry/Hurts Too Much To Laugh

It's not exactly poignant but it's really striking the way that, except for a handful of devoted dimwit lifers, everyone in Trump's actual orbit plainly holds him in the lowest possible regard.

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) April 18, 2019

At least the Nixon people put a little effort into it.

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) April 17, 2019

So, as it happens, Dave Roth’s done another fine pigbladdering of a most deserving target…

One of the most common misunderstandings about Dumb Guys is that they are not capable of doing things. This is false. They can and in fact absolutely love to do complicated-sounding things like scheme and intrigue. They may not do those things well, and will generally do them in arbitrary and ineffective ways. But they will attack the work of scheming and maneuvering and infighting with all the vigor of a dog trying to carry a too-big tree branch through a doorway…

… It is a common Dumb Guy trait to stop assimilating new information at some moment of great personal success; there is no reason to think that Jon Gruden believes the NFL is any different than it was when he won a Super Bowl in it during George W. Bush’s first term.

The problem is that all that intrigue creates its own sort of paranoid gravity. The Dumb Guy believes that the moment he stops scheming is the moment that he becomes vulnerable, and so must throw himself into constant counter-intrigue and intrigue-maintenance and general amphetamized vigilance. And that, according to Ian Rapoport, is where the Raiders stand today, after Mayock and Gruden sent home the team’s entire scouting department because they “don’t know who to trust.”…

Yeah, not exactly about Our Political Moment. But it certainly could be!

Because if there is one common denominator to the collection of grifters, racists, willing traitors, overconfident scions and all-purpose villains that compose the Oval Office Squatters Squad, it is that they are every one a Dumb Guy, revolving around the Dumb Guy in Chief.

don jr: too stupid to understand when he's doing crimes pic.twitter.com/gzzmFOb8S9

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) April 18, 2019

Can't stress this enough: the Russians set up a troll account made to look like an particularly racist, Klan-friendly state chapter of the GOP. The confirmation bias conspiracy fantasies it was selling were so popular it got mindlessly retweeted by near everyone in Trump's circle https://t.co/FELvVRyvAl

— Zeddediah Springfield (@Zeddary) April 18, 2019

they had to have been fucking AGHAST at how successful it was.

TROLL #1: I post frog in SS uniform telling old Goebbels line about jews but replace jew with the word Syrian

TROLL #2: try harder that's not going to trick Ameri-

TROLL #1: Trump Jr just retweet with 'so much dis'

— Zeddediah Springfield (@Zeddary) April 18, 2019

Guys I am not optimistic that Jared Kushner is going to deliver on that whole peace in the Middle East thing. pic.twitter.com/zyaLBkEKX3

— Jim Swift (@JimSwiftDC) April 18, 2019

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Oh look Ivanka pic.twitter.com/Hy1EL2rcWw

— Michelle Goldberg (@michelleinbklyn) April 18, 2019

Mueller report, Vol. I, p. 156

"Bannon told the [Special Counsel] that… he regularly used his personal Blackberry and personal email for work-related communications… and he took no steps to preserve those work communications."

— Tim Mak (@timkmak) April 18, 2019

Reminder: During the period when he was using his personal BB sending deletable texts to Erik Prince about his ties to Kirill Dmitriev, Bannon was a member of the National Security Council. #ButHerEmails pic.twitter.com/hAu1LG3aNr

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) April 19, 2019

Good lord. pic.twitter.com/JMi3WaCVjp

— Jacob T. Levy (@jtlevy) April 18, 2019

The President tried to get one of his personal goons, who has never had any position in the admin, to convince the Attorney General to drop an investigation into foreign spies and hackers. Not himself or his lackeys, he was explicitly trying to quash a case against Russians. https://t.co/Th9n4xL0g1

— Zeddediah Springfield (@Zeddary) April 19, 2019

That moment when you realize that Corey Lewandowski showed better judgment than the president of the United States and you retreat into a fetal position.

— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) April 19, 2019

GIULIANI: "You want me to make a moral judgement about it?… if we can impeach based on moral judgments, everybody in the US Congress would have to get impeached." pic.twitter.com/92IrbnphnS

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 19, 2019

Not to mention Attorney “Cover-Up” General William Barr, who deserves a post (and a level in Dante’s inferno) all his own!

Lol, William Barr ends the presser getting pissed off and saying that he didn't have to release the report at all.

I mean… I know this is all deeply serious, but, this small man is all "BIG MAD" by people asking him to be better than he is.

— Elie Mystal (@ElieNYC) April 18, 2019


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Well, there might be one possible exception…

Conway is a lot of things, but she's no dummy, she's been carefully insulating herself from this shitshow from day one. https://t.co/O7lPOfCJGK

— Tormund XtopHodor, First of His Name (@tommyxtopher) April 20, 2019

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Cold Grey Pre-Dawn Open Thread: He’s Decompensating, and None of His GOP Fellows Cares

by Anne Laurie|  April 3, 20194:31 am| 69 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Dolt 45, Goddamned Traitors, Open Threads, Republican Venality, All Too Normal, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

Watergate is the story our country tells itself in order to live. Iran-Contra is the story that, staring us in the face, we refuse to tell.

— Zach Dorfman (@zachsdorfman) April 1, 2019

If you weren’t paying attention during Reagan’s second term, take my word: The old man was visibly falling to pieces, week by week. But unlike the current Oval Office Occupant, Ronnie at least had a wife who cared enough to fight for him, and a moderately competent bunch of advisors alert to the possibility that they themselves might be held accountable some day.

Today’s Repubs haven’t got even that rudimentary sense of self preservation — they’re just grabbing everything they can steal before the whole rotten Potemkin village falls apart.

"Someone's going to leak this whole damn speech to the media," Trump tells NRCC in a speech that is being broadcast live by C-SPAN.

— John Fritze (@jfritze) April 3, 2019

Trump says he called Chinese President Xi Jinping "king." Xi responded that he's president, not king, per Trump. "I say, 'No, you're president for life, so therefore, you're king.'" He says Xi eventually said that he liked that.

— Felicia Sonmez (@feliciasonmez) April 2, 2019

At same NRCC dinner, Trump says of wind farms: “They say the noise causes cancer.”

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) April 3, 2019

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It’s just totally weird that the president casually suggest that the noise from wind farms could cause cancer and NO ONE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN 24 HOURS!

— Sam Stein (@samstein) April 3, 2019

We joke about Trump's cognitive state the way a smoker jokes about cancer.

— Schooley (@Rschooley) April 3, 2019

Wow — Trump repeatedly mangles the word "origins," on three separate occasions saying "oranges" instead. ? pic.twitter.com/EZggYhIAO7

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) April 2, 2019

I finally watched this – that is not a joke is it – I mean, that very literally looks like he's having a stroke.

— Jonathan Tisdall (@mandoran) April 2, 2019

.@BarackObama you seein' this shit https://t.co/kveZ03qDsl

— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) April 2, 2019

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Brexit: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

by Betty Cracker|  March 14, 20191:43 pm| 94 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Goddamned Traitors, Open Threads, Politics, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, General Stupidity

It’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good, and just as the hideous Trump catastrophuck here in the States has rejuvenated the Democratic Party and spun comedy gold on late night TV, the rolling Brexit disaster has resulted in some damn funny professional commentary, as several jackals have pointed out in comments. Here’s a sample inspired by May’s Parliament debacle earlier this week:

The House of Commons was a Benny Hill chase on acid, running through a Salvador Dali painting in a spaceship on its way to infinity.

It was a kind of death-defying, window-shattering, epoch-shaping, never-to-be-surpassed lunacy.

The details are extravagantly complex, and if you can’t face them all, the key bit to remember is that Theresa May planned to defeat herself, then decided not to defeat herself by defeating herself, then lost. To herself.

— Tom Peck, The Independent

And this:

By now, you will be aware that the prime minister failed to end her meaningful vote hoodoo, with this sequel to her last attempt – 2Meaningful 2Vote – knocked down by a margin of 149. Amusingly, some are suggesting that Meaningful Vote: Tokyo Drift could yet happen. A free vote on no deal takes place tonight, with potential amendments piling up. May herself ploughs on. It’s as if someone has popped a grey wig on Munch’s The Scream, then cast it in an ITV drama about the female governor of a category-A prison.

— Marina Hyde, The Guardian

I read those last two sentences aloud to my husband and could barely choke the words out for giggling. Also from that column, what appears to be an actual quote from “Conservative backbencher” Steve Double:

“This is a turd of a deal,” he intoned to the House of Commons, “which has now been taken away and polished, and is now a polished turd. But it might be the best turd that we’ve got.”

Speaking of turds that are far from our best, America’s ambulatory ocher dung heap weighed in:

“I don’t think another vote would be possible because it would be very unfair to the people that won. They’d say ‘What do you mean, you’re going to take another vote?’ So that would be tough.

I thought it would happen, it did happen, and both sides are very, very cemented in. It’s a tough situation. It’s a shame.

There was no reason for that to happen. They could have had the vote and it should have gone smoothly and unfortunately it didn’t.”

The Guardian notes that “[i]n opposing a second referendum Trump lines up with the Russian president, Vladimir Putin.”

Of course he does — the wily KGB man inserted his murderous claw up his puppet’s ass at some point between 1985 and 2016 and has used his pincers to move Trump’s lips ever since.

But the second part of Trump’s statement was pure Shitgibbon, once again invoking the now thoroughly exploded myth of himself as a master deal maker, failing as ever to comprehend anything more complex than “I want to eat/fuck/buy that,” and rudely shitting all over anyone with the temerity to behave as something other than a Trump flunky, no matter how inanely:

I’m surprised at how badly it’s all gone from the standpoint of a negotiation. I gave the prime minister my ideas on how to negotiate it and I think you would have been successful. She didn’t listen to that and that’s fine – she’s got to do what she’s got to do. I think it could have been negotiated in a different manner, frankly. I hate to see everything being ripped apart now.

I long for the day we get to see all these ugly turds take their final spin around the toilet bowl and then the fateful plunge straight down the sewer pipe. If the commentary and comedy are less biting after that happy day, we’ll muddle through somehow.

Open thread!

PS: I was going to Photoshop Theresa May’s hair onto an image of “The Scream” as an illustration for this post, but I recently switched computers, and my motherfucking Creative Cloud download keeps failing because Sweet Jeebus, Adobe sucks greasy green gator balls!

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Pelosi: Trump’s not worth impeaching

by Betty Cracker|  March 11, 20194:53 pm| 208 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Goddamned Traitors, Open Threads, Politics, Trump Crime Cartel, Our Failed Media Experiment

WaPo Mag just published an interview with Speaker Pelosi. Here’s one snippet that is sure to get a lot of attention:

There have been increasing calls, including from some of your members, for impeachment of the president.

I’m not for impeachment. This is news. I’m going to give you some news right now because I haven’t said this to any press person before. But since you asked, and I’ve been thinking about this: Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.

IIRC, Pelosi had said before that it didn’t make sense to talk about impeachment until the Mueller report comes out. What changed, if anything? Does she know something about the Mueller report, such as that it is going to be withheld from the public or that it doesn’t contain enough clear-cut evidence of the Trump campaign’s conspiracy with Russia to make a convincing case for impeachment?

Is she just facing the political reality that the GOP will carry Trump’s water no matter what the report says? Are the obstructions of justice that have taken place in public just not worth the hassle since the Republicans will never put country before party?

Many Democrats who know that to be true still believe that impeachment proceedings are valuable because the hearings would dominate news coverage and ensure that even folks who don’t follow politics hear the allegations of misconduct and evidence that supports it. There’s some merit to that argument, but taking impeachment off the table (with the caveats Pelosi expressed) doesn’t put a halt to Congressional investigations in any case.

Pelosi is an incredibly skilled politician. Maybe this is how she preempts Republican talking points about “overturning an election” and the metastasizing media narrative about “Democratic overreach” — all without actually changing anything. The hearings will continue, Trump’s corruption and obstruction will be exposed (albeit in a less blockbuster setting), but Trump and his enablers’ whining about impeachment will sound like, well, whining since the Speaker said Trump isn’t worth impeaching.

FWIW, Mayor Pete Buttigieg had a similar take on impeaching Trump during yesterday’s CNN town hall. Here’s the YouTube of the whole thing, which is well worth watching in its entirety — he’s an incredibly impressive candidate, IMO. His comments on impeaching Trump are at about the 33:00 mark.

Buttigieg says, “I would like to see this president and the style of politics he represents sent off through the electoral process — decisively defeated at the ballot box.”

I get that. But losing an election, even in a landslide (which likely won’t happen due to polarization) isn’t enough of a rebuke considering the gravity of Trump’s conduct. He’ll have lowered the bar permanently. What say you?

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Other felony news (NC-09 edition)

by David Anderson|  February 27, 20192:31 pm| 80 Comments

This post is in: Criminal Justice, Election 2018, Goddamned Traitors, Grifters Gonna Grift, Assholes, Blatant Liars and the Lies They Tell, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?, Good News For Conservatives

BREAKING: McCrae Dowless has been indicted on three counts of felonious obstruction of justice, two counts of conspiracy to commit obstruction of justice and two counts of possession of absentee ballot #NC09 #ncpol @wsoctv pic.twitter.com/YytCpi9Av1

— Joe Bruno (@JoeBrunoWSOC9) February 27, 2019

He is not the only one being charged. From the Raleigh News and Observer:

Four other people — Caitlyn E. Croom, Matthew Monroe Mathis, Tonia Gordon and Rebecca Thompson — also face charges related to absentee ballot collection in Bladen County over the past two elections, Freeman said.

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