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Bernie Sanders 2016

After-Bern

by Betty Cracker|  June 6, 201610:04 am| 403 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Hillary Clinton 2016, Politics

After thumping Senator Bernie Sanders in Puerto Rico yesterday, Hillary Clinton is just 25 delegates shy of the prize, with delegate-rich New Jersey and California voting tomorrow. That means that after polls close in New Jersey at 8 p.m. Eastern time tomorrow, the networks will likely tell us that Hillary Clinton has amassed enough delegates to become the Democratic Party’s candidate for president.

It won’t be official until the convention, of course. But the primaries will be effectively over tomorrow — even for the folks who’ve been basking for weeks on the sunny banks of De Nial. The only remaining drama will be what Sanders chooses to do when confronted with the latest inescapable math. The signs have not been encouraging. But there’s still time for Sanders to do the right thing.

And that matters to me, not because I give a crap about Sanders’ future in the Democratic Party or believe that we’ll need the Bernie-or-Busters onboard to defeat Trump. The political fate of a single senator doesn’t much interest me, and I am convinced that the vast majority of Sanders voters will be with us this fall, consigning the Busted to the irrelevancy that was the well-deserved fate of their PUMA predecessors.

But I do care about mainstreaming some of the ideas Sanders brought to the table. I’d like to see “democratic socialism” become as acceptable a political concept to Americans as the much less reputable “evangelical conservatism” already is. I’d rather us take a more evenhanded approach to the Israeli-Palestinian question. I’m for getting PACs and corporations out of politics.

Even though he will not be the nominee, Sanders has succeeded in his original aim: He got his issues front and center and demonstrated that a candidate can credibly compete without big money donors. It will be a damned shame — and a setback for the party — if he undercuts those accomplishments with a pointless nomination fight.

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Thursday Morning Open Thread: Jeff Weaver vs. Political Reality

by Anne Laurie|  June 2, 20164:39 am| 171 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, C.R.E.A.M., Election 2016, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

It is one of the small proud moments of my life that I actually got to vote for Barney Frank, once. “Why the chip, Jeff?”

But Chris Matthews, bless his heart, also acquitted himself nicely, this once. My transcript, of the final few minutes:

Matthews: You just said that Trump is hiding something, by not releasing his tax returns. What is your candidate hiding?

Weaver: I — my — my candidate is not hiding anything.

Matthews: But then why doesn’t he release his tax returns?

Weaver: He has released some —

Matthews: He’s released one year, of fourteen, that’s it.

Weaver: — and he has House and Senate ethics reports —

Matthews: Yeah, but why doesn’t he release his tax returns? You just said, a minute ago, that a politician is running for President, that doesn’t release his tax returns, has something to hide —

Weaver:
But that’s Donald Trump! You asked about Donald Trump, Chris!

Matthews: I asked you, why wouldn’t a politician release his tax returns…

Weaver: That’s not a hypothetical, you said why isn’t Donald Trump revealing his tax returns?!?

Matthews: Okay, fine. You said that Donald Trump would not release his tax returns because he was obviously trying to hide something. What is Senator Sanders hiding?

Weaver: He’s hiding nothing. And I think — if you talk to anybody in the media — who saw those tax returns in 2014 — everybody who thought there was gonna be some big thing in there, and you know what? Zero!

Matthews: I’m just asking the question, live question, right now: You just went after Trump, for not releasing his returns. Why doesn’t your guy do it?

Weaver: Yes, and that — because Trump is a flim-flam artist, and a fraud! We’ve seen that, in his university, and —

Matthews: Why don’t you address yourself to the question I just asked? Why doesn’t your guy release the returns? Give me an answer!

Weaver: Well, he will.

Matthews: Oh, he will?

Weaver: Sure! He said he will!

Matthews:
Senator Sanders will release his returns during the course of this campaign?

Weaver:
He said he will…

Matthews: Before the convention.

Weaver: He said he would, yeah.

Matthews: Well, can you give me a date?

Weaver: I’ll be happy to get you a date, Chris…

Gotta tell ya, IMO, Comic Book Guy does not cover himself with glory in this exchange. Even though I could swear I’ve seen very very similar crossed-sword exchanges in many, many superhero comic books, back in the day. And Weaver’s not playing the ‘superhero’ side here, either.
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Apart from the usual comix-al overdramatics, what’s on the agenda for the day?

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Late Night Cranky Open Thread: Bernie Sanders Finds Bernie Sanders A Man of Many Talents

by Anne Laurie|  June 1, 201610:20 pm| 308 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, I Can No Longer Rationally Discuss The Sanders Campaign, Open Threads

Bernie's answer to GOP opposition if he were POTUS is more Bernie rallies. Really. https://t.co/bZxQGbqwzt

— Martha Jackovics (@BeachPeanuts) May 31, 2016

I can call spirits from the vasty deep. —
Why, so can I, and so can any man; but will they come, when you do call for them?

Public figures are commonly warned against believing their own press releases. Senator Sanders seems to have gone beyond mere belief, to discover in the Bernie Sanders described by his supporters one hell of an amazing fella, capable of feats no mortal politician could claim. He will quell the rebellious Repubs by the might of his loyalist mill-yuns, and accomplish historic progress by the sheer genius of his executive orders. From the Rolling Stone interview:

…To put it in terms that you were talking about tonight at the rally, I think the critique is not blaming Bernie Sanders for thinking too big, but critiquing Bernie Sanders for sweeping the “unpleasant truths” of our political system right now – the way it ties everything up in knots – “under the rug.” Many people say you’re right as rain on the policy and the objectives, but “Boy, I just don’t think he can do it.”
Yes …

So how do you do it? What are the specifics that allow you to—

What are the specifics about how I, personally, all by myself, do what nobody in American history has done? And I’m being criticized? Why don’t you do it? Why doesn’t the editor of Rolling Stone do it? Look. You know. With all due respect, that’s an absurd question.

Hopefully, we will end up winning the nomination and winning the general election. If we don’t do that, which is certainly a possibility, we will have accomplished an enormous amount. Could we have done better? Could I do better? Of course. I’m not quite sure what the—

The question is: Assuming you’re president and you’re dealing with a Congress that looks like the one we have today…
Let me just comment on that. If I am elected president, the odds of the Senate remaining Republican would be minimal. You’d have very large turnout helping Democrats up and down the line.

But you’d still likely face Paul Ryan as your negotiating partner. And I’m trying to figure out how you get something like public-college-for-all passed with Paul Ryan as your counterpart. Given that you just said today that they won’t play ball.
To answer that question successfully requires us to think outside of a zero-sum game. You’re saying to me, and it’s a fair question: “Bernie, if you sit down with Paul Ryan and say, ‘Paul, I want a tax on Wall Street speculation to make public colleges and universities tuition-free and to lower student debt,’ the likelihood is that Paul won’t say, ‘Hey, Bernie, why didn’t I think of that? Fantastic idea! Let’s go forward together.'” So what’s the strategy? The strategy – which is unprecedented, and this is where we’re talking about thinking outside the box – is to have a president who actually, vigorously goes around the country and rallies the American people, who are in favor of this idea. This is not some sort of fringe idea. The American people want it. And [the president] rallies the American people and makes it clear that people in the Republican Party – or Democratic Party – who are not sympathetic will pay a political price. That changes the dynamics.

Everything that I campaign on – they’re not fringe ideas. They’re not radical ideas. They’re ideas that the American people support. What we’ve got to do now is close the gap that currently exists between the American people over here [gestures to one side of the table], who have needs and goals and desires, and a Congress [gestures to other side], which in almost every instance is ignoring what the American people want…

Because, of course, we have no recent Democratic presidents — for example, the man now occupying that position — who were willing or able to “actually, vigorously go around the country and rally the American people, who are in favor of this idea.” Only a superior political intellect like Bernie Sanders could have imagined so powerful and lambent a tactic! One part Bully Pulpit, two parts Green Lantern…

Matt Yglesias, at Vox, has convinced himself that “Bernie Sanders will drop out and endorse Hillary Clinton soon”…

… While Sanders’s hypothetical campaign would be premised on the idea of winning superdelegates over to his side, the reality is that after California and New Jersey vote, the opposite is going to happen… [T]he small number of Sanders supporters who are also elected officials — most important among them Reps. Keith Ellison and Raúl Grijalva and Sen. Jeff Merkley — will abandon him on the same grounds. They’ll say the campaign accomplished a lot and proved people-powered politics is the wave of the future, but Clinton won fair and square and now it’s time to unite for a higher minimum wage, making the rich pay their fair share, comprehensive immigration reform, and all the rest.

At the same time as the more establishment-oriented wing of the Sanders movement abandons him in favor of Clinton, the more radical wing will also abandon him. Sanders’s core voting base in the primary has come from young people who probably didn’t participate in the 2000 campaign. But several of Sanders’s more prominent surrogates — people like Cornel West and Susan Sarandon — are longtime critics of the Democratic Party who backed Ralph Nader back then…

At the end of the day, Sanders is a Democrat
Decades ago, when America’s political parties were less polarized and when Sanders was more invested in anti-anti-communism as a foreign policy, Sanders was truly a political independent. He won a tough third-party campaign to be elected mayor of Burlington, and he tangled with Democrats on the city council early in his term…

But once in Congress, Sanders settled into a comfortable modus vivendi with the formal Democratic Party. He caucused with the Democrats for the purpose of obtaining committee seats and seniority, and Democrats stopped running candidates against him. In 2006, when a Senate seat opened up in Vermont, the party’s national leaders — everyone from Nancy Pelosi to Chuck Schumer — cleared the field for him so he could win the Democratic nomination unopposed. Having won it, he then officially declined it in order to run as an independent in a race with no Democratic nominee…

I read this history and see an opposite future: Sanders was happy to accept all the benefits of being a Democrat, and even to cast his very precious extremely independent vote with that less-elite gang, as long as he wasn’t required to lower himself to the grubby moil of vote-trading and donor-coddling. But if the benighted Establishment Democrats are not willing, at this shining moment, to acknowledge his singularity and step aside for his nomination… he will NOT BE IGNORED.

Frankly — and I hope he makes a liar out of me — at this moment, I’m predicting a future for Senator Sanders as the Joe Lieberman of a new generation. Come 2019, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him on Pete Peterson’s payroll, in the latest incarnation of #NoLabels “sensible centrism”, decrying the coarse anti-American partisanship of the party in power… especially if (goddess please make it so) that should be the Democratic party.

Supplementary sniping below the fold…

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Does Sanders think that his winning coalition lies outside of the 52% currently approving of Obama?

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) June 1, 2016

@BeachPeanuts He has had 30+ years to think up a plan yet here we are pic.twitter.com/Tr1aYcQBl2

— Yuge Ass Tortoise (@Tyler_Tortoise) May 31, 2016

.@BernieSanders is not feeling very introspective these days. https://t.co/mMThFRIc6o pic.twitter.com/3Qk2TwV1Dk

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) May 31, 2016

Bernie thinks talking to 16,000 people who are already voting for him constitutes almost the entirety of campaigning https://t.co/fTgWLVYn6X

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) May 31, 2016

Worse, he thinks raising the cash needed to keep Trump from making SCOTUS nominations isn't a worthwhile endeavor. https://t.co/QB6awj6vec

— Presumptive Nominee (@HalloweenBlogs) May 31, 2016

I do think that we can fulfill the legacy of presidents F.D.R., Truman, and L.B.J. and guarantee health care for all people as a right.

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) June 1, 2016

This tweet was 135 characters. “Obama” is 5 characters … you could have fit it. #PreExistingConditions #ACA #srsly https://t.co/I27DOkTuqh

— Candice Dayoan (@candicecd) June 1, 2016

@fsfwannabe @DanaHoule Bernie only venerates FDR, Truman & LBJ because they are dead and can't endorse Hillary Clinton.

— Michael Lampers (@LampersMichael) June 1, 2016

It's not that I disagree with Bernie's stump speech but once you've seen Gallagher smash enough watermelons, you're ready for something new.

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) June 1, 2016

"How Bernie Sanders Made Himself Irrelevant."https://t.co/r7CP1InVUA pic.twitter.com/o5IeBuvy9G

— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) June 1, 2016

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Open Thread: Meanwhile, At the Dem Intramurals…

by Anne Laurie|  May 31, 20163:04 am| 56 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, I Can No Longer Rationally Discuss The Sanders Campaign, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

Carrot:

Despite public defiance, Bernie told top Ds he expects convention process to be legit: https://t.co/EGTg8aHBBj pic.twitter.com/fQKPT5urQG

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) May 29, 2016

That was the day after the Washington Post reported:

The relationship between the Democratic National Committee and Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.) grew more heated Saturday after the DNC rejected his campaign’s request for the removal of the co-chairs of the standing committee on rules.

In a letter sent Friday, the Sanders campaign labeled the committee co-chairs, former congressman Barney Frank (Mass.) and Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy, as “aggressive attack surrogates” for the Clinton campaign, whose criticism had “gone beyond dispassionate ideological disagreement and have exposed a deeper professional, political and personal hostility toward the senator and his campaign.”…

“In a March interview, Mr. Frank defamed Senator Sanders as ‘outrageously McCarthyite,’” Sanders campaign counsel Brad Deutsch wrote in the letter to the DNC. “Malloy has even ventured that Senator Sanders should be ‘held accountable’ for the ‘death and destruction’ cause by his ‘mistake.’”

The DNC responded in less than 24 hours, mentioning none of the ad hominem criticisms that Malloy or Frank had made. Instead, Jim Roosevelt and Lorraine Miller, co-chairs of the Rules and Bylaws committee, said that the Call for the 2016 Democratic National Convention had duly elected Frank and Malloy in January.

“Your challenge does not allege that there was any violation of the provisions of the Call in the conduct of their elections,” they wrote. “Having carefully reviewed your challenge, we find that it fails to meet the criteria.”…

“The way he’s been acting now is a demonstration of why he’s had no support from his colleagues,” Frank told The Washington Post this month. “The problem that most committed liberals have had with Sen. Sanders is that we don’t think his approach is effective. It’s a self-righteous view that if you just say something loudly enough, you win.”

Malloy, who beat the 2010 Republican tide to win a close election, was long seen as a progressive experimenter. While Republican-run states cut back on benefits and public employees, Malloy raised taxes, presenting Connecticut as a laboratory of democracy to contrast with Kansas or Texas. This year, however, Malloy’s approval ratings cratered as he proposed a compromise, cost-cutting budget to close the state’s deficit…

idea that Barney Frank is too hostile to progressive politics for Democratic platform committee is pretty funny

— John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) May 28, 2016


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Stick:

@SpryGuy @FactCheckBernie @P2 I liked it too!!! pic.twitter.com/8fWAMcHtiB

— Diane Dinnigan (@DianeDinnigan) May 29, 2016

Give the man this, he has an unshakeable conviction of his own worth…

Sanders doesn't rule out being Clinton's VP https://t.co/Z60mGbjeYZ pic.twitter.com/ta283ZbScM

— The Hill (@thehill) May 30, 2016

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Late-Night Internet Chew Toy: The MAKE AMERICA GRATE Debate

by Anne Laurie|  May 27, 20164:32 am| 87 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Open Threads, OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUDS

We want #BernieTrumpDebate. Sign this petition to help make it happen.https://t.co/gbe8Ypkh5O pic.twitter.com/ZQ021xSuHI

— Millennials 4 Bernie (@Bernlennials) May 26, 2016

Okay, yeah, this is almost certainly not gonna happen. (In any other election year, I’d bet on ‘certainly not’, but this is not like any other year.) But the mere suggestion has brought so much joy to media spokesmodels with a phobia for dead air, not to mention internet snarksters…

Sanders spox not treating Trump debate like a joke. “He takes Trump at his word… details to be worked out."

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) May 26, 2016

The professionals at the Washington Post, company paper for the town whose majority industry is politics, spell out the scam:

… Trump said in a press conference here that he would debate Sanders only if $10 million to $15 million went to a charity, perhaps one specializing in “women’s health issues.” It’s assumed that the bulk of that money would have to come from a television network. No network immediately stepped forward to claim interest on Thursday…

“We could have a lot of fun with it,” Trump said. “I would love to debate Bernie, actually. I mean the problem with debating Bernie is he’s going to lose [the nomination] because, honestly, his system is rigged just like our system is rigged.”

At an afternoon rally in Ventura, Calif., Sanders said he would “look forward” to challenging Trump on issues ranging from climate change to the Republican’s insults of Latinos, Muslims and women.

“I think we’re going to have to rent out the largest stadium you have here in California,” Sanders said of a theoretical debate. “I can’t wait for that, because we’re going to ask Mr. Trump why he thinks giving hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the wealthiest people in this country is a good idea.”

In an interview with ABC News, Clinton said she had taken the whole suggestion — first made by Sanders earlier in the week — as a joke. The former secretary of state, who is expected to clinch the nomination in California, said she is looking ahead to her own debates with Trump in the fall…

But THEN, out of the YouTube’d heart of the internet, a new hope…

The Young Turks has reached out to @BernieSanders and @realDonaldTrump camps and offered to host a cross-partisan debate in California!

— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) May 25, 2016

Politico loves that twist:

… “It would be among the most watched debates in the world,” touted Uygur. “It would be a clash of the titans in terms of ideology from the right and the left without the establishment in the middle.”

Uygur told POLITICO that The Young Turks, a left-leaning online video news channel that boasts more than 200 million views a month on YouTube, would be the perfect setting for such a meeting.

“They’re outsiders. We’re outsiders. They both complain about the establishment. We’re against the establishment,” he explained. “There is no better place for two anti-establishment figures on the right and the left to debate than The Young Turks. Our whole bread and butter is fighting against the establishment.”…

We're all in. @TheYoungTurks will give $1 million to charity if @realDonaldTrump and @BernieSanders debate on TYT before CA primary.

— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) May 26, 2016

It will come as a surprise to many observers if the Young Turks actually have a spare million dollars lying around, but hey, that’s what GoFundMe is for, right?

Deadbeat Donald, of course, has already made bank on free media from this stunt, even though in pure political terms he has less than no reason to share any of it with St. Bernie. And Sanders’ closest advisors are showing their usual gift for saying all the wrong things on camera…

Weaver on MSNBC says there are back-channel discussions w/ Trump campaign about debate but not w/ Clinton campaign about party unity.

— Chris Golden (@chrisgolden) May 26, 2016

Sanders begins Ventura rally by saying Trump has agreed to debate him. Still not joking! Even if Trump is!

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) May 26, 2016

Much more below the fold, for the evil-minded curious.

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true detective season 3 looks weird https://t.co/CiwbzzTnKx

— Alexandra Petri (@petridishes) May 26, 2016

What this country really needs to get it on track is a debate by two old white guys about its future. (said no one ever)

— Yair Rosenberg (@Yair_Rosenberg) May 26, 2016

I would encourage you to invite all national candidates including me & @GovGaryJohnson, @cenkuygur. @BernieSanders @realDonaldTrump

— Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) May 25, 2016

“Hello, & welcome. I’m Howard Stern, & I will be moderating tonight’s debate between Donald Trump & Bernie Sanders…”

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) May 26, 2016

Maybe they could call it a… pageant? Donald likes those. The Mr. Universe – Berning Man Pageant. https://t.co/5PZORfsWL6

— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) May 26, 2016

@AlGiordano @vivigold197 can't wait to get me some more mansplaining.

— Iris L (@IrisL49) May 26, 2016

Other competition segments of the Mr. DudeBroniverse Pageant: chair tossing, gaslighting and best voicemail threats. https://t.co/RBzQ9TPmLW

— Volguus Zildrohar (@eclecticbrotha) May 26, 2016

@eclecticbrotha "Ohhh, sorrry, points off for actually threatening to kill someone instead of just hoping someone is killed."

— Peg (@IowaPeg) May 26, 2016

Hey @realDonaldTrump & @BernieSanders, do you stand for America knowing all options? Include me & @GovGaryJohnson in the #BernieTrumpDebate

— Dr. Jill Stein (@DrJillStein) May 26, 2016

It's going to be funny when this debate happens, Sanders walks on stage, and then Trump sends on Newt Gingrich as his surrogate.

— Yair Rosenberg (@Yair_Rosenberg) May 26, 2016

Sanders is now sitting by the phone waiting for Trump to call, just like he did with the Pope. He's humiliating himself. Again.

— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) May 26, 2016

@AlGiordano @LeChatNoire4 lol there will never be a debate.

— Armando (@armandodkos) May 26, 2016

That's what I'm saying. The making Bernie grovel to him and then not giving him the debate has more value for Trump. https://t.co/GGYWrjtCvf

— Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) May 26, 2016

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Late Night Clown Shoes Open Thread: Yeah, That’ll Happen

by Anne Laurie|  May 22, 20161:13 am| 68 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Clown Shoes, OLD MAN YELLS AT CLOUDS

Clinton has decided to skip the last scheduled debate. We want Sanders to have an opponent…so let's invite Trump. #SandersTrumpDebate

— Brooks Travis (@brookstravis) May 20, 2016

This is actually a very good idea. For one thing, could demonstrate important differences btw left & right populism. https://t.co/MIlz9YBbFn

— Joel Bocko (@LostInTheMovies) May 21, 2016

Buried in that Fox poll: Sanders up just 4 points on Trump, down from up 13 points in April. It’s about GOP voters coming home.

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) May 19, 2016

Spoiler: That won’t happen, because I’m pretty sure Trump regards Sanders as a political asterisk whose only use is to leach a few deluded leftists’ votes away from Hillary.

Per The Hill, “Sanders accepted an invitation by Fox News earlier this week to take part in an upcoming debate ahead of the California primary”, because he’s about to run out of money in one of the most expensive media markets. Does anyone here feel we haven’t had enough debates already? Has either Sanders or Clinton changed any policy positions since their last debate in Michigan? Can anyone pretend Fox News has any goal beyond trying to ding up Clinton with the same discredited garbage they’ve been slinging 24/7?

And what would be Deadbeat Donald’s motivation for agreeing to debate St. Bernie? Is he gonna persuade any Bernistas that, hey, maybe the man they really want in the White House is a xenophobic plutocrat who hates women, minorities, poor people, and global harmony? Will his shouting-slogans-from-the-podium “debate” skillz shine against Sanders’ (not all that dissimilar) style, or will they both come off as a couple of alte kackers who need a snack and a nap?

Honestly, if this rises beyond the murk of twitter fantasists, it’ll mean that Fox News has a hole in its schedule and hopes for a good, noisy, Jerry-Springer-style chair-throwing melee among the audience. And I doubt the Secret Service will let them entertain that idea for long.

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Late Night Drama Open Thread: There’s No Self-Pity Like White Male Self-Pity

by Anne Laurie|  May 20, 201611:06 pm| 421 Comments

This post is in: Bernie Sanders 2016, Election 2016, Enhanced Protest Techniques, Open Threads, Post-racial America, Women's Rights Are Human Rights, Assholes

bernie bro death threats morin

(Jim Morin via GoComics.com)
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The first professional sophist claimed that Man is the measure of all things, and the (white) men in charge have yet to get over it…

"I am a white man who feels like a black man in 1950." You might get a kick out of this @smoothkobra @eclecticbrotha pic.twitter.com/2RIs5YbP58

— ebihanabi (@ebihanabi) May 20, 2016

There has long been a faction of white male faux-leftists who see women & people of color as human shields. https://t.co/w7YGWimzDp

— Senator Al Giordano (@AlGiordano) May 19, 2016

"No one had a right to feel threatened." —Jeff Weaver on NV State Democratic Convention

That's not how it works. pic.twitter.com/DczWaT6Nrk

— Alan Kestrel (@AlanKestrel750) May 18, 2016

The ultimate in white dude entitlement: Complaining that people you terrorized are complaining about it. https://t.co/oZuiisDmh4

— Sady Doyle (@sadydoyle) May 18, 2016

And the thing is, they still feel like the victim(s) here. Further reading:

Rolling Stone, “Pro-Bernie Trolls on Why They Harassed Nevada’s Democratic Chair”. Guy who sent text messages you’re fired bitch… someone will hurt you… with images of slaughtered animals to the personal number of Nevada state Democratic party Roberta Lange —

… You’re right, stuff like that doesn’t benefit the campaign, but it’s not necessarily about his campaign, as [much as] it is [about] anger. And I’m not justifying any threats or anything like that, but I would justify people who were upset. Because there is clearly stuff that should not have happened that did happen on Saturday. I can speak for myself: that was very upsetting to me, and the person I was viewing it with, because it felt like democracy was stolen. Like, people weren’t getting their voices heard…

Jezebel‘s political subblog The Slot, “We Called Up Bernie Fans Who Threatened Nevada Dem State Chair and Asked Them to Explain Themselves” —

"I get threats every 1 to 2 seconds" @rlange9 on fallout following NV convention https://t.co/GRZ3dmeLHT https://t.co/IjTw4zF4kO

— CNN Newsroom (@CNNnewsroom) May 17, 2016

… “I can’t really say for sure if there was an intention on that,” he replied. “I don’t really want to say too much.”

He was “of a younger age,” he explained—older than 18 but younger than 25. “This is our first primary,” he said. “And watching the convention on Saturday, watching the livestream, was very frustrating. I think there were a lot of people who were angry. But I don’t personally have anything against anybody. I never had any intentions of any negative actions or anything like that. I made that very clear. A lot of people are angry.”

I asked if he would’ve done the same thing if he knew people would be able to call him back.

“I wouldn’t have done it had I not been hyped up and angry,” he said. “ But I’m not saying I did anything. I’m not saying I made any threats. I had no intention of threatening anyone.”…

Nobody understands that they have been misunderstood! Wounded! Deeply wounded in their feelings! Their precious, precious feelings!

The only woman in the Presidential race, who's being attacked on two fronts now, is the only one not whining about "fairness."

— J-San (@lawdood) May 20, 2016

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