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Green and Grey

by Betty Cracker|  October 29, 20138:17 am| 56 Comments

This post is in: Our Failed Media Experiment, Security Theatre, Very Serious People, WIN THE MORNING

I’m surprised no one has highlighted this fascinating exchange between NYT editor Bill Keller and Glenn Greenwald. It’s lengthy but worth reading, even if you utterly despise one or both men, if only for what it reveals about how two players in an evolving media complex perceive their roles — and each other’s.

A couple of highlights — Greenwald calls out the mainstream media for fetishizing balance here:

A journalist who is petrified of appearing to express any opinions will often steer clear of declarative sentences about what is true, opting instead for a cowardly and unhelpful “here’s-what-both-sides-say-and-I-won’t-resolve-the-conflicts” formulation. That rewards dishonesty on the part of political and corporate officials who know they can rely on “objective” reporters to amplify their falsehoods without challenge (i.e., reporting is reduced to “X says Y” rather than “X says Y and that’s false”).

He cites the way the Times served as cheerleader for the Iraq War and its squeamishness about calling waterboarding “torture,” etc. Much of their exchange centers on the objectivity issue, with Greenwald arguing that everyone is biased, so a pretense of impartiality is dishonest. Keller makes his best (in my opinion) counterargument here:

I believe that impartiality is a worthwhile aspiration in journalism, even if it is not perfectly achieved. I believe that in most cases it gets you closer to the truth, because it imposes a discipline of testing all assumptions, very much including your own. That discipline does not come naturally. I believe journalism that starts from a publicly declared predisposition is less likely to get to the truth, and less likely to be convincing to those who are not already convinced. (Exhibit A: Fox News.) And yes, writers are more likely to manipulate the evidence to support a declared point of view than one that is privately held, because pride is on the line.

There’s also a fairly amusing and somewhat rancorous exchange about David Brooks, in which Greenwald slams Brooks as a dishonest, elitist hack and Keller accuses Greenwald of failing to appreciate Brooks’ elevation of reason over passion.

Nothing in it will change anyone’s mind. But the discussion on media bias and impartiality is interesting, with Greenwald arguing (correctly, in my view) that mainstream outlets like the NYT have an undeclared interest in carrying establishment water and Keller countering (again correctly, in my opinion) that focus on an agenda can lead a writer to select and interpret evidence to support preconceived notions. Neither of those ideas is new, of course, but it’s interesting to read prominent purveyors of both genres discussing the phenomenon candidly.

There’s a lot of complaining around here (with some justice, I think) that every discussion about the surveillance issue devolves into a donnybrook centering on personalities, but the question of motives and intent isn’t irrelevant — not to this issue or any other that requires us to rely at least to some extent on the interpretation of material we can’t directly access or lack the expertise to evaluate properly. Ultimately, in the absence of independently verifiable facts, doesn’t it come down to integrity?

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Héritage – It’s French for inheritance

by Sarah, Proud and Tall|  October 21, 20138:38 pm| 49 Comments

This post is in: Black Jimmy Carter, Free Markets Solve Everything, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome, Very Serious People

So, kiddies. It’s a still, slightly damp morning down here at the other end of the world – the light is yellowed and odd through the haze. The air is redolent of burning eucalypti and, sadly, a couple of hundred houses that went the same way, with more to come it seems. Spare a thought for those poor people, and the brave boys and girls of the volunteer Rural Fire Service.

But for the smoke, which is playing silly buggers with my asthma, I could be as far from the fires as you. My neighbour is pottering in her garden. A kookaburra is eying off the goldfish pond from his perch in the jacaranda. The kids next door are playing a bit too much hip hop for my taste, but it’s not too loud so I haven’t called down the wrath of the local constabulary upon them. (Ask for Constable Reilly – he’s the one with buttocks like a ripe, if slightly bruised, peach.)

I am reading, as I am wont, a scholarly work about healthcare reform, and the politics of healthcare reform. This one was linked to by Backwoods_Sleuth over at LGF. It’s a ripper.

I like to read all political books as if I knew nothing about the author (and let me tell you, with the amount I drink, I’m often not pretending). It’s wonderful. I read a book the other day by a young woman called Ann Coulter that was the funniest thing I had read in years. Who knew Americans could write satire that dark? Or Germans? Mein Kampf. Fucking. Hilarious.

Anyway, let’s see. A National Health System for America. Edited by Stuart M. Butler and Edmund F. Haislmaier. Good solid names, I thought. I imagined them as avuncular, charming types. Maybe a bit fusty, but a good night out if you got a few drinks into them early enough.

Published by the Heritage Foundation. Who doesn’t like heritage? I have a Louis Quinze armchair I’d sell my nephew to match, and that’s heritage. Heritage made me think that Stu and Ed are possibly a little more conservative than me and you, but so’s many of my friends. I imagined that the Heritage Foundation has a nice library, with lovely armchairs, where Ed and I could get happily shickered together on some of his undoubtedly fine scotch while we bantered about inpatient deductibles. It was all quite reassuring.

Now, being your dedicated blog-servant, I have read all 127 pages of Ed and Stu’s little book, and I am pleased to say that you pretty much only need to read the introduction, in which Ed and Stu quite helpfully summarise the whole thing.

Let’s see. Are you sitting comfortably?

Health 1

Sounds familiar. Not many laughs in there though. Well, if you’re not a Republican, anyway. Then it might raise a few guffaws. A good start though – Our health system is fucked. And has been since at least 1988, apparently. More amazingly, people expected Congress to do something about it. Who would have thought?

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Open Thread: So Much for That Clever Plan, Sen. Cruz…

by Anne Laurie|  October 10, 20137:58 pm| 118 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, Very Serious People

"health-care law has become MORE popular since the shutdown began" http://t.co/GDtO86jQWC @EWErickson: "Ah, the sweet smell of success!"

— billmon (@billmon1) October 10, 2013

WSJ/NBC poll suggests Ted Cruz is the best thing to happen to Obamacare since the SCOTUS decision.

— Karen Tumulty (@ktumulty) October 10, 2013


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If the Teahadists have lost Karen Tumulty… well, let’s just acknowledge a true Media Villager always knows when to cut ties with the no-longer-fashionable.

Apart from watching the tides, what’s on the agenda for the evening?

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Open Thread: What Might (Not) Have Been

by Anne Laurie|  September 1, 20135:05 pm| 102 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Very Serious People

Ah, the inexorable March of History. From John Grey’s TNR review of a Margaret Thatcher biography:

… When, after several unsuccessful attempts elsewhere, she presented herself as a potential parliamentary candidate before Conservative Party members in Finchley in 1958, she expected “that the usual prejudice against women will prevail and that I shall probably come the inevitable ‘close second.’ ” When she was selected to stand for the seat, the outgoing member of Parliament, Sir John Crowder, was reported as complaining that the Conservative Central Office had “[imposed] a choice on the constituency between ‘a bloody Jew and a bloody woman.'” But it was in Finchley that Thatcher benefited from the smile of fortune that would accompany several formative moments in her career. Appearing alone, since Denis (whom she had married in December 1951) was in Africa on business, the thirty-two-year-old Thatcher cut a striking figure. Speaking with force and confidence, she impressed the local party chairman so much that he misreported the final vote on her candidacy. “She didn’t actually win,” he told his son on the night. “The man did, but I thought, ‘He’s got a silver spoon in his mouth. He’ll get another seat.’ So I ‘lost’ two of the votes and gave them to her.” Unknowingly, Thatcher entered the House of Commons as the result of a well-meaning act of electoral fraud….

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Now, THIS is how you troll

by Soonergrunt|  August 24, 20131:28 pm| 346 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Clown Shoes, General Stupidity, I Read These Morons So You Don't Have To, Somewhere a Village is Missing its Idiot, Very Serious People

Noam Chomsky is trolling the ENTIRE left wing of American politics:

Noam Chomsky, who’s written over 100 books, has said the former Alaska governor and Republican vice-presidential nominee was right about Barack Obama’s 2008 election slogans.

The guy hasn’t been relevant to pretty much anything in about three decades, and hasn’t said anything different or original in that time either.  To say nothing of the fact that his understanding of actual living people and what motivates them has never been any deeper than the superficial academic level as we all know.  Isn’t it precious how much the right wing, generally populated by people with the same 1/4-inch deep intellectual understanding of actual human beings as Chomsky himself is so excited about this?

Let’s face it, while The Onion had his number two years ago, they could have done this satire on him in 1990 and it would have fit just as perfectly.

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Back to School With Privatization

by Kay|  August 12, 201311:48 am| 43 Comments

This post is in: Free Markets Solve Everything, Fuck The Middle-Class, Glibertarianism, Good News For Conservatives, The Math Demands It, Very Serious People

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This is an actual publication, BTW. I’m gonna read this 2008 issue just to discover what these two things might have in common:

Golf and University Privatization
MPR2008-01: Summer 2008
Published on June 17, 2008

Speaking of privatization, here’s another great education reform idea that is completely about kids and definitely not about racing to the bottom, privatization, or profit:

Michigan Republican Sen. Phil Pavlov, who chairs the state Senate’s education committee, is preparing legislation that would allow public school districts to hire teachers through private, for-profit companies. Privatizing the hiring process would presumably allow school districts to bypass compensation packages sought by teachers unions and let private companies compete for contracts with districts.
Pavlov didn’t respond to a request for comment on the teacher privatization plan. But Pavlov has publicly described his plan, which he said was still in the works, this way: “I look at it as offering options. If there is something out there that can offer school officials the same options at a lower cost, schools need to take a look at that. It needs to [be] part of the conversation on reform.”
Michigan Sen. Gretchen Whitmer, the state Senate minority leader, says she and the Democratic Caucus plan to fight Pavlov’s proposal if it is included in new education legislation. She describes teacher privatization as merely a continuation of Michigan Republicans’ education agenda. “Gov. [Rick] Snyder and Republicans have made no bones about it: they’re trying to dismantle public education in Michigan,” Whitmer says.

Ohio has been reforming schools much longer than Michigan. We’re well into the second decade of this totally new and innovative agenda here, so allow me to predict your future, Michigan. Reform means less funding for every existing public school, lower wages for local school employees and tests. Lots and lots of tests.

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Governor McCrory has a change of heart on Moral Monday protestors

by Kay|  July 12, 20134:37 pm| 39 Comments

This post is in: Zombie-Eyed Granny Starver, Very Serious People

Conservatives aren’t great on governing, but they’re always available when it’s time to lecture the citizenry:

McCrory said he has come out to hear what protesters are not happy about on the Moral Monday protests.
“I go out in the crowd all of the time,” McCrory said. “Frankly, yesterday I went out and talked to several of them and they were not very respectful. They did not represent the majority of those who call themselves moral by cussing me out. But that’s the way things go some times.”
Rob Schofield, of N.C. Watch Policy, said if McCrory has been coming to Moral Mondays he has done it in disguise and has avoided all media attention.
The Rev. William Barber, president of the state NAACP, said he has yet to see McCrory at any of the events either.

McCrory said he can identify with protesters because when he was mayor he also came to Raleigh at one point to protest. He said on the occasion he protested he did not break the law as some Moral Monday protesters do. “But I welcome, I welcome protesters,” McCrory said. “What I don’t accept is when they break the law. I don’t agree with them breaking the law and taking up valuable resources in that area to have to take them to jail,” McCrory said.
Schofield said he invites McCrory to come talk with them on Mondays.
“If he really wants to interact with this growing movement and its many legitimate concerns, he should come up to the podium and speak,” Schofield said. “Better yet, he should sit down and engage with its leaders in real and meaningful dialogue and condemn conservative groups – one funded by his budget director – that have printed scurrilous attacks accusing the Moral Monday leaders of corruption and theft.”
Barber said it is the governor who is disrespectful to the growing number of protesters assembled each Monday to have their voices heard.
“It seems that the governor is saying I’m hurting the poor and sick and disabled by denying Medicaid, but I’m doing it politely,” Barber said in a statement to the Times. “I’m snatching the only money unemployed people have away from them, but I’m doing it politely. I’m raising taxes on the working poor politely. I’m signing a bill that will hurt public education and allow racism in the court system, but since I’m doing it politely you should only criticize me politely.”

This is how conservatives in North Carolina responded to the Moral Monday protestors at first, before Governor McCrory had this miraculous (and completely not political) change of heart where he “welcomes” protests:

Organizers of the “Moral Monday” protests at the General Assembly are now firing back at Gov. Pat McCrory and other critics. The NAACP says the overwhelming majority of the arrests are North Carolinians, not out-of-staters as some have suggested.
“These protests are just prefabricated direct partisan attacks,” said Republican Party Chairman Claude Pope. The new head of the state GOP thinks they are outside agitators as Republicans push back hard. In an op-ed piece in the Chatham Journal, New Hanover County Republican Senator Thom Goolsby calls the protests, “Moron Monday,” and last weekend, McCrory called protestors “outsiders.”
“All they’re left to do is try to bring in outside group, whether they’re from Pennsylvania or from other parts of the state, union protestors, basically professional agitators,” said Pope.
ABC11 went looking for evidence of protestors from out-of-state, and didn’t find much.
In the court records from the 84 arrests Monday, four protesters were from out of state — two were from Georgia, one from Tennessee, and another from Colorado.
Organizers say of the 400 people arrested in total less than 10 have lived outside of North Carolina. They accuse Republicans of trying to delegitimize their movement.
“This is a common for the ultra-right and extreme,” said N.C. NAACP President William Barber. “They can’t defend their policies. So when you can’t do that, then you attempt to deflect and distort the records.”

McCrory’s smear campaign didn’t work, so it’s now time to “welcome” protestors.

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