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It is overcast and rainy and everything hurts and on top of that it is like 80% humidity, the kind where there is no breeze and it feels like you are wearing a skin skin made of vapor. I am not loving things and am unmotivated to write at length about anything.

And then there is this fucking guy:

nobody wants this
nobody asked for this
nobody needs this

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— Cake or Death (@johngcole.bsky.social) July 29, 2025 at 2:32 PM

Just go away.

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  6. 6.

    geg6

    You have got to be kidding.  Jesus, who would buy that shit?

    Hell Cole, quitcher bitchin’.  At least you got some rain.  It was 90F and sunny all day with ridiculous humidity.  One more day of this and, hopefully, by Thursday it will finally be only 80F.  I hate this stuff going on for weeks on end.  I don’t want anything crazy.  Just normal summer temps!

  9. 9.

    dmsilev

    Today’s fun read comes to us courtesy of the Oklahoma Board of Education:

    Nude women streamed to office TV derail Oklahoma Board of Education meeting

    But the current hot-button issue consuming the Oklahoma State Board of Education isn’t about improving this position; it’s about whether someone was streaming video of nude women gathered around a “chiropractic table” to a TV visible during a Board of Education meeting last week.

    Making the whole thing even wilder is the behavior of Walters, who was running the meeting and whose staff is now pumping out official press releases with gloriously deranged headlines like “Response to the Most Absurd, False, and Gutter Political Attack from a Desperate, Failing Establishment.”

    According to his press release, Walters said that “any suggestion that a device of mine was used to stream inappropriate content on the television set is categorically false. I have no knowledge of what was on the TV screen during the alleged incident, and there is absolutely no truth to any implication of wrongdoing.”

    (I think that’s what TV Tropes calls a “Curiously Specific Denial”)

    I was like, “What am I seeing?” I kind of was in shock, honestly. I started to question whether I was actually seeing what I was seeing… I was like, “Is that woman naked?” And then I was like, “No, she’s got a body suit on.” And it happened very quickly, I was like, “That is not a body suit.” And I hate to even use these terms, but I said, “Those are her nipples.” And then I was looking closer, and I got a full-body view…

    Another board member confirmed this description, calling the footage “retro” and saying that the nude women were standing around a “chiropractic table.”

    Retro? The nude women standing around a chiropractic table had 1960s hairstyles? The footage had musical accompaniment like a 1920s silent film? Please, this needs more explanation.

  13. 13.

    lowtechcyclist

    Fuck yeah! Halfway between the Democrats and a party that’s gone batshit insane, that’s the place where you’ll find true wisdom!

  17. 17.

    dmsilev

    @Wapiti: I suppose that might be it.

    Also, just how repressed do you have to be that you regard “nipples” as a dirty word? Even by Oklahoma Republican standards, that seems a bit much.

  18. 18.

    lowtechcyclist

    Not to mention, there IS no meaningful political center anymore.  What’s the centrist position between trying to build up programs that work for people, and trying to tear them all down?​

    ETA: Or what’s the centrist position between programs that make sense in the real world, and programs that are batshit insane?

  20. 20.

    eclare

    @geg6:

    Seriously.  We have had nothing but blazing sunshine for weeks, on top of the high today of 98.  The high on Friday is forecast to be 85.  Ahhhh…

  23. 23.

    Shalimar

    @dmsilev: Mid-1980s porn is now 40 years old.  If porn were cars, everything before 2000 would be antiques.  We’re exactly the same distance from 1985 as people in 1985 were from the end of WWII.

    We’re all getting old, is what I’m saying.    The definition of retro is constantly changing.

  24. 24.

    Parfigliano

    @dmsilev: Best part is the guy whose office the TV streaming the porno was in is one of those christian wack jobs that’s always telling others they are going to hell for their moral failings.

  25. 25.

    lowtechcyclist

    @bbleh:

    “On a remainder table near you! Get it TODAY!”

    “Your last chance before they’re all shredded for recycling!”

  27. 27.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @geg6: You have got to be kidding. Jesus, who would buy that shit?

    There must be Manchin fans out there. Probably a lot of overlap with Romney fans.  Strong contenders for worst fandoms in politics.

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    In other this is wrong on some many levels news, recently appointed Florida AG is selling “Alligator Alcatraz” merchandise online to fund his run for election.

  37. 37.

    Kayla Rudbek

    @lowtechcyclist: I don’t know for sure, although intellectual property laws make some real weird bedfellows (senators Hawley and Blumenthal were sponsoring an anti-AI bill, for example). ipwatchdog.com/2025/07/22/hawley-blumenthal-bill-aims-rein-ai-companies-use-copyrighted-works/id=190…

    Patent law I think runs about 2/3 Democratic to 1/3 Republicans in the profession overall (note that IP Watchdog has a very strong Republican bias in my opinion).

    However, the Republicans may have broken Gene Quinn who runs IP Watchdog, as the leaked proposal to have patent maintenance fees being based on the value of the patent (instead of flat fees as is currently done in the US and as the rest of the world does too). Directly quoting Quinn: “Let’s not sugar coat this. Charging patent owners a percentage of the overall value of a patent is catastrophically stupid.”
    ipwatchdog.com/2025/07/28/purported-plan-charge-patent-owners-percentage-patent-value-fraught-peril/…

  39. 39.

    Nix Besser

    I’m surprised nobody has commented on the writer of the foreword. Nick Saban? Boy, those copies will just fly off the shelves with his imprimatur! Was Urban Meyer not available?

  40. 40.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @Nix Besser: I’m surprised nobody has commented on the writer of the foreword. Nick Saban?

    Is that the person who brought Power Rangers to the US?

  42. 42.

    The Audacity of Krope

    Manchin is the corporeal avatar of the notion that good politics involves not understanding anyone else’s true needs and concerns and forming compromises based on heinously superficial readings of the issue at hand, then weighting that compromise for your own personal interest and those of your friends and business partners.

  45. 45.

    NotMax

    @Kayla Rudbek

    Brings to mind the prediction of British admiral Jacky Fisher:

    ‘The most fatal error imaginable would be to put steam engines in submarines.”

    But the Royal Navy went ahead and did it anyway, with catastrophic results.

  48. 48.

    patrick II

    I am not sure what “dead center” in the current context means.  Trump wants to deport 1 million immigrants, the democrats zero who are not criminals. Does that mean Jonly wants to deport 500,000?  Trump is taking a $400,000,000 bribe, in the form of a Boeing 747.  Does Joe want to limit the president’s foreign bribes to $200,000,000?

  49. 49.

    Suzanne

    Can we yeet that motherfucker into a mineshaft already?!

    God. God. Just fuck off.

    Deep breath.

  52. 52.

    Chauncey Baker

    Like, I never comment, ever. Long, long time lurker. Can’t even get me out for those “Oh, look! You’re a great Lurker! Please, now do one of the things you like to do least and leave us a comment about how you love to be a Lurker. Thank You!” You’re a very polite bunch.

    I digress. I only comment when necessary and now is one of those times: Fuck this guy. Who…the…FUCK…is going to read this? This piece of shit needs to be vaporized. I’m not talking dead, just POOF: fucking gone. Who needs to hear another billionaire cry?

    Fuck this guy. Fuck him in the ear. Fuck him in both ears!

  53. 53.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @patrick II: I am not sure what “dead center” in the current context means.

    It means don’t think about things, don’t question things. Just leave the decision making to coal barons who will appropriate the fruits of your labor and treat your neighborhood like an aspiring Superfund.

  57. 57.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Parfigliano:

    christian wack jobs that’s always telling others they are going to hell for their moral failings.

    And of course he was a raving homophobe who had lesbian porn on the TV. Because that’s what Jeebus would watch.

  58. 58.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: the covert (overt?) purpose of Manchin’s centrist woo is to justify the corruption that you described, as well as his family’s oh-so-special status as capitalist MoUs.

    That’s silly. It is self-justifying. You just declare yourself above the petty partisans.

  59. 59.

    Sister Golden Bear

    Meanwhile the West Coast is under a tsunami watch for the next hour thanks to an 8.7 quake off Russia.

    Probably nothing serious here in the SF Bay Area, but some parts of the Pacific got 1-3 meter waves.

  60. 60.

    Kayla Rudbek

    @NotMax: I think I have a book or two about bad inventions (although one of them lists the tandem bicycle as a bad invention so I’m not sure how far to trust the author’s judgment) and then the Japanese have developed un-useless inventions into a fine art en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chindōgu

  61. 61.

    Librettist

    Neo-centrist Joe Manchin. But that’s just labels. I’m sure the message is if Democrats had seen the right and nominated him when Biden dropped out, something… something.

    He is similar to Cuomo in that way. They view ideology as transactional in service of their narcissism.

  64. 64.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    @The Audacity of Krope: “Why are they so divisive? Can’t we all just come together?” Icky partisans…

    But it works all too well on swing voters, especially of the older and paler variety. And it can be co-opted for covertly partisan purposes by liberal Democrats – like Joe Biden.

    …who, unlike Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, was an unabashedly economically liberal, pro-union President, despite everyone calling him the centrist. But I digress.

  67. 67.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @mrmoshpotato: LIke a steamed hot dog bun for a Chicago-style hot dog but it’s a sub roll? 😁

    Not remotely what I had in mind. But I’m dirty.

    That actually does sound like something that could be quite good. I’m a big fan of dumplings.

  71. 71.

    Suzanne

    I am going to be petty, which is what I do best.

    The graphic design and photography on that book cover looks worse than a first-year graphics student’s first InDesign project. I bet it took someone all of half an hour to design that dreck. Well, the good news is that no one will be buying it.

  74. 74.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: But it works all too well on swing voters, especially of the older and paler variety. And it can be co-opted for covertly partisan purposes by liberal Democrats – like Joe Biden.

    It’s practically a politico-religious article of faith among people who are just interested in politics enough to vote but not to talk about it. Most of these types that I encounter, when pressed, will describe their common sense vision of this or that issue and more often than not sound like they’re agreeing with Democrats.  Stands to reason as Ds tend to form the compromises including both parties’ concerns among themselves. This person will nevertheless be shocked at the suggestion and insist Republicans are closer to their ideal.

    I got in just such a conversation with my mother recently. Who insisted Biden instituted open borders unilaterally and her vision of an immigration system that simply processed more people through the appropriate legal channels was something Democrats would never get behind.

    In my experience, the only barrier preventing Democrats getting behind such a plan would be their excessive accomodation to Republican concerns about border security. That is as opposed to actual concerns about border security, which are real, but are not the result of fever dreams.

  75. 75.

    Scout211

    @Sister Golden Bear: whoa!  My family is vacationing in Hawaii right now and all island coastal areas are threatened.

    A TSUNAMI HAS BEEN GENERATED THAT COULD CAUSE DAMAGE ALONG
    COASTLINES OF ALL ISLANDS IN THE STATE OF HAWAII. URGENT ACTION
    SHOULD BE TAKEN TO PROTECT LIVES AND PROPERTY.

    A TSUNAMI IS A SERIES OF LONG OCEAN WAVES. EACH INDIVIDUAL WAVE
    CREST CAN LAST 5 TO 15 MINUTES OR MORE AND EXTENSIVELY FLOOD
    COASTAL AREAS. THE DANGER CAN CONTINUE FOR MANY HOURS AFTER THE
    INITIAL WAVE AS SUBSEQUENT WAVES ARRIVE. TSUNAMI WAVE HEIGHTS
    CANNOT BE PREDICTED AND THE FIRST WAVE MAY NOT BE THE LARGEST.
    TSUNAMI WAVES EFFICIENTLY WRAP AROUND ISLANDS. ALL SHORES ARE AT
    RISK NO MATTER WHICH DIRECTION THEY FACE. THE TROUGH OF A TSUNAMI
    WAVE MAY TEMPORARILY EXPOSE THE SEAFLOOR BUT THE AREA WILL
    QUICKLY FLOOD AGAIN. EXTREMELY STRONG AND UNUSUAL NEARSHORE
    CURRENTS CAN ACCOMPANY A TSUNAMI. DEBRIS PICKED UP AND CARRIED
    BY A TSUNAMI AMPLIFIES ITS DESTRUCTIVE POWER. SIMULTANEOUS HIGH
    TIDES OR HIGH SURF CAN SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE TSUNAMI HAZARD.

    THE ESTIMATED ARRIVAL TIME IN HAWAII OF THE FIRST TSUNAMI WAVE IS

    0717 PM HST TUE 29 JUL 2025

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    @Sister Golden Bear

    Here as well.

    Tsunami warning issued for Hawaii.

    The warning reports that the tsunami could cause damage along the coastlines of all Hawaii Islands, urging people to action to protect their lives and properties.

    The estimated arrival for the first tsunami wave is at 7:17 p.m. today.

    Tsunamis come in a series of long ocean waves with each individual crest lasting between 5 and 15 minutes or more, and could potentially flood coastal areas.

    According to the forecast, “The danger can continue for many hours after the initial wave as subsequent waves arrive. Tsunami wave heights cannot be predicted and the first wave may not be the largest. Tsunami waves efficiently wrap around islands. All shores are at risk no matter which direction they face. The trough of a tsunami wave may temporarily expose the seafloor but the area will quickly flood again. extremely strong and unusual nearshore currents can accompany a tsunami. Debris picked up and carried by a tsunami amplifies its destructive power. Simultaneous high tides or high surf can significantly increase the tsunami hazard.” Source

  78. 78.

    Martin

    @dmsilev: I think Oklahoma is one of the states that Pornhub has blocked (my understanding is that basically all the porn sites are owned by the same company), so weird vintage might be the only thing they can dig up there.

  81. 81.

    Librettist

    When the billionaire boys club realizes they’re gonna need a stalking horse to drag O.M. Spance across the line against any random Democrat.

  82. 82.

    hueyplong

    A little bit taken aback at how angry I am to be reminded that Manchin still exists.

  83. 83.

    eclare

    @Suzanne:

    I wonder if the graphic artist did that on purpose because they hate Joe Manchin.  Similar to how whoever did Meghan McCain’s hair on The View must have loathed Meghan McCain.

  85. 85.

    The Audacity of Krope

    @eclare: whoever did Meghan McCain’s hair on The View must have loathed Meghan McCain.

    I heard she did her own hair…

  89. 89.

    Geminid

    I ran into a fresh poll on the New York mayoral race on Dave Wiegel’s social media account. From pollster Amit Singh Babba:

       A new, independent– and the most in-depth– poll of this cycle from me and Zenith Polls shows Zohran Mamdani expanding his coalition with a 28 point lead over Cuomo in a 5-way race.

    Top line: Likely Voters 1021/1453

    50%  Mamdani

    22%  Cuomo

    13%  Sliwa

    7%  Adams

    1%  Walden

    Mr. Singh Babba noted that the poll was conducted in 4 languages and asked 44 questions. It showed Mamdani leading in every ethnic group and every income bracket.

    The poll found that 68% of likely voters would not consider voting for Adams; 63% would not vote for Cuomo; and 59% would not consider voting for Sliwa.

  91. 91.

    Scout211

    @eclare: Daughter just texted and said all their phones went off with emergency warnings so they are aware and prepared.

  94. 94.

    apocalipstick

    ‘Foreword by Nick Saban’ is the 👨‍🍳 💋. We know that the ol’ ball coach is just an average, moderate dude.

  97. 97.

    NickM

    At first, I thought Dead Center might be the name of Joe’s luxe “houseboat”. But, no, it’s “Almost Heaven”.  I can’t think of anything clever to say about that that isn’t dead obvious.

  98. 98.

    Wilson Heath

    My fantasy had been for Manchin and Sinema to leave Washington together at the end of their term, driving off in the same Tesla.  So they could die in a fire.

  101. 101.

    TONYG

    Manchin had a political career in West Virginia that lasted more than forty years.  They kept on electing him to higher and higher offices.  What the hell is wrong with those people?

  103. 103.

    TONYG

    @Geminid: It still cracks me up that the NYC Republicans built that Time Machine to transport Curtis Sliwa from the eighties.  How many New Yorkers younger than 55 even know who he is?

  105. 105.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @japa21: Honestly, I am not sure right now.  Josh Kaul would be a strong candidate.  Sara Rodriguez would be in the running.  But we will see.

  106. 106.

    ruckus

    @NotMax:

    Yep, seems like it would back – fire quite easily. And in more ways than one.

    I served on a USN ship 1971-72 that was steam powered and launched not all that long before with 1200 degree, 1200 psi boilers. The previous generation USN steam powered ships used 600 deg – 600 psi boilers. This was a guided missile destroyer, DDG 18, not a submarine. So I’m at least somewhat familiar with reasonable steam powered ships. But a steam powered sub? First of all the boilers couldn’t run when the ship was underwater – the boilers required a fair bit air to keep the fire going to create the steam. Which means that the sub likely had to run on the surface quite often. And steam boilers take a bit of time to come up to temp and pressure. And to cool off when shut off. I cannot see this being a rational concept whatsoever.  The ship I was one was very reasonably powered, fast,  and at least for the time used reasonable amounts of fuel for a ship. I have zero concept of today’s ships. I do know that modern steam power works well on ships. Or at least it did in my time.

  109. 109.

    Timill

    @ruckus: The K class were a rational solution to the problem posed: a flotilla of submarines that could keep up with the Fleet.

    This turned out to be a stupid concept, but subs had hardly been used in warfare back then, and they spent most of their time on the surface anyway running on diesels.

  111. 111.

    Jackie

    Of course he is. Sean Diddy is FFOTUS’s kind of guy.

    President Trump is heavily weighing giving Sean “Diddy” Combs a full presidential pardon ahead of the convicted Bad Boy Records founder’s sentencing later this year, Deadline reports.

  112. 112.

    Martin

    Huntington Beach is going soft. They closed the beaches and gave in to the woke tsunami. What the fuck happened to personal responsibility you cowards!

  113. 113.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Kristine:

    53 years before it was released—1919—people were still listening to music on Victrolas. 

    But still shaking their asses and getting down tonight!

  115. 115.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Martin: 🎵Spice up your life! – with a healthy green glow that leaves you as impotent as a Nevada boxing commissioner🎵

  116. 116.

    Jackie

    Governor Hegseth?

    “Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has privately discussed the idea of running for political office next year in Tennessee,“ NBC News reports.

    “If Hegseth were to follow through on the discussions, it would amount to a major leadership shake-up at the department that oversees the American military and millions of federal employees. The Defense Department bars civilian employees from running for political office, meaning Hegseth would have to resign to do so.”

    *snip*

    One of the people said their discussion with Hegseth happened within the past three weeks and that it was serious, not simply spitballing ideas. The other person, who also characterized it as serious, wouldn’t say when they had spoken — except that it was since Hegseth became defense secretary in January. The two sources, along with others in this article, were granted anonymity to speak candidly.
    The discussions centered on what it would take to run. One person said they discussed the eligibility requirements to run for governor of Tennessee and Hegseth’s chances of winning. The other person said they talked with Hegseth about the realities of a campaign.
    The people who have spoken with Hegseth said he has specifically mentioned a possible campaign for governor in Tennessee, where he lives. The state has an open race for governor next year, though there are eligibility requirements for candidates that Hegseth might not meet.

  117. 117.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jackie:

    The state has an open race for governor next year, though there are eligibility requirements for candidates that Hegseth might not meet. 

    Is liking Jack Daniel’s a Tennessee governor’s race requirement?

  118. 118.

    NotMax

    Wind shifted enough to bring, very faintly, the first sounds of warning sirens wafting in from down at the coast.

    @Martin

    Nuclear does not require a funnel as coal-fired boilers do. Nor space dedicated to tons and tons of dusty fuel.

  121. 121.

    bluefoot

    @Sister Golden Bear: After Fukushima I was in SF and the remains of the tsunami hit. That wave itself wasn’t so bad but the ocean was very unpredictable for several days after. There were warnings about staying off the beaches because of rogue waves. At least one person, I think it was in Marin, was washed off the shore and killed.

  123. 123.

    Jackie

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Is liking Jack Daniel’s a Tennessee governor’s race requirement?

    Hegseth believes so. He’s a huge believer of imbibing Tennessee moonshine and helping the state’s economy ;-D

  124. 124.

    ruckus

    @NotMax:

    I seriously doubt there are very many coal powered ships, mainly because when I was in the USN quite a few decades ago most coal burning ships had been retired. Most ships do 25-30 years before being decommissioned. After that, they require too much maintenance, to many things go wrong. And while ships are not the fastest transportation, much of any other type of freight carrier, say airplanes, cost a lot, and few carry anywhere near as much as a ship, and cost more to operate per pound of cargo. A 25-30 year old ship can be torn down and the steel melted and reused to build another ship. Salt water does a lot of damage to metals. I know I’ve seen it first hand, crossed the Atlantic 6 times, have stood on Antartica and been way north of the Arctic circle.

  128. 128.

    NotMax

    Fix.

    @Ramona

    Diesel-electric, petrol-electric and kerosene-electric, while past their infancy, were in toddlerhood.

  130. 130.

    ruckus

    @NotMax:

    The reactor may not actually be all that big but the protection bits and pieces for the crew is not insignificant. Have been on a nuclear sub at one point and served in the USN on a guided missile destroyer. Have refueled from a nuclear powered aircraft carrier,  the ship I was on burned JP5 for the boilers, like all the jet planes of the era and on board that carrier. And have been on that carrier for my job duties. Now of course this is over 50 years ago…

  131. 131.

    ruckus

    @NotMax:

    The DDG I was on was steam powered, the turbines were seemingly small, the boilers for that steam were not insignificant in the least, and there were 4 of them. The ship burned what I recall was fuel oil, and it was not all that highly refined. Had the density of about 10 weight motor oil. Maybe 5 weight. One of my on board duties was forward refueling. I was in charge of the forward refueling crew to bring on the steel cable that the fuel hose – about 8-10 inches in diameter hung/ran on and make sure that everything was done properly. Good times…..

  132. 132.

    RaflW

    About that Manchin book, Amazon blurbs it “A memoir–and a manifesto―like no other…”

    Uniquely bad is still, yep, unique!

  133. 133.

    NotMax

    @Ramona

    (Mostly) low grade petroleum when traveling on the surface, using electric batteries when submerged. The fuel engines, when surfaced, also recharged said batteries.

  134. 134.

    prostratedragon

    “Rabbis Arrested In John Thune’s Office For Praying For Food Aid To Gaza”

    More than two dozen rabbis were arrested Tuesday after sitting down on the floor in Senate Majority Leader John Thune’s office and praying for food aid for people in Gaza.

    The rabbis, who are part of a campaign called Jews For Food Aid For People In Gaza, planned to be arrested for their act of civil disobedience. They represented more than 750 rabbis and Jewish clergy, along with 23,500 other individuals, who signed onto a statement by the campaign urging an immediate end to the Israeli government blockade of food aid into Gaza.

    Rabbis came for the event from all over the country and from all major Jewish denominations in America (Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist and Orthodox). Seated in Thune’s office, they wore traditional Jewish ritual garments and demanded that lawmakers change existing policies to ensure that food is immediately made available to all people starving in Gaza. They also held a mourning service, including singing and chanting from Jewish liturgy.

  140. 140.

    RevRick

    @rikyrah: I get that he was difficult a lot of the times, but without his Senate votes yes we wouldn’t have got the American Recovery Act or the Reconciliation Bill and its amendment passed or many of Biden’s appointees confirmed.

    Besides, he was the only Democrat who could get elected in West Virginia, and now look where we are.

  141. 141.

    lowtechcyclist

    @RevRick: ​

    I get that he was difficult a lot of the times, but without his Senate votes yes we wouldn’t have got the American Recovery Act or the Reconciliation Bill and its amendment passed or many of Biden’s appointees confirmed.

    Besides, he was the only Democrat who could get elected in West Virginia, and now look where we are.

    Yeppers to all this. Another example of the worst Democrat still being miles better than the best Republican, as much of a pain in the neck Manchin was.

    Oh, and doing that age trick, my birth was closer to the last half of the Chester Arthur presidency than to now. You’ve got a few years on me. :-)​

    ETA: And if my wife does this trick this time next month, her birth date would then be closer to the Wright Brothers’ first flight than to the present as of that time.

  144. 144.

    Geminid

    @Big Fly: When I heard this story, I wondered if the prospective political campaign was a way for the White House to offload their crappy Defense Secretary onto the people of Tennessee. They don’t want to fire Hegseth, but I suspect they don’t want to keep him either.

  145. 145.

    Big Fly

    @Geminid: Agreed. I wouldn’t be surprised that the WH has enlisted the aid of TN’s former (D) senator to usher things along until the time is right.

  148. 148.

    Paul in KY

    @ruckus: I wouldn’t think there is any coal fired ship in service anywhere. Civilian or military. They are too dangerous, with the coal dust and whatnot.

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