Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Baby steps, because the Republican Party is full of angry babies.

“Alexa, change the president.”

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

The fundamental promise of conservatism all over the world is a return to an idealized past that never existed.

You cannot love your country only when you win.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Following reporting rules is only for the little people, apparently.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

The real work of an opposition party is to oppose.

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

I’m more christian than these people and i’m an atheist.

They think we are photo bombing their nice little lives.

You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

“Until such time as the world ends, we will act as though it intends to spin on.”

Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson is the bland and smiling face of evil.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

GOP baffled that ‘we don’t care if you die’ is not a winning slogan.

Fear and negativity are contagious, but so is courage!

The Giant Orange Man Baby is having a bad day.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

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The more Republicans and established Dems go after him, the more I like him.

I know I am not alone in this.

Gotta Love a Guy Who Fearlessly Speaks His Mind

h/t Baud from Bluesky

Today we learned Andrew Cuomo is directly coordinating with Donald Trump, even as this President sends masked agents to rip our neighbors off the streets and guts the social services so many New Yorkers rely on.

It’s disqualifying and a betrayal of our city.

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— Zohran Kwame Mamdani (@zohrankmamdani.bsky.social) August 6, 2025 at 5:27 PM

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  6. 6.

    JoyceH

    OMG, you guys! Trump took questions in the Oval this afternoon, and he was at a podium and referred a question to Vance, so we got a view of another part of the office. And WHEW! Gold curlicues all up and down the wall and also all over the door panels! It’s starting to look like a complete caricature.

  10. 10.

    Van Buren

    @WaterGirl: My AC crapped out today, I think yours sent bad vibes or something.

    Luckily it is fixable, all I need to do is burn $1250 as an offering to the AC Gods

  11. 11.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @Van Buren:

    Like the flu or the plague, it’s been going around.

    Our furnace crapped out a month ago which is where the blower and all the other stuff that supports the AC were located.  A week of 100 degree temps that we kinda got around because of the portable unit in our upstairs.  Most nights it got down to 60 which helped cool things down for the next day.

    Our HVAC god required a lot more money as a sacrifice to alleviate our first world problem.

  12. 12.

    Trollhattan

    Some mechanics on California’s possible November redistricting vote. Shorter them: November is a lot closer than it may seem.

    Elections officials across California are preparing a speed run toward a possible special election on November 4, as the state considers a response to Texas’ efforts to redraw congressional maps to benefit Republicans. The election would be about whether or not to adopt new congressional maps that benefit Democrats.

    Gov. Gavin Newsom says he would only ask the Legislature to call the election if Texas moves ahead with its plan. That plan is currently in limbo, as Texas Democratic lawmakers remain out of state to deny Republicans quorum in their legislature. Still, with so much needing to happen if the election is authorized, officials are organizing now, should the dominoes begin to fall.

    The Secretary of State’s office, which oversees the election process, has given the Legislature a deadline of August 22 to decide whether or not it’s happening.

    “Any less than two and a half months, you’re not gonna have time to hire people and get them trained and get everything running properly in order to do the election,” said Secretary of State spokesperson Jim Patrick. The August 22 deadline means lawmakers, who return from summer recess on August 18, will have just a few days to publicly discuss possible maps and approve a special election.

    Some election statutes will have to be suspended If that election is called, officials will launch into action, with only 80 days until November 4th.

    According to Patrick, that means the state will have blown past two existing requirements: one which mandates the governor give the public 148 days notice before a statewide election and another that commands the Legislature to approve placing something on the ballot not less than 131 days before an election. He said they’ll likely be unable to meet a requirement to show counties a voter guide 48 days before an election. Patrick said these statutes will need to be suspended by the Legislature.

    To prepare officials, the Secretary of State’s office held a planning meeting Monday with over 250 people calling in. “These folks are now whipping together contracts. They’re trying to get workers,” Patrick said. He said one county is scrambling for envelopes for vote-by-mail ballots.

    “It’s exciting on the one hand,” Patrick said, although, “cramming an entire year’s worth of work into two and a half months is a daunting prospect.” Placer County Registrar of Voters Ryan Ronco was on the call. He said “a lot of items are up in the air,” but officials were told it was “highly likely” the election would take place.

    sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article311599894.html#storylink=cpy

    And for laffs, “activists” had a “recall Newsom” rally at the Capitol last Sunday.

  13. 13.

    WaterGirl

    @Van Buren: I’m sorry!  I got off easy at $100.

    But I still have the oven and car thing coming up.  Moved the car appointment to next week.  Oven is tomorrow.

  15. 15.

    Trollhattan

    Anybody see a downside to this?

    “President Donald Trump said Wednesday that he will impose a 100% tariff on computer chips, likely raising the cost of electronics, autos, household appliances and other goods deemed essential for the digital age,” the AP reports.

    Which WH flunkie drew the short straw on telling Donny these chips are not served with ranch?

    Gotta believe Elmo not a fan of that.

  16. 16.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    Very few so-called establishment Democrats have criticized him. And of those that have (a very small number), more than half have just criticized a policy position or two. I think moderate Democrats expect their progressive colleagues to bash them and their policy positions incessantly. I do not understand how mostly mild criticism or even just not endorsing him is the equivalent of ‘going after him’.

  18. 18.

    JoyceH

    @NotMax: this section of the Oval (I think it’s the door that goes to the president’s dining room) was four or five more than that. I mean, curlicues everywhere!

  20. 20.

    cain

    @Trollhattan: ​
     
    None of the chip people are going to be happy. But iphone users are especially going to be unhappy. Good thing my wife bought her upgrade now.

  21. 21.

    Josie

    I don’t care that Mamdani is Muslim or that he is a Democratic Socialist. I just love that he is willing to call out these people for what they really are. This is what we need from our leaders.

  23. 23.

    cain

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: ​
     

    Our friends at TPM, put out another backchannel update and according to it, our Dem politicians have gotten the message loud and clear on what they expect from them and it’ 100% edgelord stuff.

    I’m highlighting it here not simply or primarily because Democrats stiffed Trump on his demands, though that is a plus and something new. Instead, it’s that Schumer/Schumer’s team is pushing out this concentrated message that they not only didn’t cave but that Trump got mad — that Trump was pissed that he’d been handed a defeat. Democrats want to see Democratic elected officials fighting with Donald Trump and winning at least some of the time. And since it’s often hard to know in the midst of various policy and procedural details what constitutes “winning,” the best sign is Trump getting mad. That is the world we are in.

    As TPM’s Emine Yücel explained for us yesterday, Democrats are at least signaling they’re going to go to war with Trump in the coming big budgetary showdown that will arrive next month. Now to be clear, put me down as a decided skeptic on whether Chuck Schumer is the person who can lead Senate Democrats as they need to be led in the Trump era. But coming off the March budget showdown debacle, at a minimum, Schumer and his media advisors are now clear on the kind of legislative leader Democrats are demanding and are very focused on portraying him as that guy. Are they ready for what’s coming in September? I’m not really sure. But I think they have a pretty clear sense of what’s being demanded of them.

  24. 24.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @cain:  I was referring to the silly idea that the Democratic establishment out to get Mamdani, rather than just luke warm.

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: I suspect it’s like vampires and the sun.

    Corrupt person repelled by someone who is anti-corruption?

  30. 30.

    matt

    What I like about Mamdani is that he’s a class warrior. No rich donor cringing cowardice.

  31. 31.

    Interesting Name Goes Here

    @matt: I’ve heard that before.  Everyone is a class warrior until, suddenly, they’re not.

    Except for That Guy.  That Guy will never not be a class warrior because, like a certain other pest this nation cannot seem to be rid of, there is nothing he can do that his fans won’t immediately scrub off to maintain his saintly demeanor.

  35. 35.

    Shalimar

    @Van Buren: My AC died too temporarily, but it turns out I have never had one where you had to drain the water out of the pan like at this new house so it was not too hard to get going again once I learned how.  It feels very low quality but at least it works.

  36. 36.

    Captain C

    As a NYC voter I can safely say that I’m delighted to have a chance to vote for Mamdani this November, and Andrew Cuomo can go fuck himself.

  39. 39.

    Baud

    Via Blue sky

     

    Superman star Dean Cain enlists in ICE as he calls undocumented immigrants criminals
    Dean Cain joined the ranks of ICE as he proudly declared his dedication to deporting undocumented immigrants from the United States.

  40. 40.

    NaijaGal

    @matt: I love this too, but as long as Citizens United holds, Dems have to fundraise in an environment in which most billionaires back Republicans and some of those Dems will be beholden to the same billionaires. The Supreme Court legalized corruption of democratic values and we are all paying for it.

  45. 45.

    Geminid

    @tobie: I don’t think Trump or his advisors believe they can beat Mamdani, even in unlikely event the other candidates drop out and it becomes a two man race between Cuomo and Mamdani. But Republicans definitely believe they can political hay out of Mamdani’s candidacy. I think they’re wrong on this count, but they’re gonna try and that’s what Trump’s gambit is about.

  48. 48.

    Jackie

    @Steve LaBonne:

    So much sage will have to be burned there the last week of January 2029

    Maybe it’s time to burn it to the ground and start from scratch. WHO – including many republicans – will want to live in a WH so desecrated by a vile human being?

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    So watching the video that Baud linked to, I can see one more reason why Mamdani scares them so much.

    He has a bit of a  swarthy look about him.  I’m sure scares them to death.

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    @Geminid: I wouldn’t be surprised if they are painting Mamdani as such a threat in the hopes that one of their deranged followers might take him out before the election, or if he wins.

    There is no bottom for these people.

  52. 52.

    patrick II

    @Baud: ​

    Probably trying to compensate for his actual last name — Tanaka. I wonder if his grandparents were placed in camps.

  55. 55.

    suzanne

    @Captain C:

    As a NYC voter I can safely say that I’m delighted to have a chance to vote for Mamdani this November, and Andrew Cuomo can go fuck himself. 

    You carry my spirit with you. It’s a three-fer: one vote for Mamdani also flips the bird to FFOTUS and Cuomo?!?! Be still my heart.

  56. 56.

    cain

    @Baud: Dean Cain who played an illegal immigrant in a blue suit and red cape.

    We need to erase him as ever being Superman.

  57. 57.

    Martin

    I think it’s remarkable that the NYT even reported this and gave Mamdani such a gift.

  58. 58.

    Martin

    @JoyceH: The sooner it looks like one of Saddam Hussain’s palaces the better. He also needs a bunch of supercars and Bentleys parked there.

  60. 60.

    ExPatExDem

    The best reason to vote Mamdani isn’t even for a changing of the guard.

    It’s because Cuomo and Adams are genuinely corrupt, shitty people.

    You don’t even have to vote “lesser of two evils” in NYC.  Just vote for the “not evil” choice.

  62. 62.

    Martin

    @Trollhattan: cramming an entire year’s worth of work into two and a half months is a daunting prospect

    And yet, it probably never should have required a year’s worth of work in the first place.

  63. 63.

    Shalimar

    @Baud: You know you haven’t done much with the rest of your career when they picture they use for the article is from 1993.

  66. 66.

    JoyceH

    Hey guys, I’m joycelh on Bluesky. I don’t post much there, but i just got and posted a screen grab of the new section of the Oval Office decor.  As I said on my post, it looks like Liberace threw up in there.

  70. 70.

    ExPatExDem

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:  It’s kind of hard to deny that Dem leadership was out to get Mamdani in the primary.  Like when Kirsten Gillibrand decided that Cuomo being a predator wasn’t a problem, after leading the mob against Al Franken, or James Clyburn from bumfuck South Carolina decided to make an endorsement for the NYC Mayoral Primary.

    Now they’ve switched to merely being feckless.

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    @ExPatExDem:

    I seem to recall that Kirsten Gillibrand has a history of flip flopping.  So no surprise there.   Clyburn, on the other hand, is a big surprise.

    PRESERVING THE STATUS QUO

  77. 77.

    schrodingers_cat

    I am so old that I remember when Fetterman was the “progressive” darling, Conor Lamb was too boring and he wore pants. I also remember when SInema was much beloved on here. She and her weird dress sense were praised.

    Its like politics is entertainment for some people not a matter of life and death. ZM is the flavor of the month. Let’s see how long that lasts.

  80. 80.

    ExPatExDem

    @Geminid:   She did *not* oppose him either, now did she?

    Quite the change from coming for Al Franken, guns blazing, no?

  81. 81.

    Baud

    BJ alum vs. BJ alum

    Until today, I had always thought Freddie De Boer was some fantasy character cooked up in a TV show writers room for a tendentious perpetual counter-example guy–one of those guys who thinks he's a liberal but always manages to take anti-liberal positions because he's really a conservative asshole.[image or embed]— soonergrunt (@soonergrunt.bsky.social) Aug 6, 2025 at 8:14 PM

  83. 83.

    The Audacity of Krope

    I detest gerrymandering and I will not speak on Gavin Newsom at this time.

    But I support this plan and would support the measure if I lived in Cali.

    Wait, where did I think I was putting this?

  85. 85.

    Jackie

    @Gin & Tonic: Or not? He even upset Ohioans:

    JD Vance’s team had the army corps of engineers take the unusual step of changing the outflow of a lake in Ohio to accommodate a recent boating excursion on a family holiday, The Guardian reported Wednesday.
    The request from the US Secret Service was made to “support safe navigation” of the US vice-president’s security detail for an August outing on the Little Miami River, according to a statement by the US army corps of engineers (USACE).
    Vance was spotted in the south-western Ohio area on 2 August, his 41st birthday, according to social media posts that noted he was seen canoeing on the river, a tributary that Caesar Creek Lake feeds into.
    One source with knowledge of the matter who communicated with the Guardian anonymously alleged that the outflow request for the Caesar Creek Lake was not just to support the vice-president’s Secret Service detail, but also to create “ideal kayaking conditions”. The Guardian could not independently confirm this specific claim.
    The news raises questions about whether Vance’s office was potentially exploiting public infrastructure resources for his personal recreation at a time when the Trump administration has cut billions of dollars in foreign aid, scientific research and government jobs as part of its “efficiency” drive.
     

  86. 86.

    Geminid

    @schrodingers_cat: I want to see how Zohran Mamdani does as Mayor of New York City. I’m confident he’ll get the chance, and I’m keeping an open mind about the prospect.

    Ed. But yeah, there’s a lot of hype around Mamdani’s canidacy. He’s only one of three Democrats running for important public offices this year, the other two being Mikie Sherrill in New Jersey and Abigail Spanberger in Virginia.

  87. 87.

    Another Scott

    @Betty: $1300?  I guess you haven’t bought gold recently (since mid 2019?).

    3,438.80 USD today.

    The price of gold is nuts.

    :-(

    HTH!  :-)

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  90. 90.

    Martin

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I don’t think you can leave out the problem that establishment Democrats seem uncertain of how to win (having just not won) and you have not just NYC dems but national dems pointing at Mamdani and screaming ‘that’s how you win’. We’re looking for a sign that the party is willing to learn the lesson, and we’re not seeing it.

    And I’m pleased to see that TPM piece suggesting that Dems need to fight harder, and yes, they need to. But if that’s the only lesson they took, they missed it. Mamdani didn’t fight against Republicans. He basically never mentioned them. He focused on directly helping people economically and voters are saying ‘Yo, can you do that? Remember when you failed to pass a minimum wage hike in 2021? Do better.’

  91. 91.

    Jackie

    @WaterGirl: I wonder if the photographers have to use a special filter on their cameras to tone down the glare bouncing off all that shininess.

  92. 92.

    Lyrebird

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Yeah I cynically viewed some of that exaggerated reporting as directly trying to keep Dems and allies well and thoroughly splintered.

    Luckily both Mamdani and my senators seem much more reasonable and determined to move forward than the headlines would suggest.

  93. 93.

    Geminid

    @Martin: Mikie Sherrill and Abigail Spanberger will furnish lessons in how Democrats can win every bit as important as Mamdani’s. Their states and New York City are comparable in population, with the City being the smallest. All three Democrats are capable and hardworking politicians.

  95. 95.

    TS

    @cain: But I read that apple are going to spend billions on a factory in Texas – keep the head boy happy – wonder who they will get to work there?

  97. 97.

    cmorenc

    Are those gold trophies on the Oval Office mantle some of Trump’s golfing “club championships?” from golf courses he owns?

  98. 98.

    Geminid

     

     

    @ExPatExDem: That’s right, Gillebrand stsyed neutral in the Mayoral race. Franken was a fellow Senator and that was why she spoke out.

  103. 103.

    Citizen Dave

    The J D Hillbilly kayakgate has me recalling the last trumpflunkie’s excursion to famously car-less Mackinac Island: via google, On his 2019 visit to Mackinac Island, then-Vice President Mike Pence used an eight-vehicle motorcade for transportation. This was a notable event as Mackinac Island has maintained a ban on most motor vehicles since 1898, with exceptions primarily for emergency and service vehicles. The Secret Service reportedly required the use of the motorcade due to security concerns.

     
    ‘Pence has fouled our paradise’: Furious Michiganders slam the vice president after his motorcade descended on car-free Mackinac Island
    businessinsider.com/mike-pence-car-free-mackinac-island-michiganders-react2019-9

  104. 104.

    JoyceH

    @cmorenc: The gold pieces on the mantle are genuine gold and from the WH collection. But no president before now got them all lined up and crammed together like a shelf at the Goodwill.

  111. 111.

    Martin

    @Another Scott: Eh. Case Schiller/gold is not widely out of bound. Basically the cost of a home in gold is about the same now as it was throughout the last 15 years. Those two things should not track closely except as a measure of the buying power of the dollar.

  112. 112.

    Jackie

    @JoyceH:

    The gold pieces on the mantle are genuine gold and from the WH collection.

    Something else to keep an eagle eye on – along with classified and Top Secret documents when (if) FFOTUS leaves the WH 1/20/29…

  113. 113.

    Geminid

    @TS: Sure, Texas has a lot of immigrants, it being an economically dynamic state. There are plenty of native Texans as well, and they can do those.jobs too.

  115. 115.

    JoyceH

    @WaterGirl: Somehow, I’m imagining that when a world leader who’s been to the Oval Office recently meets another leader ditto, one of them says, “The Oval….” and starts laughing and the other guy knows exactly what he means and he starts laughing too, until they’ve laughed so long and loud that they’re both red-faced and gasping for breath. It’s a bonding experience.

  118. 118.

    Trollhattan

    @Jackie:

    These people do not understand how shit works. Like Donny forcing the Corps to release reservoir water while LA is burning. Only the reservoir is north of the Tehachapi and the water can’t be delivered to LA.

    I’m sure somebody said “sir.”

  119. 119.

    Martin

    @TS: They’ve done this before and it didn’t work. Even for a pretty low volume product (for them) they couldn’t find enough workers.

    The fundamental problem the US faces is that American manufacturing workers are 5x more productive than Chinese ones. That doesn’t mean they’re 5x better, just that we uplift our manufacturing to more advanced things. So if you want to maintain US GDP and not import a bunch of workers, every task that you shift from China to the US needs to either be able to be done with 1/5 the number of workers, or at a time the US has pretty decent employment the US has to shift a worker from a more productive job to a less productive job and in doing so will inflate the cost of that good so much to attract that worker that you might as well just have a tariff on it – and you run the risk of then exporting that more productive job because now it has a labor shortage.

    One problem is that people view iPhone/computer assembly as highly productive, but it’s not. It’s really low value. The productive bit of the computer is the design, and the manufacture of the silicon, and the software and services it runs. Well, the design, software, and services are all dominated by the US – we kept the good stuff and offloaded the stuff that wasn’t worth wasting American labor on. The silicon is what Biden was trying to claw back and which will now almost certainly fail because the tariffs are raising such havoc that what progress we were making is reversing. Who gives a shit about putting screws in phones, we should be doing more productive manufacturing but the real problem with that is a lack of training infrastructure and, well, ideology because renewables was a pretty good manufacturing sink for the US but we keep yanking the rug out from under it.

  120. 120.

    Trollhattan

    Trump: it’s definitely Epstein.

    President Trump lost his cool over more questions about the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, CNN reports.

    Said Trump: “The whole thing is a hoax. It’s just a way to divert attention to something that is total bullshit.”

  126. 126.

    Another Scott

    @Martin: The Mac Pro??!  That thing was ridiculously, hugely, obscenely over priced.  $6k and up – to $52k!  And, of course, almost nobody bought them.  Of course they couldn’t keep a US factory for them running.

    Not a good example.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  128. 128.

    dww4

    @WaterGirl: From the getgo I’ve believed that Trump will never voluntarily leave the White House and his decorating fetishes are more anecdotal evidence.

    We, the non-capitulators, will have to reclaim it and de-accessorize it. While also  reclaiming our democracy.

  129. 129.

    Martin

    @Another Scott: Mac Pro is designed for music/video production. If you’re making a $200M film, $52K is nothing. They’re very cheap for the target market. The problem wasn’t the lack of demand – customers were waiting months for them, but they struggled with domestic components and labor shortages.

    The previous design was also made in the US with an effort to make as much of it as possible in the US and they struggled. This will be the 3rd time they’ve tried to make this factory work with this product, and I’m not convinced it’ll go any better.

    My son works as part of the semiconductor supply chain and his company is moving their manufacturing out of the US for the same reason. It’s not worth it for their suppliers to make these low value components (see my comment above) so they just have to get them from Asia, which creates a lot of supply chain problems. And if Trump is going to have a 100% tariff on the components they use but only a 20% tariff on the finished part, their customers in the US can buy them cheaper if they’re made overseas than here. Note, in the 4 months since Trump first threatened that tariff, his company has nearly completed the factory in Vietnam they’re going to move to. My son is expected to go there as early as next month to start training workers.

    Note, that all could have been avoided with a sensible tariff policy rather than this nonstop blustering bullshit. If they’re outside the US, 80% of their customers will be insulated from this garbage. But the whole move was initiated months before the tariffs started because they had lost 3 of their last 4 US component suppliers because two of them had stopped producing the kinds of things they needed last year and the third was selling RMA/used parts to keep costs down – and his company is making devices to go in $300M pieces of machinery, and they need reliable suppliers. So they made a tentative decision to move, waited for the vaunted ‘boosting US manufacturing plan’ and decided that is solved none of their problems and made matters worse and pulled the trigger to bail.

    You cannot solve this problem with knee-jerk bullshit policies. You need a strategy, and there is none. We are not serious about this and haven’t been since I started my career in the 90s.

  130. 130.

    Martin

    @Another Scott: Oh, and you say it’s not a good example. If they can’t get a product that ships 700,000 units per year to work in the US, how the fuck are they supposed to get one that ships 200,000,000 units per year. Apple gave the US the lowest possible bar to clear with the largest margins available to sink into wages, and we’ve twice failed it.

  131. 131.

    kalakal

    I don’t know enough about Mamdani to comment on his merits as a potential Mayor of NYC but should he win I hope TFGs attacks on him work out as well as TFGs attacks on Sadiq Khan.

    Khan is the Lord Mayor of London and everything TFG hates. His parents are Pakistani immigrants, his father worked as a busdriver, Khan attended a very non elite university, worked his way up to being Minister for Transport and then replaced Boris Johnson as Lord Mayor. TFG has been attacking him as a loser since 2016 when Khan became the first ethnic minority and the first Muslim Lord Mayor, since then Khan has gone on to  be the first three time Lord Mayor cheerfully returning TFGs bile on social media and in interviews.*

    On TFGs Scottish golfing trip the following exchange took place

    Sir Sadiq Khan has hit back at Donald Trump after the US President called him a “nasty person” who has done a terrible job” but that he would “certainly visit London”

    A spokesman for the Mayor said: “Sadiq is delighted that the President wants to come to the greatest city in the world.

    “He’d see how our diversity makes us stronger, not weaker; richer, not poorer.

    “Perhaps these are the reasons why a record number of Americans have applied for British citizenship under his presidency.”

    *Basically TFG has been pushing the London as Portland burned to the ground while Sharia Law & scary Muslims control poor oppressed whites BS ever since Khan was first elected.

  132. 132.

    prostratedragon

    Kate Starbird, who is currently on the faculty of the University of Washington Department of Human Centered Design & Engineering:

    If anyone is curious about the current list of search terms being used by right wing activist organizations to harass university professors, here’s a public records request I received today from Mike Howell of the Heritage Foundation. Not intimidating or meant to curtail by my speech at all, right?

    Dear Kate,
    Our office received a new public records request which seeks records related to you. You can view it here:

    The requester is Mike Howell, of the Heritage Foundation/Oversight Project

    I will be conducting a search of your account to collect records responsive to this request. Based on the language of the request, we will be collecting:

    Emails containing the keywords:
    1. “diversity and inclusion”
    2. “DEIA”
    3. “DE
    4. “Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging”
    5. “DEIB”
    6. “gender identity”
    7. “racial preference”
    8. “ESG”
    9. “organizational equity”
    10. “intersectionality”
    11. “anti-racism”
    12. “critical race theory”
    13. “LGBTQ4”
    14. “transgender”
    15. “cisgender”
    16. “gender ideology”
    17. “white privilege”
    18. “privilege walk”
    19. “cultural humility”
    20. “equity audit”
    21. “restorative justice”
    22. “racial equity”
    23. “implicit bias”
    24. “microaggressions’
    25. “inclusive pedagogy”
    26. “identity-based oppression”
    27. “systems of oppression”
    28. “queer”
    29. “non-binary”
    30. “sexuality”
    31. “Trump”
    32. “fascist”

  133. 133.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @ExPatExDem: Gillibrand was one of 3, including Cuomo, who criticized Mamdani harshly. However,  she walked it back when she found out she was incorrect. A couple of other moderates had mild critiques of policy. The majority of moderates were noncommittal. The progressive Dems were practically fawning in their praise. How is this some big movement of bad Democrats against Mamdani? It’s ridiculous.

  136. 136.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @Martin: Look. Mamdani ran a good campaign that excited people. He definitely deserves credit for that. I think his focus on public safety and affordablility are smart politics. I am genuinely surprised that progressive activists didnt jump all over him for talking about the importance of public safety.  But I do want to point out that NYC is not the rest of the country. What works in NYC works in NYC. Until I see guys like him win statewide races in purple states, I’m skeptical. He couldn’t win any office outside of the urban core in my state, period. I’d bet big money on that, and I do not gamble.

  137. 137.

    Martin

    @prostratedragon: This is a reminder of document retention records. A lot of offices do this wrong – they see a policy that requires they keep documents for 3 years as a minimum and they have the choice to hold onto them indefinitely. To the maximum extent possible you should delete/destroy those records at the end of 3 years for exactly this reason.

    If you receive a subpoena for records that are older than 3 years, and then you delete them per the policy, you will get in serious trouble for destroying records. However, if you delete them promptly before any subpoena arrives, you can just shrug and say ‘sorry, they don’t exist’. We had scheduled purge days to do this exercise so that if we were ever questioned we could point to the fact that we did it the same day every year. It applied to emails, database records, physical files, and especially internal notes. Not everything of course, there are things you do legitimately need after that retention deadline, but every single other thing got nuked from orbit.

    Your retention policy is a feature to protect you. Delete that shit at the first legal opportunity.

    -signed, university administrator that got a lot of subpoenas

  138. 138.

    Martin

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I never suggested that Mamdani would win elsewhere in the country. But to the extent that the Democratic Party is losing low income voters, including low income black and latino voters, a platform on direct support for working class voters will probably work in most of the country. And Trump did a better job with those polices than Harris did, and that should never happen.

    But I think another lesson to be taken from Mamdani is that almost all of his voter outreach was earnest free media. He didn’t need to fundraise for it and it was very man-on-the-street as opposed to the usual political stock photo stuff. It’s a very different vibe and very personal, which voters have come to like. (My daughter would point to the Hillary ‘Pokemon go to the polls’ cringe, which is to this day still a meme). Doesn’t enrich the consultants though.

    But direct working class stuff is also done by moderate dems, so it’s hardly a leftie thing. The media savviness is a lot more natural for young people, but I think if older politicians can drop their guard they can do it too. Like this is the smallest thing ever, but don’t do this. Just fucking be yourself, voters want to know you’re being straight and honest with them.

  139. 139.

    Eolirin

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: Then there’s also the issue that having a candidate like Mamdani win can poison the well entirely if the institutional support isn’t there for the seismic shifts in policy being promised. When nothing, or not enough, gets done, it’s easy to get a ton of people to swing entirely in the opposite direction out of disillusionment.

    Because the majority of our voters seem incapable of understanding that it isn’t just the guy at the top of the executive hierarchy that makes decisions and not enough people are willing to put in the work of organizing against the many veto points that exist in the system.

  140. 140.

    strange visitor (from another planet)

    @Martin: umm, the snooze criminal LIED about every one of his “policies”. he told every group what they wanted to hear. that’s not “doing a better job”.

  142. 142.

    Martin

    @Another Scott: You’re missing the point. Apple didn’t have trouble keeping the factory open because of lack of sales, they had trouble getting product that was in demand out of the factory because of supply chain/labor issues. So yes, it’s a good example because it was one of their lower volume products that the US should have been able to manage, but we keep trading out lower productivity manufacturing which undermines the ability to do this sort of thing, and it is itself pretty low productivity given that it’s mainly just assembly. They might CNC the cases there as well.

    And if you think that’s an Apple problem, the highest volume durable good used to be the Honda Cub at 100M units over 60 years. Apple just shipped their 3 billionth iPhone in 17 years. Apple has pioneered many parts of how to do global scale volume manufacturing. Nobody is better at it, and what’s more, they can roll a custom part out of the factory in China and have it in your hands usually in 72 hours – and that’s not some premium service, that’s how most of their products get shipped. But they have not been able to make that work in the US because the manufacturing foundation of the US is practically nonexistent and the infrastructure is terrible and uncoordinated (note the story above where the parts were being delivered to Apple in a Camry – that is not reliable infrastructure). Even in defense it’s pretty damn weak. And like I said before in the last 30 years nobody has made a serious effort to fix it.

    I’m not about to get into a ‘Apple is expensive and lame’ flamewar with you but the product isn’t for rendering, it’s for daily slinging of terabytes of 8K RAW video footage. These are almost exclusively FCP/Logic Pro workstations. Some other creator types/developers use them as well. Apple has more revenue selling watches than AMD has revenue, so if you want to flame Apple for having a product you think is dumb, then okay, don’t buy one.

  144. 144.

    prostratedragon

    Derek Guy:

    it’s crazy that i wake up every day and think “i can’t possibly have anything else to say on twitter” and then the US Department of Defense will be like “Our Secretary of Defense has great jeans ☺️”

    imagine fleeing the Vietnam War and in your arms you’re carrying a baby who will one day grow up to correct the US Secretary of Defense on his jeans. like bringing a football into the end zone.

  145. 145.

    Jackie

    Update from NY Congress members being locked up when trying to inspect an ICE detention center:

    The Department of Homeland Security flipped out on Wednesday after a group of Democrats posted a video of them being denied entry to an immigration detention center in Brooklyn, New York.

    New York Democrat Reps. Adriano Espaillat, Dan Goodman, and Nydia Velázquez were featured in a video posted on Espaillat’s X account. The trio was attempting to inspect conditions at the Sunset Park detention facility when Immigration  and Customs Enforcement agents prevented them from entering the building.

    The Democrats identified themselves as members of Congress, which gives them the legal authority to enter the buildings.

    DHS responded to the video from its official X account.

    “This is deeply unserious,” DHS wrote in a post. “The Members were not trapped and were free to leave whenever they would like, in fact the BOP, which manages this facility, had to close the gates to prevent the media from trespassing.”

    “Here are the facts: These members did not follow proper protocol and schedule their visit. Instead, they brought a gaggle of media to drive clicks and fundraising emails,” the post continued.

    DHS added that any requests for visits must give at least a week’s notice before they can inspect the facility, and DHS Secretary Kristi Noem must personally grant the requests. That timeline would allow the agency enough time to “protect the President’s Article II authority” to oversee the function of executive branches, the post added.

    See the entire post below or by clicking here.

  146. 146.

    Gretchen

    @JoyceH: I followed you at Bluesky after seeing that and your description of FBI director as having Charles Manson eyes. Well done.

  147. 147.

    prostratedragon

    35 miles nw of Chicago:

    ICE thugs violently kidnapping a pregnant woman off the streets in Elgin, IL as her child watches in horror.

    Please keep elevating these stories — Do NOT normalize this abuse. These people need to be held accountable.

  148. 148.

    Martin

    @strange visitor (from another planet): He wouldn’t have been able to lie about those policies if Democrats had competing ones. We kind of didn’t. The policies we had for the working class were pretty indirect, and the bigger showcase ones weren’t useful to the working class. Capping credit card rates at 10% was really attractive to people who just had their card rates jump from an average of 16% to 23% in 2024. No taxes on tips and overtime was also immediately attractive. These are very simple, very direct, like Mamdani’s policies. Yes, an expansion of the EITC was helpful as a Harris policy, but it also something most voters don’t understand. ¼ of eligible voters don’t claim it, and a lot the ones that do don’t fully understand how much it benefits them.

    And it’s not like Harris was on fantastically more credible ground than Trump. Biden campaigned on a $15 minimum wage and Democrats refused to pass it. Should voters have believed Harris on that? The homelessness rate in the US went up 18% last year, 39% among families – that’s how great Biden’s economy was. A lot of people – enough to swing an election – are right on that line and may not have 18 months for a tax package to come together and get implemented before they join them. Desperate people do not vote like comfortable people. In Maslows hierarchy of needs, self actualization is VERY far from housing and food and they will pick the direct over the indirect, and they will roll the dice on the liar if they’re offering the direct option. What do they have to lose, they’re homeless either way.

    Democrats keep ignoring this problem, keep saying how great the Biden economy was, and there are millions of people who haven’t gotten a 300% return on equity in their home or a 200% return in the S&P 500, who are putting 50% of their pay into rent and another 25% into food, and they are fucking desperate and a bunch of middle class policies aren’t going to help people that will never see the middle class. Bus fare is direct and meaningful. 10% cap on credit cards is direct and meaningful. You know who he took that policy from? Bernie and AOC who offered it up in 2019. You know who proposed it before them? Obama in 2009. Never got done. Why did Trump even get the chance to co-opt a Democratic idea? Why did we take that off the table? The same reason 8 senate dems defected on the minimum wage.

  150. 150.

    Another Scott

    @Martin:

    You’re missing the point.

    I’m providing counterpoints to the arguments you are presenting.

    Apple was one of the richest corporations on the planet.  If they had trouble getting parts in the US, they could get them nearly overnight elsewhere.  They didn’t use capacitors made from unobtainium, or something.  When they took over the solid=state music player market, they did so buy buying up memory production halfway around the world and didn’t care if other folks couldn’t get enough flash memory.

    When they decided they were going to use sapphire for the next iPhone, they spent a fortune to support throwing together a factory out of nothing, then decided a few months later – naah, we’ll stay with Corning glass instead.  $400+M set on fire without a second thought.

    They have the resources, they could make it work (certainly over the longer term) if they wanted to.  They’re not stupid – they can plan this stuff years in advance.  And they weren’t stupid enough to think that the plant had to use all US made parts – I don’t believe that.  Other manufactures found ways to make high performance PCs using parts from all-over.

    They didn’t want to, because they saw that there wasn’t a market for vastly overpriced Mac Pros, made in the US or anywhere else.

    Why would someone who depends on high performance buy into a halo PC family from Apple when it might not be updated for 4 or 6 years?

    Apple has a history of things like this.

    Remember the rackmounted XServe?  We had one at work.  Expensive, noisy fans, and they guy who bought it and ran it cringed whenever he had to update it because invariably it would break stuff (changed file permissions, was one case I remember).  Apparently the market was so small that they didn’t feel the need to actually test their updates for things like that.

    A case can be made that the USA has not done enough to ensure that important manufacturing can thrive here.  Tariffs can have a place there, but I think it’s clear that it’s a mistake to view what 47 is doing through some sort of industrial policy lens.  He’s doing the tariffs because he’s trying to shake-down foreign countries and US business leaders.  That’s it.  Using Apple’s Mac Pro factory in Texas to tell some larger picture seems to me to be a very bad piece of evidence.

    I could go on for another few pages, but will stop here.

    My $0.02.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  151. 151.

    Melancholy Jaques

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I’m pretty old myself and I am pretty sure the problem with Lamb wasn’t pants or boredom. He very vocally voted against Speaker Pelosi and had some leaning toward Trump moments. And while everybody was happy that a Democrat won a senate seat in Arizona, I can’t recall anyone expressing love for Sinema.

  152. 152.

    Bupalos

    @Baud: you’re a rando on the internet. In a space that is custom made for your opinions to be welcomed.

    you risk nothing here.

  153. 153.

    Jacel

    @Trollhattan: I’m a Californian, and I know there’s been a lot of movement in recent decades towards eliminating any elections during odd-numbered years in the state. The intent has been to focus voting on even-numbered years so that lower turnout in other years doesn’t distort the results. Just how many elections in the state were going to happen in November 2025? Could a special election for countering Texas gerrymandering be scheduled for a date later than that and still be effective for House elections in 2026?

  154. 154.

    Jacel

    @Trollhattan: Aren’t there Republicans who have been rallying and gathering petitions for recalling Newsom every week of the past eight years? They keep dreaming of their recall of Gray Davis in 2003.

  155. 155.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Bupalos: You don’t know that.  He could easily be so shamed by a negative reaction to something he said that he spontaneously combusts. Dozens of people spontaneously combust every year.

  157. 157.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Martin:

    10% cap on credit cards is direct and meaningful. You know who he took that policy from? Bernie and AOC who offered it up in 2019. You know who proposed it before them? Obama in 2009. Never got done. Why did Trump even get the chance to co-opt a Democratic idea? Why did we take that off the table? The same reason 8 senate dems defected on the minimum wage.

    To be fair, I recall the Biden admin finalized a 10% cap on credit card interest its last year in office only for a Trump-appointed judge to declare it unconstitutional. And then right after the election Sanders threw his supposed friend Biden under the bus and praised Trump’s similar proposed cap on credit card interest. All to what, separate himself from Biden and the rest of the Dems? And then the jerk, along with far too many Dem Senators, voted to confirm Trump’s monstrous picks. Sanders absolutely knew better. He campaigned on Trump being a threat to democracy like everybody else on the left and after the election seemed to change his tune, acting as if Trump was actually serious about his campaign promises to help people

    I never liked Sanders. I liked his policies, but I don’t like him as a person or a politician. He has no character as far as I’m concerned if he can do what I described above.

    And to be clear, I think what you say about the Biden economy, etc has a lot of merit, but I’ll never give Sanders credit for his criticism. I honestly think he’s a snake. I feel the same about Gavin Newsom. Earlier this year Newsom was babbling about “Making Movies Great Again” or some bullshit and inviting Charlie goddamm Kirkkk onto his stupid podcast, dumping on LGBTQ+ people because he thought that would position him well for 2028.

  158. 158.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Bupalos:

    you’re a rando on the internet. 

    No!  For this is Baud! of perpetual presidential campaigns!

    How DARE your bitchass belittle the perpetual and presidential Baud!

  161. 161.

    Martin

    @Another Scott:

    I’m providing counterpoints to the arguments you are presenting.

    You started by saying the product was a failure and Apple’s problem was a lack of demand. That was categorically wrong, not a counterpoint.

    Apple was one of the richest corporations on the planet.  If they had trouble getting parts in the US, they could get them nearly overnight elsewhere.  They didn’t use capacitors made from unobtainium, or something.  When they took over the solid=state music player market, they did so buy buying up memory production halfway around the world and didn’t care if other folks couldn’t get enough flash memory.

    They have the resources, they could make it work (certainly over the longer term) if they wanted to.  They’re not stupid – they can plan this stuff years in advance.  And they weren’t stupid enough to think that the plant had to use all US made parts – I don’t believe that.  Other manufactures found ways to make high performance PCs using parts from all-over.

    Yes, they can get them from China. When they took over the solid state music player market they bought the global supply of flash memory for a year. But what then is the virtue of turning the screws in Texas if all the components are gong to come from China anyway? That’s the point. If the goal it to make it in the US, then make it in the fucking US. Apple was making an earnest effort to do that, contracting in the US for screws, and had to resort to China in the end. So do we want a Made in US effort or do we want the thinnest possible veneer of that, because in the end, that’s what it was. The aluminum is from Australia, the CNCs are from Japan, the components are from China, the semiconductors are from Taiwan, all that’s left is to mill the frame and turn the screws (thankfully the US has a non-zero number of machinists).

    Dell moved their manufacturing out of Texas, btw. They have some left maybe in North Carolina, but it’s pretty much all in China now. They couldn’t make it work either, and they were the proudest of the Texas tech companies. So no, other manufacturers didn’t find ways to make it work. Lenovo still has some NC manufacturing – 115 workers best as I can tell. HP makes some servers in Houston, but my understanding is none of these are large numbers. Apple might have the largest domestic computer production in that factory.

    Why would someone who depends on high performance buy into a halo PC

    Again, the problem isn’t lack of demand. Customers are waiting months for product – the demand is there. You are letting your anti-fanboyism get in the way of making a coherent argument. The utility of Apple’s product is not relevant. What is relevant is that a product that sells about 700,000 units per year – about $3B in sales – with high enough margins that US vs Chinese wage differentials aren’t meaningful, is still struggling to operate because they can’t get parts when they need parts from domestic suppliers, and they have trouble finding trained labor, which again is exactly the same problem my son’s company is having. I do not think you appreciate just how much better China is at this stuff, and just how ramshackle the US effort to correct the problem is, even when there is an effort, which there usually isn’t.

    A case can be made that the USA has not done enough to ensure that important manufacturing can thrive here.  Tariffs can have a place there, but I think it’s clear that it’s a mistake to view what 47 is doing through some sort of industrial policy lens.  He’s doing the tariffs because he’s trying to shake-down foreign countries and US business leaders.  That’s it.  Using Apple’s Mac Pro factory in Texas to tell some larger picture seems to me to be a very bad piece of evidence.

    Show me a piece of evidence where US manufacturing is doing well. Intel is about to collapse. Boeing is digging out of a very big hole. Everything is very shaky and that’s why the tariffs are so challenging because they are taking a very fragile segment of the economy and flipping it over every few days with uncertainty. I said I didn’t think Apple’s Texas exercise was doing to do better on the 3rd round not because of the tariffs but because nothing has improved with respect to domestic manufacturing after the first two rounds, and in fact it’s gotten worse. I had been hopeful that the CHIPS act might save Intel before they swirled the drain but the legs are now getting kicked out from under that because it has Biden’s scent on it. The US may well find itself without a leading edge semiconductor manufacturer for the first time in history and we invented the fucking things.

  162. 162.

    Martin

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): No, that was a cap on late fees (a very good policy). The reason I bring up credit card rates is that when the fed raised rates to stem inflation (which wasn’t caused by an overly hot economy) it really hurt households that were carrying credit card debt because credit card rates are instantaneous – they don’t lock in when you get the card, they float. So a lot of people were facing much higher interest rates (average jumped from 16% to 23%) and much higher payments. It’s as though the inflation never stopped for them. The fee cap was good policy but it’s the average $750/yr per household in additional debt service that was the real problem right before the election. Democrats just didn’t have an answer for that and I don’t think Harris was in a position to make that kind of promise given who her donors were.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of Sanders either, but I think there is something to learn there about his ability to get Republican support. Most of the criticism of Sanders is less about his policies than his fellow travelers, which reveals a refusal to address those polices head-on. Same phenomenon with Mamdani and AOC. And essentially they are all saying ‘Democrats have lost the working class, and that’s why we’re losing elections’. And yeah, there’s a lot of evidence for that. And you don’t have to be a socialist to do working class economic politics. I’ve praised Marie Glusenkamp Perez for doing that.

    But you have to cut neoliberalism free to get there (which is what the DSA folks are demanding), and that’s what the party cannot yet accept. The GOP is facing the exact same problem from the right. Biden abandoned austerity, which was hugely helpful, and the ARA was fantastic, but unfortunately temporary. Don’t get me wrong, I think Biden’s reform of Obamas reforms of neoliberalism were well intentioned, and were a step in the right direction, ultimately they all buy into this notion that there is this beautiful utopian economic machine that if we just turn the wheels the right way (the left and right disagree about how to turn the wheels) and add some compensatory gears here and there (Obama with his set and Biden with his set) that eventually the machine will come into balance and solve all of our economic problems. And kudos for recognizing that the machine wasn’t working but the problem isn’t that the wheels don’t turn right or the compensatory gears weren’t added, the problem is that markets do not, and can not form such a machine ever. What Democrats have failed to understand is that the machine is flying apart faster than they can bring reform ideas to the table. The utopian vision of capitalism is a lie and cannot be reformed, as is the utopian socialist vision. And I don’t mean to suggest that the DSA folks have the solution – they don’t. But they at least understand that the utopian vision which is neoliberalism needs to be abandoned. That doesn’t mean we need to fully abandon markets, but they need to only come to where they are provenly useful and be able to be torn down when they abuse their utility to the public. Same for state services. Because I think the problem that Democrats have presented is that in their defense of the economic status quo, they’ve accidentally convinced the public that the problem isn’t the nature of our economy but democracy. They’ve provided too good of a defense of the wrong thing, because if democracy was working, they’d be listening to voters screaming that the economy is not working, and they’re refusing to do that.

  164. 164.

    BellyCat

    @Martin: The fee cap was good policy but it’s the average $750/yr per household in additional debt service that was the real problem right before the election.

    Yep. Also overlooked are variable rate Home Equity Lines of Credit (HELOCS). I’ve been paying an additional $600/month in INTEREST for the past three years due to interest rates which nearly TRIPLED during the much touted “great Biden economy”.

    Trump understands desperate people trying to pay their bills each month, and what they want to hear, because he’s been one most of his profligate life.

  165. 165.

    Martin

    @BellyCat: Yeah, I haven’t gotten around to looking at HELOCs. Kind of forgot they are typically variable rate. But I’m worried about housing. It’s a very odd market now and while we need more affordability for housing, quickly pulling the rug out from under homeowners is never a good time.

  168. 168.

    WaterGirl

    @dww4:

    We, the non-capitulators, will have to reclaim it and de-accessorize it. While also  reclaiming our democracy.

    Yes and yes.

  169. 169.

    Another Scott

    @Martin:

    That’s the point. If the goal it to make it in the US, then make it in the fucking US. Apple was making an earnest effort to do that, contracting in the US for screws, and had to resort to China in the end.

    [ rofl ]

    Sorry.

    US manufactures have been sourcing materials and parts and equipment from around the world for 100 years or more (e.g. Henry Ford). Saying Apple couldn’t make its Texas Mac Pro factory work because it couldn’t get US screws is kinda silly. (Almost) Nobody cares where their fancy tri- and pentalobe screws are made.

    PCs are commodity items and have been for a few decades now. Apple figuring out that it couldn’t make a 40-50% margin on Mac Pros by, you know, actually selling them in the numbers they hoped (because they couldn’t execute) isn’t a compelling argument for US manufacturing being doomed.

    Dell and Lenovo have a market selling to the DoD because, among other things, they take TAA Compliance and US assembly seriously. Apple (rightly or wrongly) doesn’t feel that market is worth chasing. (It looks like Apple had TAA Complaint iMacs in 2018.)

    Pratt and Whitney seems to be doing Ok making stuff in the USA.

    Again, my quibble is with the evidence of your example of the Mac Pro factory in Texas.

    We own lots of Macs and J has an iPhone. I’m not an Apple hater (don’t get me started on Gates and MS…). I don’t feel like Apple is somehow a victim here. They simply, among other things, don’t want to give up their margins, but they want the good press of “see, we’re (half-heartedly) building (press releases) in America!!”.

    YMMV.

    (Have I killed this thread yet??)

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  171. 171.

    WaterGirl

    @Jackie: Why the hell would you give them a week’s notice to fake clean things up?  I wonder if the one week thing is a rule or regulation or just some bullshit they made up.

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