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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Late Night Open Thread: Rudy Giuliani Is Not Dead

Late Night Open Thread: Rudy Giuliani Is Not Dead

by Anne Laurie|  September 1, 202512:17 am| 36 Comments

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NPR: Giuliani hospitalized
NBC: Giuliani hospitalized after crash
CNN: Giuliani in serious condition after car crash
FOX: King Giuliani hospitalized immediately following a beautiful domestic violence case where he was a hero and great guy
Skip the Online Raccoon: Rudy dead lol

— Skip, the Online Raccoon (@badposter.lol) August 31, 2025 at 8:54 PM

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The Rudy Giuliani story is a nice change of pace. The health difficulties of 80 year old men are significantly less distressing when they aren't urgent national security matters

— Chatham Harrison dba TRUMP DELENDUS EST (@chathamharrison.bsky.social) August 31, 2025 at 10:20 PM

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As a journalist, I am not going to wildly and irresponsibly theorize what happened with Giuliani.
I am going to wait for it to be reported out because the truth is probably 1000% crazier than anything I could come up with.

— Brian PJ Cronin (@brianpjcronin.bsky.social) August 31, 2025 at 8:19 PM

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Yes:

The police version of the crash, as relayed by a local Manchester reporter, is unsurprisingly quite different from what Giuliani's spokesman says. The whole thing is even more murky now, however.
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— Helen Kennedy (@helenkennedy.bsky.social) August 31, 2025 at 5:57 PM

This sounds to me like the simplest explanation: It was a mundane traffic accident, until the Giuliani genius for unnecessary elaboration came into play. Per the Manchester InkLink:

… Police say that just before 10 p.m. on Saturday, Aug. 30, 2025, Troopers assigned to the Troop B barracks were investigating a reported domestic violence incident on Interstate 93 southbound in Manchester when a two-vehicle crash occurred across from them on the northbound side of the interstate. As a result of the collision, both vehicles went into the median and were heavily damaged.

Troopers and fire personnel, who were at the scene of the first incident, witnessed the collision and quickly crossed the interstate to render aid.

The on-scene investigation determined that a Honda HR-V, driven by Lauren Kemp, 19, of Concord, struck the back of a Ford Bronco, driven by Theodore Goodman, of Michigan. Kemp and Goodman, as well as Giuliani, Goodman’s passenger, suffered non-life-threatening injuries and were taken by ambulance to area hospitals for treatment.

Lanes on both sides of the interstate were closed for approximately one hour while the crash was investigated….

Ted is Rudy’s longtime comms guy/body man

— Anna Bower (@annabower.bsky.social) August 31, 2025 at 6:03 PM

No reason why Giuliani shouldn’t have been returning to NYC from New Hampshire during a holiday weekend (certainly not enough, on its own, to call in Maggie Haberman). There are enough ‘independents’ (libertarians) up there to host a festive gathering, or a ‘conclave’ with a fat honorarium. Getting t-boned by a teenager while both cars are rubbernecking a police stop in the next lane would be mildly embarrassing, but hardly media-worthy, except…

The only thing I have to say about this Rudy Giuliani story is that he was disabarred for aggressively and constantly lying about Trump winning the 2020 election

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— Adam Cohen (My Personal Views Only) (@axidentaliberal.bsky.social) August 31, 2025 at 7:13 PM

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Honestly the way everyone regards Giuliani should be the way everyone regards Trump, but for some reason one of them is borne about in a golden palanquin powered by hate and the other one is Giuliani

— Trung Le Nguyen (@trungles.com) August 31, 2025 at 7:54 PM

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    1. 1.

      XeckyGilchrist

      September 1, 2025 at 12:29 am

      The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy books had the concept of a “reciproversexcluson,” a number defined as being anything other than itself. Similar principle with Giuliani and Trump press releases; the truth is certainly not what they say.

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    2. 2.

      piratedan

      September 1, 2025 at 12:39 am

      all I can say, is that I hope that his seat belt can recover from the experience and continue to be of use to society

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    3. 3.

      Viva BrisVegas

      September 1, 2025 at 12:48 am

      Is this enough for a Nobel Peace Prize?

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    4. 4.

      Melancholy Jaques

      September 1, 2025 at 1:14 am

      It cracks me up that Giuliani put his law license & financial health on the line for that asshole and he just let him go down the drain.

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    5. 5.

      Ruckus

      September 1, 2025 at 1:18 am

      @Melancholy Jaques:

      You didn’t actually expect different did you?

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      toine

      September 1, 2025 at 1:18 am

      How did Rudy’s comms team know the cops were there investigating a domestic violence situation given they were travelling on the opposite side of the highway in a different direction? How did the domestic violence victim get to the other side of the highway to flag down the heroic Giulani? This is insane.

      Best guess…. Giulani refused to pay her what he said he would, she got angry and he left. She called the cops and then chased him down on the highway and smashed into him.

      Always bet on the scummiest thing you could imagine with these guys. At least you’ll be close because normal people can’t even imagine the level of scumminess that is everyday life for people like Giulani.

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    7. 7.

      Matt McIrvin

      September 1, 2025 at 1:30 am

      Fuck, this happened on 93 in Manchester? This craziness needs to stay out of my backyard!

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    8. 8.

      Melancholy Jaques

      September 1, 2025 at 1:44 am

      @Ruckus:

      No, I just find it hilarious. Also, Jenna Ellis, Kenneth Chesebro, and some others that I forgot about.

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    9. 9.

      Gretchen

      September 1, 2025 at 1:45 am

      @toine: I love that the journalist refuses to speculate because the real story will be 1000% crazier. And why does someone who hasn’t held public office for a quarter century require a head of security?

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    10. 10.

      Ten Bears

      September 1, 2025 at 1:48 am

      Different time, different place but never-the-less: “Pray for me, I drive 93!”

      All the bad karma I got I can handle a bit more: I hope he’s miserable …

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    11. 11.

      toine

      September 1, 2025 at 1:48 am

      @Gretchen: truly… it is irresponsible to not speculate… :-)

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      Mai Naem mobile

      September 1, 2025 at 2:16 am

      The Honda HRV is a pretty small car. Unless the woman was driving really fast when she hit the Bronco and the Bronco was sitting still or moving really slowly, I doubt she did much damage. I doubt she was driving that fast if there were police lights flashing on the other side.

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      Marc

      September 1, 2025 at 2:29 am

      As a native Boston driver, I would know to maintain the necessary 10+ MPH over the limit cruise speed while looking at police activity on the other side of the highway.  Only out of staters would slow down to look.

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      SpaceUnit

      September 1, 2025 at 2:30 am

      Sorry but this is Rudy we’re talking about.  Until proven otherwise I’m going to asume this whole incident involves prostitutes, cheap vodka, and farm animals.  And probably several folders full of cash.

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      ascap_scab

      September 1, 2025 at 2:37 am

      Rooodie slowed down to solicit a woman he thought was a hooker. Got rear-ended.  The end.

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      m.j.

      September 1, 2025 at 2:53 am

      In Washington D.C., there is this confluence of organizations. You have ICE, the National Guard, and the local P.D. Since there’s no emergency they probably have a lot of time on their hands, so they might spend a great deal of it talking to each other and sharing. They might be forming bonds, networking, or just hanging out. Social media amplifies this interaction.

      I think it might be an epicenter for something before it becomes history. I’m not sure what.

      I guess I’m saying you might be able to follow it in real-time.

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    17. 17.

      Arthur (lurker, trying posting)

      September 1, 2025 at 3:11 am

      Is this a brand new news trend?

      Injuries endured while trying to save people?

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    18. 18.

      Tehanu

      September 1, 2025 at 3:18 am

      Rudy Giuliani is not dead? Gosh, what a shame.

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      Ramona

      September 1, 2025 at 3:18 am

      @m.j.: I’m convinced that the establishment of the strong social welfare state in the UK after WWII was the result of the solidarity developed among the millions of ordinary men drafted into the war.

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      m.j.

      September 1, 2025 at 3:40 am

      @Ramona:

      Yes. I think a common cause or lack thereof will be the major motivating factor.

      I see factions rather than consensus.

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    21. 21.

      Craig

      September 1, 2025 at 4:06 am

      Eh. One of these days I’ll get to say ‘Good’.

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    22. 22.

      Deputinize America

      September 1, 2025 at 4:10 am

      theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/31/palestine-passport-visa-approval-suspension

      The United States has suspended visa approvals for nearly everyone who holds a Palestinian passport, the New York Times reported on Sunday.

      I know a number of Palestinian Christians with parents, grandparents and siblings living in the West Bank. They used to travel to the US to visit frequently, and this will definitely suck for them – they’re lovely people and don’t deserve this.

      At the risk of being accused of committing an antisemitism, the psychopathic cruelty seems to be the point when you are God’s Chosen People, America’s Bestest Ally and most moral friend.

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      Rusty

      September 1, 2025 at 4:11 am

      @piratedan: This is New Hampshire,  only state without a seat belt law.  Rudy could have been exercising that sacred NH right to be injured or killed by your own stupidity without the interference of those with common sense.  We used to believe in the right to be left alone for other things too, but our “libertarian” right wing state government no poke its nose into everyone’s business, especially if it involves sex or dismantling the public schools.  But we still preserve the right to “Live Free AND Die!” (No motorcycle helmet or gun control laws either)

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    24. 24.

      MobiusKlein

      September 1, 2025 at 4:22 am

      George C Patton, noted racist and WWII general died from a car crash, breaking his neck. Was going out shooting pheasants.

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      Gloria DryGarden

      September 1, 2025 at 4:57 am

      @SpaceUnit: hey did you see we’ve pulled together a last minute Denver meet up for next Sunday. We’d love to meet you, if you can bear to come. And I’d like to know I’m not the only introvert there, if introvert you are.

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      Craig

      September 1, 2025 at 5:00 am

      @MobiusKlein: Patton was a reality TV star. A fake rough riding cavalry man out of his time. He was all Grand Strategy and Napoleon and ancient history. Shaffner and Coppola put together a pretty satirical Patton with George C Scott. Patton is still fighting the last war. Ike sees Omar Bradley as the guy to win the current war. He’s right. Bradley is still the guy. “Amateurs talk strategy. Professionals talk logistics,”

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    27. 27.

      Bruce K in ATH-GR

      September 1, 2025 at 5:52 am

      @Craig: And the most amusing part was that when the Allies were planning D-Day, one of the most critical military operations in all of recorded history, they decided that the best use of Patton was as a distraction. Because the Germans had bought the legend of Patton’s greatness, they thought that an invasion of France without Patton would have to be a feint, that naturally Patton would spearhead the actual invasion with his First United States Army Group (which didn’t even exist, except for some inflatable-pool-toy style tanks and the like).

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      lowtechcyclist

      September 1, 2025 at 6:42 am

      Honestly the way everyone regards Giuliani should be the way everyone regards Trump, but for some reason one of them is borne about in a golden palanquin powered by hate and the other one is Giuliani

      Giuliani was looking like a formidable candidate for 2008, and then Joe Biden’s ‘noun, verb, 9/11’ comment neatly exposed his hollowness. Too bad nobody was able to do the same to Trump.

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    29. 29.

      Baud

      September 1, 2025 at 7:00 am

      @lowtechcyclist:

      Biden did in 2020.

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    30. 30.

      BritinChicago

      September 1, 2025 at 7:27 am

      How come he was driving a vehicle? I thought he’d been successfully sued for much more than he was worth and had had to fork over every dime and all the property he owned. Is that wrong?

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    31. 31.

      Baud

      September 1, 2025 at 7:29 am

      @BritinChicago:

      He wasn’t the driver.

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    32. 32.

      Gvg

      September 1, 2025 at 8:21 am

      @BritinChicago: he negotiated some settlement where he kept a couple of residences I read recently. I think it wasn’t everything he owned, just a lot. He lied of course when he claimed it was everything, most rich men with big judgments against them for lying, claim they can’t afford it (continue lying). But he doesn’t know how to not lie. He also doesn’t know how to live quietly and quit making a fool of himself in the news.

      He could have waited to be asked, then said the car I was a passenger in was rear ended in traffic. There would be nothing to make of that and it would hardly be mentioned.
      He may have lost his driver’s license or stopped driving for age related reasons. I think he has had a driver the last few years. Or maybe it’s a well off New York City thing, and he just isn’t that good at driving himself. Plenty of regular new Yorkers do even own cars, so being driven doesn’t seem surprising to me.

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      Geo Wilcox

      September 1, 2025 at 8:21 am

      @Mai Naem mobile: Little cars can fuck up big cars. My Dodge Ram 2500 truck with a big tow package was totaled by a tiny Honda after it smashed into my rear end at 55 MPH. Bent the damned axle all to pieces.

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      Glidwrith

      September 1, 2025 at 9:19 am

      @Bruce K in ATH-GR: I am a poor history student but heard that Patton was taken off as commander for D-day because he beat the shit out of a soldier who was suffering from PTSD (then known as shell shock).

      The Germans couldn’t believe we would remove such an important commander for that offense and therefore D-day was a feint.

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      Paul in KY

      September 2, 2025 at 10:40 am

      Crap!

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      Geminid

      September 2, 2025 at 11:10 am

      @Glidwrith: Patton didn’t beat the shit out of that soldier in Sicily. He did slap him, and was almost sent home because of it.

      I’m not sure that incident cost Patton leadership of U.S. forces in France though. It certainly did not cost him leadership of Overlord, or at least the D-Day landings. That role was going to British General Montgomery in any case.

      The fact is, Omar Bradley and George Patton each got the jobs they were best suited for. Bradley was First Army Group commander. He directed 2 and later 3 Armies, and was the interface with Montgomery and Eisenhower, who was both men’s superior.

      Patton commanded one of those Armies, the Third Army consistiong 3 to 4 Corps totaling 10 to 12 divisions. He was good at it too, certainly better than his counterpart, First Army commander Courtney Hodges.

      Alan Simpson commanded the 9th U.S. Army that was activated around December 1, 1944. Simpson did pretty well too, once his Army got out from under that idiot Montgomery’s control.

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