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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Late Night Open Thread: Hunter Biden Talks With Jaime Harrison

Late Night Open Thread: Hunter Biden Talks With Jaime Harrison

by Anne Laurie|  July 24, 20251:05 am| 87 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

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Hunter Biden tears up as he reveals something to Jaime Harrison about President Biden's visit to Charleston in 2015 right after the racist massacre at the oldest Black church in the South.
Watch this: ??

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— David Schwartz (@davidschwartz.bsky.social) July 22, 2025 at 12:00 PM

This interview is just over *one* hour, and I’m told includes far fewer f-bombs (different audience, different phrasing, same attitude). Seems to be a certain amount of interest in what the younger Mr. Biden has to say…

Hunter Biden on the Biden-Trump Presidential Debate…
Watch the entire @atourtable.bsky.social interview for more… youtu.be/HVqiWu1fLdg?… or go to aotpodcast.com

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— Jaime Harrison (@jaimeharrison.bsky.social) July 21, 2025 at 1:29 PM

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It really is time for Biden/Harris supporters to start mounting an aggressive unapologetic pushback to all the bullshit being said about the 2024 election.

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) July 22, 2025 at 12:22 AM


At Our Table with Jaime Harrison / Episode 2: Hunter Biden


This is commonly known as "blowing up your spot"

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— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) July 22, 2025 at 6:43 PM

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he is still talking because, unlike chris cillizza, people are interested in what he has to say.

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— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) July 22, 2025 at 3:51 PM

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Hunter Biden's three hour interview pissed off all the right people in the Pundit Industrial Complex, the small minded blowhards and self righteous pen pushers for profit who are currently hollering like hit dogs while thinking they can easily dismiss Hunter by mocking him as a drug addict.

— Ragnarok Lobster (@eclecticbrotha1.bsky.social) July 22, 2025 at 6:08 PM

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I have a dozen friends who are prepared to say exactly the same things as Hunter Biden after dinner if you give them the chance, & they are desperate for a leader who shares their passion & is ready to get in front of the cameras & microphones & fight the good fight.

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— Chatham Harrison dba TRUMP DELENDUS EST (@chathamharrison.bsky.social) July 21, 2025 at 10:16 PM

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  1. 1.

    MobiusKlein

    July 24, 2025 at 1:35 am

    A FYI, the cached home page is back.

    I suspect the CDN is catching the state it was at time X, and that’s what we see

     

    Eta: not every time however.

    Saw on mobile Android and Windows Firefox

  2. 2.

    NotMax

    July 24, 2025 at 1:41 am

    @MobiusKlein

    FSM only knows what’s going to occur when the usual 2 a.m. fustercluck happens.

  3. 3.

    Gretchen

    July 24, 2025 at 1:43 am

    Hunter’s passionate denunciation of Americans being sent to El Salvador and saying we can’t get them back should be in every Dem politician’s notes. I haven’t seen anyone else say it as well

  4. 4.

    Gretchen

    July 24, 2025 at 1:48 am

    And yes, I haven’t forgiven the Pod Saves boys for shiving our candidate because a contested convention or a “fun” mini-primary would have given them easy content. They never thought through how their imagined Johnny Unbeatable would collect money and support to win. Underpants Gnome stuff.

  5. 5.

    NotMax

    July 24, 2025 at 1:52 am

    Y’all see this profile in Olympic class brown noaing?

    House Republicans propose naming Kennedy Center’s opera house after Melania Trump.

  6. 6.

    SpaceUnit

    July 24, 2025 at 1:53 am

    @NotMax:

    We’re all gonna end up back in the 13th century like Ash in The Evil Dead. 

     

    ETA:  Ok, never mind we’re already there.

  7. 7.

    Craig

    July 24, 2025 at 1:59 am

    @Gretchen: the democrats are just so thirsty for Johnny Unbeatable. Run people for Dog Catcher, run people for School Board, run for council, supervisor, state rep, state Senate, run in every district, every town, every city. Howard Dean wasn’t wrong, he was right enough that the Times/Post felt they had to jam a knife into his scream. Run the damn table.

  8. 8.

    NotMax

    July 24, 2025 at 1:59 am

    @SpaceUnit

    Oh crap. Cant rightly recall where I put the jerkin and tights.
    ;

  9. 9.

    SpaceUnit

    July 24, 2025 at 2:04 am

    @NotMax:

    The important thing is the boomstick.

     

    Shop smart, shop S-Mart.

  10. 10.

    Trivia Man

    July 24, 2025 at 2:16 am

    Speaking of truth to power – apparently South Park just dropped a new episode with orange man as saddam. Fresh off a 1.5 billion extension, they are daring paramount to fire them.

  11. 11.

    Craig

    July 24, 2025 at 2:19 am

    @Trivia Man: I met Matt and Trey a couple times in the 90s. They seriously do not give a fuck.

  12. 12.

    Splitting Image

    July 24, 2025 at 2:48 am

    @SpaceUnit:

    We’re all gonna end up back in the 13th century like Ash in The Evil Dead. 

     

    ETA:  Ok, never mind we’re already there.

    On the plus side, the 13th century ended the centuries-long crusading movement and marked the beginning of the long decline of the Church.

    It wouldn’t break my heart if we brought back those parts of the 13th century. Although since we already have the US fighting its own allies, we’re already in the middle of our own Fourth Crusade. As soon as Trump finishes sacking Washington, we can move on to reducing the power of the religious right.

  13. 13.

    Martin

    July 24, 2025 at 2:50 am

    @Trivia Man: That deal is absurd. Though Paramount only lost $100M last quarter which is progress against the $500M they were losing 2 years ago.

  14. 14.

    SpaceUnit

    July 24, 2025 at 3:07 am

    @Splitting Image:

    Progress is only a few millennia away!

  15. 15.

    Betty Cracker

    July 24, 2025 at 4:09 am

    Test

  16. 16.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 5:15 am

    Evan’s comment is why we’ll continue losing. If people aren’t entertained, they don’t care about people.

  17. 17.

    rikyrah

    July 24, 2025 at 5:19 am

    Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

  18. 18.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 5:19 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  19. 19.

    rikyrah

    July 24, 2025 at 5:24 am

    Can’t post in Antarctica post. Getting error message

  20. 20.

    Betty Cracker

    July 24, 2025 at 5:32 am

    Not sure what’s going on with the blog. I emailed WG.

  21. 21.

    p.a.

    July 24, 2025 at 5:40 am

    Not having issues.  iPad, safari, RSS Inoreader

     

    ETA: Went to safari w/o RSS reader and don’t even see this post or OTR🤷🏻

  22. 22.

    Rob

    July 24, 2025 at 5:43 am

    Test (from a lurker). Edit: The Of Budgets And Bad Faith post is the latest one on the home page. I got to this one by finding a more recent post from yesterday in my browser history and going forward to get to this one.

  23. 23.

    satby

    July 24, 2025 at 5:46 am

    @Betty Cracker: @p.a.: corrupted DB, some software update incompatible with older plug-ins or something like that? Between the hosting company server team and the website design guys lots of options to eliminate.

  24. 24.

    Rob

    July 24, 2025 at 5:48 am

    And, I can’t see the Antarctica post at all. I mean, I can get to it from here (double right arrow in the middle of the right side of the page) but once I get there it says Page not found.

  25. 25.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 5:50 am

    @Baud:

    To add, although I enjoyed the clips I saw,  if one of Biden’s granddaughters or Kamala Harris had given that interview like that, I think the reaction would be different, and less positive.

  26. 26.

    Betty Cracker

    July 24, 2025 at 5:52 am

    @satby: As with most technical things, it’s a mystery to me. ;-)

  27. 27.

    satby

    July 24, 2025 at 5:54 am

    @Baud: oh, absolutely. White guys can get away with anger like that which women or any POC could never get away with.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 5:56 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Squirrels are on strike.

  29. 29.

    satby

    July 24, 2025 at 5:56 am

    @Betty Cracker: Well, been out of the field for a long time, but I remember stuff that used to happen. Don’t miss IT at all, miss the salary though 😉

  30. 30.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 6:19 am

    The NYT has declared Trump’s Epstein scandal a conspiracy theory. Click for screenshot

     

     

    NYT is very disappointed in the Democrats for stooping so low as to point out that Republican President is blocking release of files detailing his involvement in notorious pedophilia ring.[image or embed]— David Rothschild (@davmicrot.bsky.social) Jul 24, 2025 at 6:11 AM

  31. 31.

    Shalimar

    July 24, 2025 at 6:21 am

    @NotMax: We’re only a few months away from the John Barron Center for Media Integrity.

  32. 32.

    Princess

    July 24, 2025 at 6:21 am

    @Baud: All that feckless group of wishy washy non voting,  occasional voting, or swing voting Americans on whom the entire fate of the free world rests care about is someone who captures their attention. Charisma, arresting looks, glib talk with a few bold yet vague expressions of values and policies. At base, I think Trump and Mamdani represent the same phenomenon. Actual qualifications are a big minus.

  33. 33.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 6:24 am

    @Princess:

    someone who captures their attention.

     

    I get that is sometimes necessary to get the normies. People commenting about politics on Blue Sky are not normies. They’re still very angry that Dems aren’t entertaining them.

  34. 34.

    Shalimar

    July 24, 2025 at 6:24 am

    @Gretchen: The Pod Saves guys have a long history of being very unenthusiastic about Biden despite having worked with him personally when he was VP, so I assume there are grudges there that we don’t know about.  It wasn’t just pining for good content.  They really do not seem to like him.

  35. 35.

    Suzanne

    July 24, 2025 at 6:34 am

    @Princess:

    All that feckless group of wishy washy non voting,  occasional voting, or swing voting Americans on whom the entire fate of the free world rests care about is someone who captures their attention. Charisma, arresting looks, glib talk with a few bold yet vague expressions of values and policies. At base, I think Trump and Mamdani represent the same phenomenon. Actual qualifications are a big minus.

    Yes, this is the age of celebrity and short attention spans.

    And yes, in a through-a-black-mirror kind of way…. I think Trump is a generational political talent.

  36. 36.

    Aussie Sheila

    July 24, 2025 at 6:42 am

    @Craig:

    You are quite right. I’m not sure how a political party wins important elections if they can’t be bothered to run in every election that affects people’s lives.

    The fixation on Presidential politics and Senate races is understandable at one level. However after the disaster of the 2010 Congressional election I simply fail to understand why State and County Democratic Party apparatus building hasn’t been a priority for at least a decade.

    Investing millions over the last 15 years there would be reaping the rewards about now. There’s no point dropping a billion nine months out from an election.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 6:47 am

    @Aussie Sheila:

    Both large and small donors are motivated by issues and elections, rather than infrastructure. The party doesn’t have a billion to spend except when it’s close to a presidential election

    I believe Martin has started spending money on state parties. I agree it’s important.

  38. 38.

    Betty Cracker

    July 24, 2025 at 6:47 am

    @Princess: Obama in 2008 was both an effective communicator AND qualified for the office he sought, though plenty of folks at the time questioned that. I don’t know enough about Mamdani to judge his qualifications, but unlike Trump, he does have government experience.

  39. 39.

    satby

    July 24, 2025 at 6:48 am

    @Shalimar: I suspect Biden didn’t cater to their inflated sense of their own value.

  40. 40.

    prostratedragon

    July 24, 2025 at 6:48 am

    @Splitting Image:  And some shithead thinking he was cute named an agency “doge,” presumably after his inflated self-image.

  41. 41.

    p.a

    July 24, 2025 at 6:49 am

    Competing everywhere always at all levels is also, of course, a great way to discover talent.  The minor leagues as it were.  The danger comes from the need for $$$ as the talented advance to more expensive statewide races.  Cooption happens.  ActBlue helps, but it hasn’t overcome BigMoneyBoyz Dems yet at the big state & national level I think.

  42. 42.

    satby

    July 24, 2025 at 6:50 am

    @Suzanne: And yes, in a through-a-black-mirror  vengeful mob boss kind of way…. I think Trump is a generational political talent.

    Fixed that for you.

  43. 43.

    Suzanne

    July 24, 2025 at 6:51 am

    @satby: I mean, that’s really the same thing.

  44. 44.

    satby

    July 24, 2025 at 6:56 am

    @Suzanne: well, we can hope he comes to the same end as most of his peers anyway. Very few of which died comfortably in their own beds.

  45. 45.

    Suzanne

    July 24, 2025 at 6:59 am

    @Betty Cracker: Yes this. We’re nerds here, and I think we look back on Obama’s election like people were soberly listening to and weighing the messages from the respective candidates. No way. He was transfixing and fresh and exciting and he built emotional connection with people. It was all so effortless. Mamdani — and I am not making any statement about his positions — clearly has that quality and that talent.

    FFOTUS does, too. He has nothing else good in that desiccated husk of a self, which is the biggest problem.

  46. 46.

    MagdaInBlack

    July 24, 2025 at 7:00 am

    There’s a story over on Raw Story with Epstein’s biographer saying Epstein felt it was trump who dropped the dime on Epstein’s “activities.”  IF true, what’s interesting to me is that our stable genius could not think far enough ahead to see how that call could/would someday come back to bite him in the ass.

    trump: just plain stupid to his core.  But you all knew that.

  47. 47.

    Suzanne

    July 24, 2025 at 7:01 am

    @satby: Mob killings are typically subtle so as not to draw much outside notice. I am personally hoping for something more painful and humiliating for the FFOTUS.

  48. 48.

    prostratedragon

    July 24, 2025 at 7:02 am

    @Shalimar:

    We discussed it night before last. My modest suggestion. Should say “without acid.”

  49. 49.

    Spanky

    July 24, 2025 at 7:06 am

    @Suzanne: Five dildos and a wetsuit?

  50. 50.

    Suzanne

    July 24, 2025 at 7:08 am

    @Spanky: I was thinking more like a catastrophic pants-shitting episode at one of his rallies.

  51. 51.

    Spanky

    July 24, 2025 at 7:14 am

    @Suzanne: Unlikely. I think they’ve got him wrapped up tighter than a toxic waste dump down there.

  52. 52.

    Ohio Mom

    July 24, 2025 at 7:14 am

    @Trivia Man: I can’t believe I want to watch a South Park episode now.

  53. 53.

    Betty Cracker

    July 24, 2025 at 7:15 am

    @Suzanne: Oh man. I’d play that GIF on loop forever.

  54. 54.

    Ohio Mom

    July 24, 2025 at 7:16 am

    @rikyrah: I had to hit “post comment” twice to comment here.

    But only for the first comment I made.

  55. 55.

    drdavechemist

    July 24, 2025 at 7:20 am

    @Suzanne:

    2008 was also the financial crisis and a lot of low information voters were alert enough to blame GWB for that and voted for Obama as the “change” candidate. I recall a canvasser relating a response from that election season along the lines of “I guess I have to vote for the [n word]” from someone who I would bet voted MAGA in at least two of the last three elections, though they might have voted for Biden in 2020 based on assigning blame to Trump for the pandemic.

  56. 56.

    hueyplong

    July 24, 2025 at 7:34 am

    @Betty Cracker: If we can tweak the request slightly, I’d like to see close-up reaction shots of at first disbelieving and then disgusted rallygoers as Trump soils himself in a manner so horrifying that they’re too grossed out to blame Hillary or Obama for the event.

  57. 57.

    satby

    July 24, 2025 at 7:39 am

    @Suzanne: A lot of them died in jail. Just sayin.

  58. 58.

    satby

    July 24, 2025 at 7:46 am

    There was an intriguing article on Blue Sky reprinted from 2019 that said the felon never released his taxes because all the settlements to the families for sexual assault and alleged rapes of minors (both boys and girls) would be disclosed. Not sure how accurate it was, but disclosing his finances has always freaked FFOTUS out. Adding in the allegation that little boys as well as girls were on the menu would really be a bombshell for his cult. Wyden chasing the Epstein finances may help bring that out too.

  59. 59.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 7:50 am

    @satby:

    I don’t know why a legal settlement would appear on a tax return.

  60. 60.

    Kathleen

    July 24, 2025 at 7:51 am

    @Princess: May I come sit next to you? One of my biggest pet peeves. Competence, experience, knowledge, skill and collaboration sank Joe Biden, in addition to his choice of Black woman for VIP. I’m mourning the loss of appreciation for those qualities as much as I mourn what happened to Joe Biden. Is we ungovernable?

  61. 61.

    Kathleen

    July 24, 2025 at 7:53 am

    @satby: The same guys who mauled a cut out of Hillary Clinton.

  62. 62.

    hueyplong

    July 24, 2025 at 7:54 am

    Some legal settlements are tax deductible.  Ones of the type (intentional wrongdoing) written about would not be, but there is a non-zero chance that Trump would go for a deduction anyway.

  63. 63.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 7:57 am

    @hueyplong:

    I’m surprised and thankful that the recent tax cut bill didn’t make settlements of child abuse lawsuits tax deductible.

  64. 64.

    Betty

    July 24, 2025 at 8:01 am

    @MagdaInBlack: This would re-enforce the theory that Trump was a long-time snitch for the NYC FBI and why he was never held accountable for his prior misdeeds and why  they helped tank Hillary’s campaign.

  65. 65.

    Betty

    July 24, 2025 at 8:06 am

    @rikyrah: I am not having a problem with this post, but the Antarctica post isn’t even showing up on my Kindle.

    ETA: now I am seeing two new posts.

  66. 66.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 24, 2025 at 8:10 am

    Who are the PodBros saving?  Good for Hunter, saying the things that need to be said.

  67. 67.

    Soprano2

    July 24, 2025 at 8:10 am

    @Shalimar: I don’t get that sense from them. I listened to their podcast yesterday where they responded to some of the things Hunter said. Their main point was that he never addressed how the voters felt about Biden, which is true. That was a steep hill that I’m not sure he could have overcome. I also think Hunter is not a person who should be talking about other people making bank on their family name. At one point he did admit that he would not have gotten some of the opportunities he got if it weren’t for who his dad was.

  68. 68.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 24, 2025 at 8:12 am

    @Kathleen: They were also seen drooling over Mamdani. The great hope of the left fringe.

  69. 69.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 24, 2025 at 8:14 am

    @Shalimar: Biden didn’t go to the fancy schools they went to. Neither did Kamala. All these fuckers who pretend to be the voice of the poor are trustfund, private school, Ivy League brats.

  70. 70.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 8:16 am

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Yeah, I am sad that we didn’t successfully break the stranglehold of the Ivies.

    Especially now that we see how easily they capitulate to fascism.

  71. 71.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 24, 2025 at 8:17 am

    OT I redid my painting of the Marginal Way Ogunquit ME on better paper and with real watercolors (Daniel Smith and Camel artist grade Watercolors)

  72. 72.

    Baud

    July 24, 2025 at 8:19 am

    @schrodingers_cat:

    I like it. It’s soothing.

  73. 73.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 24, 2025 at 8:20 am

    @Baud: Well the rationales for British occupation of India were provided by Oxford and Cambridge Dons and many philosophers of liberal thought like Mill. So the more things change the more they remain the same.

  74. 74.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 24, 2025 at 8:21 am

    @Baud: Thanks its a long walkway that hugs the Atlantic. It was a lovely walk.

  75. 75.

    Another Scott

    July 24, 2025 at 8:36 am

    @Betty: Clipping the URL to just today:

    balloon-juice.com/2025/07/24/

    at least shows the before-the-fold stuff for today.

    Otherwise, yeah, the site is bonkered in some respects.

    I don’t envy WaterGirl trying to fix this stuff.  :-(

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  76. 76.

    Princess

    July 24, 2025 at 8:45 am

    @Baud: A lot of us on Bluesky (and I regret having to include myself but honesty compels me) spend too much time trying to sound like pundits with pundit-takes.

  77. 77.

    lowtechcyclist

    July 24, 2025 at 8:45 am

    @Spanky:

    Unlikely. I think they’ve got him wrapped up tighter than a toxic waste dump down there.

    Unfortunately, it’s what comes out of his mouth that’s the real toxic waste dump.  As Jesus said (Mark 7:20-23):

    “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”

    That’s our President.

  78. 78.

    waspuppet

    July 24, 2025 at 9:11 am

    @Suzanne: Far too many of our most powerful Democrats think people have a list of seven issues and after each one they write the initials of the candidate whose position most closely resembles theirs and when they get to the bottom they add it up.

    No one actually does this. I don’t even do this.

  79. 79.

    Miss Bianca

    July 24, 2025 at 9:34 am

    This is the last post I can see. I feel like I’ve reached the edge of the world! Even Antarctica (well, the Antarctica post) is beyond that edge!

  80. 80.

    Timill

    July 24, 2025 at 9:42 am

    @Miss Bianca: This is the one beyond Antarctica:

    balloon-juice.com/2025/07/24/trump-epstein-scandal-sweetheart-deal-2-0/

  81. 81.

    TS

    July 24, 2025 at 10:22 am

    @Timill: Thanks – I crashed out after this one, your link works for me

  82. 82.

    tam1MI

    July 24, 2025 at 10:47 am

    @schrodingers_cat: Good for Hunter, saying the things that need to be said.

    Get that man a podcast, Stat! 😊

    It’s long past time we got someone on our side who tells it like it is.

  83. 83.

    Bokonon

    July 24, 2025 at 12:24 pm

    @Craig:Howard Dean wasn’t wrong, he was right enough that the Times/Post felt they had to jam a knife into his scream. Run the damn table.

    You know … as opposed to the Democrats pulling back and letting the GOP be the ones running the table in elections around the country, and also letting the local and state party systems atrophy.  And then wonder what’s going wrong.

  84. 84.

    Paul in KY

    July 24, 2025 at 1:03 pm

    @SpaceUnit: 14th Century was worse…

  85. 85.

    Paul in KY

    July 24, 2025 at 1:09 pm

    @satby: Sometimes you have to do that with people who (metaphorically) buy ink in 50 gallon drums.

  86. 86.

    PJ

    July 24, 2025 at 1:15 pm

    @Soprano2: ​
     How the voters felt about Biden was that they elected him over Donald Trump in 2020. Democratic voters also nominated him for the Presidency in 2024. Unfortunately, because of Democratic “elites” like the Pod Save bros, we didn’t get a chance to vote for Biden to defeat Trump again in 2024.

  87. 87.

    WTFGhost

    July 24, 2025 at 4:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I just think “the former effing governor was willing to take mayor as a consolation prize,” so I think it’s good to question qualifications, but, I think if you know how government works, you can grow into the job, if only because everyone wants *the government* to succeed, even if they’re hoping *you* stumble badly.

    Man, wouldn’t it be great to belong to a country like that, where they all helped with all the official responsibilities (however slanted that help might be!!!), but they would yuk it up if you farted while feasting on Mexican food, because that won’t affect the government, and its governing?

    @Aussie Sheila: Yeah, I am in agreement with you – in fact, I’d say there should be some stipend or sinecure for folks who run in uncompetitive districts, with some approved talking points, but otherwise, go wild, let’s see what works.

    At the very least, there should be campaign funding help, to ensure that no one goes too deeply into debt, running in an uncompetitive district. One problem with that, alas, is some places (Florida, especially) are in media markets where it’s expensive to run. There could be seed money and matching funds and organizational help for running for state senate in Podunk, but it would be hard to make a dent in some of the Florida markets.

    The most frustrating thing about this, though, is, Republicans have the “vote with your big effing fat wallet, and don’t forget who keeps it fatter!!!” vote locked down, so we’re stuck with the people who don’t see it as an investment in future wealth, but instead, and investment in the nation’s future. And, alas, those people are more stingy with their money than the ones who know they’re buying tax cuts.

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