lmao they're going to do it in '27 because it's going to set off a dumpster fire and they don't want to impact midterms with it
— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) August 6, 2025 at 10:21 AM
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"Unlike the left, we don't believe in erasing history" says the guy renaming ships and purging any mention of like the navajo code talkers, tuskegee airmen, black medal of honor winners, etc
— Hemry, Local Bartender (@bartenderhemry.bsky.social) August 6, 2025 at 11:31 AM
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Is there any other country in the world that works this hard to honor traitors?
Not to mention enslavers and losers.— Joe Stieb (@joestieb.bsky.social) August 4, 2025 at 9:51 PM
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Uprooting confederate statues and shipping them to a museum where it could be given proper historical context WAS the compromise position so yes when we get back in the answer is to smash them to bits on Live Television like the Berlin Wall.
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And that reminded me… I’ve been meaning to share this masterful piece of long-form journalism from the Washington Post — “A town tried to heal racial divides. It energized Confederate supporters instead” [gift link]:
EDENTON, N.C. — Confederate supporters arrived first, establishing a Saturday morning base near the town waterfront with “Save our history” signs and Civil War information sheets. Some sported red MAGA hats and shirts that proclaimed “America First,” or, in one case, “If you don’t like Trump then you probably won’t like me and I’m OK with that.”
The opposition showed up about two hours later carrying stark white signs with black letters: “Remove this statue.”
For the next two hours, as they’ve done nearly every Saturday for the past three years, the groups mingled with confused tourists in a seemingly unending fight over a Confederate monument at the heart of this historic town, which is nearly 60 percent Black.
What started as an effort to promote racial unity in Edenton by reconsidering its most prominent downtown symbol has done the opposite. A chapter of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, long extinct locally, sprang to life. The forgotten Confederate Memorial Day was resurrected and commemorated again last month with a wreath-laying and roll call of the rebel dead.
And the town council, which had formed a Human Relations Commission in 2020 to consider steps for racial reconciliation, last fall came up with a novel way to handle the statue of a generic Confederate soldier:
Take it down from the waterfront. Add it to the courthouse.
Facing north, the green-patina figure of the soldier — one of many that were once found throughout the South — stands atop a stone column on a grassy traffic median where the town market once stood. Enslaved people were bought, sold or offered for hire on that spot…
I not only think we should tear down Confederate monuments, but we should replace them monuments to the Union Army with the explicit mention of how virtuous it was to wage war against traitors and slavers.
I will melt down your Stonewall Jackson statue and fashion him into Philip Sheridan.— Stan Oklobdzija (@stano.bsky.social) August 6, 2025 at 2:55 PM
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craigie
SiubhanDuinne
“Woke Lemmings” would be a perfectly cromulent band name.
Jackie
@craigie: You deleted your comment. Thank you.
mrmoshpotato
“woke lemmings”?
Put down the bottle, Kegsbreath!
Ksmiami
Sherman wasn’t allowed to go far enough.
206inKY
Amen to that last post from Stan Oklobdzija. We need more and better Union memorials celebrating their sacrifice against traitorous enslavers.
Also VA Form 40-1330 should not be giving free gravestones to Confederates anymore.
BellyCat
The failure to smash these statues is little different than the failure to prosecute Civil War traitors.
To stamp this shit out, it is time to give no quarter.
NotMax
“All mess halls, commissaries and military facilities will henceforth only use Dixie cups and burn all existing stocks of any other brands no later than Labor Day.”
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eclare
@BellyCat:
Agreed. Here in Memphis we tried to remove a giant statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest using normal procedures. The powers that be in Nashville, aka a bunch of Republican legislators, decided that that was not allowed because “history.” So one night a bunch of workers took it down. I woke up the next morning to the headline.
Job well done.
Msb
Monuments to US Army leaders during the Civil War, Yes! Rather than Sheridan, who spent a lot of his life murdering Native Americans, what about Gen. George Thomas, a Virginian who fought for the Union and later championed the Buffalo Soldiers?
prostratedragon
A phrase for the ages from Erin Thompson: .
Andrya
Curious thing about these guys who want to honor confederate leaders with statues- they never, ever advocate for a statue honoring confederate General James Longstreet. In purely military terms, Longstreet was an exceptionally able general, probably the best confederate general- but he was also a defender of African American rights after the Civil War. (Not enough by today’s standards, but exemplary for the late 19th century.) It’s almost as though post-Civil War national reconciliation wasn’t really the point of the demand for confederate statues….
Andrya
@Msb: Totally agree. Also no statues of Sherman, also big in genocide. In addition to Thomas, I’d nominate US Grant and Joshua Chamberlain.
NotMax
@Andrya
But- but- Jubilation T. Cornpone!
:)
SpaceUnit
Thank God.
For a while there I was worried that we were going to run out of confederate monuments to tear down, light on fire, and deface with spray paint.
Martin
Next time we need to dump these statues in the Indian Ocean next to OBL for the same reasons we dumped his sorry ass out there.
prostratedragon
@Martin: Melt them down. Too many stupid-rich billionaires out there.
Shalimar
There is zero chance that Hegseth will still have that job in 2027. Odds are he won’t make it past October.
sab
@eclare: This is so weird. My grandfather from Pennsylvania lost his oldest uncle fighting for the Union in Virginia. And yet my Republican cousin who moved from Ohio to Tennessee, and her Republican brother who moved from Ohio to Texas are all rah-rah Confederacy because “history.” Their own family history is preserve the Union.
Shalimar
Hell, sculpt a statue of Sheridan and if it’s anything like the real person the Sheridan statue will eliminate the Jackson statue for you.
eclare
@sab:
I had ancestors on both sides, but I was definitely taught a sanitized version of the Civil War in school. As Samuel L. Jackson says in Pulp Fiction, my eyes are wide fucking open.
I am just glad that horrible statue is still down.
mrmoshpotato
Ghouliani’s shitcu** ass is apparently still alive! And Rudy and Dump should throw themselves off the White House roof!
Doug
(Deleted, because the joke won’t land without the picture.)
Baud
I foresee total capitulation.
NotMax
@Baud
Roof of the Grand Kremlin Palace is pretty steep.
Just sayin’.
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NotMax
@NotMax
Forgot linky.
Grand Kremlin Palace.
bjacques
@Baud: That’ll be Putin whispering sweet nothings in Trump’s ear for a face-saving way to walk back the bullshit tariff threats.
Baud
Baud
p.a.
The “heritage” that executed Black Union POWs until Union generals threatened to do the same to traitor POWs?
The “heritage” that kidnapped free Blacks whenever they invaded the north to bring south and sell into slavery?
fuck ’em
US’s biggest strategic racism reserve is biological.
Deputinize America
“The forgotten Confederate Memorial Day was resurrected and commemorated again last month with a wreath-laying and roll call of the rebel dead.”
This should be met with kazoos, mocking laughter, shouts of “good riddance, moron” and other sounds of derision.
Our civility is their weapon.
Baud
Deputinize America
***gigglesnort***
theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/aug/07/former-superman-actor-dean-cain-reveals-hes-becoming-an-ice…
Baud
@Deputinize America:
Steven Seagal went full Russian.
NotMax
@Baud
Good trick, what with the House being
sealed in carboniteshut down by Johnson.Baud
NotMax
@Deputinize America
Not surprising. Cain came out as a full-blown RWNJ some time ago.
Baud
MagdaInBlack
@Baud: Phyllis Schlafly Syndrome
Oh great: reading the article shes a conspiracy loon just like dad.
Princess
@Deputinize America: I read the article. Cain sounds as dumb as a doorknob.
Baud
@NotMax:
I hope ICE puts him in a Superman costume and film him arresting old ladies and kids with cancer.
p.a
@Princess: His tights were too tight. Affects multiple systems.
NotMax
@Baud
That would be enough for Dolt 47 to appoint him Secretary of Defense when Hegseth stumbles off to run for Tennessee governor.
bobbo1
But you are here to support traitors who fought a war against America. What am I missing?
Baud
NotMax
@p.a
Ma Kent: “Nobody’s gonna be looking at your face.”
;)
Baud
Deputinize America
@Baud:
Snake oil all the way down.
”How were we to know that this might happen?”
Baud
@Deputinize America:
“If only someone we didn’t want to own would have warned us.”
Soprano2
@Baud: I guarantee she thinks of herself as an exception to that rule. Susan Faludi said women like this think of themselves as “honorary men”.
mappy!
Epstein files? Let’s rededicate those Southern War of Aggression monuments.
Amazing what crawls out into the daylight when the dog whistle volume is cranked up…
stinger
@Msb:
The Buffalo Soldiers, among other ways they served, played a key role in the Indian Wars, killing and relocating the native people. History is complex.
lowtechcyclist
What isn’t complex is that the Confederate secession was entirely about preserving the enslavement of Black people. The rebels were willing to fight and die for that abominable cause.
Also not complex: statues and memorials are only about history in this way: they’re the history of who we chose to honor, and when, and why. Statues that remain standing are about who we choose to honor in the here and now.
cmorenc
I grew up in a small southern town in NC that was the county seat, and like on many other small-town county seats, had an obelisk monument to the local southern soldiers who died in the Civil War. Until the push to remove the Confederate monuments movement got going, these were regarded by locals as fading relics of a past time, and pretty much ignored by the local population (other than pigeons) rather than celebrated.
I take a contrarian view to most everyone here – in most cases, we should have followed the classic piece of wisdom: “let sleeping dogs lie” wrt monuments, except for a few like the one in Arlington Cemetery. Frankly, the fact that most High School sports teams (which are broadly supported by local communities) became far better post-integration, and parents of students discovered that the world didn’t melt down after all and saw their own white kids accepting black classmates – did far more good to bury the legacy of the old South than the monuments eradication movement, which gave new life to reactionary resentment of ‘outsiders dictating to us” that had been fading away.
bluefoot
@Baud: JFC – crypto in 401k’s? I hope financial types will have non-crypto containing funds.
as far as Confederate monuments and “erasing history” is concerned, we should just as loudly push back on removing mentions of women, Black people, etc from memorials, curricula, etc. It’s all of a piece with “heritage not hate” bullshit. I have nothing but contempt for those who want to celebrate treason in defense of slavery.
And speaking of erasing history, the US Government website had removed parts of the Constitution. That’s some serious Orwellian crap right there.
bluefoot
@cmorenc: let me guess, you’re white. There’s no reason to keep these monuments that celebrate traitors and enslavers and dehumanizing others. If these monuments were truly a “relic” that were considered unremarkable, removing them wouldn’t be a big deal to those who are fighting so hard to keep them.
prostratedragon
@Deputinize America: Very loud African drums.
eclare
@prostratedragon:
Vuvuzuelas.
prostratedragon
@cmorenc: They weren’t sleeping.
Matt McIrvin
Re “erasing history”: a white American who claims to be a “history buff” has a high chance of being some sort of Confederate revanchist obsessed with the Lost Cause. That’s the “history” Hegseth is talking about. Black people’s history doesn’t count unless they’re the imaginary Black Confederates who loved their kind masters.
Remember, the big push to get rid of Confederate monuments happened as a reaction to a white kid with a gun and a boner for Confederate kitsch murdering a bunch of people in a Black church during service. Hegseth would want to make that kid an officer but he’d probably have to fight ICE for him.
Matt McIrvin
@Deputinize America: Dean Cain has been saying this shit for decades–he wants so hard to be “one of the good ones”. Dude, the fact is you don’t look 1000% white and to racist chuds like Stephen Miller y’all look the same.
Paul in KY
@Andrya: With Bragg and Hood, you at least have generals who killed alot of confederate troops.
Paul in KY
@sab: Gee. Wonder why that is…
Scout211
Deleted. Wrong thread.
Miss Bianca
@Baud: that bitch should shut up, get back into the kitchen, and make me a sammich.
trnc
Maga logic, my friend. Maga logic.
lowtechcyclist
@Miss Bianca:
Maybe Dems should show up at her campaign events with signs saying “make me a sammich.” What’s she gonna say?
Anonymous At Work
@Ksmiami: Why all Confederate monuments in Georgia will be torn down and replaced by statues of Sherman or pointing his route from Atlanta to the sea. There’s a nice list of Union officers that served with or under Robert E Lee for replacing those statues and plaques as well.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Ksmiami:
Sherman never went through Alabama. That was a regrettable oversight on his part.
Citizen Alan
@Deputinize America: so he was basically Bizarro Superman the whole time? Or maybe just Ultraman from Earth 3, where are all the superheroes are evil?
dnfree
@Soprano2: I still remember when a fellow math major in college (early 1960s) told me “You think like a man!”. He intended it as a compliment. I told him, “I think like a human being.”
Kayla Rudbek
@prostratedragon:
@Martin: bronze and salt do not play well together en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_disease