I didn’t post last night because I got totally sucked into a show on Apple tv (after I cancelled by Disney account, which you should, too) called Chief of War. It’s the kind of show that was just absolutely built for me- historical fiction about something I know nothing about (mid 1800’s Hawaii), shirtless Jason Momoa (which means all sorts of scantily clad gorgeous women vying for his attention), palace intrigue, battles, etc. This is my crack.
I know nothing about the history of Hawaii, so this means while watching, I can pause and google things and read about the history and read about the things the show mentions, like the use of candlenut oil in rituals, which led me down a candlenut rabbit hole. And same with everything else. By the time I am finished with the show I will be as much an expert on the time period as the google and youtube epidemiologists were during covid.
That’s the way it has always been, though, isn’t it? In the past, we only had books, and plays, music, art, and the oral tradition. Through that, people would share thoughts, ideas, visions, humor, deal with grief and sadness, try to find meaning and understanding. Now we have all the old mediums, as well as the new ones technology afford us. It’s how we share ideas and culture, it’s how we get to know each other and helps shape the lens with which we view the world, and changes who we are and how we think of ourselves and others.
And that, folks, is why the Trump administration and other fascist regimes are so desperate to censor and suppress art and information. Their platform is based on lies, and the easiest way to cut through lies is to mock them, hold the liars in contempt, and provide people with truth and alternatives. And it goes deeper than that- controlling what you say means they want to control what you think, which means they do not view you as a person, but as an obstacle or an enemy.
We can not let them win.
West of the Rockies
We canceled Disney last night. I noted two other BJers who said they did as well yesterday.
WaterGirl
What other streaming is associated with Disney? Seems like maybe Hulu, but I am not sure? Anything else?
Downpuppy
With Hulu, you get to cancel Disney AND Fox.
Paramount/CBS is even deeper into Trumpism.
Netflix seems to still be neutral, but big money media is having a truly disgraceful year.
raven
Don’t know much about the history of Hawaii? White people fucked it up.
Josie
@raven:
We seem to make a habit of that.
Steve in the ATL
@raven:
so just like the histories of the Middle East, Africa, and Latin America?
cain
Yes, it’s time for cancel culture that will make these entertainment companies cry.
Make sure their quarterly earnings drop like a stone. Half this country is still liberal and can still do things that will make companies cry.
Speaking of historical fiction, John – on netflix, they have Warrior. Like you I sometimes like to look things up. The time frame though was around the time they were going to pass Chinese Exclusion act. The Irish were pissed at at the Chinese for being cheap labor. So there is all these politics. It’s super fascinating – of course, copious amounts of sex and nudity since brothels are involved.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: indeed
Jackie
Today The View topics covered yesterday’s congressional hearings with Kash Patel and Susan Monarez. Obviously Jimmy Kimmel was taboo on the ABC program. Those five women should have walked off on live TV, led by Whoopie.
schrodingers_cat
@raven: True about almost any place in the world for the last 400 years or so.
Old School
@WaterGirl:
Yes, Hulu.
I believe the bundling options include Disney, Hulu, National Geographic, and ESPN.
rikyrah
Tim
@trouble_man90
We are in this crisis partly because over the past 10 years, people from across the political spectrum decided that nitpicking democrats to death was more necessary than stopping republicans from destroying everything they touch. Republicans took control of our media, and now they are destroying it.
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Geminid
@raven: James Michener wrote about that in Hawaii.
cain
They aren’t as right aligned, and in fact has been at the forefront of being content geared for non-white audiences. I will be grateful for all the shows/movies across the globe in multiple languages that they produce.
But they know how to outrun their competitors, it’s why they still surviving against the old giants.
MattF
Me too on cancelling Disney. Previously cancelled HBO (or whatever they call it now) because the newer stuff is crap and the older stuff is… old. I’m down to Netflix and Apple.
cain
@Old School: My hulu and netflix is paid for as part of my tmobile account.
zhena gogolia
@rikyrah: Yes.
zhena gogolia
I gave up Disney when they started demanding my birth date. But I really need to access the Hamilton movie next semester. I’m not sure what I’m going to do.
Trollhattan
@raven:
In return they got the sandwich and SPAM.
Great deal, or greatest deal?
DK
I canceled my HULU subscription today. The website said HULU is part of the “Disney family”.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@Downpuppy: Except the Fox that is aligned with Disney no longer has anything to do with Rupert Murdoch’s Fox. In fact, that’s one of the reasons 20th Century Fox is now 20th Century Studios.
Like I said last night, wake me when performative stuff like this is done somewhere where it matters.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@zhena gogolia:
I’d normally recommend buying the DVD/Blu-Ray release second hand, but it doesn’t appear it was given a home media release
Marcopolo
It’s a shame Disney learned nothing from Andor.
As for entertainment, let’s see: Amazon, Paramount, Disney/Hulu all have issues. Who knows, maybe folks will start going to their libraries & picking up books to read. Or listen to. Or movies to watch. Libraries are amazing & I could get behind that.
Baud
Maybe books will make a comeback.
zhena gogolia
@Baud: Don’t hold your breath. We were told that on a survey, students said that if a reading assignment was “over 3 pages” they would use AI.
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
ETA: Disney is the owner of ABC, who silenced Kimmel.
What would you suggest people do instead?
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
Poor Cliff.
ETA: I bet the chatgpt summary of War and Peace would be more than three pages long. They’ll need to use AI for the summary.
Prometheus Shrugged
@Jackie: Or else go into Marshawn Lynch “I’m just here so I don’t get fined” mode. Repeating that mantra for a full hour (or however long the show is) would get some attention.
Baud
@Marcopolo:
Via Reddit, meme.
Jackie
@Prometheus Shrugged: HA! That’d be perfect!
btw, I’m a lifelong Seahawks fan :-)
Trollhattan
Again, somebody is canned after on air saying a thing that is likely true, attracting the ire of the FCC head.
And Kilmeade still has a job and no significant consequences for opining, on air, that the handicapped should be put to death. Still has a job, Fox still has their broadcast licenses.
msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/fox-news-host-kill-homeless-brian-kilmeade-apology-rcna231369
IMO people should be raising holy hell, because apologizing in front of the class after the principal got involved does not erase what he did, to the approval of the two others, all of whom were opining that the Libs need punishment for doing the thing that was actually done by the guy Kimmel accurately described.
Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]
So I’ve (and most of Hawaii) have been watching Chief of War. It’s pretty accurate. some of the dates (the arrival of John Young on the scene was a bit early but he was a real historical character) and locations (The day of Spilled Brains was an actual event but it happened on Maui look up the Olowalu Massacre) Other than that I’ve found only two outright in-accuricies (The cremation in ep 1 Hawaiians would stash the bones on a cliff somewhere the burial in ep 8 is more accurate. Also the women’s dresses are more modern. Women in Hawaii went around topless back then).
If you are more interested in this period of Hawaiian history Here is a great youtube video of the unification of the Hawaiian Islands here: youtube.com/watch?v=yIfgic6W09Y
BTW the season that is up (and I hope there is a 2nd and 3rd season that will be filmend) is just the story of king Kamehameha taking down his elder brother on the island of Hawaii.
Trollhattan
@Jackie:
“I’m all about the action, man.”
Lord I miss that guy. Although, there’s still Politickin’
youtube.com/@PolitickinPodcast
kindness
I had been wanting to get the Paramount deal. Lot of Star Trek that I’ve missed. Then Paramount gave Trump a quickie so they could do their merger and it was like ‘Screw them! No way now’. Too bad as a Trekie but…
VFX Lurker
The better-funded libraries also offer two ad-free streaming services:
Good stuff on both, and they have apps for your phone, tablet, Roku and TV.
Kelly
COVID vax will be available in Oregon after yesterday’s state pharma board meeting. It took us a little while to override the federal vaccine bs due to the way Oregon’s applicable laws were written. We’ll get our shots soon. Statewide Covid 2024 vax uptake was only 20% so there may be a lot of sick folks around here anyway.
Miss Bianca
@Marcopolo: Uh…you know, some of us old fossils already do that. I am utterly dependent on libraries for all my info/entertainment needs.
Elizabelle
@Miss Bianca: I love libraries. Love, love, love them.
Their value is why they have been under assault from the right wing knuckledraggers. . Moms for Liberty. That ilk.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
Disney is still recovering from the huge financial hit they took for standing up to DeSantis. Now the FCC is coming after them. Despite everything, they still have Gay Day at Disney. They still have their DEI program. I can’t expect them to resist all pressure at all times. I won’t cancel my subscription.
JoyceH
Netflix is still politically neutral? Then I have a streaming suggestion for them. You’ve surely noticed how the government is trying to erase memories of our slavery history, and the other day I saw a list of the best miniseries and number one was Roots. Huh. Roots isn’t streaming anywhere and it premiered almost fifty years ago. About time to bring it back, I’d say. It was a huge deal when it first came out. Maybe time for a memory refresh.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Voting would be a start. In every election that matters right down to HOA members where applicable. I know that’s not as sexy as filling out an online form and screenshotting it for social media before sending it off to a company that may read it precisely once before disregarding it forever, but that’s what gets the job done.
Theron Ware
I’m glad I cancelled Disney + months ago because I had several streaming services and wanted to downsize. At the time I was paying $70.00 per month for Hulu and before I quit that service they offered to stream the basic package for only 3.99 monthly so I stayed. We are truly living in dark times. America has always been a rich and powerful nation with a sick society.
Just look at that parking lot
The history podcast Empire has an episode on Hawaii that’s worth listening to.
#167 from 7/10/24.
Nelle
@Marcopolo: When not watching PBS on their Passport for supporters, we occasionally get a few months of Acorn (good for commonwealth shows – we used to live in New Zealand and like what comes out of there and Australia) or Britbox. But a lot of what we like is so far out of the mainstream, that my recommendations probably aren’t pertinent.
Jackie
@Trollhattan:
That podcast looks/sounds intriguing.
Marcopolo
@Miss Bianca: As someone who currently has 6 books out from 2 libraries (and who has a 90+ yr old mom who uses both hoopla & libby), I am well aware. My comment was more broadly & slightly snarkily addressed to the people relying on streaming or broadcast media for entertainment.
Heck, I even joined the friends groups at both my libraries which i highly recommend—the libraries themselves can’t advocate politically but the friends groups do.
Belafon
@rikyrah: Democrats had to be perfect; Republicans got to be evil in the name of Jesus.
Belafon
@Miss Bianca: Dallas is closing one of their big libraries in the most recent budget.
They Call Me Noni
@Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]: It was a whole category on Jeopardy! yesterday and Jason read all the clues.
brendancalling
I was covering for a teacher on Monday, and a couple of the students asked me what I thought of the Charlie Kirk murder, so I told them the truth.
“No one deserves to be murdered,” I said, “but you are under no obligation to pretend Charlie Kirk was someone he wasn’t. Charlie Kirk said horrible things about black people, women, gay people, Jewish people, and just about anyone else who didn’t look and think like he did.”
Then I picked up a mini bobble-head of Bob Ross that was sitting on their regular teacher’s desk. “Y’all know who this is?” Most of them did. “You know how, when people remember Bob Ross, all they mention is the ‘happy pine trees’? Yeah–when you pass away, you want to be remembered like Bob, not like Charlie.”
Hildebrand
@rikyrah: Absolutely bang on.
Miss Bianca
@Marcopolo: *only* 6 books from *only* 2 libraries?! Piker!//
Agreed about the Friends groups. I ought to get off my ass and join our local Friends of the Library. They are very active and do a lot of activities to fund new materials.
Baud
@brendancalling:
Nice.
Bob Ross is popular on Reddit.
Chief Oshkosh
This post is the most eloquent “the dog ate my homework” missive I have ever read, Cole.
Outstanding, young man!
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
Both can be done at the same time. Consumer boycotts have been and can be successful
Miss Bianca
@brendancalling: good response.
SC54HI
@Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]: Agree with your comments.
We (haole olds, living in Hawaiʻi for over 40 years) have been enjoying and appreciating Chief of War for what it is. We also have longtime connections to the local performing arts community here and we are THRILLED to see so many folks we know featured or participating in this high quality production. Yes, the story line diverges from actual history but those who want to know more can find out. The fact that itʻs a Hawaiian language production is a huge thing as well. Really hoping for Seasons 2 & 3.
They Call Me Noni
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I don’t have a Disney subscription but I did promise my great-granddaughter a trip to Disney next year (she’ll be 5 and is in her princess era) and I will not renege on that. She talks about it all the time and I want to watch her experience the wonder of it all. I want her to have those memories.
NutmegAgain
Just regarding Disney+. I had signed up , or rather added it to my Hulu subscription, so I could watch Andor. I’ve just gone to cancel the Disney piece, and big surprise, they’ve gone and made it hard to just tick the box that says “cancel”. So I cancelled the whole damned thing.
Belafon
@Baud: I have a TabloTV device for my digital antenna (recommended if you want to get rid of cable, as it allows you to record and pause live channels, and can be used on multiple devices), and one of the streaming channels it offers is a Bob Ross channel.
Marcopolo
Btw would a front pager please post about the senate Dems ask to keep the gov’t funded. It’s a lot a lot better than what I thought they’d do & much better than the reporting. Some links that aren’t the best but…
thehill.com/homenews/senate/5509187-senate-democrats-propose-funding/
politico.com/live-updates/2025/09/18/congress/democrats-shutdown-negotiations-continuing-resolution-…
Also both House & Senate Ds are now asking FEC head Carr to be fired over Kimmel. Maybe they are listening.
Deputinize America
@They Call Me Noni:
Probably cheaper to take her to Bavaria and show her Neuschwanstein Castle, tell her that its where Cinderella lived….
Marcopolo
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I mean the nice thing about consumer boycotts is they are immediate (and not necessarily performative). We vote with our $$ every time we spend money, every damned day. We only vote when elections are scheduled.
Gin & Tonic
I found the booklet that was given to my in-laws on the occasion of their naturalization 70 years ago. The very first entry on the page listing their rights as American citizens is “I may think as I please.”
Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]
@SC54HI: I think chances are pretty good, it’s been top of the list on apple TV for it’s entire run. Also you can see it on amazon as well.
Melancholy Jaques
@WaterGirl:
I cancelled my Disney+ package of Disney, ESPN+ and Hulu+
Fuck these people. I feel obligated to point out that right-wingers got a company to bow down to them because they gave a trans person a can of beer.
There are over 100 million Disney streaming subscribers in the USA. Every one who oppose that asshole should cancel today. I know, I’m living in a dream world. I’m remembering how the arts coverage and those recipes funded the most impactful smear campaign against Hillary Clinton.
Seriously, fuck those people.
They Call Me Noni
@Deputinize America: Yeah, not gonna be a cheap trip, but she’ll be so excited to finally get there.
Melancholy Jaques
@Jackie:
They know they’re next.
Chief Oshkosh
@Gin & Tonic: That is powerful. Thanks
ETA: Nice little story that involves that booklet:
https://edmon.substack.com/p/notes-of-hope?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
lou
As it happens, Disney+ ran a sponsor ad on Facebook in my feed this am. There were 1K+ comments saying “I stand with Jimmy!” or “I’m cancelling my subscription!” It showed up again later, only Disney had shut down comments. So they’re getting the message.
Besides — or perhaps in lieu of — canceling Disney and Hulu, if your ABC affiliate is Nextstar or Sinclair, call the local station and say you will no longer watch any programming. Also monitor their advertisers and let local ones know that you will not buy from them. It was Nextstar and Sinclair that helped lead to Kimmel’s cancelation.
Melancholy Jaques
@zhena gogolia:
Buy the DVD. If you can’t afford it, I will buy it for you. At the very least, cancel till then. Take action now.
Jackie
Dear lord, I know Obama has SS protection for life, but I hope he trusts them implicitly!
RawStory has an article quoting just a fistful of reactions suggesting violence directed at Obama following his comments regarding Kimmel’s suspension. I can’t link to it directly, but here’s the title:
“‘The dominos are falling Hussein’: Trump fans snap at Obama after Kimmel defense.”
Bulgakov
I was going to recommend Kukui Nut Oil (since you mentioned Candlenut Oil) and then did a google-thing and see that they are the same thing apparently. We saw a kukui nut oil pressing demo in the Waimea Valley, which is a great place on the north side of Oahu to learn about Hawaiian culture.
It is the preferred massage lotion at our house and has lots of other uses.
Gin & Tonic
@Chief Oshkosh: Yes, that’s the booklet!
cain
The irony is that is liberals dropped all their subscriptions, the right would be screaming about cancel culture with no sense of irony.😉
Secondly, I wonder if Trump would just label all as Antifa for doing this.
Kirk
@Deputinize America: Though that would require passing through US customs…
Baud
@Gin & Tonic:
Nominated!
Interesting Name Goes Here
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Let me guess – Target. Meanwhile, 500 other companies that have been subjected to boycotts are still moving right along as if nothing happened. Anheuser-Busch. Amazon. Wal-Mart. Unilever. Microsoft. Sony. Smith & Wesson. Hell, depending on who you ask, Target isn’t even going through it that hard.
You can burn energy on boycotts because of principles and trendiness, or you can burn energy on making sure the situations don’t arise in the first place. I’m tired of fighting for pounds of questionable cures when ounces of guaranteed prevention were right there, staring people in the face.
Kent
ESP
Of course if you are a sports fan and drop ESPN that leaves Fox Sports as your only alternative. Sigh.
Jackie
@Marcopolo:
I doubt it. Carr is one of the authors of Project 2025. FFOTUS’s cajones are being squeezed in a vice grip by him, along with the other authors.
Baud
Jackie
@Melancholy Jaques:
Maybe. But I’d rather they [The View] control their own fate, rather than let ABC cancel them.
Kent
That sled race down a lava flow was the most badass thing I have seen in a long time. Was that real?
Marc
Remember when everyone was cancelling Amazon Prime what, 6 or 7 months ago? I see the problem as follows: Apple, Google, Meta, Microsoft, Amazon, OpenAI, …, none of these companies provide any real benefit to people. They are not there to make our lives better, they don’t employ all that many people (except, in a sense, Amazon), they are there simply to produce billions of dollars in revenue for people we shouldn’t trust. Any of them will throw any of us under the bus any time there is a clear economic advantage to doing so. Right now, the biggest threat and opportunity for them is DJT. Fuck with him, and your revenue stream will be disrupted in a variety of ways large and small. Do what he says, then maybe you lose a few pissed off boycotting liberals, but the majority of your revenue is intact and you may pick a few sweet federal contracts. This is a no-brainer for any of them. I’d say it’s worth our effort to try boycotting the lot of them.
WTFGhost
Random thought: Kirk’s killer might have realized that transfolk aren’t demons, and been unable to deal with the hate Kirk spreads about transfolk.
More so if he was MAGA and felt a personal level of betrayal about the lies and hate Kirk spread.
So too could Trump’s would-be assassin have wanted to end the threat of Trumpism to the Republican Party and America.
Leto
John/everyone else: if you’d like to learn a bit more about Hawaii here’s a suggestion: Aloha Rodeo: Three Hawaiian Cowboys, the World’s Greatest Rodeo, and a Hidden History of the American West
We’re watching that show as well and agree that it’s really good. Definitely high on the recommend list.
Marcopolo
@Interesting Name Goes Here: why not both eyeore? i’ve got the energy to both spend my money strategically & to be engaged in electoral politics.
btw, the target boycott claimed the CEO’s job & their sales have not recovered. investors lost a lot of money, target has tried to turn it around but the brand damage persists. finally, during my life i saw what the boycott of south africa achieved. let’s use all the tools available to us.
Deputinize America
@Kirk:
CBP is still not jumping my ass yet, and I’ve been to Europe twice this year already (last year, I went to Europe twice, Australia three times, South Pacific twice, the Caribbean, etc.)
I was prepared to fight over downloading the contents my phone this year. Sadly, I didn’t get to show my ass.
Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]
@Kent: Yes it is real its called holula sledding Here’s a link: youtube.com/watch?v=nELxl_vuxfc
Deputinize America
dupe
Leto
@Kent:
‘Chief of War’: Jason Momoa Reveals Scariest Part of Filming Traditional Hawaiian Holua Sled Race (VIDEO)
@Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]: I was reading about this time period, and saw that the writers were trying to condense down about 20 years of history into a manageable show. What I really like about this show is that it’s indigenous people telling this story. From the actors to the writers room, and all the rest of the supporting crew, they’re all Pacific Islanders telling their story. It’s really amazing and brings to mind Robert Redford’s hand in bringing Dark Skies to life.
Doug R
Good news JC-Jason Momoa is playing Lobo in the Supergirl movie coming out next summer.
laura
The comments in this post are sadly lacking in discussing how hot Jason Momoa is. I mean, that man is fine as frog’s hair, split down the middle. Personally, I would gladly utilize his sessy six pac to use as a scrub board for my dainties.
Kirk
@Deputinize America: Being fair (and I hate that) I’m going to guess that tagging Americans is extremely rare at this time. I’m basing that on how many (few) reports of such we’re seeing in comparison to the height of the anti-muslim activity of Trump 1.0.
Belafon
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
So, if you don’t prevent something, there’s nothing you can do?
Sorry, but your argument fails on your own data. We have boycotted stuff before. The companies you listed know that, but, as you said, they keep going. Therefore, we must just not do anything.
Belafon
@Jackie: Wouldn’t walking off be complying in advance as well?
Belafon
@Doug R: That one I can buy.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@Marcopolo: One, it’s Eeyore. Two, the Target CEO failed upward – he’s now on the company’s Board of Directors:
Again, depending on who you ask, this move was in the works for longer than this year’s boycott.
Focus on getting people to the polls. That’ll have far more of a long-term effect than actions that most companies have baked in as part of long-term contingency plans.
Deputinize America
@laura:
C’mon Laura, tell us what you REALLY think. 😂
Mrs Deputinize will probably fight you over him, though. She describes him in such a way that decorum mandates that I refrain from posting it here.
Socolofi
I’d love to understand if there are ideas around fast on/off switches rather than the scorched earth plays people are doing now.
Dropping Disney+ isn’t going to get them to change I imagine. And I don’t even think it’ll be noticeable TBH. It feels at best a short-term dopamine hit for doing the right thing, even though if / when there’s some good content, oh well (granted, we’ve all watched WAY too much TV, so maybe being forced to do something else is a good thing. Unless it’s spend more time on social media.)
It feels to me that what Trump has shown is that Republicans can and will do things to hurt companies, so companies bend the knee. Democrats won’t, so companies are free to do whatever regardless of whether it makes Democrats happy or not. End result is companies do what Republicans want.
Maybe for our friends in California, have California actually do something that would get Disney’s attention?
Baud
@Socolofi:
Dems hurt companies all the time. That’s why companies have supported Republicans more.
We just hurt companies for public policy reasons, not to enforce fascism.
PJ
@JoyceH: Netflix does not have a broadcast arm so it is immune to FCC pressure and, as far as I know, is not in any merger talks, so has no need for bribery. Ted Sarandos, head of Netflix, is also married to a black woman and, for a hundred millionaire, has pretty liberal politics. I think he will do whatever it takes to keep making Netflix money, but so far as has shown no inclination to bend the knee to Trump.
Leto
VIdeo – “This is the future of the country. If you’re not paying attention now and doing something about it, you’ll have to sit down the rest of your life because democracy is being taken away.” – JB Pritzker
Craig
@Prometheus Shrugged: that was when I truly gained mad respect and love for Marshawn. ‘ Y’all know why I’m here’
Jackie
@Belafon: They need to start a podcast. I bet it would be great – and uncensored :-D
zhena gogolia
@Baud: Right!
Glidwrith
We canceled Disney too
debit
@Interesting Name Goes Here: thanks for your concern.
I’ll do just fine not giving my money to companies whose actions are actively hurting me.
zhena gogolia
@Melancholy Jaques: Is there a DVD?
zhena gogolia
@Melancholy Jaques: I already cancelled over a year ago. I was considering re-upping in January.
Marcopolo
@Leto: can’t watch on my phone, but Is this where Pritzker joins in on calling for a boycott of Disney/ABC & WGN?
chicagotribune.com/2025/09/18/jb-pritzker-urges-boycott-protest-against-outlets-jimmy-kimmel-wgn-wls…
debit
Missed the edit deadline.
What the fuck, people? Boycott or don’t, cancel or don’t. If you can sleep at night knowing your money is going to support and help pay for the efforts to destroy democracy, rock the fuck on. But stop trying to tell me I shouldn’t bother.
hueyplong
@Deputinize America: OK, Otter.
laura
@Deputinize America: Mrs. Deputize been knew.
Suzanne
@debit: Agree.
I do not understand the need to crap on someone else’s actions as ineffectual. We all have to live with ourselves and sleep at night. That matters.
hueyplong
@Suzanne: Sometimes I wish I could take some of these “ineffectual” actions but I hardly ever have the accounts to cancel.
Old School
@zhena gogolia: There’s a filmed version of Hamilton synched to the soundtrack on YouTube.
But subscribing to Disney+ for a month or two next year probably won’t make of a difference one way or another on the world.
rikyrah
Democracy Docket (@DemocracyDocket) posted at 0:17 PM on Thu, Sep 18, 2025:
NEW: Since taking charge of North Carolina elections, Republicans have appointed prominent election deniers to run state elections. As GOP efforts to control elections intensify, who runs our election boards will be crucial in 2026 and 2028.
t.co/2IkUlc5cJs
(https://x.com/DemocracyDocket/status/1968725992421064786?t=Kvit2JfukZrYfbX4vXc7iA&s=03)
Leto
@Marcopolo: he was on the Jen Psaski show last night essentially talking about how the Trumpov admin is pushing the ball forward on authoritarianism; first by silencing the media/making the complicit, and how they’ll move next. But also saying that NOW is the time to stand up. I’d say more but class is starting!
Chief Oshkosh
@laura: Well if you’re going to go that route, here is the female lead, one of those “scantily clad gorgeous women” that Cole mentioned:
imdb.com/name/nm4578161/mediaviewer/rm38055938/?ref_=nm_ov_ph
rikyrah
Uncle Daddy Wee-Yum (@MrGee54) posted at 10:45 PM on Wed, Sep 17, 2025:
Black folks have been living under fascism in this country since 1609. White folks feeling and now yall waking up. Lol
(x.com/MrGee54/status/1968521701064429874?t=DIakFuihDQwyQ8PdZNjqiQ&s=03)
midwest moderate Independent (@reesetheone1) posted at 11:21 AM on Thu, Sep 18, 2025:
BINGO.
They are getting a TICKLE of black existence on this soil, and they don’t like it.
They have the POWER to stop this.
(x.com/reesetheone1/status/1968712098009014479?t=QZrwoq4MBBai2ROAel_DcQ&s=03)
lou
@Nelle:
Brokenwood? A Beautiful Place to Die? Mystery Road? ;)
rikyrah
Chris Murphy
(@ChrisMurphyCT) posted at 8:15 AM on Thu, Sep 18, 2025:
Let me just say a simple thing.
Democrats have no obligation to provide the votes to fund the destruction of our democracy.
If you want my vote for a bipartisan budget, there need to be protections to stop Trump’s brazen lawlessness.
(https://x.com/ChrisMurphyCT/status/1968665067223744519?t=pZC5SjR4VjbuX0gLCT0idQ&s=03)
rikyrah
John Harwood (@JohnJHarwood) posted at 9:26 AM on Thu, Sep 18, 2025:
why does Brendan Carr act like a middle school punk instead of a grown-man high government official?
(https://x.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1968682974439710806?t=XHyrLQ3a82MH7sBPqaLCXw&s=03)
Suzanne
@hueyplong: I’ve had the same problem with boycotts before.
I’d love to boycott you for your terrible politics, but I’m already boycotting you for sucking!
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Baud: Next time I’m in DC, I’ll pee in a cup and christen that statue.
prostratedragon
@Baud: Where’s Moses when we need him?
lou
@Baud:
Oh ugh.
I thought it was another spoof statue from the Nancy Pelosi’s desk and Trump crushing Lady Liberty people. This is just….
Jager
My cousin’s Hawaiian-born wife is a blend of the Filipino and 4 other Asian bloodlines. Her Filipino great-grandfather was hired by a dumb/unaware white pineapple farmer as contract labor for a round-trip boat ticket and three years of work. When the contract was over, her grandpa and his pal sold their boat tickets, rented a place to live, and went to work on the docks in Honolulu. The farmer had no idea Filipinos were American citizens. Hawaii is an amazing place. By 1940, one out of 3 marriages was interracial. We were invited to a large dinner party last year, and the guests were a living, breathing United Nations. We just bought a retirement condo there.
dr. luba
@Geminid: sarah Vowell wrote a much shorter version of white people destroying Hawaii history in “Unfamiliar Fishes.” Good read, but I love pretty much anything she writes.
Belafon
@rikyrah: My only retort to that is I’m not seeing any Trump voters crying about the loss of personal freedoms yet.
WaterGirl
@debit:
I wanted to see that again!
lowtechcyclist
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
I canceled my Washington Post subscription the other day. Must’ve taken a whole three minutes. Really didn’t burn much of my precious energy.
Other than keeping Trump from being elected in 2024, I’m not sure what you mean by “making sure the situations don’t arise in the first place.” And people here put a whole lot of energy into that, but here we are anyway.
And listen: regardless of what we could or couldn’t have done in the past, WE ARE HERE NOW. We have no DeLorean, we have no Tardis, the past is done, and here and now is the only time and place we can act in.
Please feel free to share your bright ideas of what we could do NOW and in the near-term future that we aren’t doing. But saying we should have done X, Y, or Z to not be in this situation to begin with is really useless. We can’t go back to 2024 and do those things. We’re here now. Brilliant ideas that can be done in the here and now are welcome. Feel free to share.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@rikyrah: Exactly. Whole lot of people fucked around last year and are now finding out good, hard, and without lube, and hoo boy they don’t like it.
My question continues to be – where was everyone’s principles and sense of morality on November 5, 2024 and the days leading up to that?
debit
@WaterGirl: <3
Melancholy Jaques
@zhena gogolia:
Apparently not. Nevertheless, the second option is available and in the event that a DVD is released, my offer stands.
Melancholy Jaques
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
Not enough people, not enough pain.
WTFGhost
And you say that, as if there wouldn’t be a mob-brawl of competition for the privilege!
@Baud: And companies have learned to try to wait out enforcement actions, for when Republicans will settle for pennies on the dollar (assuming Trump doesn’t Ashli Babbitt them a few mill for the horror of being investigated). It’s truly evil to do this, and yet, “everyone does it, and, if we failed to try to do it, we wouldn’t be representing our client’s best interests!”
I’m sorry, do I sound bitter? WTF are you tasting my sounds for anyway? (jk)
@debit: I’ll never tell you, that you shouldn’t. Me, well, I only have cable internet – not cable TV. So cancelling Disney+ means losing a huge source of entertainment, and, I’m severely disabled – if I could read, instead of watch TV while writhing in pain, I’d utilize the free library and try to help it as best as I could. But for me, some of the boycott voices fall flat.
Still: even if it falls flat, I’d never suggest you shouldn’t boycott, and feel pride over it, for your beliefs.
Captain C
@rikyrah: I think that question kind of answers itself.
lowtechcyclist
@Interesting Name Goes Here:
Golly, we never thought of that before!!
Seriously, we should all get to hold you down while WaterGirl hits you over the head again and again.
Interesting Name Goes Here
@lowtechcyclist: Do it. I don’t care. It’ll have about as much effect as your livestreamed Disney+ cancellation session will, and in a matter of week–oh, check that, people are already in the next thread openly wondering whether or not now would be a good time to cancel Kamala Harris again.
Commenting at Balloon Juice since 1937
“This is my crack”
I just pictured you as a plumber.
Dane
@cain: beautifully shot as well, with some great characters. Well worth watching.
JerseyBeard
I, for one, am grateful for the pie filter.
Kayla Rudbek
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: oh, these people are serious and not making fun of Trump? All right then, let’s learn some chemistry: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_disease
2liberal
@laura:
TMI !!