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Democratic Response to Trump 2.0

Not Sure If I’m Channeling Him or He Is Channeling Me (but I could not agree more)

by WaterGirl|  December 30, 202511:24 am| 148 Comments

This post is in: Breathtaking Corruption, Breathtaking Criminality and Lawlessness, Democratic Response to Trump 2.0, Open Threads, Politics

I put this post together on 12/22 but somehow never posted it.  Maybe a flurry of posts from other front-pagers that day, maybe the holidays, who knows?  But it’s still as important, and just as timely today as it was over a week ago.

Rant by Simon Rosenberg

Why are we as a country letting him get away with this?

  • Yesterday Trump and Bondi released less than 1% of the Epstein files despite a clear legal requirement to release everything by midnight last night.
  • They’ve redacted entire documents and covered the faces not of victims, but of the men who committed the crimes.
  • It’s a brazen and shocking f-ck you to the survivors, to Congress, to the American people.
  • It’s also illegal, wildly illegal.
  • It is time now for Congress, and civil society more broadly, to discuss and begin more forcefully confronting Trump’s utter disregard for the law.

Simon Rosenberg makes a suggestion, and I think it’s a good one.

I think one clear, concrete step would be to turn the House Litigation Take Force into a muscular fully staffed bi-cameral project that works closely with the 23 (soon to be 24) Dem state AGs to forge a comprehensive national strategy to counter Trump’s ongoing and destructive assault on our Constitutional order.

It is time now for our leaders to find that higher gear and become the defenders of America – not just the warriors for working people – that the moment demands.

What do you guys think?  What can we do to help make something happen?

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The felon-in-chief’s crime spree started in the very early days of the Administration when they began illegally and unconstitutionally dismantling government agencies and programs, walking away from contracts, firing government employees, and stealing money appropriated for Congress for their own illicit purposes.

Here Rosenberg lists a dozen or more unconstitutional ,un-American, breathtakingly lawless behavior.

  • It’s continued in his walking away from Senate ratified treaties with other nations;
  • taking a billion dollar Qatari airliner for himself;
  • the tearing down of the East Wing and his attempt to build himself a gilded ballroom; the savage assault on the rights and freedoms of people in communities across the country;
  • sending innocent people to foreign gulags;
  • the stealing of the USIP building from Congress, and then naming it after himself;
  • the stealing of private government data about the American people;
  • his attempt to sell out Ukraine and Europe to Putin for direct bribes;
  • the dozens of War Crimes he’s committed in the Caribbean and the Pacific;
  • the hundreds of illegal actions he has taken against the states and private institutions which have been reversed by the courts;
  • the illegal renaming of the Kennedy Center, and his attempt to seize the public golf course adjacent to The Mall for his own venal purposes;
  • the abuse of his pardon power, and the unprecedented corrupt we’ve seen;
  • the levying of illegal tariffs and implementing Mad King “taxation without representation” once again;
  • the ignoring the House subpoena for the Epstein files since July;
  • and now in this outrageous, flagrant violation of the letter and spirit of the law he just signed that required him to release the Epstein files by midnight last night (I’m sure I am leaving something out).

What do you guys think?  What can we do to help make something happen?

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Interesting Read: Inside the Sandwich Guy’s Jury Deliberations

by Anne Laurie|  November 15, 20256:19 pm| 104 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, LGBTQ Rights Are Human Rights, Resistance to Trump

Inside the Sandwich Guy’s Jury Deliberations
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— tommyboy0690.bsky.social (@tommyboy0690.bsky.social) November 12, 2025 at 4:58 PM

Mostly posting this because I’d seen rumors about Dunn’s motivation, but no actual reporting (per the paragraph I’ve highlighted in the extract below.) Ashley Parker, for the Atlantic [gift link]:

The jurors in the case of The United States of America v. The Sandwich Guy (as Sean Charles Dunn is better known) sized one another up before the final group had even been selected, asking, “Did you attend the ‘No Kings’ march?”

“It’s like, You’re damn right I went,” one juror told me, referring to the anti-Trump protests throughout the country last month, including in Washington, D.C. (The juror, who spoke with me several days after she and 11 of her peers found Dunn not guilty of assault, did so anonymously because, as she explained, Donald Trump’s administration is “very vengeful,” and she fears retribution.)

The facts of the incident are ostensibly simple: In the early days of Trump’s militarization of the nation’s capital, Dunn—a 37-year-old Air Force veteran and, at the time, Justice Department employee—screamed at federal officers stationed in a popular nightlife corridor, repeatedly calling them fascists, and then hurled a Subway footlong at a Customs and Border Protection agent, hitting him squarely in the chest. “I did it. I threw a sandwich,” Dunn confessed to law enforcement upon being apprehended—a sort of modern Williams Carlos Williams (“I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox …”) for the more carnivorous, angrier set. Although it was widely reported at the time that the sandwich was salami, Dunn later said it was turkey…

Like nearly everything involving Trump, the episode became polarizing, absurdist, stripped of nuance—a Rorschach test for both one’s politics and one’s life experience. (As someone who in my early 30s lived just off the nightlife corridor near 14th and U Streets where the hoagie histrionics occurred, I initially assumed: Drunk dude, egged on by drunk people, does drunk thing.)

And so, in an escapade to which everyone brought a deeply personal perspective—the government that dubbed Dunn an “example of the Deep State”; the D.C. residents who turned him into a Resistance folk hero memorialized in street art and Halloween costumes; the sandwich thrower himself, whose lawyers portrayed him as unfairly targeted by the Trump administration—the 12 jurors found themselves simply trying to do their jobs, as fairly and impartially as possible.

The juror I spoke with told me that the jury—three men and nine women (roughly an equal mix of Black and white)—included an architect, a professor, an analyst, and some retirees whom she described as probably “100 percent anti-Trump” and protective of their city. She went into the trial thinking it was “bullshit,” she told me, “but I did enter it trying to be objective.”…

The group was careful to avoid politics, she said, and instead focused on several key questions: Had the sandwich actually “exploded all over” CBP agent Gregory Lairmore, as he’d testified? (Specifically, they analyzed—and at times mocked—Lairmore’s claim that “I had mustard and condiments on my uniform, and an onion hanging from my radio antenna that night.”) What was Dunn’s intent in flinging the grinder? And what actually constitutes “bodily harm”?

On the first question, several jury members struggled to stifle laughter as Lairmore expanded on the hoagie’s alleged explosive properties. “It was like, Oh, you poor baby,” the juror told me. But the group observed that photos of the sandwich at the scene showed it fully intact, still in its Subway wrapper. “So how did it explode?” the juror wondered. She said they also discussed the fact that law enforcement had not retrieved or bagged the sandwich as evidence, the way they would have done with an actual weapon, like a gun.

The jurors also debated Dunn’s motivation in transforming his turkey sub into a projectile. Was he just an overgrown toddler, having a tantrum? Would it have been different, they wondered, had he flung a rock, rather than deli meat on a soft baguette? Was this free speech or assault? Did it matter if his goal was to protect a vulnerable community?

Dunn’s lawyers presented a version of this explanation in court: Dunn said he had seen the officers standing outside a gay club, Bunker, that was hosting a “Latin Night.” He worried they were about to stage an immigration raid, so he got in their faces, calling them “racists” and “fascists” and repeatedly bellowing: “SHAME! SHAME!” His goal had been to draw them away from the club. (“I succeeded,” Dunn said, referring to the officers who left their perch in front of the club to swarm him as he ran away.) And the defense had likened Dunn’s act to a harmless “punctuation,” an “exclamation mark at the end of a verbal outburst”—an argument the juror told me that several of her peers found resonant.

But the biggest sticking point was whether Dunn had caused bodily harm. At one point, the jury sent a note, asking how “injury” is different from “bodily harm.” “The definition of injury isn’t just bodily harm—it’s offensive touch—and we struggled with that because we all said we’d be offended if a sandwich hit us, but then this agent was standing with about 14 other agents on the corner of 14th and U, all kitted out,” the juror told me…

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Tuesday Morning Open Thread: One Must Imagine Sisyphus Happy

by Anne Laurie|  November 11, 20256:49 am| 693 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Resistance to Trump

Just to have it all in one place: trump has at this point promised to use the tariff money to give everyone $2000 checks, do a massive farmer bailout, pay down the national debt, and eliminate income tax

— Hemry, Local Bartender (@bartenderhemry.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 2:58 PM

The con is so lazy and disrespectful I almost appreciate it. "I have a magic free money button! You idiots will believe anything!"

— Hemry, Local Bartender (@bartenderhemry.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 2:59 PM

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Genuinely yes you absolutely do need to stop assume your audience takes "seemingly obvious" things for granted in your political analysis! You would be shocked the amount of people who need it spelled out for them. Arguably you, for instance.

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— politiburb (@politiburb.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 12:58 PM

If "of COURSE the gop is the primary author of our collective discontent" is such an obvious truth that it hardly bears saying out loud, how come there isn't a torture devised that could get some of the folks on this website to admit it? Do they all just have that much of an aversion to the obvious?

— politiburb (@politiburb.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 1:01 PM

"yeah yeah the republicans are bad and stuff, BUT TO GET BACK TO THE REAL TARGET OF MY RAGE, CHUCK SCHUMER!" is not a statement made by someone who is actually taking the first clause of it all that seriously.

— politiburb (@politiburb.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 1:03 PM

These people understand that the GOP is bad the same way rebellious teenagers understand that doing drugs is bad. They roll their eyes and mutter along "yeah yeah" at all the lives that have been destroyed, all the while thinking actually they wouldn't mind trying it just for fun

— politiburb (@politiburb.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 1:07 PM

what if we made the whole website out of people who are built different

— Richard R (@richardr.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 2:07 PM

It's the People's Front of Judea bit reenacted without a shred of awareness to near perfection, a truly staggering level of political incompetence, destined to never self correct.

— Eustis Bell (@eustisbellusaf.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 1:07 PM

It can be deeply terrifying to realize you're surrounded by tens of millions of people who want to destroy everything you love, but there are also tens of millions of people who want to fight them! They have a political party that you should want to be a part of!

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— politiburb (@politiburb.bsky.social) November 10, 2025 at 5:48 PM

The Work. Never. Ends. Humanity is (hopefully!!) stuck here forever, and while we're here we have to help each other. And that means fixing broken systems, then our kids fix it again, then their kids fix it again. Looked at cynically, we're all Sisyphus.
But one must imagine Sisyphus happy.

— politiburb (@politiburb.bsky.social) February 14, 2025 at 4:24 PM

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Meanwhile, Trump Take Parades:

The longest federal government shutdown on record is curtailing and outright canceling parades, ceremonies and other events across the U.S. that are normally held to mark Veterans Day.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) November 10, 2025 at 10:00 AM

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More Good News Open Thread: Hero Sandwich Guy Found Not Guilty

by Anne Laurie|  November 6, 20254:50 pm| 226 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Resistance to Trump, Vive La Resistance

NOT GUILTY for Sean Dunn Sandwich Guy. Yessssss.

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— Parkrose Permaculture ❌👑 (@parkroseperma.bsky.social) November 6, 2025 at 3:02 PM

From the DC hometown paper Washingtonian:

Sean Dunn, who will forever be known as Sandwich Guy, was found not guilty of misdemeanor assault by a jury in federal court in DC Thursday.

It was never in doubt that Dunn threw a sandwich at a federal officer at 14th and U streets in August, shouting, “Fuck you! You fucking fascists! Why are you here? I don’t want you in my city!” according to a federal indictment. It’s also undeniable that Dunn’s airborne-footlong protest, video of which went viral, became an unlikely symbol of local resistance to the Trump administration during its crackdown on DC this summer, precisely because of the disconnect between the seriousness of the incident and the government’s response…

[US Attorney for DC Jeanine] Pirro’s office was unable to get a grand jury to OK felony charges against Dunn, though, and proceeded with misdemeanor charges anyway. Despite that embarrassment, the government agreed to Dunn’s attorney’s request for a jury trial in the matter. The trial, which began this week, was suitably absurd, with Customs and Border Patrol Agent Gregory Lairmore, who received the unwanted delivery of Dunn’s dinner, testifying that the sandwich “kind of exploded all over my uniform”—despite photos that showed it still in its wrapper on the ground afterward, prompting jokes like “If the sandwich don’t split, you must acquit.” On Thursday, a DC jury apparently agreed with that formulation.

Sean Dunn, aka DC Sandwich Guy, speaks outside court after his not guilty verdict:
“I am so happy that justice prevails in spite of everything….
“That night I believe I was protecting the rights of immigrants…
Every life matters, no matter where you came from, no matter how you got here…”

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— Dave Jamieson (@jamieson.bsky.social) November 6, 2025 at 3:03 PM

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Remember Harry Dunn? (Probably no relation)…

DC Sandwich guy Sean Dunn has been found not guilty in the felony footlong exploding onion and mustard case!

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— Harry Dunn (@libradunn1.bsky.social) November 6, 2025 at 2:47 PM

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DC’s a tough town for these cases, to be sure, and the first city to be hit by the Trump administration’s armed occupation. Fortunately for the rule of law — unfortunately, for a great many of the government’s victims — Trump has not only continued to send troops to a great many places, but generously shared his actions and his threats on social media, where even the normies can’t miss them. Jordan Rubin, for MSNBC:

… [T]he case of the man who became a folk hero in the nation’s capital follows a D.C. grand jury’s refusal to approve a felony indictment against him — seemingly a much rarer occurrence prior to Donald Trump’s second presidential term.

But this year has featured several such occurrences, in both the grand jury and at trial, in cases involving alleged assaults on law enforcement and the alleged solicitation of violence against Trump himself. Another D.C. jury returned a not guilty verdict in the case of Sidney Reid, whom prosecutors also charged with a misdemeanor assault after grand jurors refused to indict her an incredible three times. A federal jury outside of D.C. in Virginia returned a not guilty verdict in the case of a man alleged to have solicited Trump’s assassination with social media posts…

Ahead of trial, Dunn’s defense lawyers called his prosecution “a blatant abuse of power.” They argued that the government “has chosen to bring a criminal case over conduct so minor it would be comical — were it not for the unmistakable retaliatory motive behind it and the resulting risk to Mr. Dunn.” They noted that he “tossed a sandwich at a fully armed, heavily protected Customs and Border Protection” officer, but they maintained that “that act alone would never have drawn a federal charge. What did was the political speech that accompanied it.”

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BREAKING: Jury is deliberating in the Sean Dunn criminal case, the so-called "salami sandwich" throwing case

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— Scott MacFarlane (@macfarlanenews.bsky.social) November 5, 2025 at 4:44 PM

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Molly Roberts, ‘Senior editor at LawFareMedia.org’, live-microblogged all four days of Dunn’s trial:

I am at the so-called Sandwich Guy’s trial, where Judge Carl Nichols just called the matter “the simplest case in the history of the world.”

— Molly Roberts (@mollyroberts.bsky.social) November 3, 2025 at 9:24 AM

Says on account of this reality the trial will take no more than 2 days, no matter how many witnesses the government calls.

— Molly Roberts (@mollyroberts.bsky.social) November 3, 2025 at 9:28 AM

Day 2 – Day 3 – Day 4

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Officer Lairmore is never gonna live this down…

we have a winner for lamest post traumatic stress disorder

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— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) November 4, 2025 at 10:43 AM


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If the hoagie don't fit, you must acquit.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) November 4, 2025 at 12:05 PM


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That's an alpha warrior war-fighter right there. Get my man a free Punisher tattoo.

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— Jonathan V. Last (@jvl.bsky.social) November 4, 2025 at 1:02 PM


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Per a police source, the Felony Footlong patches (referring to Sandwich Guy Sean C. Dunn) are very real.

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— Martin Austermuhle (@maustermuhle.bsky.social) November 4, 2025 at 7:28 PM

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Don't miss Jeanine Pirro promising Sean Dunn would be sorry in August.
youtu.be/6NR1K2drXk8?…

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— emptywheel (@emptywheel.bsky.social) November 6, 2025 at 3:07 PM

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He sounds like a good guy. I’m glad the jury decided a sandwich throw did not cause “bodily harm” to someone wearing body armor. I hope this puts a stop to any persecution of our Inflatable Frog Army.

— SusanMcT ❌👑 (@susanmct.bsky.social) November 6, 2025 at 3:15 PM

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find the lunch joint in your town that's offering a new hoagie called the Sean Dunn. those are your people

— the Mountain Goats (@themountaingoats.bsky.social) November 6, 2025 at 2:43 PM

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How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

by WaterGirl|  October 25, 202511:50 am| 56 Comments

This post is in: Democratic Response to Trump 2.0, Open Threads, Politics

I think talking about the mental decline of FFOTUS is something we should be doing on a regular basis.  Don’t make it political.

  • I think the President is off his rocker.
  • I don’t know what happened, but he’s just not making sense anymore.
  • I’m kind of worried about the President’s mental health, seems like it’s going downhill.
  • Did you see the President rambling the other day? It seemed like he didn’t even know where he was.
  • I wonder if the strain of the office is getting to him, I heard the president say some crazy stuff yesterday.

Pick one, make up your own, but drop it everywhere you can.

It’s the new “It’s the economy, stupid!”

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No, wait.  It’s Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.

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No, it’s healthcare, and they are killing people with their evil policies.

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No, it the breathtaking lawlessness.

We don’t declare war, we just murder people.  Like, you know, dead.


How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

One thing we can do is come up with “hit and run” statements for all of the categories listed.  Then we can have them at our fingertips to drop, whatever feels most relevant on any given day.

It can be our own little à la carte menu.

 

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After the Protests: What’s Next?

by Anne Laurie|  October 21, 202511:00 am| 258 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Open Threads, Resistance to Trump

There’s a massive Zoom call this Tuesday evening “What’s Next”
www.mobilize.us/nokings/even…

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— Yaga ABBA (@729xhappier.bsky.social) October 19, 2025 at 5:10 PM

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Reminder: We spent YEARS reading thousands and thousands of articles on the Tea Party and how it was a true expression of the American people's will, and it never mounted anything nearly as big as Saturday's No Kings rallies. [1/3]

— Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman.bsky.social) October 19, 2025 at 3:54 PM

The Tea Party's biggest distributed event was on tax day 2009, with 750 modestly attended protests. No Kings had 2,600.
Its biggest single gathering was on 9/12/09 in DC, with somewhere between 75K and a few 100K participants. No Kings had 5-7 million.
So: No Kings dwarfs the Tea Party. [2/3]

— Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman.bsky.social) October 19, 2025 at 3:54 PM

Does that mean it's more *important*? To be determined. The Tea Party mattered mostly because of how it took over the GOP like a toxic virus, driving it to far-right extremism and laying the foundation for Trumpism. We don't yet know what effect No Kings will have on the Democratic Party. [3/3]

— Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman.bsky.social) October 19, 2025 at 3:54 PM

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Paul Krugman, at his SubStack — “Civil Resistance Confronts the Autocracy”:

… I have a theory about the deeper purpose of the MAGA attacks on No Kings Day 2. America, I’d argue, is currently operating in a strange condition — what I would call a “bubble autocracy.” Donald Trump has not yet consolidated anything like absolute political power. But parts of our society — the Republican Party and a number of supposedly independent institutions like, say, CBS — are in effect living inside a bubble in which they operate as if he has. Within that bubble, a cult of personality around Trump has been built, a cult of personality worthy of Kim Jong Un. And to show their fealty to Dear Leader, Republicans must engage in bizarre rhetoric…

I attended Saturday’s No Kings Day march in Manhattan, for several reasons. As a citizen, I felt it was my duty. As a journalist, I wanted to see with my own eyes the mood, and whether there was violence either by or, far more likely, against the protestors. And I was, to be honest, feeling some anxiety about crowd size: a disappointing turnout would have been a significant blow to our chances of saving American democracy. No surprise that Trump attempted to discourage participation by declaring in advance that “I hear that very few people are going to be there,” while his lackeys spouted insane conspiracy theories.

I needn’t have worried. The march I joined was immense. G. Elliott Morris and the independent science newsroom Xylon estimate that 320,000 people protested in New York, and their median estimate is that more than 5 million protested nationwide. As Morris says, Saturday’s events were very likely “the biggest single-day protest since 1970.” Furthermore, the event was completely nonviolent: The New York Police Department reported zero arrests…

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A couple of months ago Henry Farrell had a useful post explaining why people around Trump shower him with ludicrous compliments. Farrell cited work by the political scientist Xavier Marquez, who pointed out that autocracies that build a cult of personality around their leader are subject to “flattery inflation.” Marquez’s examples go all the way back to the Emperor Caligula, but the logic has remained the same over the centuries. (Trump hasn’t yet appointed his favorite horse as consul, but he did make Pete Hegseth secretary of defense war.)…

What I would argue is that a similar process of self-reinforcement applies to telling lies that serve the autocrat’s ego. Call it “mendacity inflation.” Trump insists that he’s overwhelmingly popular and that only a lunatic fringe disapproves of his presidency. Well, to show loyalty his hangers-on must go further, declaring that grandmothers and parents pushing prams down 7th Avenue are illegal aliens and violent criminals. The humiliating absurdity is a feature, not a bug. Simply lying about demonstrators isn’t enough; to prove their MAGA mettle people in Trump’s orbit must tell lies that are grotesque and ridiculous…

And on that point, my second question arises: does it matter whether people are out there marching and carrying signs, even if they number in the millions? Well, there is a solid body of research by political scientists like Erica Chenoweth about the effects of civil resistance — nonviolent shows of opposition to those controlling or attempting to control the government. The clear answer from this research is that demonstrations like No Kings Day can make a big difference. They are a show of the depth and popularity of a movement, reassuring those who are opposed to a nation’s direction that many, many others share that opposition.

Moreover, if a broad cross-section of society is represented in the demonstrations — and the crowds I saw consisted of a mix of seniors, middle-aged liberals, families with children, students and other unthreatening types — they can induce defections from the ruling regime, because the protestors can’t easily be “othered,” portrayed as strange and alien. So protests with a wide base of support can ultimately pierce the regime’s bubble. In fact, in the aftermath of the massive scale and breadth of the demonstrations, the MAGA propaganda machine has gone remarkably quiet, although Mike Johnson has claimed that the demonstrators were all Marxists.

And Trump himself is in denial. ..

What the No Kings Day 2 demonstrations showed me is that we continue to be a great nation, despite how Trump and his minions try to separate, divide, gaslight and intimidate us. Saturday’s marches were a giant step towards taking our country back.

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Dudes who did “Tea Party” cosplay are now like “shut up and bow to your rightful king”.

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) October 20, 2025 at 8:30 PM

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Anne Applebaum, at the Atlantic — “Why Trump Turned to the Sewer” [gift link]:

Lieutenant Colonel Harald Jäger was in charge of a Berlin Wall checkpoint on the evening of November 9, 1989, when a garbled televised press conference convinced thousands of East Berliners that they were allowed to cross into West Germany. People ran to the checkpoint. They started shouting at Jäger, telling him to open the barrier, even though no one had told him about any changes.

Still, “when I saw the masses of East German citizens there, I knew they were in the right,” he told an interviewer, many years later. In another interview, he recalled, “At the moment it became so clear to me … the stupidity, the lack of humanity. I finally said to myself: ‘Kiss my arse. Now I will do what I think is right.’” He opened the barrier and people started walking through…

The differences between the “No Kings” demonstrations that took place across the United States on Saturday and the East German protests 36 years ago are too numerous to list. I saw no riot police at the protest I watched in Washington, D.C. Nor did the demonstrations in the autumn of 1989 feature animal costumes, cute homemade signs, or people dancing the Macarena. But they shared at least one goal: to remind the government’s supporters and enablers that the public is unhappy. The majority of Americans object to President Donald Trump’s politicization of justice, his militarization of ICE, and his usurpation of congressional power. Eventually some of those presidential supporters and enablers might, like Jäger the border guard, be persuaded to side with the majority and help bring this assault on the rule of law to an end.

The people in the White House know this too, and they reacted accordingly. Trump, the successor to George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, posted an AI-created video of himself as a fighter pilot, wearing a crown, flying over an American city, and dumping shit onto American protesters. The point was not subtle: Trump wanted to mock and smear millions of Americans, literally depicting them covered in excrement, precisely so that none of his own supporters would want to join them…

We are just at the very beginning of this familiar, predictable cycle, and we know from the experience of other countries that it can lead in many directions. Protests could fizzle out, as often happens, because mocking, angry, and, in this case, scatological propaganda discourages people from joining them. Or the official reaction to them could turn uglier: Anyone who objects to the Party or the Leader will be described as not really American, not eligible for the rights of a citizen, not really entitled to protest at all. In authoritarian countries, state institutions—tax authorities, regulators, political police—would then begin to pursue them. That isn’t supposed to happen in America, but then, this isn’t an ordinary American political cycle.

Alternatively, the people who showed up on Saturday might be inspired to do more. For years, Americans at protests have been chanting, “This is what democracy looks like.” But the No Kings marches are actually what free speech looks like. Democracy looks different. Democracy requires organized politics, support for candidates, the creation of broad coalitions. Protests can only create enthusiasm, spread goodwill, and inspire people to dedicate time and energy to real political change. And the people who created the sewage video knew that too.

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by Anne Laurie|  October 13, 20255:56 am| 278 Comments

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— paulpro (@mariopro.bsky.social) October 9, 2025 at 9:31 AM


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Pope Leo quotes Hannah Arendt:
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction and the distinction between true and false no longer exist."
www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news…

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— Bill Kristol (@billkristolbulwark.bsky.social) October 12, 2025 at 9:00 AM

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1) I once again take this opportunity to remind you: to keep its basic functioning, society has to discourage baldfaced lying, especially by authorities
2) is…is it happening?

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— Olúf?´mi O. Táíwò (@olufemiotaiwo.bsky.social) October 12, 2025 at 12:25 PM

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Hilarious how mad the press is the shutdown isn’t hurting Dems so they are pivoting to shit on them anyway possible

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— Ben McAdams Memorial Act. but on BlueSky (@purrtah.bsky.social) October 12, 2025 at 12:34 PM

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Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., says he won’t accept a promise of a future vote on ACA subsidies to reopen the government: “Not right now, no. We need a real negotiation and we need a fix. We need this corrected for the American people.”
On @meetthepress.com:

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— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur.bsky.social) October 12, 2025 at 12:26 PM

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dying at rightwingers falling for what looks like an ai generated turning points USA half time show with special guest “measles”

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— onion person (@junlper.beer) October 12, 2025 at 6:31 PM

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