Crazy people out there. Please pick up a phone and ask your Congressperson to support a discharge petition and stop talking crazy about he debt limit. Everything really might depend on it.
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Crazy people out there. Please pick up a phone and ask your Congressperson to support a discharge petition and stop talking crazy about he debt limit. Everything really might depend on it.
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piratedan
do we know yet which five Dems refused to sign the discharge petition? Have heard that Pelosi got all but 5 to sign.
Mike in NC
@piratedan: One would certainly have to be my worthless Blue Dog, McIntyre of NC-7. They did their best to gerrymander him out of office yet he squeaked by. It’s a mystery to me why he never switched parties because he’d have saved a lot of money.
Mark S.
Does this guy have a newsletter? I’d like to subscribe.
FlyingToaster
I don’t have a representative at the moment; the D Primary for MA-05 is next week. The General is in December.
I don’t imagine that either of my Senators (Warren & Markey) will vote for anything that John Boehner likes. heh.
RaflW
I know where Keith Ellison stands. What I need to do is remind people who I know who live in John Klein and Erik Paulsen’s district need to do is call and agitate.
RaflW
@Mark S.:
Wow, I sort-of agree! Market stability post-default is possible.
But the Dow flaccid and listless at about 3,000 would be a bit of a blow, seeing as how it’s just below 15,000 now.
Patrick
I guess every American should default on their mortgage loans this month. After all, according to this teabagging idiot, it will bring more stability to the world markets.
dmsilev
@Mark S.:
True, in the sense that zero is a stable number. That’s like a doctor saying “Well, if I shoot the patient in the head several times it will bring stability to his vital signs”.
Roger Moore
@Mark S.:
I think Rep Yoho suffers from an unbalance of the humors and needs to be bled 8 pints to stabilize his health.
Eric U.
the ultimate stability is the heat death of the universe. That’s akin to what would happen to the world markets if we default on our debt. When we have all been reduced to cannibalism, I will track this guy down and see if he feels that the stability is worth it. And then eat his liver.
beltane
@Mark S.: This is a man who has spent most of his life literally with his head up a horse’s ass, and it shows every time he says something.
Ben Cisco
@Mark S.:Does this guy have
a newsletteraccess to a functioning apothecary? Because if not, he sure needs one.TAPX486
The White House is saying they would accept a short term debt limit increase. I hope this isn’t the first sign of a cave. NOTHING will be gained by a short term extension. The crazies will think they are winning and will only give them more time to add new demands. Giving the rabid dog a few more days will not result in the dog getting better. Hang tough and end it now.
Elizabelle
That’s Ted Yoho, Cow Doctor.
Respect his authoritah.
(WaPost commenter scientist1, on this story:)
Elizabelle
@TAPX486:
I thought that too at first, but wonder if this isn’t playing with Boehner because the White House doesn’t think he’ll be able to get even a short-term extension through.
Maybe they’re trying to underscore how crazy the Republicans in the House are, but I’d think the MSM will report it as Obama blinking first.
Ben Cisco
@TAPX486: They’re yanking the Orange One’s chain – he’d never be able to deliver even this, and they know it.
Cacti
Also too, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce has announced that any GOPer who votes to end the shutdown/raise the debt ceiling will have their financial backing against a primary challenge.
Steeplejack
@Mark S.:
Yes, I believe it’s called Gold Bug Gazette.
Better get your subscription in right away. After about the 17th you won’t be able to use a credit card or cash—just gold.
TAPX486
@Ben Cisco: I hope your right. Just be careful what you wish for (or the trial balloon that you float) ………. .
John O
@TAPX486:
Along the same lines, I’m starting to come around to the idea that we NEED to default, so the consequences are clearer to everyone who doesn’t believe there are any. Lookin’ at you, Dr. Coburn.
Swallow it down, like a jagged little pill…
dr. luba
No point calling. I got gerrymandered into an R district currently represented by a teahadist reindeer herder. He got in because the previous rep got bored with Congress and dropped out after the filing deadline.
Bentivolio will be primaried from the center and will lose. But not soon enough.
Suffern ACE
@Cacti: I think I noted this elsewhere that the Chamber does not donate enough money for anyone to be really afraid of them. The Koch’s pulled together $200M to defund Obamacare just this term. The Chamber has spent $60M in the last election.
No one is going to be voting based on the Chamber’s committment. The Koch’s have bought the party.
celticdragonchick
The woman at Howard Coble’s office hung up on me, but then again, I was rather blunt in my language…
Mnemosyne
@dr. luba:
If teabaggers are constantly calling and bugging my Democratic rep in a blue district of a blue state, you can take a minute to bug your rep from the left.
Send a fax — it only takes a minute and they take it almost as seriously as a phone call or snail mail. Don’t bother with an email, they just delete them.
ETA: Don’t think of it as a chance to change his mind, think of it as a chance to say “I told you so” ahead of time.
ruemara
@Mnemosyne: Yes, this! I don’t understand not doing it because they’re teabagger nutcases. Our loyal opposition does it regardless of who’s in office and the lack of countering voices means they get to stay in the delusional bubble. Prick it, and pop them.
Elie
@John O:
Surely you jest. No — we don’t need to default for the reason you cite. We need the Republicans to become sane and willing to govern as opposed to whatever it is they are doing — Insurrection? I was a bit hysterical about it yesterday, but its still not fully clear to me that they do not intend to wreck the country. Not clear at all. Thus, going into default to show them a lesson would be basically giving them what they want and showing us the lesson. Not cool…
We have no way of knowing what Obama and Boehner know and have as the facts of where this whole thing truly is. We can only speculate. At some point we will go over the cliff or the other side will line up with sanity. When – who knows…
Matt
It is DEFINITELY worth calling, especially if you have a tea party gerrymandered republican representing you. I called my representative (Chris Stewart, UT) who’s about as nutty as they come (he’s basically a Glenn Beck acolyte). After I politely but firmly stated my views I asked the aide on the phone what the general consensus was of the calls he’d received. He said they’d received a LOT of calls, and that most agreed with me: end the shut down, take the silly debt limit threat off the table. If that’s the breakdown in this district, that does not bode well for the tea party. They should worry about getting primaried from the center.
Here’s more details, if anyone cares:
Nobody answered in DC, but Stewart’s Salt Lake City office had a person answering phones. I politely informed them how much I opposed Rep. Stewart’s action towards governance, and stated clearly that I would like him to (a) support (and vote for) a clean CR resolution funding the government, and (b) to stop all talk and action that suggests the US will not pay their bills, i.e., raise the damn debt limit. I made the point that though I disagree with many of Rep. Stewart’s views, I understand he represents my district and likely reflects the consensus views of it (sadly). However, my opposition here was not partisan or ideological, but principled. I emphasized that this would set a horrible precedent undermining good governance, and that this was not the way to legislate. Rather, though I support the ACA, I understand his opposition to it, but stressed that he ought to pursue that through proper legislative means, not hostage taking.