Some of you have been talking about problems with the comments scrolling across the page. According to my tech gurus, there is some sort of javascript issue with IE8. My first instinct is this serves you right for using IE8, but we are working on a fix anyway.
Stay tuned (and patient).
gbear
According to my tech gurus, there is some rjerg;ksfpo’kokrok…(off the page)
Yep. Problems. You got them.
WereBear
Google claims to be bailing on Microsoft. But what do they know?
mr. whipple
It also occurs with Opera.
gbear
It goes off the page after I leave a comment and then goes back to ‘normal’ if I delete my cookies.
I shall now have to delete my cookies again to read other comments.
RSR
I rarely–if ever–use IE (any) for blog reading; definitely had this issue with Opera (10.xx) and perhaps Chrome.
If it’s a java issue, it’s more widespread than just IE8… (Although both PCs do have IE8 on them, so perhaps something from the IE8/java marriage is leaking to the other browsers?)
JGabriel
Open thread?
If there’s ever a Michelle Bachmann movie, or even just a supporting role, I think she should be played by Catherine Keener.
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PeakVT
I’m having problems viewing the site in lynx. Can you work on that, too?
SiubhanDuinne
For the past couple of weeks I have been using the BlackBerry exclusively to read, and occasionally post to, BJ. No probs, I had no idea what y’all had been moaning about. But today I made the mistake of logging on from the PC and OMG, now I see how awful it is! It’s the ‘Berry for me until everyone collectively reports that Things Are Back To Normal.
Corner Stone
I’ve used 3 different browsers. It’s got nothing to do with IE8
RSR
just posted a comment, and the issue did not reappear with Opera 10.53
also, too, the voice “Congratulations, you won” ads are back…
SteveinSC
I know, I know I should be using Firefox, but every time I log on to this site, I get a glimpse, sometimes a note from IE about compatibility problems or some bullshit or another. Then I have to hit the reload button and the site loads properly. Did I ever mention drown Bill Gates along with Cheney and Bush?
Cat Lady
When the unique site hit numbers come in at the end of the year and it’s double last year’s number, it’s me. I’ve had to refresh at least ten times per visit to the site to get the margins to work.
The Dangerman
Never use a browser from a company with an email client called LOOKOUT, er, I mean, Outlook.
scav
I’m feeling deprived. I’m not seeing a thing in Chrome. I do notice I’ve not done the last update to java though.
MTmofo
I have that problem with cross-screen lines.
Windows Vista, IE not 8. Yahoo keeps telling me to update.
Of course, they want me to accept their yahoo centric package. no.
RSR
@RSR:
then, after posting my second comment @ #10, IT DID REAPPEAR (Opera 10.53)
weird
SteveinSC
Holy shit, this site has gone bugfucking crazy at least as seen in IE 8!
mr. whipple
@SteveinSC:
Do not use IE. Or Opera. Or Lynx.
You need the special BJ browser.
BombIranForChrist
While you’re at it, I noticed that it is That Whole Green Paint Iran Thing anniversary over at Sully’s place, so please change all the colors here to green kthxbye.
Thunderlizard
Your first instinct is right.
Chrome is Win.
The Dangerman
@SteveinSC:
At least Bill is doing some good with his Foundation and Gifts (and I wouldn’t waste good water on the other 2).
Vico
Using a Mac here, with Safari and Firefox. No problems.
maus
@Corner Stone: My general issue is the site going down several times a day, no matter what browser :(
@SteveinSC: I’m a little biased in the matter, but I can’t see at all how you would compare them.
MikeBoyScout
Firefox on ubuntu works just fine. :-)
Jenn
Ok, this is hilarious. I’m using IE, and hadn’t had any problems until I came to the “site issues” page, then suddenly, problems galore. Go to another page, and come back, and all is suddenly normal again. Wierd.
Litlebritdifrnt
Meh – it is but a glitch. Meanwhile however, my ancient pooch, Lucky, is sleeping under my feet at the armoire farting like there is no tomorrow. The stench is unbelieveable.
Dave Fud
Agreed on the Chrome. No problems, and didn’t even know there were problems, here.
MS should be kicked to the curb. If I could, their malware, including the OS and all “productivity” software would be removed from my computer. No such luck. Need to learn LaTeX or something.
SteveinSC
The Bill Gates allusion is a bit over-the-top but since I use both Vista/IE and Ubuntu/Firefox I can read what I post. Posts 21, 23, 25 and 26 are all fucked up, e.g., also.
P.S. the pictures of the animals over at HuffPo are heartwrenching beyond words, although I only looked at one full size. I refuse to look at the others, but I know in my gut what they are like. History repeats. As the president of Union 76 said about 40 years ago “What’s all this concern over a few dead birds?”
Perfect Tommy
They say one picture is worth a thousand words.
The 1000 words represented by this picture would only need 4000 letters.
Corner Stone
@maus: some of us would pay for that kind of regularity.
Just sayin’.
D-Chance.
IE9 is on the way…
Platonicspoof
I know the economy’s been gutted, but in the long run it’s cheaper to change the blog’s engine oil every three months, even if we haven’t put 3000 miles on it.
Apparently Valvoline would be a good choice.
The Other Steve
@SteveinSC: Gates I can deal with. At least he doesn’t tell me I can’t watch porn on my computer like Steve Jobs.
maus
@Corner Stone: THE site, not ON site. {sigh}
beltane
Using Firefox and everything’s fine. Maybe I’ll have to try it on Chrome or IE just so as not to feel left out.
mr. whipple
@beltane:
I’m gonna try Netscape.
Elie
I have become expert at using the scroll bar to read comments… I’m getting pretty fast
It only starts to wear with really long comments but I find that it keeps my emotions in check… the shear effort of reading prevents overreaction…I just get a headache after a while
jeffreyw
firefox +noscript + adblocker=no problems with word wrap, but the buttons above the comment box come and go, and the edit comment button usually is kaput. text formatting toolbar fixes the comment button issue. still don’t have edit comment function. the link is there but it takes me to a nonfunctional edit page.
Sirkowski
The bug is plaguing Opera as well. So it’s not just a Microsoft thing.
jeffreyw
in chrome now, all OK
jwb
@jeffreyw: I have firefox and noscript, but have had no problem with the edit button. I’m running on a Mac.
madmommy
Everything’s fine if I’m on FF, but I can’t even get the blog to load on IE7. The header comes up, I can see the top post for a moment, then all the posts disappear and all that’s visible is the header.
Against my better judgment I looked at the bird pictures and now wish I hadn’t. Our esteemed Governor Jindal, faced with a massive ecological disaster and the possible elimination of a huge chunk of the state’s economy, is still an advocate of deep water drilling. I guess you just can’t fix stupid.
jwb
Since we are all complaining and everything, is there anyway you can get the site to load faster on the iTouch/iPhone? It can take several minutes to load a page when the comments get over 100. It’s not an internet problem because I don’t have the same issue with other sites.
scarshapedstar
Have you tried a top kill or a junk shot yet?
The Dangerman
FF and XP here; not any hint of a problem lately.
TooManyJens
Firefox on a Mac, and I haven’t seen any difference.
robertdsc
Safari 4 on both desktop Macs is fine, as is Safari on my iPhone.
MikeJ
I fired up a VM and used ie8 and it looks fine to me. However, it did warn it was loading in compat mode and that I don’t have flash installed.
Kristine
I saw the scrolling issue with IE 6, fwiw.
I know it’s old. Day job relic. Large company. Software upgrades are tasks monumentale. I’m surprised we’re not still using Windows 3.1.
BruceFromOhio
Why IE8 has an audience is a mystery, when FireFox and Safari exist in this world.
(FF on XP and all’s well.)
Corner Stone
@jeffreyw:
This reminds me. Shouldn’t “Silver Surfer” be an entry in UrbanDictionary.com by now for some really fucked up sexual shit?
Wait, I just checked and it is an actual entry but it’s extremely freakin’ lame.
jeffreyw
Hmm…whitelisted bj.com in adblocker, now the comment buttons are back.
Edit to add: yay! edit function is back!
Elie
@madmommy:
No. You can’t fix stupid.
Elie
@scarshapedstar:
LOL!
I made up a new cocktail — “Junkshot” — made up of frozen blueberries or any berry, tequila, lime juice and a little cointreau (or any leftover liqueur in your cabinet). It needs some work but worked pretty well for an ad hoc improv betw my husband and I (mostly I) :-)
Josh
I was a Firefox early adapter, and I can safely say that I’ve never had a problem with it.
I haven’t used IE since IE…5? Anyway, I’ve tried Chrome and Opera and all of the others, and I don’t think they can even come close to Firefox.
You just have to know how to use it.
And I love this Easter Egg:
In the URL box, type “about:robots”
Hilarious.
Corner Stone
@MikeJ:
I am sick to death of the GD flash trying to install every freakin’ refresh.
FYAF!
Martin
@The Other Steve: You’re free to keep lying about that, but lets make sure everyone else knows its a lie.
me
In Windows 7, Firefox is fine, IE[5.5,6,7,8] (i used ietester) all fail to wrap the posts and comments. Debugbar shows IE is applying a “white-space:nowrap” to the container div css style for no reason I can see.
Keith G
Firefox is good for me.
YellowJournalism
I had the problem on IE 7. I have to use Firefox to read the site. I’m using Windows Vista, and there’s no problems as long as the browser is Firefox.
PeakVT
Feeds of the cap or crap operation in the Gulf.
Platonicspoof
@PeakVT:
CNN (west coast) is also running that right now, with Anderson Cooper, pre-empting a documentary.
Ed Marshall
I downloaded a copy of Opera 10 just to check but it runs fine in Linux Mint. I normally run Chrome and there are no problems there or with firefox. If you are an Opera user it might be worth making sure you are up to date on your version.
I was updating computers at work and fucking around with balloon-juice while I did it and IE 6 and 8 were in ruins.
demimondian
@Martin: Perhaps I’m missing something, but I always thought that a lie needed to be false. Given that both parts of Steve’s comment are true, perhaps you’d like to expand upon your statement a bit?
Peter J
Got it on Opera too.
located it to this file
partner.googleadservices.com/gampad/google_ads.js
So, I’ve blocked it for now.
Ed Marshall
Scratch all that, it worked until I posted in Opera until the ad changed and Laura’s ad came up.
Elie
I hope folks have time (and patience to read carefully the high tech lingo) on the posts on The Oil Drum. Incredible insight on what is or may have happened. Yes, much of it is highly technical and requires a great deal of my concentration to get the gist of. That said, its fascinating reading and highly informative not only on the technical aspects of oil drilling, but decision making and command and control in high tech, highly dangerous situations.. I recommend
Corner Stone
@Ed Marshall:
Now you’ve gone and done it.
Ked
Firefox on Ubuntu. The site’s never worked better. Though that’s probably as much the recent Ubuntu upgrade (yay 10.4!) as anything.
Violet
@madmommy:
Oil is a chunk of the economy in Louisiana. So if it gets shut down, then there’s not a lot left after the Gulf economy is destroyed. That might be part of the reason he’s still advocating for it. Where’s the money going to come from without either of those? Mardi Gras can’t support the whole state.
Steeplejack
It’s not a browser problem, or strictly a browser problem. There are too many examples of people using the exact same setup, e.g., Win XP and Firefox, and one person having the margin problem and the other not.
I think it is a problem with a recently introduced WordPress plug-in (or upgrade), possibly combined with the readers’ browser security settings and/or version of Java installed.
Ed Marshall
@68 I’m 10.4 under the hood and Opera is a mess if the Laura W. ad pops up. It seems to be doing something way more than a sidebar ad needs to do anyway.
me
The only signs of the white-space css style I see are in the addtoany css file and javascript so it seems probable the problem is there.
Peter J
@Ed Marshall:
Try this user js script.
mcd410x
@Josh: Early adopter? ;)
With 10 tabs open like I have now, Chrome’s individual .exe’s (11 for 350k total) easily outshine Firefox’s one giant .exe @350k. ymmv
edt: though, obviously either is better than ie
mr. whipple
@Ed Marshall:
I just refreshed from a messed up page w/the Laura ad, to a good page with the Laura ad. Opera 10.53
cat48
Well, Cole, I keep arguing with the tech people & finally gave up and installed Firefox as an alternate browser. No problem w/that so far, but not being tech smart, I shall find a way to screw up FF also,too. Thanks for your effort to correct our problem.
Ed Marshall
@mr. whipple:
I’m giving up, I think I was getting somewhere and that it’s one of the ads (there are a couple and maybe it wasn’t even that particular ad) but something randomly loading on the page is the problem. It’s not java updates or anything else that would change just by refreshing the page.
LikeableInMyOwnWay
Nothing more hilarious than a Word Press site throwing a spear at a software product.
Except maybe a Republican saying “Plug the damn leak.”
Peter J
@Ed Marshall: Take a look at 74.
Ed Marshall
@Peter J:
That does the trick.
Ed Marshall
So it’s google ads that’s fucking everything up.
Josh
@mcd410x:
I have an XPS laptop on steroids, so one giant .exe file is hardly noticed.
I just like the way you can customize Firefox as well. A lot of my favorite geek haunts have plug-ins and themes specifically designed for Firefox.
Yes. Early adopter. I picked up Firefox from the evil Mammon, as foretold in the book of Mozilla, 10th edition.
Let us recite from chapter 11, verse 9:
“Mammon slept. And the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers grew legion. And they proclaimed the times and sacrificed crops unto the fire, with the cunning of foxes. And they built a new world in their own image as promised by the sacred words, and spoke of the beast with their children. Mammon awoke, and lo! it was naught but a follower.”
“about:mozilla”
I just love how much fun and geeked out Firefox is.
BarbF
I am blithely unaware of any problems.
Well, other than that I want to bury Tony Hayward (or whatever the fuck his name is) at the shoreline up to his head. At low tide. Twelve hours ought to do it.
bago
So that powerline post where they try to coin the phrase “birthright citizen”, said with disdain and smug superority. I think we can teabag this meme.
The obvious implication is that the target of this descriptor is inferior because they are only American because they were lucky enough to be born here. The thing is, that’s also true of the powerliners and Erik(Erik)sons of the world. Simply refer to people who use terms like “anchor baby” and “birthright citizens” as “birthright citizens”. Rub their face in the fact that this derogatory term applies to them as well.
Birthright citezen Hindraker has a nice ring to it.
rachel
It’s working fine for me in Opera, except that one in a while I have to click on the “Fit to Width” button to make the text wrap. And then it wraps, so no problem.
ETA: I don’t run Flash on Opera. That might be the difference, too.
MBSS
soylent green is tunch.
Mary G
No problems with Firefox on Win XP and Win 7
Anne Laurie
@Josh:
Maybe you (anybody???) can help with my Firefox problem, then: Twice in the past week, the godsdamned program has decided to ‘disappear’ big chunks of my Bookmarks at random. Stuff stays in the browser history, no problem with the ‘recently added bookmarks’ folder — but when I copy those bookmarked files to my Library, they disappear… sometimes… and sometimes they take other, older bookmarks with them. Any idea what needs to be beaten with a hammer to make this STOP already?
(On the other hand, I haven’t had more than the occasional failure-to-load issue reading Balloon Juice on Firefox, so I suppose I should be grateful. If only I could print out YouTube links, I might settle.)
Allan
Microsoft rules the Universe.
Make your site work with their product or die.
Mark S.
Can we haz open thread?
Platonicspoof
@Anne Laurie:
Hi Anne,
Sorry I can’t help you with your bookmarks. But maybe you can help get a comment of mine out of moderation?
I also attracted Bad Behavior’s attention (maybe with a lot of refreshes?).
Thanks.
@Mark S.:
John tagged this post ‘Open Thread’ .
asiangrrlMN
Google Chrome. No problems. Knock on the damn wood.
Ailuridae
@asiangrrlMN:
Same. Rachel made me cry today. For several minutes. You should all watch it when you have a chance. Easily the best hour of TV she has ever done.
tokyo ex-pat
I had the problem and asked for help in one of the open threads. I didn’t realize so many others were also having the same problem. I took the advice of several and installed Firefox. I’ve got FF on an XP netbook and all is fine. I’m just happy to be able to read posts and comments again.
Ailuridae
@Mark S.:
This is an open thread, kiddo.
Ailuridae + X
asiangrrlMN
@Ailuridae: Oh, I haven’t seen today’s yet. I will watch.
Platonicspoof
@tokyo ex-pat:
This may be the third version of the same comment popping in and out of existence in a WP universe.
To Peter J at comment 65:
Thanks! That seems to be the problem for me; I’m using IE 8 and XP SP2.
I went through IE properties, Security tab, Restricted sites zone, Sites button, and added the address at comment 65 to the zone.
Then I refreshed this page ten times-no runaway text.
Went back and removed the googleads address from the Restricted zone, refreshed six times-runaway text three times out of six.
Added the googleads address back to the Restricted zone, and the text has been in the right place every time for this page and for a few other BJ posts.
Napoleon
Thank you.
PeakVT
@Anne Laurie: Firefox makes backups of your bookmarks. On my computer they are located in “C:\Documents and Settings\myusername\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\jychurei.default\bookmarkbackups” and the oldest is from 5/26. Check that folder (or something similar) and if there is one old enough, track down how to restore one on Google.
les
testing edit function w/ ad blocker disabled.
les
@les:
Drat.
mhanch
Here are the errors that I see regularly. Looks like a bad advert coming in, and an unreferenced object in an IE specific script.
Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; InfoPath.3; MS-RTC LM 8; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)
Timestamp: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:03:25 UTC
Message: Object expected
Line: 335
Char: 8
Code: 0
URI: change.org/widget_flash/PetitionScroller/change_embed.js
Message: ‘document.getElementById(…)’ is null or not an object
Line: 2
Char: 5
Code: 0
URI: balloon-juice.com/wp-content/themes/balloon-juice/ie6sux.js
redactor
In IE8, next to the address bar is a button that looks like a page ripped in half. Click that; it’s something called “compatibility mode,” and it makes sites that otherwise look weird look normal again.
Most of the time when I open BJ, IE8 tells me that it encountered a problem and is now running in compatibility mode. This does not happen every time, but clicking the compatibility mode button always fixes whatever problems there are.