John Roberts apparently has an op-ed in the Times scolding everyone for being very, very mean to the judiciary. I didn’t read it — instead I just searched Google for “wank motion gif” and got the gist of it.
I really hate this fucker, for many reasons, which I’ll list a few below, with illustrations.
Johnny still thinks he’s this year’s model, but unfortunately he’s an old album nobody wants to listen to, if they ever did. He’s the Bush/Reagan era conservative justice, something that’s outlived its sell-by date. There is no need for a Harvard Law graduate with all the right clerkships and prissy, hair-splitting opinions anymore — the mask is off, and there will never be a pretend-to-be-normie nominated to the Supremes by a Republican in my lifetime. No more tedious repetition of “stare decisis” in Senate hearings — the Republicans grabbed Pa’s shotgun, took ol’ starry out to the back 40 and shot it in the head, cuz it don’t hunt no good no more.
To the MAGAts, this how they see Johnny, some uptight asshole trying to explain the moderate and conventional view of sex, except he’s doing it in front of them at a swingers convention, where everyone just wants to fuuuucck. That’s your party, now, Johnny, except they don’t want you. They’ve gotten the real deal — Thomas, Alito et al. You were a useful tool getting to that point, but now you’ve outlived your usefulness, adios.
Yep, that’s you on the right, Fredo in a pink suit sipping banana daiquiris. I’m sure you think you’re the guy on the left, which is worth at least a mordant chuckle from me. You know who else hates you besides every MAGAt on earth? Every fucking lawyer who invested time and effort into the study of constitutional law. You screwed them all, hard. You’re running a court where all the constitutional law scholarship of the modern era might as well be hanging in the toilets so the justices and clerks can literally wipe their asses with it, since they’ve been doing it figuratively for quite a while. You broke it. It’s over. I’m sure there’s a new crew of Federalist Society numpties ready to take the place of the current flock of constitutional “scholars”, but, guess what, they hate you, too. You and your kind, who are slowly receding from the earth, are the types that would pick apart a ruling by Federalist “Scholars” like Aileen Cannon, who knows in her heart that she should just make up shit to cover MAGAs ass. She knows her job — you don’t.
Finally, as for writing in the New York Times, read the fucking room for once, JFC. Even the East Coast liberals who used to gobble up scoldings from the likes of you and David Brooks are tired of that shit. Many of them have cancelled their subscriptions, and a lot of the rest of them hate-read it (just look at the Bluesky reaction to your op-ed).
Anyway, Happy New Year to you Johnny. You’ll go down in history as the worst Chief Justice of the modern era, and probably the worst ever, since I’m guessing Roger Taney didn’t take to the pages of the Times to whine about the reaction to Dred Scott.
Elizabelle
Yup. I didn’t read it, either. How dare Roger B. Taney Roberts scold us. “Resssspect mah authoritay.”
Always up for seeing Elvis Costello though. Pump it up.
Baud
He should have posted on substance.
Anyway, we’ll see how he reacts if he bothers to tell Trump no and Trump ignores him.
Snarki, child of Loki
The Supremely Deplorable Six:
John “lawless” Roberts
Strip Search Sammy
Token
Boof
Squi
Coathanger
Raoul Paste
The last time we saw Costello, he ended his show with “What’s so Funny About Peace, Love and Understanding?”
Kay
We should make more fun of the Right for how unbearably whiny and needy they are. It’s not enough that they’re wildly powerful and behave like authoritarians. They also demand we love them.
No. I won’t. They’re not entitled to deference and respect and admiration. That’s earned.
The far Right Supreme Court may rise in the publics estimation when they start fucking EARNING it. Not before. No matter how much they petulantly demand we admire them.
Roberts waltzed in there will all the credibility justices on that court had banked over decades and pissed all of it away. If he wants it back he’ll have to earn it. He cleaned out the credibility account he inherited. Spend all of it and saved nothing. Now he’s broke. Good. That’s what’s supposed to happen.
Baud
@Baud:
In fairness to Roberts, the NYT will eat this up. Liberals should expect to be scolded by them often in 2025.
narya
@Raoul Paste: One of the times I saw him was on a bill with Bob Dylan (!)–someone else opened, then Elvis, then Bob, then Bob and Elvis did a few songs, IIRC. It was near the end of the tour, so Bob’s voice was even more shot than usual.
narya
@Baud: What’s that expression? Oh, yeah: Fuck the Fucking New York Fucking Times. If a newspaper scolds me but I no longer read that newspaper . . .
mvr
@Raoul Paste: He often does, because I think everyone (at least everyone at the show) likes it.
Got tickets for July 1 in KCMO this summer. Looking forward to it. Tour is focused on his albums up to Blood and Chocolate. Which is actually a lot of albums but only from his first decade or so. BTW, This Year’s Model is one fine album!
scav
Dressing up as a choir boy while driving the getaway car won’t get you redemption sweetie, especially when your next move is flashing some marked bills to get past St Peter. Reputation and legacy accomplished.
mvr
@narya: That would have been a treat, to see them sing together.
Scout211
The joke writes itself but I’ll play along: Tell us how you really feel, mistermix. LOL
I concur, wholeheartedly. He allowed his Federalist Society majority to let Trump off the rule of law hook so now he wants us to respect their rulings. Ha fucking ha!
Melancholy Jaques
Startling how much of our current political misery comes out of the 2000 election.
Scout211
oh yeah, that too!
Kay
Go watch any of them when they’re stumping for the GOP on those lavish junkets they accept as gifts. Alito is fucking FURIOUS. He hates us. So is Thomas. Comey-Barrett, as befits a tradwife, is instead sorrowful and disappointed that Americans rank her work product as low quality junk.
Entitlement all the way down. Spoiled, petulant babies who won’t accept the consequences of their actions. Also, and I know this is old fashioned, but what happened to “the court speaks thru their opinions”? Now we’re supposed to ignore their actual legal opinions and instead believe their own inflated opinions of themselves?
They’re being judged on THEIR WORK. They get bad grades. Now they’re demanding we give them unearned As. I won’t.
narya
@mvr: It was! Back when I was still willing to pay to see live music AND I had someone to go with, we went to a lot of concerts. We just don’t do that much any more–ticket prices are stupid, and we’ve both seen a lot, so the appeal has become more limited. Another thing that has turned me off is audience members who are more interested in getting another (overpriced!) beer than actually paying attention to the entertainment.
narya
@Kay: Honestly, their tears give me great joy. They DEMAND RESPECT, but it turns out we do not, in fact, have to give it to them, no matter how pissy they get about it.
@mistermix.bsky.social
@Scout211:
I really dislike Roberts specifically, in a way that isn’t that same as my dislike of, say, Trump.
Roberts has the stench of the faux naive collaborator. “Oh, I didn’t really know that the suitcase I made my wife carry on the plane had a bomb in it — and I missed the flight because I had to work late.” I hate that more than someone who at least is honest about what they are.
TONYG
@Scout211: Roberts is the old-fashioned type of right-wing judge who wants people to at least pretend to respect him. The other members of the majority of the Supremos don’t care about that. They just want money and power, period.
pat
Well said. I couldn’t believe that he would write such a thing, now for pete’s sake, in the FTFNYT.
Talk about tone-deaf.
Ohio Mom
Speaking of the Times, I just finished reading their article on the eulogy Mondale wrote for Carter but never gave, since Mondale died first. Mondale’s son will deliver it.
I was struck by this:
“Toward the end of their time in office, Mr. Mondale said he and Mr. Carter talked about how they wanted their tenure to be remembered. “We came up with this sentence, which to me remains an important summary of what we were trying to do: ‘We told the truth, we obeyed the law, and we kept the peace.”
At first glance, that seems a low bar, being honest, law-biding and keeping the peace. But now it looks prescient because those are three things our president-elect did not do in his first term, and we don’t expect him to do in his second term either.
trollhattan
@@mistermix.bsky.social:
Judge Balls ‘N Strikes uses a meter-wide strike zone whenever Republicans are pitching; a centimeter when a Dem is on the mound.
As the Founders intended, because rounders.
Each of these sinful six lies whenever they utter their fealty to “stare decisis.” Not helpful that the Senate is in on the game.
Glory b
Which east coast liberals are those?
Who gobbled up scoldings from him?
John S.
Johnny “Balls and Strikes” Roberts is the umpire who has been paid off to deliver a particular result for the bookies who he is indebted to and hold his family hostage.
May he be flushed down the toilet of history sooner than later.
different-church-lady
Jesus… cigarettes for everyone!
Baud
@John S.:
Prefer later in the hopes that a Dem can replace him.
Villago Delenda Est
If (very big if) the Roberts court was not corrupt and partisan, John wouldn’t have to worry about people defying his orders.
Ban the Federalist Society.
Booger
I keep thinking Dred Scott and John Roberts and get Dred Scott Roberts…from “Princess Bride II: More Inconceivable!!”
Villago Delenda Est
@Melancholy Jaques: Hell, the 1980 election. The shitty grade Z movie star set this all up. The convicted felon is just one of the logical outcomes of the disrespect for the law of the 80s.
pajaro
Dear Mister Mix,
I love your post so much I want to treat it for dinner. Thank you.
Kay
Roberts should relax. Voters are poorly informed and they have a low quality media. Standards for SCOTUS will slip and no one will even remember when they weren’t corrupt hacks. Standards don’t just stay high by themselves. You have to have people who insist on them and then people who meet them.
Look at how low the standards for a US President dropped in less than ten years. Hard to bring up but easy to lower.
marklar
Link to the op-ed please? I’ve searched the Times and found an article by Adam Liptak discussing Roberts’ ‘end of the year report’, but can’t seem to find anything that he wrote in the last few days.
Thanks.
BellyCat
If he shot himself before Jan 20th, Uncle Joe could surely name his replacement while citing Georgia’s laws, right? //
wonkie
He accepts fellow SC members openly accepting bribes, too. Nope, no credibility, no moral high ground, nothing.
Suzanne
@Snarki, child of Loki:
Aren’t these the same guy? I mean, I refer to him as Squi’s Homie, but Boof also works.
Roberts is a contemptible piece of shit.
Kay
When Elon Musk’s mother is installed on the court Roberts will look like a Respected Jurist.
DROP that bar to sub basement! That’s what media and the Right are now engaged in. How low can they go?
cain
@Kay:
Meritocracy bitches !
Jeffro
poor John Roberts…he sold his soul for the noblest of reasons dontchaknow, and ended up with a MAGA shit sandwich
all that hard work and lofty intentions, and he’s just another trained monkey in the trumpov grift machine
#ETTD, Johnny…#ETTD
Quinerly
@Raoul Paste:
I’m a big fan of Nick Lowe. So I am partial to his versions. So under appreciated. He wrote the song 50 years ago. I did see Costello years ago at NOLA Jazz Fest. He closed out his show with it. I believe Lowe does it in all of his shows….at least he did the 3 times I saw him.
Fun background info:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/(What%27s_So_Funny_%27Bout)_Peace,_Love,_and_Understanding
Lowe’s studio album 10 plus years ago…”The Old Magic” was top notch. He’s such a great song writer. My favorite off of that album is “Stop Light Roses.” He also covers one old Tom T. Hall song and one old Costello song.
Suzanne
@narya:
Come sit by me, friend.
Pointing-and-laughing at GOP clowns is part of my 2025 coping strategy.
Another Scott
Roberts has a history of seizures. It has nothing to do with the way he thinks about the rule of law, and how it applies differently to those with power and those without, probably.
But it sometimes makes me think about alternative histories….
CLARENCE:
:-/
Grr…
Best wishes,
Scott.
scav
@Jeffro: He’s just bitter that he’s a trained monkey while the current crop of preferred monkeys are free-styling it without GEDs.
Kay
@narya:
I just can’t imagine being in a job where I get bad reviews and my response is to go on a whine-tour that never ends. It’s not just Robert’s. They all wag their fingers at the public in response to their tanking reputation.
Has he thought about whether it’s HIS WORK? Who raises these fucking brats?
My husband went to the same boarding school as John Roberts – it’s for rich midwesterners – and he is absolutely brutal when assessing his own work as a lawyer. Much harsher than anyone else. But he had decent parents with values.
different-church-lady
Oh no, it does not move me
Even though I’ve seen the movie
RepubAnon
Apparently this was not in the FTFNYT’s Opinion Section. Instead, it was in an annual report issued by John Roberts on the state of the judiciary. Gift Link: Chief Justice Roberts warns of threats to judges in year-end report. A quote:
John Roberts seems to have some typos – I expect it should have read: “Violence, intimidation, and defiance directed at judges because of their wholly unacceptable work to undermine our Republic…”
Ruckus
@Kay:
They are whiny and needy because they want a time that actually never existed in humanity. The are the whiny assholes who wanted to be in charge in jr high school but had zero concept of how to actually lead anything and in any way other than shitty. They want a world that vast humanity called crap on long ago. They have a view of something they think is life and it’s anything but. They want a world they can understand by them being in charge but they don’t have the anything whatsoever that allows them to lead. We’ve all seen them attempt to be in charge and now that their numbers have risen and they can make noise in public because they were some sort of “leader” in Jr HS is the highlight of their lives. They want a world that their simple minds can comprehend, which is rules and control over everything and everyone. They got pantsed and their asses kicked in Jr HS for being pompous jackasses and haven’t grown other than in numbers because they are incapable of growth. They are a group of humans that will always be with us, but we have to recognize them for what they are, human cockroaches that scurry around and make noise, and that no one, including themselves, likes them.
RevRick
@Elizabelle:
@Baud:
The Supreme Court has reverted quto the shitty, reactionary branch of government it has been through most of American history. These “luminaries “ have barfed up Dred Scott and Plessy v. Ferguson and Lochner and have scolded us to be mindful of the delicate fee-fees of corporations.
Liberals deluded themselves when there was a brief interregnum of liberal jurisprudence that its trajectory had changed. But Rehnquist and Roberts have firmly put a stop to that. And the Court expects us to respect and eat their turd sandwiches.
schrodingers_cat
OT Dad update. Spoke to him and my brother’s family on Zoom, he looks good for the ordeal he went through.
Jeffro
It is interesting, though, that Roberts noted the following as one of his concerns:
We talk a lot about how politicians – most especially GOP ones – have had emails and other communications hacked, and how they’re probably compromised by Russia, China, etc as a result.
But what about the judges? They can be compromised too.
caphilldcne
I’m not finding an editorial in the times. Can someone provide a link?
FYI There is an article by Adam Liptak of Roberts year end report on the federal judiciary which is up at supremecourt.gov.
Jeffro
Btw upon further reading, some of Roberts’ concerns quite obviously are aimed at trumpov and GOP politicians, and the violent goons that they stir up.
I fault him mainly for not naming names, not the majority of the content he’s complaining about.
different-church-lady
@Jeffro: “My boss’s goons scare me” is a hell of a take.
laura
It’s not just that the Cheif Justice took to the year end report to whine and whinge about criticisms from the hoi polloi, it’s that his basic premise is bullshit and should offend all Americans. That basic premise is that there shall be no accountability for power. My basic premise is that there shall be no power without accouuntability full stop.
That Roberts spent his early years assisting Rhenquist in voter suppression efforts at the state level really provides all the necessary context for his actions on the Supreme Court. The “law” is merely a vehicle for enshrining republican policies and concentrating power in the republican party. Not the equal application of law to cases and controversies. Not the individual as they stand before the power of the state. Not to build upon a body of law over time. Not respect for stare decisis. Just concentrating power, crushing the individual, overturning what the majority claimed was settled law as they lied their way onto the court- or purgered themselves before the Senate Judiciary Committees.
I’d argue that the decisions that flowed from the Roberts Court be given no respect and no claim to be the settled law of the land. How I hope, fervently, that I live long enough to see a larger, more balanced Supreme Court, with an ethics code that has an enforcement mechanism, and if it’s a Court under Cheif Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, that’d be alright by me.
In conclusion, fuck that guy.
Villago Delenda Est
@RevRick: The Warren court was an outlier, to be sure.
Kathleen
@Villago Delenda Est: Can we take it back to 1968 when Nixon was undermining Paris Peace Talks? Then Watergate in 1972. Republicans have to sabotage Dems to win.
Ruckus
@@mistermix.bsky.social:
I often wonder if they really have any idea of who and what they are. They don’t seem to have much concept of reality whatsoever. They want a world that hands them leadership and that isn’t how leadership works in the real world. Hell it didn’t work in the military and many of the “higher leadership” had this concept and stayed in because they got to go higher up in a system that was very restricted and had zero freedom and required respect of the uniform and expected that to include the person inside that uniform. Quite often it didn’t. Some did have the respect of their lessors, most only had respect of the uniform.
Mai Naem mobile ¹
@schrodingers_cat: i was thinking about you and your dad. I hadn’t seen anything after you mentioning that he had a stent put in. I’m glad he’s doing fine. Don’t be surprised if he displays some symptoms of depression. It’s normal.
Ruckus
@laura:
I like your style.
And I agree with you.
Another Scott
@Jeffro: I haven’t read anything other than the excerpts here, but your quote sounds like more whin[g]ing about the Dobbs decision being leaked early, to me.
Such a whin[g]er. Grr…
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Scott.
TBone
@marklar: Roberts authored a scolding year-end official report on Tuesday (yesterday) which is a separate piece from his previous FTFNYT opinion piece of shit.
rikyrah
Just whining azz titty babies ..
The entire lot of them
They use their power to ruin lives…
And, we aren’t supposed to express our outrage?
Phuck him😠😠😠
rikyrah
@laura:
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Mai Naem mobile ¹
@laura: i hope we see a Chief Justice KBJ but you’d have to see Thomas, Alito and Roberts last through TFG and kick the bucket during the hopefully following Dem admin. More likely I see Alito and Thomas retiring to some golden parachutes from Peter Thiel and Howard Lutnick. And Roberts retiring through threats from TFG’s goons. The thought of having 6 judges appointed by TFG on SCOTUS truly makes me nauseous.
laura
@rikyrah: And, we aren’t supposed to express our outrage?
We have a Right and an Obligation to express our outrage. Silence is acquiescence.
rikyrah
@Kay:
And then, we is was revealed by the great reporting by ProPublica..
That more than one Justice..
Was nothing more than..
A “leave payment on the nightstand” prostitute…..
AND
has the AUDACITY OF CAUCASITY
to purse his lips against a Formal Code of Ethics for the Supreme Court..😒😒😒😒😒😒
Citizen Alan
@Melancholy Jaques: that was when the gasoline hit the fire, yes. But for me, it all started in 1968. When the republicans successfully blocked abe fortas from becoming chief justice and eventually forced him to resign over a matter of something like $15,000 in speaking fees, thereby ensuring that nixon got to nominate four justices, including the chief justice.
Ruckus
@different-church-lady:
That actually is a very good statement. The bosses goons are not on your side, not on the good side, they are there to give the boss control that he otherwise would not have. A good boss controls not with threats but with leadership and knowledge, and those two things are not guaranteed to have anything to do with a boss just because they are the boss. The military at least taught me that. And in the military it’s actually the position and the uniform that is often in charge, not the person in it.
rikyrah
@schrodingers_cat:
Yesss.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
May he continue to heal🙏🏽
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Good
laura
@Mai Naem mobile ¹: During the late summer, I spent a lot of time hoping that the re-elected Joe Biden; and then, an elected Kamala Harris; would call for the resignations of Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito as one of his official acts on day one. This gal dreams big, but I’m moving to dream new dreams.
Van Buren
Here’s the condensed version:
“It’s bad for the Republic when you guys criticize us. Also, it’s totally unfair for you to require us to conform to ethics standards.”
Kay
It worries me that media is so in the tank for wealthy people that ordinary liberals don’t really have quality news sources BUT just from a personal standpoint I get a kick out of the prospect of all those NYTimes reporters going on CNN to sell their stupid books and then no one who buys books watching. They sneered at and rejected their own market. They better requisition some new puzzle games and do more rich people wedding announcements/real estate porn. That’s the market they created.
Captain C
@trollhattan: Roberts is the Angel Hernandez of calling judicial balls and strikes.
Kathleen
@schrodingers_cat: Glad to hear it!
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@@mistermix.bsky.social:
I’d like to talk to you about that on Friday. ;)
Kay
@rikyrah:
Scalia too. Just as corrupt as Thomas but white. Honestly though liberal lawyers did this to themselves. The SCOTUS worship was ridiculous. This is like a market correction to real value.
My husband and I joked that Roberts was the Smartest Lawyer in the World until the next SCOTUS nominee, who was then EVEN SMARTER. It was Tesla- level overvaluing. Its good they’re knocked down a peg.
schrodingers_cat
@Mai Naem mobile ¹: Good to know. I will call him every week. He was saying that my mother’s sudden passing away is only hitting him right now.
Captain C
@Jeffro: He’s a chickenshit coward who wants everything they want but with a veneer of quiet respectability so he can pretend he’s a decent, classy person instead of a greedy, sadistic turd.
p.a.
Roberts: “Why the outrage? We haven’t shit on the Constitution! It’s chocolate ice cream! Just ask Leonard Leo!”
Was the title of the article “Pompous Ass Has a Sad. Consequences are for Little People”?
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Captain C:
I love a great inside baseball reference. Brilliant.
For those that want a little background:
thebiglead.com/posts/10-worst-umpires-in-major-league-baseball-01g2d9twbtjg
Starfish (she/her)
@schrodingers_cat: This is good to hear! You have a rough 2024.
schrodingers_cat
@Kathleen: Thanks. Its hard to see him like this. But I am glad that he is gaining strength.
Kay
This is still my favorite “whiny Right wing justice” story just because it’s so incredibly petty and Alito is such a cowardly liar he even lied about this.
The hack lost an election, pitched an epic hissy fit, then feigned ignorance. Poorly raised. Entitled. Spoiled. But also a coward.
Kay
Its so clear media are terrified of the Right too. The treasonous flag “was flown at his house”. Once again they removed the agency from the act. I imagine editors sweating Right wing misconduct stories, going over them again and again, removing the actors.
Imagine for a moment Justice Kagan inverted the US flag at her house when 2024 was called for Trump. Media and Republicans would impeach her.
Villago Delenda Est
@Kathleen: Eisenhower was the last decent Republican President.
TBone
@Villago Delenda Est: that’s what my mom said too. She went to school with a family member (she said, I can’t remember if it was a son or daughter) at Gettysburg.
p.a.
Were there comments allowed? (Seriously asking the question… I guess.)
Villago Delenda Est
@p.a.: Over at Wonkette they NEVER allow comments.
montanareddog
@Raoul Paste: @Quinerly:
I have seen Nick Lowe live twice in the last 2 years. Minor fan of Nick (agreed that he is an excellent songwriter); but both times he was
supportedbacked by Los Straitjackets of whom I am a major fan. Nick plays 2 sets and Los Straitjackets play a half dozen of their numbers in between. They rock.Villago Delenda Est
The jerkwad that is Senator John Kennedy is making a total ass of himself, as usual, demanding that “the government” (of which he is not a part) reveal all about the New Orleans murderdriver.
Glory b
@schrodingers_cat: Good news for the beginning of the year!
Good for him and hopefully the harbinger of better things for 2025.
cmorenc
@mistermix:
Even worse is that the probability that Trump will nominate Cannon for a seat on SCOTUS, should a vacancy occur over the next 4 years. She single-handedly sabotaged the case against Trump for his theft of gravely important national security documents, against which he had no viable defense except to hope for jury nullification by slipping MAGAs onto the jury panel. Nothing in the SCOTUS immunity decision offered Trump any potential shelter, because of the wilful retention and concealment of the documents long *after* he was no longer POTUS, nor is there any straw in the fact scenario which they could have spun any gold card usable to get off the hook.
It’s the prospect of Trump having an R-controlled Senate the next two years which may tempt Thomas or Alito to step down at a moment when the probabilities will never be greater that a like-minded successor will get the seat. And Trump will be looking for a nominee most likely to support whatever he wants to do and roadblock what he doesn’t want – irrespective of the nominee’s qualifications, and Cannon is such an obvious great fit for that.
cmorenc
@Kay:
It seems so quaint that liberal Abe Fortas was hounded c 1970 into resigning from the court over a 20k payment from Wolfson, who was being investigated by the Nixon Justice Dept for insider trading (which payment Fortas returned). Small potatoes (even in 1970 vs 2020 dollars) compared to the all the mysterious loans and benefits Thomas has taken from his billionaire buddies.
Ruckus
@Kay:
As a former employer in a highly skilled industry, (started working for my father, ended up owning/running the business longer than he did) everyone should be judged upon their work. The employe with us the longest was from Estonia, and spoke english – sort of, but he was very, very good at the job. We needed people to be good at the job, every thing else was secondary at best. People that lied about having knowledge and proving themselves wrong never lasted long because everyone else had to make up for their mistakes. We also had, almost continuously, people starting out and learning – apprentices. People with entitlement never lasted long, their view of themselves never showed up in their work and often cost far more than their pay.
Ruckus
@Ohio Mom:
Actually those three things are the bedrock of a good citizen. In any country, tribe, membership club in the world. Tell the Truth (the actual truth – not the one you think will do you the most good), obey the law (lowers your attorney fees significantly, and jail time doesn’t enhance your work history), and keep the peace, because most of us actually enjoy peace.
And if you don’t accomplish the first two, you won’t get to stage 3, peace
Also, shitforbrains has no clue about the words you typed. He has no idea what the word truth means, and likely the only time he uses it would be to lie about something, trying to make you believe him.
hitchhiker
@Kay: Plus the recipes. My daughter got a gift subscription, and she sends me the recipes she likes best.
That’s it. The NYT is an online game site, a source of recipes, and a lifestyles of the rich and famous real estate rag.
If I wanted investigative reporting, it’s the last place I’d look.
mvr
@narya: Yes to all of that. I still like to see shows, but I don’t have the enthusiasm to drive several hours for as many musicians as I used to as people I enjoy die off or don’t tour in the middle of the country much. Also, I find that crowds turn me misanthropic so that one has to be only a bit obnoxious near me in a crowd before it bothers me. And concerts come with crowds and often with people who aren’t considerate.
mvr
@different-church-lady: I see what you did there!
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@mvr:
Ye Olde Concert Foole:
archive.is/A1BKo
Gretchen
@schrodingers_cat: I’m glad to hear that he’s doing better.
Another Scott
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Great piece.
+1
Nearly every show I’ve seen in the DC area has been like that. Old and “New” 930 Club, Black Cat, Birchmere, Iota, The Bayou, The State Theatre, etc., etc. I was thinking that after the smoking bans that it might actually be pleasant to go hear live music again, but, no, of course not, the talkers still just won’t shut up. Live music is just background musak for them to yak about to their friends to them.
[ sigh ]
Thanks.
Best wishes,
Scott.
Denali5
Well, I have already canceled my subscription to the NYT.
Ksmiami
@Kay: this court should be burnt to the ground, over and over
Ksmiami
@laura: I’d like a completely defanged Court
mvr
@comrade scotts agenda of rage:
yes.
Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)
@Booger: Isn’t that “Son of Vizzini”?