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Excellent Read: The United States of Snitches

by Anne Laurie|  September 27, 20255:47 pm| 92 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Republican Politics, Trumpery

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The country is run by conservative content creators with low numbers and poor engagement.
Social media is an altar of power for the conservative torment nexus. They're one step away from *follow4follow* behavior.
The United States Of Snitches – defector.com/the-united-s…

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— Veronica Ripley 🏳️‍⚧️ (@nikatine.com) September 17, 2025 at 1:57 PM

National treasure Dave Roth, at Defector:

… There aren’t really central tenets to Trumpism, at least beyond the bigoted defaults of the stupid and spiteful stripe of the American Elite from which Trump himself emerged; that absence of ethos, at least beyond the belief that it is the absolute and natural right of that rancid elect to prey upon everyone and everything else, constructs a perverse permission structure of its own. Trump did not invent any of this so much as it invented him, and the fantasy of Trumpism, for those who have remade or simply discovered themselves in the service of it, is that Trump’s followers might through their service claim for themselves the same privileges that Trump himself has so delighted in abusing. This is not how it works for followers, though, or with Trump; those who live to serve him have always very clearly been destined to be buried alive with him. It is, in every degrading sense, a sort of American Dream.

… This combination of laziness and mercilessness perfectly suits a movement of dully depraved local gentry, but it is striking how much this relentless and scattershot pettiness has made its way upward. For all of Scheming Vizier and aspiring genocidaire Stephen Miller’s superheated rhetoric of total culture war—”With god as my witness,” Miller said on Monday, “we are going to use every resource we have at the Department of Justice, Homeland Security and throughout this government to identify, disrupt, eliminate and destroy this network and make America safe again for the American people”—the instinct to snitch and bully and gloat has reliably won out even among actual elites. The Governor of Texas brags on social media about the explusion of an 18-year-old Texas Tech student who engaged in the wrong type of free speech in the designated campus Free Speech Area. Pam Bondi, Attorney General of the United States, goes on TV and reminds a rogue Office Depot employee that it is very much within her power to prosecute him. Trump himself, who gets testy when people talk about someone other than him for too long, has moved all the way on, and out inexorably toward the first tee.

The entire program is lavishly and howlingly fascist, of course, but it is also so preposterous and so small. All of this underwrought bombast and frantic bullying is doing real and unjust damage in actual people’s lives, but it is also slick with the sort of flopsweat that adheres to the phrase “like and subscribe.” In the absence of governance, or just in its place, the state has taken up a grim and shameful kind of content creation. The conservative elite, all purpose and prayerfulness in their powerful offices, now has to crash out about nonbinary baristas and kick around sophomores with septum piercings for clout, like common influencers.

Again, this all emanates from and returns to Trump himself, whose industry as a content creator is exceeded only by his blank and insatiable appetite for consuming it. There is a certain type of content that the big guy likes, which is mostly cops roughing up bad guys, but also rich people attending fancy parties and crowds rising for him in unanimous applause and footage of missiles blowing things up. The political culture now works mostly to create those images for him and explain why they are so popular and important. It shows them over and over again, and discusses them in tones of calculated awe—are they bigger, will there be more, how radical or reckless or bold are they, do you think, relative to the ones from yesterday, or last week?

These things are in fact not popular, and are increasingly unpopular; for the many people who cannot subsist on content and grievance alone, it has become very difficult to ignore the reality that everything else in American life is atrophying due to the attention and resources currently being redirected to manufacturing this content. No one and nothing else matters; Trump, in his bloated imperial phase, no longer even pretends that anyone or anything else ever could. This leaves the people who have given themselves over to this bleak fandom on their phones, mostly, but not entirely out of the game. Their job is to like and subscribe and amplify and support, and to await the call to hop into the crypt with their president and everything he has hoarded away for himself…

But for all of Miller’s furious Cobra Commander rhetoric, for all the metastatic gilding and trophy clutter in Trump’s Oval Office, for all the strident and signifying fascism down on the streets, the reality of all this is plain and shabby. It is not any kind of full-spectrum authoritarian command, or even the grubby paranoid snitchscape of oppressive surveillance states, but the more familiar sputtering busybody bullshit and hair-trigger offense of a deranged Homeowners Association. Not some grand tyranny directed from above, but a sweaty congeries of little tyrants patrolling the little fiefdoms they’ve arrogated for themselves, working less to knit their awful stupid grievances together than merely against their neighbors everywhere and anywhere possible. Vance, true to form, was just amplifying the one thing that Trumpism has ever offered—not real opportunity or purpose, not inclusion or community, not even personal advancement, but merely the chance to hurt other people and get away with it.

So this is it: the old national crises of meaninglessness and arbitrary violence and anomie and elite impunity, reshaped by the soft hands of the elites who authored and command all those crises into an opportunity for regular Americans to meet the moment and fulfill their duty as citizens by trying to get the lib wife of the guy who manages the Buca Di Beppo near the mall into some kind of trouble. There is no actual purpose to it, no broader program in it, nothing but the belief that all these cruelties are allowed, now, and so might replace any other right and every other thing that had come before. “People say, ‘Oh, people have a right to say things,'” Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said on Fox News. “Well, actually they don’t necessarily have a right to say things.”

The Senate’s resident libertarian was talking about the nasty stuff that people say to him online. His statement is ridiculous on its face, un-American not just in its defiance of the oldest national values but in its violation of the longstanding national bias against whiny little twerps, but it was also absolutely in earnest. These are clowns, factory seconds, prissy sadistic losers, and the clock is ticking. They know as much. They also really mean it.

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    1. 1.

      bbleh

      September 27, 2025 at 5:53 pm

      It is not any kind of full-spectrum authoritarian command, or even the grubby paranoid snitchscape of oppressive surveillance states, but the more familiar sputtering busybody bullshit and hair-trigger offense of a deranged Homeowners Association.

      FTW.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 5:55 pm

      @bbleh:

      Agree. Best line.

      Reply
    3. 3.

      Spanky

      September 27, 2025 at 6:01 pm

      @bbleh:

      deranged Homeowners Association

      Seems redundant, in my experience.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      MattF

      September 27, 2025 at 6:06 pm

      Exhibit A is our Secretary of War giving a pep talk to unwillingly assembled generals and admirals. I worried for a while that there was some unspoken ulterior machination going on here— but shouldn’t have. It’s just stupidity.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      evodevo

      September 27, 2025 at 6:08 pm

      @Spanky: ​
        Two thumbs up lol

      Reply
    6. 6.

      schrodingers_cat

      September 27, 2025 at 6:09 pm

      How white people perceive the latest iteration of Republican rule is different than how non-white people and other targeted minorities experience it

      I can assure you that there is nothing remotely funny about it.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 6:14 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      I read the OP to call them pathetic rather than funny. YMMV.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      schrodingers_cat

      September 27, 2025 at 6:15 pm

      @Baud: OP? Opinion piece? They are pathetic and unfunny

      Jimmy Kimmel gets so much coverage compared to the proposed end to all skilled legal immigration. Its disheartening. Not unexpected. Makes me question my life decisions.

      Reply
    9. 9.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 6:16 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      Original post.

      Agree. Pathetic and unfunny.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      Marc

      September 27, 2025 at 6:16 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: The funny part is that most white people still can’t (or don’t want to) see it.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      Omnes Omnibus

      September 27, 2025 at 6:16 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:  There are a lot of minority populations who use black humor to get through bad situations.  It’s not because the situation is actually funny.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      schrodingers_cat

      September 27, 2025 at 6:18 pm

      @Omnes Omnibus: I speak for myself. I find it unfunny and enraging.

      Reply
    13. 13.

      Marc

      September 27, 2025 at 6:21 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: Jimmy Kimmel gets so much coverage compared to the proposed end to all skilled non-white legal immigration.

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Craigie

      September 27, 2025 at 6:22 pm

      ”Deranged Homeowners Association “ is the perfect encapsulation of this current regime.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)

      September 27, 2025 at 6:22 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: Agreed. This entire maladministration is malevolent horseshyte and needs to be purged with fire.

      With that said, perhaps humor will get the message through to the YT voters who might be persuaded that Felonious Thunk should be repudiated at the ballot box.

      Reply
    16. 16.

      schrodingers_cat

      September 27, 2025 at 6:25 pm

      @Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq): I hope so. Because they are going to be affected too. I found out recently that close to 50% of rural healthcare workers (physicians to nurses to pharmacists and so on) are foreign born and on some kind of visa.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 6:27 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      Personal stories, especially involving famous people, will always get more media than issues, especially issues affecting marginalized groups.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)

      September 27, 2025 at 6:31 pm

      @Marc: This needs to be made much more of. Especially since so many healthcare pros are admitted to the US through H1B and other programs.

      I for one don’t want a PCP who got their MD because the place was open thanks to better qualified applicants being denied entry.

      Reply
    19. 19.

      Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)

      September 27, 2025 at 6:31 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: Seems we had the same thought.

      Reply
    20. 20.

      Marc

      September 27, 2025 at 6:36 pm

      @Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq):  Yes, although frankly, few noticed when this only impacted skilled immigrants from African and Caribbean countries.  Now that’s being more broadly applied to those who, uh, may have thought they had a pass, it’s getting some attention.

      Reply
    21. 21.

      Suzanne

      September 27, 2025 at 6:47 pm

      “People say, ‘Oh, people have a right to say things,’” Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul said on Fox News. “Well, actually they don’t necessarily have a right to say things.”

      The Senate’s resident libertarian was talking about the nasty stuff that people say to him online. His statement is ridiculous on its face, un-American not just in its defiance of the oldest national values but in its violation of the longstanding national bias against whiny little twerps, but it was also absolutely in earnest. These are clowns, factory seconds, prissy sadistic losers, and the clock is ticking. They know as much. They also really mean it.

      So many of these people have never been told NO and it shows. The Party of Mediocre White Men.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 6:49 pm

      @Suzanne:

      Honor over principle.

      Reply
    23. 23.

      zhena gogolia

      September 27, 2025 at 6:54 pm

      @Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq): Our entire medical team are immigrants. And we’re not that rural.

      Reply
    24. 24.

      satby

      September 27, 2025 at 6:57 pm

      I was coming over here to share David Rothkopf’s latest post to subscribers because it’s just so excellent:

      But is his power overstated? Are people unnecessarily afraid? Might his grip on what power he does have be transient? And are there hidden costs to placating him, to playing his game?

      Beyond these questions, but directly related to them, arises the core issue: Will Trump’s actions and threats produce in us the fear he seeks, or the kind of fear that mobilizes us to save ourselves?

      I still believe it is the latter. I still believe America will rise up and turn back this onslaught of lunacy, greed, incompetence, ignorance, and hate.

      Reply
    25. 25.

      Melancholy Jaques

      September 27, 2025 at 6:57 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      I have never found anything funny about that asshole, but then I didn’t find any humor in the Bush/Cheney Junta either.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      Snarki, child of Loki

      September 27, 2025 at 6:59 pm

      Is Trump getting paranoid about being replaced by Vance?

      And seeking some pre-emptive vengence?

      Why ELSE would he put big tariffs on “upholstered furniture” than to take direct aim at Vance???

      Reply
    27. 27.

      schrodingers_cat

      September 27, 2025 at 7:00 pm

      @satby: IDK who us is. Are immigrants included in the us? I am increasing feeling like a them.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      schrodingers_cat

      September 27, 2025 at 7:01 pm

      @Melancholy Jaques: In some ways we are here because the privileged wanted to be entertained and Biden was boring.

      Reply
    29. 29.

      Suzanne

      September 27, 2025 at 7:07 pm

      @Baud: It occurs to me just how staggeringly lazy these people are. They are emotionally lazy. They don’t want to do the work of persistence or diligence in the face of doubt or uncertainty. They demand that we tell them how great they are. Fuck them, fuck that.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      sab

      September 27, 2025 at 7:14 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: Hang on to your citizenship papers. My BIL from China also got his post election.

      My family has been here since mid 17th century but we can’t prove it. No records back then. So you and my BIL are more legal than we are. Most recent were Irish escaping the Famine and rich Canadian going to nursing school. Can’t prove that either.

      I had a horrible racist grandmother in the DAR ( Daughters of the American Revolution) so maybe we can document descent from the slavers.

      This would be obnoxiously entertaining if it were not so serious

      ETA My husband’s people were coal miners in Pennsylvania a hundred years back. Citizens? Who knows?

      Reply
    31. 31.

      Melancholy Jaques

      September 27, 2025 at 7:17 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      Not just the privileged. The normies want a TV show.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Librettist

      September 27, 2025 at 7:18 pm

       

      sports.yahoo.com/nfl/breaking-news/article/former-bears-cb-charles-peanut-tillman-says-he-quit-fbi-d…

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Nukular Biskits

      September 27, 2025 at 7:19 pm

      Good evenin’, y’all!

      That was a damned good read, AL, particularly this:

      Vance, true to form, was just amplifying the one thing that Trumpism has ever offered—not real opportunity or purpose, not inclusion or community, not even personal advancement, but merely the chance to hurt other people and get away with it.

      As Adam Serwer said in 2018, “the cruelty is the point.”

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Nukular Biskits

      September 27, 2025 at 7:20 pm

      @MattF:

      Hanlon’s Razor is a great predictor of Trump Admin behavior.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 7:21 pm

      @Librettist:

      Awesome.

      Reply
    36. 36.

      Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)

      September 27, 2025 at 7:21 pm

      This:

      that absence of ethos, at least beyond the belief that it is the absolute and natural right of that rancid elect to prey upon everyone and everything else, constructs a perverse permission structure of its own

      …explains Epstein, both his predilections/predations and the company he kept, better than any more erudite analysis ever could.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 7:21 pm

      @Suzanne:

      They demand that we tell them how great they are. Fuck them, fuck that.

       
      No lie told.

      Reply
    38. 38.

      Librettist

      September 27, 2025 at 7:22 pm

      @Librettist:

      “I want to be on the right side of history when it’s all said & done”- @peanuttillman on resigning from the FBI.

       

      Roger that.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)

      September 27, 2025 at 7:31 pm

      @satby: Forgive my saying so, but isn’t

      this onslaught of lunacy, greed, incompetence, ignorance, and hate

      … a textbook definition of fascism?

      Reply
    40. 40.

      gene108

      September 27, 2025 at 7:32 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      Jimmy Kimmel gets so much coverage compared to the proposed end to all skilled legal immigration. Its disheartening. Not unexpected. Makes me question my life decisions.

      Yeah, they want bar all immigration to the U.S. Targeting student visas, H1-Bs, and OPTs keep Asians out of the country.

      There are a lot of white people who do not want foreigners here, especially in good high paying jobs.

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    41. 41.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 7:33 pm

      @gene108:

      There are a lot of white people who do not want foreigners here, especially in good high paying jobs.

       

      They also don’t want American minorities or. If they’re male, women.

      The circle never stops shrinking.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      HinTN

      September 27, 2025 at 7:33 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: Yep, that’s about the size of it. In glad Joe didn’t dance to their tune but damn…

      Reply
    43. 43.

      trnc

      September 27, 2025 at 7:35 pm

      Sorry, a bit late and off topic, but I nominate “Okay, well” as a rotating tag.

      Reply
    44. 44.

      satby

      September 27, 2025 at 7:36 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: of course “us” means “all of us who oppose the administration”.

      Reply
    45. 45.

      satby

      September 27, 2025 at 7:38 pm

      @Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq): and your point? Did that detract in some way from what he wrote?

      Honestly, we’ll parse ourselves to death while the opposition fills concentration camps.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 7:40 pm

      Newsom is a snitch. He told on Stephen Miller.

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Geminid

      September 27, 2025 at 7:41 pm

      @Snarki, child of Loki: I don’t know about the tariffs, but I expect Trump has been paranoid about Vance ever since he picked him for VP. One if the many flaws Trump might see in our system is that he can’t fire Vance. He can fire eveyone else, but he can’t fire Vance.

      My Atlanta friend is paranoid about Vance too.. He wonders if last year’s election was an effort by Musk, Thiel and others to make JD Vance the next president, and maybe sooner rather than later.

      Reply
    48. 48.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 7:42 pm

      @satby:

      Honestly, we’ll parse ourselves to death while the opposition fills concentration camps.

       
      Prison camps.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      MagdaInBlack

      September 27, 2025 at 7:42 pm

      @Baud: Ha! Thank you, I needed that laugh.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      zhena gogolia

      September 27, 2025 at 7:43 pm

      @MagdaInBlack: He is funny.

      Reply
    51. 51.

      MagdaInBlack

      September 27, 2025 at 7:43 pm

      @Geminid: He wonders? I’m convinced of it.

      Reply
    52. 52.

      Jay

      September 27, 2025 at 7:46 pm

      @schrodingers_cat:

      Some people are “media worthy”. Just their name in a headline, be it the WAPO, the FTFNYT, People Magazine or The National Enquirer, generate clicks and views, sell paper, get copied and reposted all over social media.

      Some people issues and conditions only get covered by alt media and Independents.

      It in various extremes have always been more or less the same since the start of Yellow “Journalism”.

      And it is only going to get worse.

      Long post,…………………………….

      Pekka Kallioniemi

      @P_Kallioniemi
      Sep 25
      Neutral Social Media Is a Myth How billionaire-owned platforms quietly tilt the conversation and why true neutrality online doesn’t exist Broligarchs, billionaire oligarchs with outsized media power, own platforms that serve as powerful political weapons. The myth that social media is politically neutral collapses the moment you look under the hood. When a Super Bowl “Go Eagles!” tweet from Elon Musk received just over 9 million impressions compared to 29 million for a similar tweet from President Biden, Musk didn’t shrug it off. He reportedly summoned engineers in the middle of the night to build a system that would artificially boost his tweets by a factor of 1000, ensuring his posts dominated the social media feeds of millions. Today’s social media platforms are not public forums. They are privately owned media machines, designed and tuned in secrecy. Only their owners and developers truly know what is being amplified and what is being suppressed.

      nitter.poast.org/P_Kallioniemi/status/1971279957415395384#m

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    53. 53.

      frosty

      September 27, 2025 at 7:48 pm

      @Spanky: We are moving to a new house with an HOA. First HOA I’ll ever have to deal with – you don’t find them in neighborhoods with 50 to 100-year old houses. I’m not looking forward to it.

      My oldest friend dealt with it by becoming the organization’s president. Nice move.

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    54. 54.

      Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq)

      September 27, 2025 at 7:53 pm

      @satby: Just saying there are more succinct ways of putting it. The longer version seems to pretend the shorter version is something different. Nothing about parsing ourselves to death, more about calling the thing what it is and not pretending that what we face today is the bargain-basement version – somehow less threatening, less virulent, than the original.

      Reply
    55. 55.

      tobie

      September 27, 2025 at 7:57 pm

      Dave Roth’s description of the attitude of small-town Americans strikes me as spot on. I live off a dirt road in a small town, and the angriest online Trumpers in the neighborhood have installed speed bumps and posted speed limit signs (5 mph / Children at play) that drive the rest of us crazy. I liked Tim Walz’s riff during the campaign: “Mind your own damn business.” That used to be a Republican credo but the pro-life movement destroyed it.

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    56. 56.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 8:01 pm

      Gamer news via reddit

      Reports: EA set to be sold to private investors for up to $50 billion

      Saudi investment fund, Jared Kushner are reportedly among the interested buyers

      Reply
    57. 57.

      Matt McIrvin

      September 27, 2025 at 8:04 pm

      @tobie: They had a concrete if stupid liberty argument during the COVID pandemic– “my freedom to not wear a mask or get vaccinated outweighs your right to stay uninfected in public”–until they started ripping the masks off of other people, screaming at them for masking and freaking out about them shedding imaginary vaccine proteins.

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    58. 58.

      David Collier-Brown

      September 27, 2025 at 8:07 pm

      @Baud:

      They also don’t want American minorities

      That may explain why they’re trying to kill us with COVID and measles. To get the population of non-whites down.

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    59. 59.

      sab

      September 27, 2025 at 8:07 pm

      @frosty: I have been doing AUPs ( agreed upon procedures.) for HoAs for the last fifteen plus years. My favorite part is readinfg the minutes. WATB. Just horrible people. But needs to be done because sometimes those underpaid treasurers do steal.

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    60. 60.

      Matt McIrvin

      September 27, 2025 at 8:07 pm

      @sab: I have documentation to prove I was born in the US, but according to MAGA that’s not enough, you have to be able to prove your parents were not here illegally. Well, I might be able to prove that THEY were born in the US, but then I have to prove that THEIR parents were here legally.

      Go back one more generation, to my great-grandparents, and you start encountering immigrants. Were they here legally? Well, probably, because it was before the 1920s and they weren’t Chinese. But can I prove that? I don’t think so.

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    61. 61.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 8:08 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: I can assure you that there is nothing remotely funny about it.

      Not funny, perhaps, but endlessly embarrassing and subject to mockery.

      Reply
    62. 62.

      Baud

      September 27, 2025 at 8:10 pm

      @MagdaInBlack:

      Less funny but spot on.

      Reply
    63. 63.

      David Collier-Brown

      September 27, 2025 at 8:11 pm

      @frosty:

      If the realtor really want to get paid, he’ll take your HOA application with the “refused with prejudice” written across it and just drop it in the file.

      Reply
    64. 64.

      sab

      September 27, 2025 at 8:11 pm

      @Matt McIrvin: Hence my hope from my horrible grandmother’s DAR registration.

      How phucked is that that belonging to a racist sisterhood makes your citizenship assured.

      Reply
    65. 65.

      schrodingers_cat

      September 27, 2025 at 8:14 pm

      @satby: Sometimes on BJ I totally feel like a “them”.

      Reply
    66. 66.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 8:20 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: Tell me whom to boycott over these new visa regulations and I got you.

      The Kimmel situation had an obvious money hungry target involved to put pressure on. Where does the pressure go now?

      Reply
    67. 67.

      MagdaInBlack

      September 27, 2025 at 8:24 pm

      @tobie: Having grown up itty small town, and been the object of some of the busy body nature of it, I have always thought maga and their ilk behaved like…small town nosy folk

      @Baud: Bitter laughter still counts, yes?

      Reply
    68. 68.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 8:25 pm

      @MagdaInBlack: Having grown up in blue suburbs, my impression of MAGA looks more like willfully obtuse high-income professionals.

      Reply
    69. 69.

      sab

      September 27, 2025 at 8:25 pm

      @sab: HOA Horrible people.

      Can’t take in your fifteen year old grandchild to get him in a better school district because he is a teen.

      Can’t allow actual homeowners to swim in the pool because they use walkers or wheelchairs (they might poop in the pool.)

      As I said, these are horrible people.

      One year a treasurer was so extremely rude I told my partner I wouldn’t deal with him anymore. My immediate supervisor with a very calm temperment and a hide like a rhinoceros said the same.

      Fortunately the guy died before the next year.

      Reply
    70. 70.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 8:29 pm

      @Baud: Calling them fascists is a call to violence, doncha know?

      Meanwhile then calling us demons, socialist, communists, looters, rioters, and enablers of the invasion of the country…isn’t?

      How about any acknowledgement of the fact Democrats follow up their criticisms of Republicans with admonitions to vote or protest and Republicans instead spin a narrative about the second amendment that suggests it is okay to meet what they perceive as injustice with violence?

      Reply
    71. 71.

      MagdaInBlack

      September 27, 2025 at 8:29 pm

      @iKropoclast: I do see the similarity.  I now live in a blue suburb and work for some pretty fkn obtuse high income managerial class folks who supported trump. So there’s that too.

      Reply
    72. 72.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 8:32 pm

      @MagdaInBlack: When they talk about eliminating trans people that isn’t a threat…

      They’re only getting rid of incompetent black women in the government, not all of them…

      These fuckers can ignore the bleeding obvious every time as long as it benefits their 401K. Or they think it does.

      Reply
    73. 73.

      Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

      September 27, 2025 at 8:50 pm

      @iKropoclast:

      about the second amendment that suggests it is okay to meet what they perceive as injustice with violence?

      Which is ironic considering the Administration and a few others on the right have more or less shown they don’t think the left or others they don’t like should have the same 2A rights as they do and should be disarmed or treated with suspicion

      This was posted by some city council twerp in Palm Beach, FL

      Notice the symbol of a human figure throwing a swastika into a trashcan is labeled as “anti-white”

      Reply
    74. 74.

      Jackie

      September 27, 2025 at 8:56 pm

      @MagdaInBlack:

      Having grown up itty small town, and been the object of some of the busy body nature of it, I have always thought maga and their ilk behaved like…small town nosy folk

      🎶The day my mama socked it to the Harper Valley PTA.🎶

      Such an honest song. True way before then; Still true today.

      Reply
    75. 75.

      prostratedragon

      September 27, 2025 at 9:04 pm

      @Smiling Happy Guy (aka boatboy_srq):  What about all the people who don’t understand that those mundane garbage attitudes are precisely the grist of fascism? It has to be broken down for them.

      Reply
    76. 76.

      Mike in Pasadena

      September 27, 2025 at 9:07 pm

      Most judges I appeared before would have reamed an attorney of Halligan’s incompetence. Most would have said, Case dismissed without prejudice. Try again, refile when you have it together, counsel.

      Reply
    77. 77.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 9:08 pm

      @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Notice the symbol of a human figure throwing a swastika into a trashcan is labeled as “anti-white”

      LMAO.  Accidental truth right there. It wasn’t even just incidental. That was the whole label.

      Reply
    78. 78.

      Jay

      September 27, 2025 at 9:10 pm

      ‪Aaron Reichlin-Melnick‬
      ‪@reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬
      ¡ 2h
      WOW. This entire story is HORRIFIC. This is FOIA of a body cam from the raid in upstate New York the same day as the Hyundai plant. It catches a Border Patrol agent on camera only bragging about denying medical care to migrants detained at the border under Biden — who he says are all “animals.”

      1/3

      ‪David Bier‬
      ‪@davidjbier.bsky.social‬
      ¡ 2h
      The agent admits he treats immigrants like “they’re animals” and that he tells his kids that they are animals “all the time”

      40

      799

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      ‪Aaron Reichlin-Melnick‬
      ‪@reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬
      ¡ 2h
      Mr. Ramirez, who was working LEGALLY at the factory, has U.S. citizen children and a wife here. He repeatedly asked to call his lawyer. DHS refused him at every turn, and threw him on a plane to Guatemala within 72 hours.

      DHS claims he waived a right to a hearing. He says that they’re lying.

      3/3
      ‘I did not sign anything’
      After Ramirez Perez was taken from the factory in Cato, he was taken to the Border Patrol Station in Oswego.

      “We were there all day without even eating anything, not even water,” he said.

      That evening they were moved from Oswego to the Batavia detention center and got there around 10 p.m., Ramirez Perez said.

      “We were there only for the night because the next morning, they took us to the airport and then flew us to Texas,” he said.

      At the McAllen facility, Ramirez Perez said he was given some food for the first time in two days, but they had to sleep on the floor using sleeping bags. He kept asking the agents for the opportunity to talk to his lawyer. They denied him, however, saying that it was the weekend. He would need to wait until Monday, they said.

      He was deported before Monday came.

      “In the meantime, they woke me up at 1 a.m. on Sunday and they said that I needed to leave, that they were going to take me to Guatemala,” Ramirez Perez said.
      ALT

      3

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      ‪Aaron Reichlin-Melnick‬
      ‪@reichlinmelnick.bsky.social‬
      ¡ 2h
      The story here: spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-…

      Man detained in Cato ICE raid wrongfully deported, separated from his family
      Body camera footage released from the raid shows agents referring to immigrants as 'animals.'
      spectrumlocalnews.com

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      Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

      ‪David Bier‬
      ‪@davidjbier.bsky.social‬
      ¡ 2h
      Border Patrol agent talks about how he knows that the people he’s arresting at this nutrition bar factory in NY are “literal street rats” who would “eat our kids”

      0:03

      0:07 / 0:11

      90

      560

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    79. 79.

      UncleEbeneezer

      September 27, 2025 at 9:10 pm

      @bbleh: So is this one:

      Vance, true to form, was just amplifying the one thing that Trumpism has ever offered—not real opportunity or purpose, not inclusion or community, not even personal advancement, but merely the chance to hurt other people and get away with it.

      Reply
    80. 80.

      Jackie

      September 27, 2025 at 9:10 pm

      BREAKING NEWS!

      The top congressional leaders of both parties will meet Monday afternoon with President Donald Trump — less than 48 hours before a possible government shutdown — according to three people granted anonymity to discuss the plans ahead of a public announcement.

      The meeting with Speaker Mike Johnson , Senate Majority Leader John Thune , Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries is set to take place less than a week after Trump abruptly canceled a previously scheduled meeting with Schumer and Jeffries.

      politico.com/news/2025/09/27/trump-shutdown-meeting-00583500

      Will FFOTUS TACO – again?

      Reply
    81. 81.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 9:13 pm

      @Jay: Body camera footage released from the raid shows agents referring to immigrants as ‘animals.’

      Any chance of a link?

      Reply
    82. 82.

      UncleEbeneezer

      September 27, 2025 at 9:21 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: Politics is just no fun unless we help put Dems in the biggest hole possible by attacking all of our best leaders.

      Reply
    83. 83.

      Jay

      September 27, 2025 at 9:25 pm

      @iKropoclast:

      bsky.app/profile/reichlinmelnick.bsky.social/post/3lztxzvmkx224

      Reply
    84. 84.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 9:26 pm

      @Jay: Thank you. Luckily I enrolled in Bluesky a couple days ago. Only for the links.

      Reply
    85. 85.

      WTFghost

      September 27, 2025 at 9:50 pm

      Ah, hell. I’ve hit one of those life situations in which someone wants to lock me up, seeing as how, if I was given as much alc as I wanted, I’d suck back a half gallon a day. And i’d look back, possibly a bit bleary-ishly, and say “if’n you hurt as much as me, I’d be just as schnockered, four drinks behind you, and *you* would be the one I’m keeping alive, and all I’d be doing is asking if you’ll eat a bagged salad. Now, do you want to split a bag of effing salad, asshole?”

      For the record: no, I’m not drinking as much as I wanted. The only time I would drink 1750 in a day, is, if I didn’t, I’d assume I’d eat a shotgun, instead.. Please, don’t intervene, unless you want me to step up behind you and go BOOM one day, just so you really comprehend the reality.

      But, to be clear, no, that’s not how much I’m drinking – I just know it won’t numb the pain, enough, so, I stop before then. Still – it’s not some effin’ moral limit, you see? It’s just, practically, it’s a hella lot worse than 750 ever was. If you’re going to cry if I’m drinking a fifth, to stay alive to the sixth, then, let me find a place where you don’t go, to discuss my survival needs – with no offense intended to you.

      What haunts me now, is not the pain that wants to suck back an enormous amount of liquor, to find some numbness. It’s having that pain, for so many, many, years, and realizing I can’t drink my pain away, no matter how close I come to death, and, I’m not close to death, but… damn it.

      The most unfair thing in this world is a patient can never said “doctor, you made me want to die, right now.” They can only say “now, in the rational today, I can report, way back when, you made me want to die!” and doctor can say, with a pat on the head, “that was for your own good!”

      I’m in the realm of pain that can’t be discussed, because “any ordinary person is in grave danger of death, now, that’s for you pussies, not those of us with 20, 30 years experience feeling like this, for us, it’s a really shitty 3-4 weeks, maybe 3-4 months, but, we’ll live. I mean, because if we say otherwise, you numnuts nazis would lock us the eff up wouldn’t you? But no, you’ve only killed the *teenaged* Ghost, who if I may mention, is named for an *afterlife* state!!

      That’s kind of the point. I can’t die, right? Who-hooooo-oooo, I’m a ghost! But, no, I’m not in any danger. I’m just in a metric assload of pain
      (“Hey, ‘Ghost, I thought you hated ‘boatload’.”
      “Yeah, you tell me who needs *assload* of pain explained? Hmm?”)
      and a bit worried, because I’m now surrounded by people who don’t have 55 years experience dealing with this crap.

      Frontpagers, please feel free to pull this if you feel the need.

      Reply
    86. 86.

      Gvg

      September 27, 2025 at 9:52 pm

      @schrodingers_cat: humor has often been the best first weapon of subversion in a revolt against authoritarianism. It can’t be the only one, and it doesn’t suit all people or reach them, but don’t disdain it because it’s on your side this time. It is not trivializing what is happening. People are having a conversation with each other and saying things silently with their laughter. It’s kind of a straw poll, plus conversation starter with neighbors. The high ratings tell people that they aren’t alone, other people were noticing too.

      As for the lack of similar support against the Visa restrictions, well I am sure the employers are complaining, but not yet being listened to. There is no show people can watch and show support for, plus there really is a lot of anti immigrant feeling even among liberals. There has also been a lot of misinformation fed for a long time. It’s going to take some time for people to find out how many of their assumptions were wrong. We democrats need to start using the word scapegoat a lot more IMO

      Reply
    87. 87.

      Jay

      September 27, 2025 at 10:05 pm

      @iKropoclast:

      You don’t need a BlueSky account to read, link and repost most BlueSky accounts, only a few restrict other reposting their posts unless you are part of their “community”, you usually see it when a BlueSky poster reposts or comments on their post.

      Reply
    88. 88.

      iKropoclast

      September 27, 2025 at 10:08 pm

      @Gvg: well I am sure the employers are complaining, but not yet being listened to. There is no show people can watch and show support for, plus there really is a lot of anti immigrant feeling even among liberals.

      Republicans’ immigration policies are the main thing they push that makes me want to light a fire*. Especially considering that this is easily their most extreme view that has significant purchase outside their party.

      *My own person, I would never want to hurt anyone else

      @Jay: Prior to creating account, I have never clicked on a Bluesky link without being presented with a sign in screen.

      Either way, I’m on now.

      Reply
    89. 89.

      Soprano2

      September 27, 2025 at 10:20 pm

      @Jay: This isn’t anything we didn’t already know but it’s nice to have proof.

      Reply
    90. 90.

      Ruckus

      September 28, 2025 at 6:37 pm

      @Suzanne:

      Maybe every one who wants to work for the government in what I call as leadership of one sort or another should have to spend time as an enlisted person in the US military. A 2 year minimum should do. Can’t get ranked high enough to be all that smug and will be treated in the finest way by people of higher rank who have nothing else to do but try to break you. It either opens your eyes and ears or awards you last place in life platitudes.

      Reply
    91. 91.

      Ruckus

      September 28, 2025 at 6:39 pm

      @Suzanne:

      I like your style!

      Reply
    92. 92.

      Ruckus

      September 28, 2025 at 6:56 pm

      @gene108:

      @Baud:

      They don’t want people that will work harder than they will.

      They don’t want people that will learn more than they can.

      They don’t want to be made to look the fools that they are.

      They don’t want or to admit that they were born from immigrant parents or grandparents. Because most people born here have immigrant backgrounds in their family chain. I do, one at the grandparent level. Not real sure of the backgrounds of anyone before grandparents but just by knowing them and some of their history, I’d bet that my family tree of born in the US does not go back all that far. And many of us in this country have similar histories that don’t go back all that far.

      Reply

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