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You are here: Home / Economics / Grifters Gonna Grift / Late Night Open Thread: Trump’s Presidential ‘Library’ Finds A Home

Late Night Open Thread: Trump’s Presidential ‘Library’ Finds A Home

by Anne Laurie|  September 28, 20251:22 am| 39 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Trumpery

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Trump Picks Florida Parking Lot for His Presidential Library msn.com/en-us/news/p…

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— tommyboy0690.bsky.social (@tommyboy0690.bsky.social) September 25, 2025 at 6:09 AM

There’s a lot of well-justified skepticism that any of the funds currently being donated by cowed corporations and aspiring criminals / grifters will get spent on an actual library. But the latest iteration is being promoted as part of a(nother) hotel complex, which is at least plausible — giving Mad Granpa an excuse to ramble for the media about marble (never terrazzo!) floors and classy (Temu fake gold) decor.

Excellent look at the $67M parcel of land in downtown Miami that Miami Dade College hurriedly transferred to the state this week so that it can be gifted to the Trump Presidential Library.
“There was a lot of sacrifice in order to gain that piece of land for the expansion of the college…"

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— SFDB (@sfdb.bsky.social) September 25, 2025 at 4:59 PM

As the state of Florida prepares to hand over more than $67 million worth of downtown Miami real estate to President Donald Trump for a future presidential library and hotel, former Miami-Dade College President Eduardo J. Padrón calls the move “unimaginable” and a loss for Miami’s future.

Padrón, president emeritus of Miami Dade College and the namesake for one of its campuses, said the land that’s been transferred to the state was meant for an expansion of the college’s Wolfson campus to accommodate its growing student population…

Miami Dade College’s Board of Trustees voted this week to transfer a downtown lot next to Miami’s iconic Freedom Tower to the state — in a special meeting with an advance notice that merely noted trustees would discuss: “potential real estate transactions.”

Trustee Roberto Alonso said the board received a request from Gov. Ron DeSantis’ office on Tuesday, Sept. 16 asking the college to convey the property to the state, without any additional detail…

NBC News reported that the president and his family hope to turn the site into a library with an attached hotel — the first presidential library to become a hotel development.

Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier wrote on social media platform X that on Sept. 30, the state cabinet would vote on gifting the land to the Presidential Library Foundation…

Uthmeier and Florida Chief Financial Officer Blaise Ingoglia each have posted online that they look forward to gifting the plot of land to Trump. Each was appointed to their positions by DeSantis after former Attorney General Ashley Moody was appointed to the U.S. Senate, and former CFO Jimmy Patronis was elected to Congress…

The lot lies across from the Kaseya Center, a major venue for Miami Heat basketball games and large music concerts. On the other side of the street sits the iconic Freedom Tower, where hundreds of thousands of Cuban refugees were processed in the 1960s, a property owned by the college.

Numerous downtown attractions like Bayfront Park, Bayside Marketplace, the Perez Art Museum and the Frost Science Museum are within walking distance, making it one of the few undeveloped tracts of land in the city center…


NBC helpfully adds:

… The Freedom Tower was also the site of Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s 2016 presidential launch, and has long been a venue for major Florida political events.

The Trump administration has ended the Cuban, Haitian, Nicaraguan and Venezuelan parole program, a Joe Biden-era policy that allowed citizens from those countries with a sponsor to stay in the United States for up to two years and apply for work permits. The move impacted 500,000 people from those countries.

The GOP-dominated Florida state Legislature paved the way for the Trump library, passing legislation this year that would remove the ability of local authorities to oversee the construction of any presidential library. The bill was aimed to box out Democratic-leaning local officials in South Florida from having control over decision-making related to construction.

Though Trump won Miami-Dade County in 2024, with heavy support from traditionally GOP-leaning Cuban voters, it has historically been a Democratic stronghold in the state, and the party still has a strong presence locally…

Trump protects ‘his’ properties the way an actual rhino marks territory — tearing up the ground, spraying urine, and piling up middens of dung.

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    1. 1.

      NotMax

      September 28, 2025 at 1:27 am

      FYI.

      New Dolt-appointed judge won’t swallow the Kool-aid.

      Reply
    2. 2.

      Fair Economist

      September 28, 2025 at 1:27 am

      A library with every book Trump ever read will leave a LOT of room for a hotel.

      Reply
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      NotMax

      September 28, 2025 at 1:32 am

      NIMBY suit that the proposed monstrosity will lower property values and increase congestion is not without merit.

      Reply
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      prostratedragon

      September 28, 2025 at 1:41 am

      Just revolting. And marble?!

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      Harrison Wesley

      September 28, 2025 at 1:44 am

      Damn. I was so sure it would be at Four Seasons Total Landscaping.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      prostratedragon

      September 28, 2025 at 1:46 am

      Eric Umansky on Portland:

      So top Portland cops wrote & *testified* that fed agents have been “instigating and causing” conflict.

      They said agents were firing pepper balls unprovoked and “without any apparent warning”

      When a Portland chief called a federal agent w/ Qs, the agent hung up.

      oregonlive.com/crime/2025/09/federal-cops-instigating-confrontations-with-protesters-outside-ice-bui…

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    7. 7.

      JoyceH

      September 28, 2025 at 1:53 am

      @prostratedragon: you have to remember that in any Trump project, when they say “marble”, think manufactured composite.

      Reply
    8. 8.

      NotMax

      September 28, 2025 at 2:01 am

      @prostratedragon

      “What a revoltin’ development this is.”
      – Chester A. Riley
      ;)

      Reply
    9. 9.

      JoyceH

      September 28, 2025 at 2:27 am

      I suppose we might have known that Trump would choose Grand Central Hurricane Station for the site of his library. So since climate change is a hoax, every time the place gets pasted by a hurricane, we can all say, “must have been God’s will”.

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    10. 10.

      Ten Bears

      September 28, 2025 at 2:31 am

      It will be underwater before it is built. Drumpf uck may claim rising seas are a hoax but rising seas and I know better. Floriduh has no future, it will not exist …

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    11. 11.

      Tehanu

      September 28, 2025 at 2:47 am

      Appropriate cap, showcasing the gulf in Jabba the Dump’s head.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      Harrison Wesley

      September 28, 2025 at 2:49 am

      @Ten Bears: Yo,dude, gimme a couple of years, anyway! I could move to the Old Country but LOML doesn’t agree. So desun,desurf,and DiSantis it is.  Doubt if either of us will be around for the Last Wave, though.

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    13. 13.

      SpaceUnit

      September 28, 2025 at 3:04 am

      Florida is about to hand over some of the most valuable land in the entire state to President Trump.

      Yeah, but it’s still Florida.  Mosquitos and swamps, alligators and invasive snakes, hurricanes and sinkholes, heat, humidity and flying cockroaches, Spring breakers and dead-enders on golf carts all giving one another STD’s, adopted home to the country’s meth-heads and high school drop outs, America’s fucking cesspool state.

      It’s perfect, and he’s welcome to it.  Florida Man Library.  I’ll donate a dollar.

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    14. 14.

      Harrison Wesley

      September 28, 2025 at 3:07 am

      @SpaceUnit: Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    15. 15.

      SpaceUnit

      September 28, 2025 at 3:19 am

      @Harrison Wesley:

      You’re welcome.

       

      And apologies (kinda sorta) to all the decent Florida folks on this blog.

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      frosty

      September 28, 2025 at 3:22 am

      Minor pedantic pissoffitis. Could they have used the word giving instead of gifting? Or is gifting used to indicate there’s some graft and corruption going on? As in grift.

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      TS

      September 28, 2025 at 4:03 am

      graft, grift and stealing from the state – and they voted for this? The US is a third rate has been.

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    18. 18.

      Tony Jay

      September 28, 2025 at 4:26 am

      Florida Maga Party + Stealing from kids’ Futures + Presidential Hotel Complex with bookcases = Trump-brand cheap & tacky.

      Then there’s the Ryder Cup. I’m very much not a golf aficionado, but it would take a heart of stone not to enjoy the sight of Maga Party approved arseholeness inspiring the European team to kick seven shades of crap out of Bradley’s players.

      I don’t think Don-O will be turning up to present this trophy.

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      Harrison Wesley

      September 28, 2025 at 4:30 am

      @frosty: I think gifting is supposed to make people more aware that there’s money involved.

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      satby

      September 28, 2025 at 4:46 am

      On the bright side, just another fraudulently acquired asset to strip him of in the future when sanity returns to this country.

      Bet a lot of the people kicking in on a future “presidential library” fully expect the fucker will kick off before they have to make good on their pledges.

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    21. 21.

      Geminid

      September 28, 2025 at 4:48 am

      From Tel Aviv-based journalist Guy Elster:

          Moldovans are voting today (Sunday) in parliamentary elections that may determine the current government’s efforts to join the European Union, amid the strengthening of pro-Russsian forces seeking to distance the small country from the bloc.

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    22. 22.

      Geminid

      September 28, 2025 at 5:38 am

      The Times of Israel obtained a copy of the 21-point Gaza plan that Trump presented to seven Arab and Muslim leaders at the UN Tuesday. Reporter Jacob Magid says the copy was “authenticated by two sources familiar with the matter,” and it tracks the broad outlines already reported by multiple sources.

      Magid lays out the plan in an article titled, “Revealed: US plan for ending Gaza war, creating pathway to Palestinian state.”

      I’ll try to link it:

      https://www.timesofisrael.com/revealed-us-21-point-plan-for-ending-gaza-war-creating-pathway-to-palestinian-state

      The link works. The article is not too long and worth reading.

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    23. 23.

      Baud

      September 28, 2025 at 5:38 am

      #NotAllYoungWhiteGuys via Reddit.

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    24. 24.

      Baud

      September 28, 2025 at 5:38 am

      @Geminid:

      Is it different from all of the prior plans?

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    25. 25.

      J.

      September 28, 2025 at 5:41 am

      Disgusting but totally not surprising. So will Ivanka/Jared be in charge? It’s right in their backyard.

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      NotMax

      September 28, 2025 at 6:03 am

      @Geminid

      “A pathway.” In other words, “Don’t hold your breath.”

      Reply
    27. 27.

      NotMax

      September 28, 2025 at 6:07 am

      @J.

      Jared can sell the tickets for those wanting to sit in the cockpit of the Qatari jet.

      Reply
    28. 28.

      Geminid

      September 28, 2025 at 6:56 am

      @Baud: I would say the plan builds on the agreement signed in late January and abrogated by Israel in March. But it differs in several respects.

      For one thing, the hostage prisoner exchange is condensed. Hamas and its allies would release all living and deceased hostages within 48 hours of agreement. Israel would then release several hundred “security prisoners” convicted of terrorism crimes including many with life sentences, as well as one thousand prisoners detained since October 7, 2023. Under the previous agreement, hostage/prisoner exchanges, were incremental.

      The main differences is this plan resolves the issues that were to be negotiated in Phase Two of the previous plan; cutting to the chase so to speak. That actually is consistent with the original agreement, under which the mediators– the US, Egypt and Qatar– were to decide questions the adversaries– Israel and Hamas — could not agee on.

      First and foremost is question of security. The IDF would make a phased withdrawal from the Gaza, and security responsibility be turned over to an international “stabilization force” under U.S. auspices but with no U.S. troops. My guess it would led by the UAE with troops from other Arab and Muslim nations.

      They would be charged with training and supporting a Palestinian police force. My guess is they will end end up with a lot of men affiliated with the Ramallah-based Palestinian Authority, because there are a lot still in Gaza.

      But the P.A. itself would have no formal role in governance. A “technocratic” government of Palestinians would be responsible for civil administration.

      These points are consistent with the plan the Saudis floated, back in February of last year. Egypt, Jordan and the UAE endorsed it.

      The disposition of remaining fighters under command of Hamas and other militias is also consistent. They would be evacuated to Arab or Muslim countries, like Arafat and the PLO were evacuated to Tripoli from Beirut in 1982. In this though, I suspect the host countries won’t allow them to set up as armed entities. The Saudis indicated that Algeria might take some fighters, so maybe some would end up there. Others might end up in Turkiye and Qatar.

      Some fighters wiould be allowed to stay in Gaza if they foreswear further violent activities. That’s been a condition of release for the security prisoners already exchanged by Israel. It’s in effect an amnesty for past actions but not for future ones.

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    29. 29.

      Baud

      September 28, 2025 at 7:02 am

      @Geminid:

      Thanks!

      As with past plans, fingers crossed.

      Reply
    30. 30.

      prostratedragon

      September 28, 2025 at 7:02 am

      @JoyceH:  For flooring in a high traffic area, the real thing would be.much less durable than terrazzo, which is the manufactured composite. Of course, decorating guides do  say that staining can be an issue in formulating the terrazzo compound.

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      Geminid

      September 28, 2025 at 7:28 am

      @NotMax: The Times of Israel article I link to is worth reading if this point interests you. Reporter Jacob Magid says he was paraphrasing the text of 21-point at the request of the person who provided it. I think because the exact language is still being negotiated.

      As paraphrased, the language indicating a pathway to a Palestinian State is vague and indirect. But in its totality, this agreement sets the process in motion, on a five year timeline.

      The mediators want this Israeli government to sign as soon as possible, and I think that is why the terms are indefinite enough for Netanyahu to claim he’s making no commitments in that area. But as Noga Tarnopolskys, Netanyahu “lies as he breaths.”.

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      Geminid

      September 28, 2025 at 7:59 am

      @Geminid: Another provision in the 21-point plan covers the eventuality that Hamas won’t sign. In that case, the multi-national stabilization forces would still take over areas as the IDF withdraws from them, and begin standing up a police force.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Baud

      September 28, 2025 at 8:01 am

      @Geminid:

      They’ll end up fighting Hamas themselves then, no?

      Still better than the current situation.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Searcher

      September 28, 2025 at 8:12 am

      The crazy thing to me is that an 80 year old billionaire with grandchildren wants nothing more than to spend his remaining years running one more real estate grift, stiffing contractors one more time.

      It disgusts me that so many people look at this empty void of greed embodied and think it’s normal.

      Reply
    35. 35.

      Professor Bigfoot

      September 28, 2025 at 8:28 am

      @Searcher: The crazy thing to me is that an 80 year old billionaire with grandchildren wants nothing more than to spend his remaining years running one more real estate grift, stiffing contractors one more time.

      It is literally the only damn thing he knows how to do.

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    36. 36.

      Geminid

      September 28, 2025 at 8:33 am

      @Baud: I expect Hamas remnants left by the IDF to surrender to the Arab peacekeepers, and civilian population to turn in those won’t. I think Gazans will very happy to see Emirati troops deploy from Rafah.That will be their first good day in two years.

      There could be Egyptian troops too. Morocco would probably send troops, and the President of Indonesia has offered to send as many as 20,000.

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    37. 37.

      Professor Bigfoot

      September 28, 2025 at 8:54 am

      @Geminid: You know that old one about what we call those people who joined the NSDAP not because they hated Jews but because it was the way to get ahead? To advance ones career?

      Yeah, but for the lowest level Hamas people, how many joined because it was the only way to feed their babies?

      (I suspect THOSE guys will be the first to turn themselves in and hand over their weapons, but it does illustrate the problem: whose parole can those Arab troopers trust?)

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      Baud

      September 28, 2025 at 8:55 am

      @Geminid:

      I hope it works. I also think, if it does, a lot of people are going to be surprised how quickly the world looks forward, not back.

      Reply
    39. 39.

      Geminid

      September 28, 2025 at 9:40 am

      @Professor Bigfoot: Hamas and the other militias attracted young men who were dedicated to the cause but also wanted jobs and status. They may decide civilian life is good enough; this will be an interesting story. If the reconstruction comes off there will be jobs. Maybe surviving fighters will settle for a paycheck and good satellite TV access so they can watch Premier League football, and the World Cup.

      In the long run though, the reconstruction needs to lead to a sustainable economy. Gazans are a fairly well-educated people so that will help.

      Reply

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