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Monday Morning Open Thread: Catching Up

by Anne Laurie|  January 12, 20267:56 am| 121 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., LGBTQ Rights Are Human Rights, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Trumpery, Our Failed Media Experiment

Wanda Sykes presented an award at the Golden Globes to Ricky Gervais, who didn’t show up. ‘He would like to thank God,’ she said, ‘and the trans community,”

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— Vulture (@vulture.com) January 11, 2026 at 11:10 PM

Wanda Sykes killing it.

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— East of Barrie (@eastofbarrie.bsky.social) January 11, 2026 at 11:07 PM

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I’m assuming that if it gets through the Senste that’s exactly what he will do. And that too few Republicans will vote to override & it fails. That is a very bad outcome & will harm tens of millions. But it’s also giving in a club to Democrats & saying “please bludgeon me to political death”

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— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) January 12, 2026 at 12:04 AM

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Frey: "I think the initial impetus to come to MN was to arrest & deport a bunch of Somali people. They got here & realized the Somali people that would be deported are all citizens. Then they turned their ire toward our Latino community & others. These are communities that make Mpls a better place."

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) January 10, 2026 at 11:58 AM

Philadelphia sheriff Rochelle Bilal:
“No law enforcement professional wears a mask…No law enforcement professional shoots at a moving vehicle.
“What Trump’s private army is doing…is not only against legal law, but moral law.”
Vows to arrest agents on site who commit crimes.

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— Jay Kirell (@jasonkirell.bsky.social) January 9, 2026 at 5:11 PM

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Pete Hegseth is the least qualified Defense Secretary we've ever had and his open contempt for women in the military is a slap in the face to those who have put their lives on the line to keep us safe.

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— Senator Patty Murray (@murray.senate.gov) January 10, 2026 at 1:54 PM

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Donald Trump’s assault on the Fed’s independence continues, threatening the strength and stability of our economy.
This is the kind of bullying that we’ve all come to expect from Donald Trump and his cronies. Anyone who is independent and doesn’t just fall in line behind Trump gets investigated.

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— Chuck Schumer (@schumer.senate.gov) January 11, 2026 at 10:00 PM

Jay Powell and the Fed aren’t the reason Trump’s economy and his poll numbers are in the toilet. If he’s looking for the person who caused that he should look in the mirror.

— Chuck Schumer (@schumer.senate.gov) January 11, 2026 at 10:00 PM

He said more than that. He said it was a pretext to intimidate the Fed into obeying the President's wishes on interest rates.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) January 11, 2026 at 8:02 PM

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“It would break NATO apart if Trump invaded Greenland”
No, it wouldn’t. Trump giving that order means he’s no longer President. NATO would remain.
“There must be consequences if Trump ordered an invasion of Greenland”
Yes, the consequence being Trump would no longer be President.

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— Queerhawk 🏳️‍🌈 | 🇺🇦 | 🛡 (@alwaysadorecats.bsky.social) January 10, 2026 at 2:39 PM

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Malaysia and Indonesia become the first countries to block Grok, the artificial intelligence chatbot developed by Elon Musk’s xAI, after authorities said it was being misused to generate sexually explicit and non-consensual images.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) January 12, 2026 at 1:30 AM

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this was what throwing away our democracy and everything good America has ever stood for was worth, the NYT getting to sit down in the Oval Office with the President for hours of him not doing his job and lying to their faces.

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— Henry (@henrythedog.bsky.social) January 11, 2026 at 9:53 PM


Gift link. Spoiler: It’s as fully toothless & sycophantic as you would expect.

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Tuesday Morning Open Thread: C.R.E.A.M. vs the GOP

by Anne Laurie|  December 30, 20256:45 am| 160 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Stupidity, Trumpery

This year, instead of lowering costs for you, Donald Trump has worked hard to make himself, his family, and his billionaire buddies even richer.

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— Elizabeth Warren (@warren.senate.gov) December 29, 2025 at 4:07 PM

The Affordable Care Act tax credits expire in five days.
House Republicans refuse to come back to Washington to vote on an extension.
You deserve better.

— Hakeem Jeffries (@hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social) December 27, 2025 at 9:43 AM

(sigh) They haven't posted the actual press release w/the hard numbers yet, but once again, a HUGE chunk of those 15M are likely people who passively auto-renewed without realizing that their premiums are about to double or triple.
I'd expect a large number to drop their coverage next month.

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— Charles GetCovered-ba ?? (@charlesgaba.com) December 23, 2025 at 3:18 PM

Financial analyst John Cassidy, at the New Yorker — “The Biggest Threat to the 2026 Economy Is Still Donald Trump”:

In a prime-time address from the Oval Office last week, Donald Trump said, “We are poised for an economic boom the likes of which the world has never seen.” This was the sort of bloviating that has convinced many voters he’s hopelessly out of touch, but it did raise the question of how the economy is likely to perform in 2026, a midterm-election year. Given the data fog that the government shutdown created, the old joke applies more than ever: it’s difficult to make predictions, especially about the future. But some things seem reasonably clear.

Right now, the economy is working in the Democrats’ favor. Concerns about affordability have refused to abate: the latest weekly poll by YouGov/The Economist indicates that Americans still consider “inflation/prices” to be the most important policy issue, and just a third of them approve of how Trump is handling it. Meanwhile, it looks like G.D.P. growth for 2025 will come in at about two per cent—one percentage point lower than it was in the last two years of the Biden Administration—and the unemployment rate is ticking up. When Joe Biden left office, it was four per cent; now it is 4.6 per cent.

Still, November is a long way away, and observers outside the Oval Office, including Jerome Powell and his colleagues at the Fed, have been raising their estimates of how the economy might perform in the New Year. “Fiscal policy is going to be supportive. And, as I mentioned, A.I. spending will continue,” Powell said at a press conference earlier this month. “The consumer continues to spend. So, it looks like the baseline will be solid growth next year.” Many economists on Wall Street concur. In releasing its global outlook for 2026 last week, Goldman Sachs upped its prediction for U.S. growth to 2.6 per cent: “The US is likely to outperform substantially . . . because of reduced tariff drag, tax cuts, and easier financial conditions.”…

President Trump said he might sue Federal Reserve Chair Jerome H. Powell for what he called “gross incompetence,” adding new tension to the already strained relationship between the White House and the independent central bank.

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— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost.com) December 29, 2025 at 5:45 PM


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… Speaking at a news conference beside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at Mar-a-Lago, Trump said “the guy is just incompetent.” Trump first brought up the Fed’s multibillion-dollar renovation project, which at times has become a stand-in for Trump’s ongoing attacks on the Fed system.

“It’s gross incompetence against Powell,” Trump said, adding: “We’re going to probably bring a lawsuit against him.”

Trump threatened a “major lawsuit” against Powell over the summer, but he never followed through. It wasn’t clear what specific claims Trump was referring to Monday, or how or when a suit could be brought. The White House did not respond to a request for more information…

The Fed’s renovation project isn’t the only way Trump has put pressure on the bank. White House officials and their allies routinely call for lower interest rates, even though monetary policy is supposed to be siloed off from politics. Trump has threatened to oust Powell and has tried to fire Federal Reserve governor Lisa Cook, setting up an ongoing legal battle over a president’s ability to remove central bankers.

Trump administration officials have alleged Powell either lied to Congress about the renovation or grossly mismanaged the project. Over the summer, when Trump’s criticism was most acute, the price tag for the project had swelled to nearly $2.5 billion, up from an estimate of $1.9 billion before the pandemic. The health crisis and ensuing economic upheaval caused materials such as steel and cement to go up in price, the Fed has said…

Not enough top-quality marble in the plans, probably…

He is turning everything he touches into one of his tacky casinos—at taxpayer expense—while the American people can’t afford rent, healthcare, or groceries. Utterly insane.

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— Representative Jim McGovern (@repmcgovern.bsky.social) December 29, 2025 at 8:39 PM

I think you should take away the old people's in home care it's a brilliant political decision

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) December 29, 2025 at 9:49 PM

60% of Americans can’t afford the basics.
Costs for groceries, utility bills, and health care are skyrocketing.
Yet Republicans have the nerve to call affordability a "hoax.”

— Katherine Clark (@whipkclark.bsky.social) December 29, 2025 at 2:43 PM

lol i cannot express how unpopular this is going to be

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) December 23, 2025 at 10:46 AM

An administration so laser focused on annihilating their own voters that it literally beggars belief.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) December 23, 2025 at 11:05 AM

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Open Thread: President Make-A-Wish’s Latest Mil-Toy Fantasy

by Anne Laurie|  December 23, 20256:19 pm| 170 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Military, Open Threads, Trumpery

Every announcement is Peak Vulgar, zero class.

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— Mark Chadbourn (@chadbourn.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 5:06 PM

Per Breaking Defense, “Trump announces new Trump-class ‘battleship’ as part of ‘Golden Fleet’”

… “They’ll be the fastest, the biggest and by far, 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built,” Trump said at his Mar-A-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla. “Battleships are the largest, sturdiest and most heavily armed vessel built specifically for naval combat. While America has built many new warships over the years, they’ve tended to be smaller, much smaller, and not conducive to where we are and where we’re going — peace through strength.”

Trump, flanked by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, Navy Secretary John Phelan and Secretary of State Marco Rubio, also said the Navy would aim to quickly start building two battleships, but that the class could ultimately have between 20 and 25 ships. Photos on display on each side of Trump suggested at least one of the “Trump class” ships would be named “USS Defiant.”

The new “battleship” is planned to be around 30,000-40,000 tons — considerably larger than the Navy’s current fleet of destroyers — and capable of using a variety of future weapons, such as electromagnetic railguns and hypersonic munitions. Trump said the new ships would also carry nuclear-armed sea-launched missiles, creating what Navy Secretary John Phelan amounted to a new nuclear deterrent.

“These new battleships will stand as the centerpiece of the Navy’s Golden Fleet initiative and will be the first of its kind providing dominant firepower and a decisive advantage over adversaries by integrating the most advanced deep-strike weapons of today with the revolutionary systems of the years ahead,” the Navy said in a statement following Trump’s announcement.

The Wall Street Journal, which first reported Trump’s plans, wrote that the Navy will launch a competition to find a vendor and plans to procure the first ship in 2030…

President Make-A-Wish's Latest Mil-Toy Fantasy

This exists entirely to make Trump feel good & maybe direct money to something that will be useful when he's gone

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— Chatham Harrison dba TRUMP DELENDUS EST (@chathamharrison.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 6:37 PM

Trump’s press conference today was among his more haywire performances, and his slushy delivery and meandering answers will not halt speculation about his cognitive health.
www.theatlantic.com/politics/202…

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— Tom Nichols (@radiofreetom.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 11:55 PM

Tom Nichols, at the Atlantic, on “Trump’s Vanity Fleet” [gift link]:

Imagine the CEO of a car company telling his engineers and designers that he wants them to make a new line of automobiles. He knows nothing about cars and has no interest in how they’re produced, but he knows one thing for certain: The line will be named after himself. Everyone claps—because of course they do—but no one really knows what comes next, except that the line needs to look sexy and sporty…

Trump and Navy Secretary John Phelan did make some news today. (Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegeseth were also on hand, but they limited themselves to some standard-issue sycophancy.) First, we learned that the president of the United States clearly has no idea what battleships are. Second, the United States is going to invest in a new class of naval vessel. Third, America is going to reverse more than 30 years of wise policy by putting nuclear weapons back on U.S. Navy surface vessels.

Trump announced that the new Trump-class ships will be “battleships,” but they seem to be supersize versions of the existing workhorse of the Navy, the Arleigh Burke–class destroyers; the first ship, called the Defiant, will be about three times the size of a Burke. The Navy has also announced the development of a new class of frigates. Destroyers and frigates, as the Navy knows (and as the commander in chief should know) are not battleships. Battleships are huge and powerful, and are meant to dish out —and withstand—serious punishment. Destroyers and frigates are less rugged, and perform missions that require more speed and agility than battleships can muster. But none of that matters: The goal, apparently, was to give a childlike president a new toy, named after himself, in exchange for gobs of money that the Navy will figure out how to spend later.

Indeed, defense investors cheered the announcement, but the spending will likely come much later, because the United States does not have the capacity to build vessels it hasn’t even designed yet. Trump told a reporter today that he expects the first ship to arrive in two and a half years, which is possible if the Navy slaps some gold paint on a Burke class, adds some missiles, and then stencils USS TRUMP on the side. But the last time the Navy really tried to create a new kind of ship—the Zumwalt-class destroyer—the process took years and ended in failure…

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As with all Trump vanity projects, no one seems to be asking what national purpose is served by these new plans. Does the Navy need new ships? What should it do with them if it gets them? Do they really need to be armed with nuclear weapons? The answer from the Trump administration, clearly, is: Who cares? As retired Rear Admiral Mark Montgomery told The Wall Street Journal, the Golden Fleet plan is “exactly what we don’t need”—but, he added, no one is focused on America’s maritime needs, because “they are focused on the president’s visual that a battleship is a cool-looking ship.”

Phelan might not know much about the Navy, but he knows Trump: He promised that the new Trump-class ships will inspire “awe and reverence” in any port they visit. But strategy is more than just giving lethal playthings to a president who has a simplistic understanding of ships. It is the art of making choices, an attempt to match means with ends. In a rational world, this would be the thinking driving the acquisition of weapons.

I taught military officers for more than two decades at the Naval War College. One thing I learned from conversations with my students was that the Navy really needs to invest more in its officers and sailors, and reduce the tempo of operations that are burning them out. The best ships in the world won’t mean much if their crews are fatigued and poorly trained. As the defense analyst John Ferrari recently wrote, for years, the Navy has been “structurally compromised” because its people are exhausted, its ships are “aging faster than they could be repaired,” and the fleet’s readiness is declining. These are serious problems that require serious work, but Trump has found a way around all of this irritating chatter by sticking his name on a new ship and telling the military to go build it…

said it for ten years but donald trump is just a make a wish kid that wouldn’t ever fuck off and die

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— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 4:24 PM

he’s trying to get his name on as much shit as possible because he is one hundred percent on the road to the big adios
panic button shit

— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 4:51 PM

Looking forward to the rush of articles from Heritage* and Hudson explaining that sure carriers were dead *last week* but *this week* a massive 30,000 ton battleship with modern, paper armor is not just going to be deleted by an anti-ship missile within minutes.
(*if anyone still works at Heritage)

— "Online Rent-a-Sage" Bret Devereaux (@bretdevereaux.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 6:06 PM

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— Hemry, Local Bartender (@bartenderhemry.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 10:34 PM

donald trump is basically indistinguishable from a fourth grade boy
new cool boats, robots make them

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— not an art thief (@famousartthief.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 5:52 PM

turns out there's already a USS Defiant.
It is a tugboat.
military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Defiant…

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— Gautham Rao (@gauthamrao.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 11:06 PM

I only recognize one USS Defiant

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— ncc-74210.bsky.social (@ncc-74210.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 5:28 PM

Q: In terms of the mission, do you see these ships as a counter to China?
TRUMP: It's a counter to everybody. It's not China. We get along great with China.

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— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) December 22, 2025 at 5:39 PM

The Japanese Maritime Self-Defense force working on railguns instead of modular gold-plated hulls.

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— B. A. Friedman (@bafriedman.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 7:58 PM

Golden fleet, golden dome, gold TrumpCard immigration visa, please stop. This is comic book villain shit where Doctor Giraffe has to make every goddamn thing giraffe themed just in case Spectacular Man didn’t get the message sent by the giraffe suit.

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— Starfish Who Can’t Think Something Witty (@irhottakes.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 2:50 PM

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Tuesday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  December 23, 20257:20 am| 222 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You


 

Life is too expensive in the United States.
And Republicans have done nothing about it.
You deserve better.

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— Hakeem Jeffries (@hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social) December 21, 2025 at 10:34 AM

laser focused on raising costs for everyday americans

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— Reconstructionist (@unavaleable.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 4:33 PM

Trump’s attack on the CFPB is hurting families — 21 states and DC are fighting back.
Their new lawsuit details how starving the agency of funding would turn off the consumer complaint database that has helped millions of Americans at the end of their rope after getting scammed.

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— Elizabeth Warren (@warren.senate.gov) December 22, 2025 at 6:32 PM

Health care rises sharply as Americans' priority for the government to address following a year of cuts, new AP-NORC poll finds.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) December 19, 2025 at 7:13 AM

Yes, Mike Johnson has weird, retrograde views on women.
But it’s so much worse.
His leadership is a threat to the health and security that should be our daughters’ birthright.
Read more in my op-ed for the Boston Globe.
www.bostonglobe.com/2025/12/20/o…

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— Katherine Clark (@whipkclark.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 11:05 AM

This is what happens when billionaires control the press.
Corporate media execs at @cbsnews.com are pulling punches to protect profits & make sure their next big merger gets approved.
This self-censorship is awful for journalism & terrible for democracy.

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— Representative Jim McGovern (@repmcgovern.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 5:18 PM

i don't know if we're gonna get a real farm crisis but does seem like we're getting a meatpacking crisis

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— Reconstructionist (@unavaleable.bsky.social) December 22, 2025 at 9:12 PM

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Monday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  December 22, 20256:53 am| 171 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Music, Open Threads

Can’t see the product for the marketing… Per the NYTimes, “Real or Fake? There’s a War Over Christmas … Trees”:

… Advertising is difficult for agricultural products, even those in high demand. Consumers might know a few brands, at best, but not the thousands of farmers who produce for them. So for almost every fruit, vegetable or animal, there is an organization dedicated to marketing it, funded by small fees paid by producers.

These groups advertise, develop new recipes, buy a Super Bowl commercial for Mexican avocados or, in the case of raisins in the 1980s, create Claymation characters and a television series. They hope these efforts will persuade consumers to buy more of their products.

But most people aren’t going to buy multiple Christmas trees, purchase them in July or find new uses for them. So figuring out how to induce demand in a declining industry falls upon the shoulders of Marsha Gray, executive director of the Real Christmas Tree Board.

The board’s mission is to persuade Americans to buy live-cut trees, and its main point is that live-cut trees are real, while plastic trees stored in a box are fake…

The fight is daunting. According to the American Farm Bureau Federation, an agricultural lobbying organization, the value of imported artificial trees has doubled in the last decade, though that fell this year as fewer were imported because of tariffs on China. The United States also has 35 percent fewer acres dedicated to producing Christmas trees than it did 20 years ago.

Ms. Gray has an advertising budget of less than $1 million annually, mostly spent on media awareness and some small online search campaigns. Which is why the entire Christmas tree industry is so excited by Home Depot’s latest ad.

Its big Christmas commercial this year features a North Carolina Christmas tree farm and follows a young boy picking out a live-cut tree at one of its stores. Home Depot has spent about $10 million to air the commercial on national television over 1,000 times, according to iSpot, a television analytics company.

“It’s more than just a transactional purchase, the way we look at Christmas trees,” said Dan Stuppiello, the Home Depot executive in charge of live goods. “We try to create more of that festive environment.”…

 
(H/t commentor Opiejeanne)

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Open Thread: Turning (On Each Other) Point USA’s First Post-Charlie Convo

by Anne Laurie|  December 22, 20254:12 am| 78 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Republicans in Disarray!

At Turning Point, Erika Kirk acknowledges that major rifts have emerged in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
Rifts that could impact midterms.
“We saw infighting. We’ve seen fractures. We’ve seen bridges being burned that shouldn’t be burnt. We saw a lot on full display.”
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— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) December 18, 2025 at 7:49 PM

Bless Murphy the Trickster God, there are So.Many.Layers of infighting available for us outsiders’ delection here! Per the Associated Press, “Here’s what you missed at Turning Point’s chaotic convention”:

When Turning Point USA’s annual AmericaFest convention reached its halfway point, Erika Kirk tried to put a smiling face on things.

“Say what you want about AmFest, but it’s definitely not boring,” said Kirk, who has led the influential conservative organization since her husband Charlie was assassinated in September. “Feels like a Thanksgiving dinner where your family’s hashing out the family business.” …

Some of the biggest names in conservative media took turns torching each other on the main stage, spending more time targeting right-wing rivals than their left-wing opponents.

The feuds could ultimately define the boundaries of the Republican Party and determine the future of President Donald Trump’s fractious coalition, which appears primed for more schisms in the months and years ahead…

Ben Shapiro, co-founder of the conservative media outlet Daily Wire, set the tone with the first speech after Erika Kirk opened the convention. He attacked fellow commentators in deeply personal terms, saying some of the right’s most popular figures are morally bankrupt.

Candace Owens “has been vomiting all sorts of hideous and conspiratorial nonsense into the public square for years,” he said.

Megyn Kelly is “guilty of cowardice” because she’s refused to condemn Owens for spreading unsubstantiated theories about Kirk’s death.

And Tucker Carlson’s decision to host antisemite Nick Fuentes on his podcast was “an act of moral imbecility.”…

Barely an hour later, Carlson took the same stage and mocked Shapiro’s attempt to “deplatform and denounce” people who disagree with him.

“I watched it,” he said. “I laughed.”

Others had their chance the next night.

“Ben Shapiro is like a cancer, and that cancer spreads,” said Steve Bannon, a former Trump adviser…

I’m a Cynic, of course, but I gotta say that while the ‘celebrities’ on stage seem pretty pumped, the attendees (who paid to be there) look at best dutiful about the whole goat rodeo…

PHOTOS: Turning Point USA is holding its annual youth conference in Phoenix, where conservative influencers have clashed and the women have drawn inspiration from Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika Kirk.
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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) December 19, 2025 at 2:30 PM

The NYTimes is just short of gleeful — “Turning Point’s Annual Gathering Turns Into a Gripefest” [gift link]:

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Since 2021, Turning Point USA’s annual gathering, AmericaFest, has featured a star-studded roster of conservative influencers and politicians who have been virtually unified in their focus on a common foe, one that Charlie Kirk, the group’s co-founder, called the “woke” left.

But this weekend in Phoenix, speakers at AmericaFest have scarcely mentioned Democrats and other liberal foils. Instead, some of the most prominent right-wing leaders in the country have been criticizing members of their own movement, accusing them of being “frauds,” “pompous” and a “cancer.”

Driving the enmity have been some of the most explosive and unresolved issues confronting the MAGA movement: resurgent antisemitism, the prevalence of conspiracy theories and the rise of the concept of “heritage Americans” and what that concept — considered by some to be a thinly veiled racist dog-whistle — means for nonwhite conservatives…

Without Mr. Kirk, the movement’s boldface names have appeared to be jockeying this weekend to influence the direction of the MAGA movement at a time when its most towering figure, President Trump, is in his second term…

[Ben Shapiro] wielded a particularly pointed arrow at Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News host, for engaging in what he said was “an act of moral imbecility,” by recently airing a softball interview with Nick Fuentes, an avowed antisemite. Mr. Shapiro hammered Megyn Kelly, the podcaster, for failing to condemn Ms. Owens and Mr. Carlson. And he called Stephen K. Bannon, the onetime chief strategist for Mr. Trump, a former “P.R. flack for Jeffrey Epstein.”…
 
“He thinks he’s in a position to decide who must say what to whom and when,” Ms. Kelly, the former Fox News host, said in an onstage conversation with Jack Posobiec, the far-right conspiracy theorist. “So I don’t think we are friends anymore.”…
 
Dana Steuben, of Peoria, Ill., who has one daughter working for Turning Point and another serving as president of the Turning Point chapter at her high school, frowned when asked to compare this year’s conference with the 2024 version, which she also attended.

“The energy was so different,” Ms. Steuben said of the 2024 event. “Everyone was so excited because we’d just won the election. This year, it’s just a lot of infighting. It’s terrible. I think a lot of people are upset, and they’re acting childish.”…

TPUSA spox Andrew Kolvet says my coverage was “a disgusting smear.”
“It was not the tent where Charlie was assassinated. We made many of them for the tour and this was an entirely different tent. We put up the tent as a tribute to Charlie, who lost his life fighting for free speech and debate.“

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— Brandy Zadrozny (@brandyzadrozny.bsky.social) December 21, 2025 at 7:18 AM

CNN:

… The last time Turning Point held its AmericaFest conference, weeks after Trump’s comeback victory, the mood was ebullient as Republicans prepared for a new era of total control in Washington. The organization is known for highly produced events that feel more like rock concerts or megachurch services than political rallies, complete with pyrotechnics and floor-shaking bass.

Now the party faces challenging midterm elections, with Trump constitutionally prohibited from running again and his more ideologically motivated acolytes positioning themselves for after he leaves office. Meanwhile, conservatives have been roiled by conflicts over antisemitism in its ranks, which Trump has declined to mediate.

Shapiro said too many of his fellow conservatives are failing their audiences by winking at conspiratorial claims and claiming they’re “just asking questions.”

He also continued his criticism of Carlson for his friendly interview with Fuentes, whose followers, known as “groypers,” see themselves as working to preserve a white, Christian identity in America.

Shapiro said Charlie Kirk “knew that Nick Fuentes is an evil troll, and that building him up is an act of moral imbecility, and that is precisely what Tucker Carlson did.” …

Carlson denied being antisemitic, saying it is immoral to hate people for how they were born. He then downplayed the problem of anti-Jewish hate by claiming it’s less pervasive than bias against white men.

“That is racism that is precisely as bad as antisemitism, but it is much more widespread and has been so far much more damaging,” he said…

All the turmoil, he said, is about “who gets the machinery when the president exits the scene.” …

Worth listening to the clip below (but not if you’re eating), because it is a distillation of some of the saddest groping for relevance ever caught on tape:

“Nobody did more for me than Charlie.”
President Trump calls into Turning Point USA’s AmFest while his son Don Jr speaks.
He then tells the crowd to tell him if Don doesn’t do a good job.

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— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) December 21, 2025 at 1:10 PM

Politico, ever helpful (to the GOP), looks for the pony in the giant pile:

… The event wasn’t entirely heated. Actor Russell Brand — who spoke between Shapiro and Carlson — focused on Christianity, while sprinkling attacks on vaccines and the pharmaceutical industry into his remarks. And earlier in the day, attendees danced to upbeat music, repeatedly chanted “USA” and celebrated Trump’s return to the White House at the Phoenix Convention Center, which is plastered with imagery of Charlie Kirk. More than 30,000 people gathered for the event…

Erika Kirk — who now serves as Turning Point’s CEO — said 80 percent of attendees had never been to America Fest before, and one-third of them were students. More than 140,000 people have submitted requests to join the organization since Kirk’s death, bringing the membership to over 1 million people across 4,000 chapters at high schools and colleges, she added.

While the group has welcomed speakers from across the conservative movement, it made clear choices about which politicians to welcome to the stage, providing a glimpse into how the organization hopes to shape the future of the GOP. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and GOP Rep. Mike Collins, both candidates for Senate, and gubernatorial hopefuls Andy Biggs of Arizona and Byron Donalds of Florida, were given slots on the main stage…

God will someone find the writers and tell them to calm the fuck down

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) December 21, 2025 at 1:53 PM

minaj is on the verge of having her $20M home forcibly sold by the court to cover a $500K debt, in case you wonder what’s going on here

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— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) December 21, 2025 at 2:26 PM

I know people jump to the money thing too easily sometimes, but I can promise you she got paid for this.
Turning Point pays very well and she definitely got her standard travel package covered (private jet etc) and I would bet at least $500k if not $1 million + fee.

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) December 21, 2025 at 2:00 PM

Conspiracy world is going to go absolutely mad (madder) over this one. It’s gonna get clipped and analysed for weeks.

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— James Ball (@jamesrball.com) December 21, 2025 at 4:05 PM

Bring on the Sad Trombone!

I’d answer that, but George Soros hasn’t told me what to say yet.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) December 21, 2025 at 2:48 PM

This guy is gonna lose like Mondale.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) December 21, 2025 at 2:30 PM

Open Thread: Turning (On Each Other) Point USA’s First Post-Charlie ConvoPost + Comments (78)

Late Night Open Thread: Dan Bongino Makes His Exit

by Anne Laurie|  December 20, 20252:43 am| 37 Comments

This post is in: Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel, Schadenfreude

He found the job to be too fact-oriented.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) December 17, 2025 at 6:20 PM

Bongino’s announcement made a lot of people happy, and I’m not talking about his thousands of podcast listeners. Per MS-NOW, “FBI’s No. 2 confirms he’s moving on – Controversial deputy director has cleared out his office”:

… Bongino had quietly told confidants he planned to formally leave his job early in the new year and would not be returning to headquarters to work this month, according to eight people briefed on his account. He later confirmed the report on X…

With word of an impending departure has come speculation that Bongino is returning to podcasting, which reportedly made him worth $160 million.

In August, after Bongino privately sparred with Bondi, Trump took the unprecedented step of naming a co-deputy director to help share Bongino’s work, Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey.

MS NOW reported last month that Trump and his White House aides have been weighing whether to remove FBI Director Kash Patel and replace him with Bailey in the new year…

Bongino faced tremendous backlash from pro-Trump MAGA supporters related to the Jeffrey Epstein case, when he and fellow Justice Department leaders backtracked from earlier claims that the Epstein files contained a secret “client list” of prominent people that Epstein had kept as the fodder for potential blackmail…

“Listen, that Jeffrey Epstein story is a big deal, please do not let that story go. Keep your eye on this,” Bongino told his listeners in 2023. Bongino also suggested he had strong doubts about official government reports that Epstein had committed suicide in his jail cell.

Once inside the bureau, however, Bongino said in a television interview that he had concluded there was no evidence Epstein was murdered. The Justice Department and FBI issued a joint memo in July saying the Epstein files contained no client list, and the furor it unleashed from the MAGA movement led to an angry confrontation between Bongino and Attorney General Bondi in July…

Bongino has drawn disdain and ridicule from a wide swath of FBI agents…

One supposes that a successful podcaster must have a fine sense of timing:

fwiw I think “Bongino quit because of what he saw in the Epstein files” is a lot less likely than “Bongino was/is going to get blamed for the inevitable clusterfuck of the Epstein Files release”

— post malone ergo propter malone (@proptermalone.bsky.social) December 19, 2025 at 5:05 PM

True!

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Are all these blacked out pages why Bongino left to spend more time with his podcast?

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— Governor Newsom Press Office (@govpressoffice.gov.ca.gov) December 19, 2025 at 7:22 PM

I think working for a living was just a lot harder than he thought.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) December 19, 2025 at 5:36 PM

www.nytimes.com/2025/12/17/u…
Being unqualified, incompetent, and generally an absurd choice for a position is no barrier to working in this administration, but it does make it hard to actually do the job, and Bongino didn't like doing hard work.
Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey hey

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— Jacob T. Levy (@jacobtlevy.bsky.social) December 17, 2025 at 6:01 PM

… Mr. Bongino, a Long Island native, was one of several political appointees — including Kash Patel, the F.B.I. director — installed into senior positions at the bureau, a first in the agency’s history…

The upheaval comes at a precarious moment for the bureau and White House. Mr. Trump and his appointees see the F.B.I., which long operated independently of White House interference, as a critical part of his retribution agenda.

He is leaving on what he believes to be a high note.

But it involves a case — the capture of a man accused of planting pipe bombs at Republican and Democratic headquarters on the eve of the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol — that also illustrated the dizzying disconnect between his promotion of conspiracy theories and the realities imposed by real-world F.B.I. investigations.

After the arrest earlier this month, Mr. Bongino appeared on Sean Hannity’s Fox News show, where the host asked him to explain his previous claim that the case was an “inside job” abetted by a federal cover-up.

“I was paid in the past, Sean, for my opinions, that’s clear, and one day I will be back in that space — but that’s not what I’m paid for now,” Mr. Bongino said.

The willingness of Mr. Patel and Mr. Bongino to execute White House personnel directives — including firings and forced transfers without cause — alienated many current and former bureau officials, who have accused the pair of sacrificing the well-being of agents to preserve their place in the Trump pecking order.

The Trump administration has purged the bureau’s ranks of supervisors who have resisted efforts to fire agents involved in investigations related to Mr. Trump and the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Mr. Patel has upended norms by authorizing polygraph tests to determine if his subordinates had said unflattering things about him…

There’s something darkly amusing about MTG and Bongino leaving at roughly the same time, as they’re True Believers about elite pedophiles ruling everything and bailed after learning that the call was coming from inside the house

— A K (@aklingus.bsky.social) December 17, 2025 at 6:03 PM

Bongino is leaving to spend more time with his loved ones—conspiracy theorists and QAnon nutters.

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— David Corn (@davidcorn.bsky.social) December 17, 2025 at 4:27 PM

Bongino made his brand based on Trump and conspiracy theories, and now Trump and conspiracy theories are ruining that brand. Dan wants out before said brand becomes unsalvageable.

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— Khashoggi's Ghost (@urocklive1.bsky.social) December 17, 2025 at 4:11 PM

Bongino did everything necessary to cover up Trump’s involvement with Epstein and will return to being a disinformation agent to help Trump in the midterms

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— Joni Askola (@joniaskola.bsky.social) December 17, 2025 at 5:49 PM

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