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How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

by WaterGirl|  October 25, 202511:50 am| 56 Comments

This post is in: Democratic Response to Trump 2.0, Open Threads, Politics

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I think talking about the mental decline of FFOTUS is something we should be doing on a regular basis.  Don’t make it political.

  • I think the President is off his rocker.
  • I don’t know what happened, but he’s just not making sense anymore.
  • I’m kind of worried about the President’s mental health, seems like it’s going downhill.
  • Did you see the President rambling the other day? It seemed like he didn’t even know where he was.
  • I wonder if the strain of the office is getting to him, I heard the president say some crazy stuff yesterday.

Pick one, make up your own, but drop it everywhere you can.

It’s the new “It’s the economy, stupid!”

***

No, wait.  It’s Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.

***

No, it’s healthcare, and they are killing people with their evil policies.

***

No, it the breathtaking lawlessness.

We don’t declare war, we just murder people.  Like, you know, dead.


How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

One thing we can do is come up with “hit and run” statements for all of the categories listed.  Then we can have them at our fingertips to drop, whatever feels most relevant on any given day.

It can be our own little à la carte menu.

 

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    1. 1.

      bbleh

      October 25, 2025 at 11:57 am

      I think you just run through a litany, but always with a worried expression, kneading your hands etc., because you’re just SO worried about him, and about America!

      “I mean, I heard him rambling today, and why he sounds like my dad did when he was … well, almost at the end.  And they’re taking away people’s healthcare and I don’t know whether he even knows!  And he’s just killing people left and right, with all this bombing!  I mean, I’m just very worried about him, and about where the country is going …”

      Reply
    2. 2.

      WTFGhost

      October 25, 2025 at 12:05 pm

      How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

      You prioritize your survival, keeping in mind all the various challenges, assuming you intend to survive. Me, I protect everyone else the best I can.

      Any other silly questions?

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    3. 3.

      rivers

      October 25, 2025 at 12:05 pm

      Also – and if I cared about him at all, this would be even more heartfelt – where are his children? If one of my parents were talking and behaving in this way, I would be extremely concerned. It’s obvious that he needs help and there are cynical people surrounding him who are taking advantage of his diminished capacities.

      Reply
    4. 4.

      Socolofi

      October 25, 2025 at 12:09 pm

      Most people don’t care or will be in denial about most issues.

      Epstein is the kryptonite.

      Reply
    5. 5.

      mrmoshpotato

      October 25, 2025 at 12:10 pm

      @rivers:

      Also – and if I cared about him at all, this would be even more heartfelt – where are his children? 

      Busy being grifter shitbags just like their pile of shit rapist dad.

      Reply
    6. 6.

      different-church-lady

      October 25, 2025 at 12:13 pm

      How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

      Laugh.

      Reply
    7. 7.

      WaterGirl

      October 25, 2025 at 12:20 pm

      @Socolofi: So can you share some examples of “hit and run” lines that we could use about Epstein?

      Reply
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      H.E.Wolf

      October 25, 2025 at 12:21 pm

      @mrmoshpotato: ​
       Yes! And that’s exactly what we want our listeners to think of.

      Bore from within. I’m good at boring. :)

      Reply
    9. 9.

      goodmatt

      October 25, 2025 at 12:23 pm

      My summary is that this is the point where the parasites are killing the host.

      Reply
    10. 10.

      TONYG

      October 25, 2025 at 12:24 pm

      That’s a good analogy, but an imperfect one.  When natural disasters (floods, hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes) strike you normally do not have half the population OPENLY SUPPORTING the natural disasters.

      Reply
    11. 11.

      WaterGirl

      October 25, 2025 at 12:30 pm

      @TONYG: I would argue that it’s 1/3 or less, but I take your point.

      My point is that each of us who do not support what’s going on have a responsibility to do what we can.

      Sowing seeds of doubt is an incredibly low-risk was to resist and influence what’s happening.

      I’m suggesting we pool our thinking, which makes it even easier to do if we have a nice little menu of comments already in our virtual pockets.

      Reply
    12. 12.

      scav

      October 25, 2025 at 12:31 pm

      Ohhhh, I can now see why it was Republican policy to object to putting dementia patients in government housing: all they do is tear it down.

      Reply
    13. 13.

      mrmoshpotato

      October 25, 2025 at 12:32 pm

      @WaterGirl: Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself. -Comedian Steve Hofstetter

      Reply
    14. 14.

      Another Scott

      October 25, 2025 at 12:35 pm

      I try to think about what’s necessary to do to make the day after better.

      The monsters want us distracted.  They want us feeling helpless.  They want us to roll up in a ball and not use our power.

      As OO pointed out a few days ago, people have the power (5:05).

      Hang in there, everyone. Eyes on the prizes.

      Thanks.

      Best wishes,
      Scott.

      Reply
    15. 15.

      Kelly

      October 25, 2025 at 12:35 pm

      Hey the tsunami put out the wildfire so, progress!

      Reply
    16. 16.

      Ruckus

      October 25, 2025 at 12:37 pm

      @rivers:

      I’d bet his kids are just waiting.

      Reply
    17. 17.

      Ruckus

      October 25, 2025 at 12:38 pm

      @different-church-lady:

      I’d say keep your head down – and laugh.

      Reply
    18. 18.

      Enhanced Voting Techniques

      October 25, 2025 at 12:38 pm

      Apparently Trump is in a fight with Ronald Reagan’s corpse.

      youtu.be/Z9OYF6d-7FQ?si=VbY98mKaXnyejqIU

      Reply
    19. 19.

      MattF

      October 25, 2025 at 12:42 pm

      There’s a concerted effort on the right to sanewash Trump’s random and erratic actions. But because Trump’s behavior really doesn’t make any sense as, e.g., action aimed at some actual goal in the real world— what you get, in fact, is a view of some right-wing propagandist’s preferred outcome, whatever that may be. So, it’s easy to get diverted.

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    20. 20.

      Ruckus

      October 25, 2025 at 12:42 pm

      @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

      That makes about as much sense as anything else going on in that flower pot on his neck.

      Reply
    21. 21.

      Jeffg166

      October 25, 2025 at 12:54 pm

      Scarlett O’Hara would think about it tomorrow.

      Reply
    22. 22.

      rikyrah

      October 25, 2025 at 12:57 pm

      New host and theme song for Reading Rainbow 🌈 😄 🌞

       

      tiktok.com/t/ZP8D1r5M1/

      Reply
    23. 23.

      Melancholy Jaques

      October 25, 2025 at 12:58 pm

      One of our intractable problems is that the things that asshole does that are outrageous, crazy, or just plain stupid make him more popular. Not popular in the sense of well-liked, but in the sense of the star of the only show in town. We keep thinking and hoping that this or that act of madness will finally make a difference, but everybody who rejects him because of the bad things he does is already on our team.

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    24. 24.

      Melancholy Jaques

      October 25, 2025 at 1:00 pm

      @MattF:

      There’s a concerted effort on the right to sanewash Trump’s random and erratic actions.

      Not just on the right. Unless we are finally ready to admit that the CNN, WaPo, and FTFNYT are on the right.

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    25. 25.

      Baud

      October 25, 2025 at 1:03 pm

      @Melancholy Jaques:

      Agree. There’s political opposition to Trump, but there’s not really a cultural alternative to Trumpism.

      Reply
    26. 26.

      rikyrah

      October 25, 2025 at 1:04 pm

      @MattF:

      Truth,but it’s not working

      Reply
    27. 27.

      rikyrah

      October 25, 2025 at 1:05 pm

      @Melancholy Jaques:

      And those who don’t are awful people who would never come to our side anyway

      Reply
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      Kyle Rayner

      October 25, 2025 at 1:05 pm

      @TONYG: The analogy stands if you think about the people who snort and say it won’t be that bad, swear they can tough it out when it hits bc they’re the only ones who aren’t dainty scaredy cats, and remain to jealously guard their increasingly flooded property from looters. Which it then of course takes rescuers extra funds, time, and good brave people to go into the dangerous situation to pull them out before their stubbornness kills them, spreading their resources thin to help those who’d been trying to do everything right in the first place.

      It’s worth saving everyone, but goddamn it would be easier if people took the threats seriously from the get-go instead of taking pride in how well they can thrive in the same conditions that devastate others, namely those they perceive as less determined, rugged, and worthy of living there.

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      iKropoclast

      October 25, 2025 at 1:07 pm

      @Melancholy Jaques: Unless we are finally ready to admit that the CNN, WaPo, and FTFNYT are on the right.

      Come join me way back here in 2002.

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    30. 30.

      Another Scott

      October 25, 2025 at 1:09 pm

      Made me look…

      Steve Almond at WBUR, from September, 2019:

      […]

      Observers — particularly those troubled by the cruelty of his regime — tend to view Trump as lazy, incompetent, demagogic and mendacious. But it seems increasingly possible that the president’s behavior is also a function of his desperate attempts to mask serious cognitive struggles.

      Anyone who has dealt with a friend or relative in cognitive decline can tell you that the person in question almost never admits to their struggles. Instead, they go to elaborate lengths to hide their impairment.

      A person in cognitive decline — whether Democrat or Republican — shouldn’t control the nuclear codes.

      Maybe the reason our president is reported to spend up to nine hours per day engaged in “unstructured executive time” isn’t just because he’s lazy. Maybe he’s trying to duck parts of the job he can’t handle. Maybe the reason he doesn’t read anything — including briefings — is because he can’t absorb or retain complex concepts.

      Maybe the reason his unscripted speech is so often incoherent and littered with vagaries (relying on placeholder words such as “thing” and “they”) is because he cannot summon the specific vocabulary he wants to use.

      Maybe the reason Trump seeks out friendly media outlets and rallies is because he can only function in venues that feel safe and familiar, where no one will expose his struggles, where he can ramble and repeat the same slogans and stories and still receive applause.

      In her own way, my own mother employed similar forms of subterfuge. She sought out familiar environments, and routines. As she struggled to track conversations, her responses became more confused and confusing. And the more cognitive function she lost, the more irritable and defensive she became.

      Which brings us back to Trump and his increasingly defensive behavior.

      What many of us don’t understand about cognitive struggles is the tremendous shame people feel. Particularly people — like Trump — who are in constant danger of being exposed.

      Perhaps the reason he makes such a point of bragging about his big brain and his amazing memory is because he’s racked with doubts about both. Perhaps part of the reason his lies are so frequent and brazen — consider the whopper he told about why he skipped the climate change meeting at the G7 — is because he doesn’t have enough executive function to orchestrate his lies.

      I say none of this lightly.

      Trump is unfit for office based on his personal corruption, his disloyalty to the Constitution and his documented crimes.

      All of these offenses are predicated on the notion that Trump is, in fact, in control of his faculties. But what if he isn’t?

      That may sound like a partisan question, but it’s really a medical one. Simply put: a person in cognitive decline — whether Democrat or Republican — shouldn’t control the nuclear codes. We should all agree on that. And you can be sure that if a Democratic president behaved in the ways Trump does, Republicans would be howling for a thorough cognitive evaluation.

      […]

      Should is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, of course. :-(

      AS.Cornell.edu (from October 2024):

      Democrats and the Harris-Walz campaign are again taking aim at former President Trump’s mental acuity following his 30-minute music and head-popping detour during what was supposed to be a town hall event in Philadelphia Monday night.

      Harry Segal is a senior lecturer in the Psychology Department at Cornell University and in the Psychiatry Department at Weill Cornell Medicine. He says Trump’s awkward display at his rally was another clear sign of mental decline.

      Segal says: “What’s alarming is how the rate of Trump’s bizarre speech and political decisions have been increasing. He gave an answer about childcare to the Economic Club of New York so incoherent that even his supporters were concerned. Last week he got cognitively lost in a rally and began to talk about the ‘eight circles’ that Biden filled up with journalists. No one on his staff has been able to explain the reference.

      “Trump has shown evidence of dementia for the past year as indicated by his strange gait, phonemic paraphasia—when he begins a word and can’t finish it—and decline in the complexity of his words and concepts. This limited capacity explains his poor debate performance, but there are two more disturbing signs of his decline.

      “First, he is avoiding events where he has to respond coherently and spontaneously: He has refused a second presidential debate and abruptly cancelled a 60 Minutes interview. Second, he has become more impulsive, another sign of incipient dementia. This explains his strange behavior in Philadelphia – his abrupt decision to play DJ is yet another sign of his accelerating cognitive decline.”

      Some day, the norms and sensible processes of our government and politics will return. We need to do what we can to hasten that day, by voting the monsters out.

      Thanks.

      Best wishes,
      Scott.

      Reply
    31. 31.

      West of the Rockies

      October 25, 2025 at 1:13 pm

      @mrmoshpotato:

      This.

      Reply
    32. 32.

      Kyle Rayner

      October 25, 2025 at 1:20 pm

      WaterGirl, I really like where your head’s at even if it’s hard to think of anything right now. Having “insinuation, not accusation” rattle around in my head for a while will probably be useful.

      The concern oozing from the articles Another Scott quoted certainly feels effective.

      Reply
    33. 33.

      Bruce K in ATH-GR

      October 25, 2025 at 1:20 pm

      @Another Scott: I fear we’ll have to rebuild norms and sensitivities from the ground up, in the same sense that we’ll have to rebuild the East Wing from the ground up, and for the same reason: Trump and the GOP razed them to the ground.

      And that assumes that we survive as a nation, which is not really a given at this point.

      Reply
    34. 34.

      Enhanced Voting Techniques

      October 25, 2025 at 1:22 pm

      @Ruckus: That makes about as much sense as anything else going on in that flower pot on his neck.

      Indeed.

      There were comments about Trump sundowning during his first term. I was noticing Trump looked and talked like death warmed over in his own campaign commercials last October. Very strange so many people refuse to see that Trump’s brain is broken.

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    35. 35.

      West of the Rockies

      October 25, 2025 at 1:24 pm

      I think nationally we pound Republicans (and voters) with Epstein, inflation, health care costs, and the vague-ish country going in the wrong direction.

      I think such specific things as ballot access and immigration matter to most voters less than they do to us.  I’d hit those points, too, but not make them top priority. And stay the hell away from Trans rights and such.  YES, those are important issues (I have a Trans kid), but we need to hit voters and Republicans with the issues that will sway voters.  IOW, play offense, not defense.  YMMV.

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    36. 36.

      iKropoclast

      October 25, 2025 at 1:25 pm

      @Enhanced Voting Techniques: Very strange so many people refuse to see that Trump’s brain is broken.

      Hard to admit when, not only is it not an obstacle for him communicating their preferred politics effectively, it seems to actually help

      ETA: Perhaps a gentler touch focused on the unquestionably true over internet remote diagnostics might have a little more uptake

      EATA: Am I the only one who noticed the two obscure elections last year, the D Presidential primary and the Presidential general election, where candidates tried to make the ultimately victorious candidate’s age an issue to no apparent effect?

      Well, had an effect for me, tarnished the image I held of Obama, but certainly didn’t sway either election.

      Reply
    37. 37.

      Butch

      October 25, 2025 at 1:44 pm

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    38. 38.

      Enhanced Voting Techniques

      October 25, 2025 at 1:45 pm

      I’ve read that Trump’s obsession with drug gangs, the Mexican Border sending assassins to kill drug cartel leaders is all from the movie Siccaro.

      Except Siccaro, according the writer and director,  is about how borders are these no man’s lands were the rules are confused, and in the movie several times character from US military and law enforcement outright state that the get tough, kill them all mentality doesn’t fix it and that the only solution is end the demand for drug. The movie ends, after they killed the Cartel Leader,  with its just another day on the US-Mexican border so another drug related murder.

      So Trump and his base just remember the shootout. Trump thinks with a broken TV.

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    39. 39.

      chemiclord

      October 25, 2025 at 1:52 pm

      How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

      Me, personally?  I’m preparing my survival bunker as well as I can.  I tried warning people who should have fucking known better that a flood, hurricane, earthquake, tornado, and a tsunami were coming.  I showed them the weather patterns and images of the building tsunami.  I showed them the rubble from when this same storm blew through five years ago.

      Too many people said I was exaggerating.  Others refused to believe the evidence of their eyes and ears. Others welcomed it gleefully.  Still others refused to do anything because the previous weatherman should have done more to warn them or build up storm breakers.

      So… fuck ’em.  I’m done trying to save them from themselves.  Let ’em drown.

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    40. 40.

      Expletive Deleted

      October 25, 2025 at 1:52 pm

      Epstein, Qatar, and the more egregious pardons/involvements (Andrew Tate f’rinstance) for the conspiracy-minded. Hit them in the deep state.

      Cognitive decline with a sprinkle of “gosh, did you see how expensive insert random thing is now” for most of the rest.

      No percentage on “he’s killing people” unless you really know the person you are talking to. For the vast majority I think its an offscreen passive eugenics they secretly approve of there.

      Reply
    41. 41.

      jonas

      October 25, 2025 at 1:56 pm

      I think his handlers have been encouraging the ballroom boondoggle because it allows an increasingly cognitively-challenged Trump to revert to an earlier, more manageable mental state: real estate huckstering. If you listen to him, his little press gaggles now are just him blabbing on as though he’s promoting the White House as a time share scheme. It’s really fucking weird.

      Reply
    42. 42.

      Geminid

      October 25, 2025 at 1:57 pm

      If I were targeting conservative Republicans, I would pound the deficit issue. When Congressional Republicans passed that stupid Big Crappy Bill, this was the biggest problem conservatives had with it. Their candidates had promised to reduce the national debt, but this bill increases it almost $2 trillion a year for ten years, and most of that* is due to the tax cuts. I think this could be an issue in Republican primaries next year, and Democrats can make it one in November.

      * Democrats can imply that *all* of the deficit is due to the tax cuts and let Republicans explain, “Oh no, only $ l.2 trillion of this year’s deficits come from tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.” This issue might not make Republicans vote for a Democrat but it could make some of them stay home.

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    43. 43.

      Heidi Mom

      October 25, 2025 at 1:58 pm

      @Melancholy Jaques: After the swaying-to-music episode that someone has mentioned, there was that time when he mimed performing a blowjob on a microphone.  I really thought that was the clincher, that surely that would inspire shock, then outrage.  But no . . . .

      Reply
    44. 44.

      West of the Rockies

      October 25, 2025 at 2:03 pm

      @Butch:

      Well said. 😃

      Reply
    45. 45.

      West of the Rockies

      October 25, 2025 at 2:04 pm

      As his mental health declines, yes, hit the media with that big time.

      Reply
    46. 46.

      kalakal

      October 25, 2025 at 2:04 pm

      I’m old enough to remember when the RNC convention had a National Debt Clock showing how much US debt increased during the convention. That was in 2012, I’m sure they’ll have one for 2028

      Reply
    47. 47.

      Mart

      October 25, 2025 at 2:07 pm

      I got fixated on his fixation on a giant water valve in Northern Cal that I first watched him talk about Spring 24. A valve bigger than this room, so big it takes four very large men 24 hours to open. Once opened it would turn central valley green, providing billions to farmers, and we love our farmers don’t we? And the smelly rich people in Beverly Hills would be able to take real showers, not drip, drip, drip showers. But Newscum wouldn’t let us open it because of a tiny little fish, etc. And after elected some idiot got the Army Corp to dump billions of gallons of water into a dry desert lake bed in the winter that was reserved for summer irrigation satisfying the demented fool. Anyway, he spouted all this fucking nonsense while the press was dedicated to explaining how old Biden is.

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    48. 48.

      iKropoclast

      October 25, 2025 at 2:07 pm

      @kalakal: I’m old enough to remember when the RNC convention had a National Debt Clock showing how much US debt increased during the convention. That was in 2012

      I’m young enough to have never lived through a Republican Presidency where the deficit decreased or a Democratic Presidency where it increased.

      All the rhetoric I hear, save for on Balloon Juice, suggests the opposite.

      Reply
    49. 49.

      Ruviana

      October 25, 2025 at 2:23 pm

      I recently fell down a rabbit hole about Wendy Williams who was diagnosed with frontotemporal dementia.  I  was struck by how similar her symptoms were to what Trump does. This condition doesn’t appear to have the same degree of memory loss as say Alzheimer’s Syndrome, but vertigo and balance issues are fairly common.

      Reply
    50. 50.

      Matt McIrvin

      October 25, 2025 at 2:25 pm

      @kalakal: Even then, they were just conveniently forgetting what Reagan had done to the debt.

      Reply
    51. 51.

      iKropoclast

      October 25, 2025 at 2:36 pm

      @Matt McIrvin: …and Bush, and Bush…

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    52. 52.

      Geminid

      October 25, 2025 at 3:30 pm

      @Ruviana: Trump does his press appearances sitting down now.

      And his diplomacy. I just saw a picture of him sitting at a table on Air Force One with the Emir of Qatar. This was on a layover at El Udeid air base near Doha, on his way way to the ASEAN summit in Malaysia. Emir al-Thani was on one side and Prime Minister al-Thani was on the other. It’s pretty much an all al-Thani government over there.

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    53. 53.

      Ruckus

      October 25, 2025 at 3:53 pm

      @rivers:

      It’s obvious that he needs help and there are cynical people surrounding him who are taking advantage of his diminished capacities.

      His diminished capacities aren’t a lot worse than his “normal” capacities. Take away the bluster, which aging out can easily do, and there you are, square one. Now those around him, taking any advantage they can, are likely a lot of the issue.

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    54. 54.

      rk

      October 25, 2025 at 5:04 pm

      I love how morons have to be treated with kid gloves. Delicate feelings of men (mostly white) and white women. I don’t have it in me. I wish them  all the worst. I have nothing to say to Trump supporters and if I met one in the wild, I’ll tell them they’re idiots if they think Trump is sane.

      You’re a better person than I am.

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    55. 55.

      brendancalling

      October 25, 2025 at 5:19 pm

      For me, it is all about loudly muttering at the grocery store, which has led to fruitful conversations with strangers. With the price of beef going through the fucking roof, this is surprisingly easy.

      ”WTH? I thought he was bringing DOWN the cost of meat? $20 for 2 pounds of pot roast?”

      ”it blows my mind he’s giving like $20 billion to Argentina or wherever it is, when a half pound of baloney is a luxury, amirite?”

      That kind of stuff. Always blaming Trump, tarrifs, and broken promises. “I thought he said…” is a great sentence starter.

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    56. 56.

      zzcool

      October 26, 2025 at 2:38 am

      I actually thought of a new joke today.

      What do you call a POTUS with undiagnosed dementia? A fascist (his current medical condition does not absolve the realities of his previous directives, policies and actions)

      It might need a little more work.

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