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Madison Meet-Up

by John Cole|  July 31, 201310:40 pm| 84 Comments

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I will be in the People’s Republic of Madison from Tuesday night until Saturday. I was thinking a hump-day meet-up would be kind of cool, that way, in the off chance we got along we could schedule something else in the following nights. So, where do you want to go? I know a bunch of you are going to suggest The Old Fashioned, but think outside the box.

Also, my mom is pissed at me because I told her I was going to go buy denim bib overalls and attach a Flying WV to the front for the meet-up, and she gasped and said “But you’ll look like a total hillbilly hick!”

If the shoe fits….

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  1. 1.

    Yatsuno

    July 31, 2013 at 10:41 pm

    Also, my mom is pissed at me because I told her I was going to go buy denim bib overalls and attach a Flying WV to the front for the meet-up

    You know the drill…

  2. 2.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    July 31, 2013 at 10:42 pm

    The outfit only comes with one shoe?

  3. 3.

    Redshirt

    July 31, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead: Only one strap on the overalls too. A jug with XXX on it as well, also, too.

    Are you the same JSF as the JSF from the previous post?

  4. 4.

    Yatsuno

    July 31, 2013 at 10:47 pm

    @Redshirt: It better be. I demand stability when it comes to Fuckheads.

  5. 5.

    Comrade Mary

    July 31, 2013 at 10:48 pm

    I was thinking a hump-day meet-up would be kind of cool

    Well, y’all play safe now, you hear?

  6. 6.

    The Reverend Lowdown

    July 31, 2013 at 10:52 pm

    Heck yeah. Coming out of the wilds of North Woods for this. Name the time and place.

  7. 7.

    Yatsuno

    July 31, 2013 at 10:53 pm

    @Comrade Mary: Have a question for you one thread down. Feel free to answer either here or there.

  8. 8.

    Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader

    July 31, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    @Redshirt: Can we ever be our true selves if we’re pseudonymous? That’s a question for the philosophers.

  9. 9.

    trollhattan

    July 31, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    I was going to go buy denim bib overalls and attach a Flying WV to the front

    Bringin’ that dancin’ raccoon, too? Because that video last night was awesome. Also awesome, the rhubarb “lady.”

    nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/07/rhubarb-lady-video-transcript.html

    Speaking of awesome, free streaming of the new Civil Wars album right now at the itunes store. Didn’t work for me in Firefox for some reason, but Chrome does.

    search.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZContentLink.woa/wa/link?path=TheCivilWars

  10. 10.

    Suzanne

    July 31, 2013 at 10:57 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader: I think so. Because no matter what people call you IRL, I would assume that you’re still a Fuckhead.

  11. 11.

    Redshirt

    July 31, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    Question for the wags: Does “Hillbilly” = “Redneck”?

  12. 12.

    Yatsuno

    July 31, 2013 at 10:58 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader: Cogito ergo sum, pseudonym or otherwise. However you brilliantly solved a long-standing theological issue one thread down. That really should be acknowledged.

  13. 13.

    Redshirt

    July 31, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader: Or can we be far more true to our inner, truer selves without our old names?

  14. 14.

    PsiFighter37

    July 31, 2013 at 10:59 pm

    When will John Cole make his presence known here in NYC?

  15. 15.

    Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader

    July 31, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    @Yatsuno: I’m a Thought Leader. It just comes with the territory.

  16. 16.

    tofubo

    July 31, 2013 at 11:02 pm

    could go there or themalthousenyc.com/ or somewhere else

  17. 17.

    tofubo

    July 31, 2013 at 11:04 pm

    @tofubo:

    disregard, bad copy and paste job, looking for the original link…

  18. 18.

    tofubo

    July 31, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    @tofubo:

    malthousetavern.com/

    also too, why yer edit past comment no worky ??

  19. 19.

    Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader

    July 31, 2013 at 11:06 pm

    @Suzanne: I don’t know if that’s inside or outside the new rules of conduct because I can only guess at what normal people would consider insulting but it seems pretty close. I’d hate to see you get in trouble when you were just trying to be funny.

  20. 20.

    Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader

    July 31, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    Has anyone seen the awesome Aaron Eckhart flick, Erased, available on FIOS HD OnDemand for as low as 7.99?

  21. 21.

    Ben W

    July 31, 2013 at 11:22 pm

    @Yatsuno: how many Fuckheads do we have on this ship!?

  22. 22.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    July 31, 2013 at 11:24 pm

    @Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader: Why would I pay 7.99 for something that’s been erased?

  23. 23.

    Mnemosyne

    July 31, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    @Redshirt:

    All hillbillies are rednecks, but not all rednecks are hillbillies.

    Discuss.

  24. 24.

    Jim C

    July 31, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    I was going to go buy denim bib overalls

    Denim bib overalls.

    Maybe they call them that in Madison, in the big city, but out in the country they’re usually just called “overalls” or possibly “bibbies.” Maybe it’s just the farmers I knew, but they called non-bib overalls “coveralls.”

    I do like the idea of a tweed bib overall, or a linen bib overall … you know, for the professor at the small, midwestern college who farms on the weekends.

  25. 25.

    burnspbesq

    July 31, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    I think we’re all bozos fuckheads on this bus site.

  26. 26.

    Redshirt

    July 31, 2013 at 11:27 pm

    @Jim C: Tweed bib with leather knee patches.

  27. 27.

    John O

    July 31, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    It’s 2-3 hours away, but it remains tempting. Details as they come, John.

    Madison is a lot of fun, and I have an aunt to crash with there…

  28. 28.

    Gex

    July 31, 2013 at 11:28 pm

    @Redshirt: I see him more as a washboard kind of guy.

    I may very well head out to Madison from Minneapolis for this meet up.

  29. 29.

    burnspbesq

    July 31, 2013 at 11:32 pm

    No real surprise that AS Roma shredded the MLS All-Stars.

  30. 30.

    The Reverend Lowdown

    July 31, 2013 at 11:33 pm

    What do you guys mean by ” meet-up”? I’m thinking of pounding a few drinks then hunting down scott walker and wedgie-ing the mf’er. After that, of course…more drinks, eventually being arrested, calling people for bail money, Ed Schultz coming back to WI and protesting our incarceration, etc. Fun times. We could live blog the whole thing. Just throwing that out there. Or we could just talk. Either way, count me in.

  31. 31.

    angelfoot

    July 31, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    OshKosh B’Gosh!

    I haven’t been to Madison in ages, but I remember the Crystal Corner Bar on Willy and Baldwin as a great hangout, oh fifteen or twenty years ago.

  32. 32.

    Redshirt

    July 31, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    @Gex: LOL. What are the core Hillbilly band instruments? Jug, Washboard, I’m blanking…

  33. 33.

    Rebecca

    July 31, 2013 at 11:34 pm

    Awesome things about Madison: they take Halloween seriously (as they damn well should), very good hippy food co-ops (and the multiple types of vegi-brats that implies), and the lesbian owned sex toy store that was down the street from my house (but I had to read about in the back of a magazine before I knew it was there).

    I hated it at the time, but have lived in far, far worse places since.

  34. 34.

    trollhattan

    July 31, 2013 at 11:37 pm

    @Redshirt:

    Aretha

    youtube.com/watch?v=h8rnHXV7A8Q

  35. 35.

    Comrade Mary

    July 31, 2013 at 11:43 pm

    @Yatsuno: Answered there. OK?

  36. 36.

    TaMara (BHF)

    July 31, 2013 at 11:47 pm

    @JohnCole: Colorado is beautiful in the fall and we’ve got some kickass breweries. Just saying.

  37. 37.

    trollhattan

    July 31, 2013 at 11:55 pm

    O/T I’m beginning to think we need to coax Betty C out of that craphole of a state.

    nbcmiami.com/news/local/Father-Found-Charged-After-Wandering-Girl-Led-Police-to-Apartment-Full-of-We…

    But hey, what three-year-old doesn’t want a grenade?

  38. 38.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    July 31, 2013 at 11:58 pm

    Be sure to blacken a few teeth for good effect. ;) Tote an old moonshine XXX -branded jug along to complete the package…lol!

    OT: Why am I hearing (what sounds like) the sound of a sheep in the soundtrack of the latest Mercedes commercial? It makes me chuckle every time I hear it.

  39. 39.

    ? Martin

    August 1, 2013 at 12:08 am

    @trollhattan:

    A man who said he is the girl’s grandfather said Wednesday that his son had a permit to carry guns, but perhaps not a grenade.

    Well, the NRA has done their job well. Apparently people believe you can get a carry permit for grenades.

    Also, Thursday, the Department of Children and Families has to do a home study to see who will get custody of the girl. Her mother was at a custody hearing but the girl had been with Bianchi after the mother had said last year that she couldn’t financially take care of her. There is another hearing set for Friday.

    So, no money for the kid, but money for an AK-47 and a grenade. How is this possible? I thought only black people were financially irresponsible?

  40. 40.

    Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader

    August 1, 2013 at 12:17 am

    When Martin shows up applauding the NRA and disrespecting people of color, I know it’s time for me to go to bed.

    Night all!

  41. 41.

    Roy G.

    August 1, 2013 at 12:20 am

    Trust me, there are many places in Wisconny that are just as hick as WV, the accent is just different. Family Guy nailed this one, ‘Oh gawd!, oh crap!’

    Family Guy: The Wisconsin Nymphomanic Upstairs:
    youtube.com/watch?v=5s0FXaHJ-eU

  42. 42.

    Corner Stone

    August 1, 2013 at 12:29 am

    @Just Some Fuckhead, Thought Leader: If you don’t get fucking banned for this I am going to give serious thought to filing a formal complaint!

  43. 43.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    August 1, 2013 at 12:32 am

    I’ve only been in Madison once, but I recommend the Old Fashioned Tavern. 200 beers on tap to wash down the mac & cheese and fried cheese curds.

  44. 44.

    Charles Coats

    August 1, 2013 at 12:34 am

    Proud long-time resident of downtown Madison here. Hard to fully understand what it means to be downtown in Madison and ask, “Where is a good place for a drink?” Presuming your staying just off of the Capital, and presuming you’re not interested in driving somewhere, there are literally 30+ bars (I stopped counting at 30) in easy walking distance of the Capital. And that’s NOT including such favorites as the Malt House and Crystal Corner. So figuring walking distance, good space for a gathering of 10+, and good beer, my opinion of the top contenders:

    Memorial Union, UW Campus – Not even close to outside of the box, but in the very brief Wisconsin summer, possibly the prettiest place in the State. Assuming good weather, outdoors, world-class view, solid beer selection, great people watching, burgers and locally picked corn-on-the-cob from the grill, and starting at 8pm Wednesday, live music. (union.wisc.edu/wud/event.asp?event_id=24403)

    I was planning on listing some more, but honestly everything else clumps together. Old Fashioned does have best breaded cheese curds I’ve ever had, but it’s not a great space for larger groups. Awesome beer list though, with 99 Wisconsin beers available and 1 import beer listed, St Pauli’s Girl from Minnesota. Essen Haus is another standard, with plenty of space and Hofbrau on tap, with pretzels and schnitzels plentiful. And a dozen more beloved locations after those. But for the rare visit to Madison in the Summer, I think the Union Terrace is obvious choice.

    PS: in a rare non-beer related thought, on the south-west side of Capital Square is a cheese shop called Fromagination (right next to Inn on the Park). If you love food in any fashion, you owe yourself a visit there, if only to smell. Artisan cheeses, heavily sourced from Wisconsin, with actual cheese mongers that know things and a generous sampling policy – at the very least try the Bandged Chedder from Blue Mont dairy, it does not suck…

  45. 45.

    Buckyblue

    August 1, 2013 at 12:35 am

    I’m with the reverend, tho all we’d have to do is break out into song and scooter will have us arrested. What an f-ing fascist. Oh, and also, The Great Dane is a great meetup spot. Lots of protestors stopped for a few before and after marching round the square.

  46. 46.

    Niobe

    August 1, 2013 at 12:36 am

    Brickhouse BBQ rooftop deck. http://www.thebrickhousebbq.com

    Impeccable view of the Capitol, a block from State Street, respectable tap list, and next door to the biggest downtown liquor store. Hits many of the same beats as the Old Fashioned or Dane, but juuuust a bit outside the box.

  47. 47.

    Niobe

    August 1, 2013 at 12:42 am

    Old Fashioned only has 60 beers on tap, though there are easily 200 available if you count bottles. Problem there, aside from the hour-plus wait if you put in at any time after 6 p.m. every night, is that there’s no good place for a large group, unless you get them to put you in the top floor in the addition. They’d probably want extra money for that, and that’s better spent on beer. The Dane is nice and their beer is good, but they only have a dozen or so of their own taps. You need at least 30 for a bonafide Madison party.

  48. 48.

    sparky

    August 1, 2013 at 12:44 am

    Uh, people, John is making a meta-joke here. While the stereotype of a West Virginnian may include bib overalls, that article of clothing was invented (and made by union labor) in Wisconsin.

    I had to surf like a white boy at Huntington Beach ’til I found this link, but I got ‘er done.

    And, of course, you all have gone to bed.

  49. 49.

    sparky

    August 1, 2013 at 12:49 am

    @Corner Stone: Hey, shit fer brains, this ain’t an AL thread. You can be as abusive as you want! ‘Sides, Cole is petting his pussy.

    Fuckhead left just when the party was getting started.
    (Actually, I decided months ago to refrain from internet invective unless it involved the letters ‘t’ and/or ‘h.’

  50. 50.

    Niobe

    August 1, 2013 at 12:58 am

    Yes, the Terrace can’t be beat for setting, and the new beer stands are up and running. Plus, there’s no better place for a group with people coming and going. Save Brickhouse for the afterparty.

  51. 51.

    Kristine Smith

    August 1, 2013 at 12:59 am

    7 August? I’m in.

  52. 52.

    lojasmo

    August 1, 2013 at 12:59 am

    Universal marriage commences in Minnesota in a minute. I blame Obama.

  53. 53.

    Jim C

    August 1, 2013 at 1:03 am

    @Redshirt: I love it! Let’s go to market with this.

  54. 54.

    mdblanche

    August 1, 2013 at 1:04 am

    Pat Robertson is a dodo.

  55. 55.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    August 1, 2013 at 1:15 am

    @Charles Coats: Union Terrace sounded awesome for all the reasons you describe, but we didn’t make it there on my brief visit, unfortunately.

  56. 56.

    Anne Laurie

    August 1, 2013 at 1:16 am

    @trollhattan:

    I’m beginning to think we need to coax Betty C out of that craphole of a state.

    Scott Meyer (Basic Instructions.net) recently said “Many Floridians are the result of generations of breeding by people who were tough enough to survive in Florida, but dumb enough to stay.”

    I sent the cartoon to Betty. She thought it was funny.

    Don’t mess with Betty Cracker, would be my advice.

  57. 57.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    August 1, 2013 at 1:17 am

    @Niobe: Yeah, there were only four of us at the Old Fashioned that night and I see your point. Not a lot of space.

    Regarding the 200 on tap? Oops. My recollection was clouded by a Totally Naked lager. Or two.

  58. 58.

    Anne Laurie

    August 1, 2013 at 1:22 am

    @Redshirt:

    What are the core Hillbilly band instruments? Jug, Washboard, I’m blanking…

    Fiddle, of course! As many fiddles as possible!

    Plus banjo, and maybe spoons, if you’ve got enough hands.

  59. 59.

    zombie rotten mcdonald

    August 1, 2013 at 1:30 am

    Nobody wants to invite Ann Althouse?

  60. 60.

    rda909

    August 1, 2013 at 1:31 am

    Bizarre. My employer just sent me the flight info for me to be in Madison this Monday through Saturday. May have to swing by, if I’m not already too busy freebasing.

  61. 61.

    Eljai

    August 1, 2013 at 1:42 am

    @zombie rotten mcdonald: I would fly in from the west coast just to see her drink her weight in red wine!

  62. 62.

    Doug Milhous J

    August 1, 2013 at 1:46 am

    People will think you’re a hipster, John.

  63. 63.

    dance around in your bones

    August 1, 2013 at 1:50 am

    Hesu Crisco, John Cole is going to de-lurk and possibly meet some of his commentariat? I wish I was within spitting distance of Madison…(I’m not)…and maybe some of the women who have offered to marry him will show up. THAT would make for some awesome photos!

    I’m gobsmacked.

  64. 64.

    lojasmo

    August 1, 2013 at 1:58 am

    I hate Chardonay. Also, the wife is going to be home, as she has been ordered to VT three weeks later. Might not make it. Frightened stalker bitches Cornerstone and Pokeyblow are now free to fearlessly attend.

    Good luck WI commentariat.

  65. 65.

    pkdz

    August 1, 2013 at 2:27 am

    I’m a lurker that lives in Madison. I have two young kids, so I don’t know that I can get away. But I vote for the Memorial Union terrace. I remember our blogger looking for Madison suggestions last year, but making it clear that he was looking to dine alone. Cheers!

  66. 66.

    Mnemosyne

    August 1, 2013 at 2:30 am

    I will be in the general area (northeast Illinois) but we’re already scheduled so tightly that there’s no way we can find the time. I’m sure all are disappointed. ;-)

    (We’ll be trying to get rush tickets to “Book of Mormon” sometime during the week. It’s my reward for getting through this goddamned memorial and (hopefully) repairing a few of the cracks in my family.)

  67. 67.

    Redshirt

    August 1, 2013 at 2:30 am

    @dance around in your bones: I’m thinking some large panties are going to be thrown Cole’s way.

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 1, 2013 at 7:00 am

    The Union Terrace is great, but it limits beer sales to members and university ID holders. It might not be the best idea. In addition, while it is open, significant construction/renovation is being done to the Memorial Union buildings right now. The Malthouse is cool but is is well over on the east side and might not be convenient for everyone. I would say it should be on the Isthmus somewhere. That way everyone is equally inconvenienced. The Great Dane isn’t all that out of the box, but it is roomy and finding a table or tables should be easy.

  69. 69.

    Embir

    August 1, 2013 at 7:52 am

    I don’t believe the Terrace limits sales to UW folks – hasn’t been my experience over there. And yes – mid summer that is the place to be. Hope it comes off.

    BTW re Overalls – glad to know that as a West Virginian our proprietor is embracing Big Cole.

  70. 70.

    Embir

    August 1, 2013 at 7:53 am

    I don’t believe the Terrace limits sales to UW folks – hasn’t been my experience over there. And yes – mid summer that is the place to be. Hope it comes off. BTW re Overalls – glad to know that as a West Virginian our proprietor is embracing Big Cole.

  71. 71.

    J R in WV

    August 1, 2013 at 9:25 am

    @Redshirt:

    No, not at all. Redneck refers to working class folks who live in a lowland flat place suitable for farming.

    Hillbilly refers to someone who lives where it is too steep to farm much.

  72. 72.

    pat

    August 1, 2013 at 9:53 am

    Hm, Madison. Sounds doable, but what happens if someone doesn’t like beer. Can I get a decent red wine in any of those locations?

  73. 73.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    August 1, 2013 at 10:08 am

    @Corner Stone: Not banned yet. :(

  74. 74.

    zombie rotten mcdonald

    August 1, 2013 at 10:28 am

    @pat:

    pat, it’s Wisconsin. We enjoy alcohol in all it’s permutations.

  75. 75.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 1, 2013 at 12:02 pm

    @Embir: it is the official policy and concession folks do occasionally check. Also, I don’t think Cole is a beer guy and they don’t serve hard alcohol.

  76. 76.

    Chris

    August 1, 2013 at 12:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Madison lurker who hopes he can come out and join the fun. The Terrace does restrict sales as you say, but they sell 1 day memberships to let people drink beer. Depending on how many folks show, you really only need 1 or 2 of those passes and then someone comes back with 4 pitchers at a time.

    If not the Terrace or Old Fashioned, I’d vote for The Vintage on Whitney simply because I think John needs to be introduced to the Grilled Cheese Cheeseburger. Oh, and tasty beer.

  77. 77.

    Jonas

    August 1, 2013 at 12:36 pm

    I will be in Madison for a conference at that time and would love to meet up. Mostly a lurker here but would be great meeting folks.

  78. 78.

    I Zimbra

    August 1, 2013 at 1:20 pm

    Another Madisonian lurker here. My 2 alternate suggestions:

    Coopers Tavern – Right on the square, has a good (if not overwhelming) tap list plus a nice selection of harder and softer stuff. Plus they have a hamburger with a braised pork belly on it. There’s a large room up stairs that shouldn’t be terribly crowded on a Wednesday.

    The Mason – About a mile from the Capitol, but has a great rotating selection of taps and a nice, neighborhood feel. Probably not as accommodating for large groups, but we could likely take over the patio by force majeure.

    I look forward to meeting the misanthrope-in-chief.

  79. 79.

    Erin

    August 1, 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Longtime lurker here.

    The terrace would be great, but it isn’t the most convenient to get to with all the construction. I have to second or third the Crystal Corner – enough space, 15 minute walk from downtown, and on the isthmus. If food is a must, then Harmony Bar, at the other end of the isthmus. They have a whole back room for big groups.

  80. 80.

    mrmike

    August 1, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    Howsabout Karben4?

    Good beer, good (though simple and limited) food, not usually super crowded.

  81. 81.

    dance around in your bones

    August 1, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    @Redshirt:

    @dance around in your bones: I’m thinking some large panties are going to be thrown Cole’s way.

    Just saw this but must say I find it really lolworthy. Pics of Cole with large panties on his head would be an extra bonus :)

  82. 82.

    kideni

    August 2, 2013 at 2:03 pm

    I’m up for a Madison get-together. Even if I get arrested again for singing at the Capitol, they release you pretty quickly (see this article if you’re wondering what I’m talking about).

    I would really rather not go to the Old Fashioned, since it’s crazy busy. The Fountain has a lot of space, good beer, decent food, and isn’t as crowded. Bandung (Indonesian) can handle decent-sized groups if given notice.

    I’m really looking forward to this!

  83. 83.

    Singing Truth to Power

    August 3, 2013 at 10:04 pm

    As a long-time lurker, I would love to have you join the Solidarity Sing Along at the Capitol when you are in Madison, noon to 1:00. We have been protesting our scum-bag governor for 2 1/2 years – he has recently set his Capitol Police force on us – over 120 citations ($200.50 each) in the last two weeks alone. I have earned two by continuing to sing when they tell us to stop and leave. Come see us, come sing (you don’t have to have a good voice – trust me). We sing inside in the rotunda Monday – Thursday (great acoustics) and outside near the State Street corner under what we call the Solidaritree. Come and be with us! I’d love to come to the meet-up too –

  84. 84.

    Singing Truth to Power

    August 3, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    Regarding the Old Fashioned, the food is great, but in addition to being crazy busy, it is loud – hard to have a conversation there.

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