@Thoughtful David: You can do it. We have complete confidence in you!
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BR
I am at the point where I am going to put both a Hillary and a Bernie sticker on my car, side by side. Does anyone have suggestions on where the best places are to get stickers of both? (Should I just donate to both campaigns?) I’m tired of the primaries (and don’t care who wins at this point) and want to unify the party to face the GOP.
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TheBuhJaysus
Cruz now distancing himself from his pledge to support the R nominee if it’s Trump.
That’s a great idea. I think Hillary will be the nominee, but I find Bernie a worthy candidate and would vote for him Without hesitation if he were the D nominee.
Whatever is going to pull as many seats towards the left in November.
Looking at both the Hillary and Bernie websites, they both have bumper stickers for $5. I’m going to order both.
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Adam L Silverman
Neither the Paris’ nor Brussel’s attacks were the result of being blind sided. In both cases they knew something was coming, they were unable to actually stop the attacks.
As for Senator Cruz’s answer: 1) Ft. Hood is in Texas, 2) his home state is Texas, not Florida, and 3) our efforts in Syria just resulted in the death of the #2 guy in Islamic State’s hierarchy. Finally, Nidal Hassan was in contact with Anwar al Awlawki in 2008, which just happened to be when George W. Bush was President and Senator Ted Cruz worked for his administration. And it was the Intel personnel in Bush’s Administration that determined that the communication had nothing to do with terrorism: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/us/10inquire.html
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Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Yes, Senator Cruz first. Not sure if Trump is second or third.
You should also get one of those “coexist” stickers to go with them.
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SiubhanDuinne
CNN pisses me off. Most of the time, the only way you can watch a debate or town hall on line is if you already have a cable subscription and account number.
I do not have a television, and therefore I do not have a cable subscription nor an account number.
Thus, I am precluded from watching more than 10 minutes’ worth of CNN coverage of any potentially significant political event (minus approximately 2-1/2 to 3 minutes of commercials).
This strikes me as an extremely stupid business model. If I were CNN, I would want to try to persuade people like me to buy a TV and subscribe to cable, and I would do this by offering free online access to public service programs such as town halls and debates.
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Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: I went looking for a proper live stream, but couldn’t find one and didn’t want to link to the “you get ten minutes free” thing they’ve got rigged up.
In other news, it turns out that sometimes It’s Good To Be The King (or at least be covered by the King’s health insurance). My little referral problem shriveled up and faded away as soon as the center pulled the “preferred provider” card on my stubborn medical group. I has a relieved.
Supposedly, yes. I saw something earlier that he might cancel, but nothing recently, and if he were going to bail I think it would be a pretty big story.
This is going to go three solid hours. Don’t know if I have the stamina to follow the Guardian‘s live blog. Hell, I don’t even know if Anderson Cooper has the stamina.
Thus, I am precluded from watching more than 10 minutes’ worth of CNN coverage of any potentially significant political event (minus approximately 2-1/2 to 3 minutes of commercials).
You might be the only person in North America complaining about not getting enough CNN. If your provider was really smart, they’d be threatening to give it to you 24/7 unless you agreed to a rate increase.
@Adam L Silverman: I’d pay eleventy-billion dollars to have you running a live Chyron feed for CNN during this thing.
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Adam L Silverman
@Davebo: Usually its the #3 guy that gets killed. Over the past 15 years we’ve killed dozens of #3 guys. So this was a welcome diversion. Except for the #2 guy. But the #3 guy that we didn’t get this time is relieved he gets a promotion and doesn’t have to worry about being on the long list of #3 guys we’ve taken out.
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Thoughtful David
@Adam L Silverman:
Nope, sorry, no can do. It’s not good for my sanity, for my blood pressure, or the monitor screen and floor coverings around the set, and the neighbors would probably call the cops on me from the raged yelling.
It’s really just better if I abstain.
There is so much to hate about Cruz, but here’s something petty that annoys the shit outta me: the way he whips out some lame-ass circa-1980 fucking turn of phrase like “welfare should be a trampoline, not a hammock” in his goddamn annoying adenoidal voice and pauses, smirking, as if for applause or at least acknowledgement of his cleverness. What. A. Dick.
What’s really funny is that it was never an insurance company problem at all — the problem was with the medical group my doctor now belongs to. When I called Cigna, they were all, Don’t worry, it’s fine, because they knew that my company has that preferred provider regardless of what the medical group wanted, and Cigna’s going to do what my company wants since my company pays the bills.
(One of the reasons this provider is preferred is that one of my company’s bigwigs made a giant donation to it and has his name on the cancer center.)
I hate CNN, but I do want to stay as informed as possible about the candidates, and that means following as many debates and town halls as are available to me. Unfortunately, CNN seems to have snagged a huge number of these events this cycle.
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Baud
@SiubhanDuinne: You are such a good citizen. Citizen Siubhan!
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Steve in the ATL
@Adam L Silverman: If you’re going to fact check Ted Cruz, you are in for a loooooooooooooooong night
And you need to save your energy for tonight’s sovcitpa thread
I heard some guy on the radio who’d written a book about Trump, and he said the phrase that sums up Trump for him is “Believe me.” Trump believes that he will do awesome things because he’s the one doing them. All you have to do is look and see that he’s there and then believe.
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Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: He can’t keep his stream of consciousness straight.
@schrodinger’s cat: It was horrid. Had this not been on tonight, I intended to write about portions of it. Specifically the stuff he started the town hall with about charging for defense support and drawing back and dominating etc. I’ll probably do it tomorrow depending on what’s going on.
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TheBuhJaysus
Trump is flopping around like a fish outta water when asked what the top three functions of government should be. He’s said security, security, security, then education, healthcare, housing.
So called conservatives will be foaming at the mouth.
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Adam L Silverman
@dmsilev: A babbling brook is pleasant to listen to!
I think you’ll forgive me if I’m a bit skeptical about “the #2 guy” in any group being killed and therefore we’re safer. How many #2 guys have we killed so far? 20?
Can’t prove a counterfactual, but we can look at the number of successful ISIS led attacks on Americans at home in the last 7+ years as an indication that you are, except for our homegrown gun nut culture, pretty safe over here. Now, if you don’t feel safe, that may not matter.
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dmsilev
@TheBuhJaysus: At least he can count to three and above. By the standards of GOP Presidential candidates, that’s doing pretty well.
Not good yet, but at least it’s one less thing to worry about. I still remember the five-year fight I had with Aetna over an admission to the hospital from the ER (my appendix was inflamed, but fortunately it went down and I didn’t need surgery). They wanted to bill it as out of network because my doctor was out of town that day and it was another doctor in the same OFFICE who advised me to go to the ER.
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PhoenixRising
My 16yo: Maybe Donald Trump should ask Siri to explain what ‘nuclear proliferation’ means because I just looked and there are maps and charts and everything!
She’s moved us off CNN to a recorded Dr Oakley episode, because a Canadian vet treating an alpaca for an abscess on his junk is way more qualified to manage the launch codes than Donald Trump.
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dmsilev
Has there ever been a major-party candidate for President who has been as insecure as Trump?
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Adam L Silverman
@PhoenixRising: You normally don’t see alpaca junk discussed before 10 PM, but given what we’re all talking about it seems to work.
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Adam L Silverman
@dmsilev: Nixon. And the only difference is Nixon’s grievances were against those he believed were better than him and looking down at him. Donald Trump is simply a thin skinned bully with a lot of resources.
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Omnes Omnibus
@PhoenixRising: To be fair, the abscess on the alpaca’s junk is way more qualified to manage the launch codes than Donald Trump.
CNN only gives you 10 minutes if you’re not subscribed? Is *that* why the last time I tried to watch the Sanders-Clinton debate on this very site that the feed suddenly stopped and would not start again? Here I thought it was my Internet connection.
@Adam L Silverman: I thought we always used to kill the #3 guy because we always used to kill someone, but that someone was neither Osama bin Laden nor Al Zawahiri, and the latter was always identified as “Al Quaeda number 2.”
@TheBuhJaysus: I would imagine bespectacled Rick is wondering how the f*@k a man less qualified than alpaca junk is the frontrunner while he’s nowheresville. I hated Perry, but he seems almost reasonable now. Which is quite a stunt the Donald is pulling off.
Medical insurance horror stories…good times! Got plenty of them from my bike accident. Good news is that I *had* insurance, bad news is that I had to fight them like hell every step of the way to get them to pay for treatments my doctors had recommended. Made the stress of recovery just ever so much easier to take, don’t you know…
I can understand *why* people want to go to a single-payer system, if they thought it might make access to treatment less complicated and frustrating.
Since I get to take the whole day off work for the biopsy, I’m debating what treats to buy myself. Do I just want Kindle books, or do I want to go to the used bookstore this weekend and pick out a stack? Cupcakes or ice cream? Or both?
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Adam L Silverman
@divF: Funny leg crossing story. UF has a building, right next to the O Dome that previously housed the basketball court. It was retrofitted into classrooms and offices and conference rooms. The two big seminar rooms, which used to be the basketball court and have been subdivided at what was mid court, have stepped stadium style seating for the desks. This is because the court had fixed stadium seating, not the collapsable bleachers. The first time I had to teach in one of these rooms I walked in, plopped my bag down on the desk, put my outline on the podium, fired up the computer stuff, and turned around to face the students waiting for class to start. Every woman in that room, including the ones wearing jeans or other types of pants, immediately crossed their legs and put their bags on their laps. The top of my head was just at foot level for the lowest row of seats. Every class the same thing happened. It was reflex and I understand it. I’m still not sure anyone who authorized the retrofit does.
@Miss Bianca: Trump wasn’t wrong about infrastructure degradation though. Of course he didn’t explain that our infrastructure is falling apart because one party demands constant tax cuts and refuses to fund public works. At any level of government.
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divF
@Adam L Silverman: The male true story for that was in a class Madame divF took during medical school, with nine men and three women. As soon as the instructor said the words “testicular cancer”, all the men crossed their legs.
That’s the weird thing about Trump: he closes one eye, squints at the target, looses a shaft seemingly at random and amazingly enough comes close enough to the bullseye that he gets a roar from the crowd. Problem is, he thinks he can just do that shit all the time – he doesn’t have to, you know, PRACTICE or KNOW anything – he’s just going to wing an arrow, any old arrow, at any old target and think he’s fucking AMAZING.
@Mnemosyne: Iced cream goes well with cupcakes, I’ve found. But there’s nothing like the smell of an old book. Probably mold spores entering your brain, but still, nostalgic.
Probably mold spores entering your brain, but still, nostalgic.
Nostalgia = mold spores in the brain. I like it!
Trying to get my mind around the people who support Trump when he sounds dumber and dumberer every time he opens his mouth. At this point, I’m willing to go with “He hates who we hate” as the single and only reason for supporting him.
The bookstore I’m thinking of has resident kitties, so bonus.
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Gin & Tonic
@Miss Bianca: No, you should have said “the hell with you, you whippersnapper, in our day those were ‘rotating tag lines’ and to me that’s how they’ll remain.”
I miss having them at the top. I miss the balloon guy, too.
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Amir Khalid
@CaseyL:
We all know what Trump talk is like: ignorance, bigotry, bluster. I’ve heard of some people (like Scott Baio) who said they were endorsing Trump because he talked like they did. It seems like an awful lack of self-awareness on their part.
Goddammit, everybody’s cracking me up tonight. You’re right, of course. Can I order Redshirt off my lawn, too? Or should I just beam him down to the planet with the Main Cast?
What’s kinda cool is the Spider-Man quote:
“With great power comes great responsibility”
has become mainstream. As it is very apt.
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Adam L Silverman
You can really tell the difference in the candidates with Governor Kasich. Regardless of whether you agree with his positions, he’s an experienced politician with legislative and executive branch experience. And you can see the difference in how he approaches the town hall, Anderson Cooper’s, and the audience’s questions.
Was never quite sure what Bzzd’s oath was as he was a sentient mosquito like Green Lantern partner with Mogo in Sector 2261.
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Adam L Silverman
The hipster student needs to buy a shirt with a collar that fits his neck. Not my neck! For the record I have an 18 inch neck and can lift several hundred pounds with it, which is why my head basically tapers into my shoulders…
I would definitely watch a Vastra, Jenny, and Strax show.
No, I’m not a Sontaran. I wrestled in high school and our coach, correctly, emphasized developing neck strength to prevent injury. I’ve always stuck with that over the years. As a result I have an 18 inch neck. I do not have a head that looks like it came from a 1:1 scale Mr. Potato Head and I’m not the result of a mass cloning process. Though my Dad did once say I was an immaculate deception.
“From memory”, she mutters. From fucking memory. Of course. But why should I be surprised? That’s it – I’ve officially given up being surprised at *anything* that comes out of your mouth. Virtually speaking, of course.
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Adam L Silverman
@The Lodger: My understanding, though I can’t prove it, was that This is Spinal Tap is an important part of our grand strategic vision.
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Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: I did go to double check the spelling online at one of the Tolkien Wikis. Around here if I had gotten something wrong, someone would notice and point it out!
I was an obsessive Tolkien reader as a kid. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve read the Lord of the Rings.
@Miss Bianca: In this age of Daredevil and Luke Cage TV shows and Iron Man being the star of the biggest grossing movie series ever, I’m realistically hoping I see a movie about Beren and Luthien before I die. Or a trilogy if that’s required.
It’s got everything a modern blockbuster needs, plus it can be Lord of the Rings branded, so it’s got built in appeal.
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Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: The Silmarilion is not an easy book to follow, narrative wise. I imagine it would be very difficult to make a coherent screen play out of it.
@Adam L Silverman: The entire Silmarilion is impossible to do as a movie. Maybe as a TV show but who would dare?
However, I’m talking only about the story with Beren and Luthien, which is a completely contained story of forbidden love and brave adventure. It would be an amazing movie, or series of movies probably.
Thanks, but it’s actually a week from tomorrow. Yes, I still have another week left in which to worry about the damn thing. Feh.
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Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: If they were really that concerned they would have scheduled you immediately. I know that’s both cold comfort and easy for me to say/write, but it is a hopeful sign.
@Adam L Silverman: I think it would be easy. “From the Producers of Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit comes an old journey through Middle Earth….”
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LAO
@Mnemosyne: what a misery. Not the same, but the last time I was Crohn’s sick, I had to wait 6 weeks between the the recommendation to have a resection and the actual surgery because of the medication I was on. It was the most miserable period of my life but for the recovery.
@Miss Bianca: If you still have the book, Beren and Luthien is also a fun read if you generally like Tolkien. It’s completely standalone and not too long. Give it a read and see what you think. It’s one chapter in the larger section called “Quenta Silmarillion”.
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Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: The entire book is a hard read. I had to force myself and it still took at least three tries of picking it up, getting a bit, wondering why I was reading this, putting it down, and then, ultimately coming back to it. @redshirt: is correct that the self contained chapter on Beren and Luthien is much more readable and easier to follow.
OK, completely geeky question, but…wait a minute, there are some Tolkien geeks in the room here, aren’t there? Isn’t the story of Beren and Luthien in the appendices at the end of “Return of the King”? I know there’s some allusion to them somewhere besides The Silmarillion.
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Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: That’s the Tale of Aragorn and Arwen.
I have a 19.5 inch neck just from being from a sitff-necked family, and working on building stuff and collecting rocks with a hand sledge. It is why I pretty much gave up neckties long ago. Polo shirts with agency logos were a life saver!
And jeans that weren’t blue – for some reason top management thought that banning “blue jeans” would get them better dressed field scientists and engineers. So various tan colors of denim got high ratings – plus there were senior guys who just didn’t care.
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Adam L Silverman
@J R in WV: Testify! I’m okay with ties once the weather cools down. As your in WV, you understand what I mean when I write that summer in South Central PA can be brutal! I was very glad when USAWC went to colored polo shirts during summer unless a 3 Star or Civilian equivalent was visiting.
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Thoughtful David
Cannot….watch.
schrodinger's cat
@Thoughtful David: You and me both
Adam L Silverman
@Thoughtful David: You can do it. We have complete confidence in you!
BR
I am at the point where I am going to put both a Hillary and a Bernie sticker on my car, side by side. Does anyone have suggestions on where the best places are to get stickers of both? (Should I just donate to both campaigns?) I’m tired of the primaries (and don’t care who wins at this point) and want to unify the party to face the GOP.
TheBuhJaysus
Cruz now distancing himself from his pledge to support the R nominee if it’s Trump.
redshirt
Is Trump at this town hall?
MomSense
I’m too tired to watch tonight. I’m fighting off a cold or something and think my evening is going to be hot tea and rest.
TheBuhJaysus
@BR:
That’s a great idea. I think Hillary will be the nominee, but I find Bernie a worthy candidate and would vote for him Without hesitation if he were the D nominee.
Whatever is going to pull as many seats towards the left in November.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
Listening to Thelonius Monk instead. #winning
BR
@TheBuhJaysus:
Looking at both the Hillary and Bernie websites, they both have bumper stickers for $5. I’m going to order both.
Adam L Silverman
Neither the Paris’ nor Brussel’s attacks were the result of being blind sided. In both cases they knew something was coming, they were unable to actually stop the attacks.
As for Senator Cruz’s answer: 1) Ft. Hood is in Texas, 2) his home state is Texas, not Florida, and 3) our efforts in Syria just resulted in the death of the #2 guy in Islamic State’s hierarchy. Finally, Nidal Hassan was in contact with Anwar al Awlawki in 2008, which just happened to be when George W. Bush was President and Senator Ted Cruz worked for his administration. And it was the Intel personnel in Bush’s Administration that determined that the communication had nothing to do with terrorism:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/10/us/10inquire.html
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Yes, Senator Cruz first. Not sure if Trump is second or third.
redshirt
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: My favorite! Monk’s dream is my favorite jazz album and I could listen to it endlessly.
benw
@BR: make sure to put the Bernie one to the left of the Hillary one! :)
Baud
@BR:
You should also get one of those “coexist” stickers to go with them.
SiubhanDuinne
CNN pisses me off. Most of the time, the only way you can watch a debate or town hall on line is if you already have a cable subscription and account number.
I do not have a television, and therefore I do not have a cable subscription nor an account number.
Thus, I am precluded from watching more than 10 minutes’ worth of CNN coverage of any potentially significant political event (minus approximately 2-1/2 to 3 minutes of commercials).
This strikes me as an extremely stupid business model. If I were CNN, I would want to try to persuade people like me to buy a TV and subscribe to cable, and I would do this by offering free online access to public service programs such as town halls and debates.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: I went looking for a proper live stream, but couldn’t find one and didn’t want to link to the “you get ten minutes free” thing they’ve got rigged up.
Mnemosyne
The Republican debates are like “American Idol” to me — wait, that show is still on? Who knew?
They jumped the shark when the literal dick-measuring started, and they haven’t found a suitable Cousin Oliver to win viewers back.
TheBuhJaysus
@BR:
I’ll get both Trump and Cruz bumper stickers and with a piece of added duct tape added in front, have them read FUCK Trump / FUCK Cruz.
Mnemosyne
In other news, it turns out that sometimes It’s Good To Be The King (or at least be covered by the King’s health insurance). My little referral problem shriveled up and faded away as soon as the center pulled the “preferred provider” card on my stubborn medical group. I has a relieved.
SiubhanDuinne
@redshirt:
Supposedly, yes. I saw something earlier that he might cancel, but nothing recently, and if he were going to bail I think it would be a pretty big story.
This is going to go three solid hours. Don’t know if I have the stamina to follow the Guardian‘s live blog. Hell, I don’t even know if Anderson Cooper has the stamina.
Iowa Old Lady
@Mnemosyne: Good. Having health insurance is much better than not having it, but there’s a reason people still hate their insurance companies.
dr. bloor
@SiubhanDuinne:
You might be the only person in North America complaining about not getting enough CNN. If your provider was really smart, they’d be threatening to give it to you 24/7 unless you agreed to a rate increase.
Davebo
@Adam L Silverman:
I think you’ll forgive me if I’m a bit skeptical about “the #2 guy” in any group being killed and therefore we’re safer.
How many #2 guys have we killed so far? 20?
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne:
I didn’t realize that he was well known for his stamina.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: Right now Senator Cruz is talking about cheese and cookies. And I’m now strangely hungry.
Adam L Silverman
Donald Trump is up right after the break!
dr. bloor
@Adam L Silverman: I’d pay eleventy-billion dollars to have you running a live Chyron feed for CNN during this thing.
Adam L Silverman
@Davebo: Usually its the #3 guy that gets killed. Over the past 15 years we’ve killed dozens of #3 guys. So this was a welcome diversion. Except for the #2 guy. But the #3 guy that we didn’t get this time is relieved he gets a promotion and doesn’t have to worry about being on the long list of #3 guys we’ve taken out.
Thoughtful David
@Adam L Silverman:
Nope, sorry, no can do. It’s not good for my sanity, for my blood pressure, or the monitor screen and floor coverings around the set, and the neighbors would probably call the cops on me from the raged yelling.
It’s really just better if I abstain.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Adam L Silverman:
I’m sure it has nothing to do with Scott Walker’s endorsement. Cruz would never be that cynical/
Adam L Silverman
@dr. bloor: Can the censor bleep a chyron feed?
dr. bloor
@Adam L Silverman: It sounds a little like being a #5 seed in the NCAA tournament.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Thanks, that’s precisely what I’m dealing with.
I can listen to CNN audio on SiriusXM in my car, so may catch a piece of the town hall on my way home a bit later.
Adam L Silverman
@the Conster, la Citoyenne: He was answering a question about recruiting quality job candidates and education.
Villago Delenda Est
Cruz is, yet again, being an ignorant regurgitate the talking points ass.
Ho hum.
TheBuhJaysus
https://vine.co/v/igUOiuJOpbY
Betty Cracker
There is so much to hate about Cruz, but here’s something petty that annoys the shit outta me: the way he whips out some lame-ass circa-1980 fucking turn of phrase like “welfare should be a trampoline, not a hammock” in his goddamn annoying adenoidal voice and pauses, smirking, as if for applause or at least acknowledgement of his cleverness. What. A. Dick.
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
Dangerous to children?
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: I remember from the last one and didn’t want to add insult to injury.
Mnemosyne
@Iowa Old Lady:
What’s really funny is that it was never an insurance company problem at all — the problem was with the medical group my doctor now belongs to. When I called Cigna, they were all, Don’t worry, it’s fine, because they knew that my company has that preferred provider regardless of what the medical group wanted, and Cigna’s going to do what my company wants since my company pays the bills.
(One of the reasons this provider is preferred is that one of my company’s bigwigs made a giant donation to it and has his name on the cancer center.)
Iowa Old Lady
@Betty Cracker: How can anyone listen to Cruz and not react that way?
One difference between him and Trump is that Trump draws viewers while Cruz must make people click their remotes to change the channel.
SiubhanDuinne
@dr. bloor:
I hate CNN, but I do want to stay as informed as possible about the candidates, and that means following as many debates and town halls as are available to me. Unfortunately, CNN seems to have snagged a huge number of these events this cycle.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne: You are such a good citizen. Citizen Siubhan!
Steve in the ATL
@Adam L Silverman: If you’re going to fact check Ted Cruz, you are in for a loooooooooooooooong night
And you need to save your energy for tonight’s sovcitpa thread
Davebo
@Betty Cracker:
I think welfare should be like a hotel room jacuzzi. No one with any sense gets in one of those right?
Adam L Silverman
Anyone notice how large the font is on the paper Trump is reading from? Its got to be over 20 point.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Trump’s on now.
Poor old Kasich, relegated to the after-bedtime slot.
TheBuhJaysus
I’m thinking the question and answer portion with the audience and Trump is going to be interesting…
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
No no, he was talking about Jeesus Rookies. You newcomers.
Body and blood comin’ right up. (Too soon? It’s only been two millennia.)
Betty Cracker
Christ, what a blithering moron Trump is. He’s giving his pitch for turning the US into a protection racket.
Davebo
@Adam L Silverman:
Eighty Percent Of Al-Qaeda No. 2s Now Dead
;0)
dr. bloor
@Adam L Silverman: YOOOGE! Is it also in gold ink?
James Franks
@BR:
Free
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https://www.hillaryclinton.com/join/free-sticker/
Store
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Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: Swallow the leader!
debbie
@Baud:
I love that there could be 87 reviews for a bumper sticker.
dr. bloor
@Betty Cracker: “I can’t believe a construction guy from Queens would say something like that,” said no one ever.
TheBuhJaysus
@SiubhanDuinne:
“Body and blood comin’ right up. (Too soon? It’s only been two millennia.)”
Cheddar flavored bodies of Christ were my favorite snack back in Catholic grade school.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Haha, how have I managed to go nearly 74 spins around the giant flaming gasball and not heard that!?!?!?
Baud
@debbie: I think that’s more people than showed up at the Alaska caucus.
debbie
@Betty Cracker:
It’s not just the smirk, it’s the smug smirk.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: My religious studies professor at Emory University. He was a Methodist minister and thought he was HIlarious!
Aleta
Found a live link on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCtzazOXrzo
to the town hall tonight
SiubhanDuinne
@TheBuhJaysus:
Like Pepperidge Farm Goldfish only crucified?
Adam L Silverman
@Aleta: Thanks, I’ll put it up top!
Steve in the ATL
@Aleta:
Why do you hate us?
BillinGlendaleCA
@SiubhanDuinne:
You ran in circles around Trump?
TheBuhJaysus
@SiubhanDuinne:
I would have loved them… I think they could give goldfish a run for their money.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Steve in the ATL: You know what you did.
BillinGlendaleCA
@TheBuhJaysus: Reminds me, I have to think of some snacks to take when the kid and I go hiking day after tomorrow.
Aleta
@Steve in the ATL: why do I hate myself ?
scottinnj
@Adam L Silverman:
Seems the only odds worse than being AlQuada #2 is being drummer for Spinal Tap. Did any of the #2 Al Quada choke on vomit?
Steve in the ATL
@BillinGlendaleCA: Went to law school? Man, that’s been biting me on the ass for years….
Adam L Silverman
@scottinnj: Not that I’m aware.
SiubhanDuinne
@Aleta:
Thanks for that!
Omnes Omnibus
@scottinnj: You can’t dust for vomit.
Aleta
Rainman: “I’m an excellent driver.”
CaseyL
GOP town hall? Nuh-uh. Not gettin’ out of the boat.
@BR: Good idea!
Betty Cracker
Trump is fucking up this top three roles for the federal government question badly.
Iowa Old Lady
I heard some guy on the radio who’d written a book about Trump, and he said the phrase that sums up Trump for him is “Believe me.” Trump believes that he will do awesome things because he’s the one doing them. All you have to do is look and see that he’s there and then believe.
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: He can’t keep his stream of consciousness straight.
schrodinger's cat
@Betty Cracker: Did you read his NYT interview, that man is an imbecile.
dmsilev
@Adam L Silverman: It’s more a babbling brook of consciousness.
Betty Cracker
Aaaannnd Cooper lets him off the hook. Sweet babby Jeebus, can we buy some journalistic integrity?
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: I don’t have that level of self-loathing.
Mnemosyne
@scottinnj:
Damn it, I knew someone was going to beat me to that joke.
@Omnes Omnibus:
And that one, too.
Adam L Silverman
@schrodinger’s cat: It was horrid. Had this not been on tonight, I intended to write about portions of it. Specifically the stuff he started the town hall with about charging for defense support and drawing back and dominating etc. I’ll probably do it tomorrow depending on what’s going on.
TheBuhJaysus
Trump is flopping around like a fish outta water when asked what the top three functions of government should be. He’s said security, security, security, then education, healthcare, housing.
So called conservatives will be foaming at the mouth.
Adam L Silverman
@dmsilev: A babbling brook is pleasant to listen to!
RaflW
@Davebo:
Can’t prove a counterfactual, but we can look at the number of successful ISIS led attacks on Americans at home in the last 7+ years as an indication that you are, except for our homegrown gun nut culture, pretty safe over here. Now, if you don’t feel safe, that may not matter.
dmsilev
@TheBuhJaysus: At least he can count to three and above. By the standards of GOP Presidential candidates, that’s doing pretty well.
Betty Cracker
@schrodinger’s cat: Yes. Idiotic blather from start to finish. Don’t know if you’re watching this train wreck, but he sounds even dumber tonight.
Miss Bianca
@Mnemosyne:
Good news.
Adam L Silverman
That journalism student does not appear impressed by the response to the NATO question.
amk
@Betty Cracker:
but the kenyan hurt their butts by calling them out. so, screw journalistic integrity.
dmsilev
Brussels is a hell-hole? ???
RaflW
@Betty Cracker:
You have to do backflips to get it.
dmsilev
@Adam L Silverman: Would you accept “overflowing sewer pipe of consciousness”?
Adam L Silverman
Putin and Xi must be thrilled with Donald Trump’s town hall answers on NATO.
BillinGlendaleCA
@schrodinger’s cat: I read the WaPo one, yup, total moron.
Adam L Silverman
@dmsilev: According to Donald Trump. Its not, but you can’t tell him that.
Adam L Silverman
@dmsilev: Sure, works for me.
TheBuhJaysus
Trump is exposed when he doesn’t have a foil(low-energy Jeb?! Or Lil’ Marco) to put down or roll his eyes at.
Hillary or Bernie would savage him in a debate.
Davebo
@Betty Cracker:
No, it’s already been sold.
Hungry Joe
@Davebo: Being ISIS’s #3 guy is like wearing a red shirt in “Star Trek.”
Iowa Old Lady
Trump is a bad debater. It wouldn’t surprise me if he refuses to debate in the GE, assuming he’s the candidate.
RaflW
@TheBuhJaysus: Rick Perry can tell you, better to name too many than too few.
Mnemosyne
@Miss Bianca:
Not good yet, but at least it’s one less thing to worry about. I still remember the five-year fight I had with Aetna over an admission to the hospital from the ER (my appendix was inflamed, but fortunately it went down and I didn’t need surgery). They wanted to bill it as out of network because my doctor was out of town that day and it was another doctor in the same OFFICE who advised me to go to the ER.
PhoenixRising
My 16yo: Maybe Donald Trump should ask Siri to explain what ‘nuclear proliferation’ means because I just looked and there are maps and charts and everything!
She’s moved us off CNN to a recorded Dr Oakley episode, because a Canadian vet treating an alpaca for an abscess on his junk is way more qualified to manage the launch codes than Donald Trump.
dmsilev
Has there ever been a major-party candidate for President who has been as insecure as Trump?
Adam L Silverman
@PhoenixRising: You normally don’t see alpaca junk discussed before 10 PM, but given what we’re all talking about it seems to work.
Adam L Silverman
@dmsilev: Nixon. And the only difference is Nixon’s grievances were against those he believed were better than him and looking down at him. Donald Trump is simply a thin skinned bully with a lot of resources.
Omnes Omnibus
@PhoenixRising: To be fair, the abscess on the alpaca’s junk is way more qualified to manage the launch codes than Donald Trump.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: But after 10pm, it’s all alpaca junk.
Miss Bianca
@SiubhanDuinne: @Adam L Silverman:
CNN only gives you 10 minutes if you’re not subscribed? Is *that* why the last time I tried to watch the Sanders-Clinton debate on this very site that the feed suddenly stopped and would not start again? Here I thought it was my Internet connection.
Adam L Silverman
@BillinGlendaleCA: wall to wall!
Iowa Old Lady
According to Trump, he’s been treated very, very unfairly.
Whoever made the Rainman comparison nailed it. That’s exactly Trump’s manner.
SiubhanDuinne
@Betty Cracker:
Oh, Betty, you crack me the fuck up. You so droll.
TheBuhJaysus
@RaflW:
Ol’ Rick got him sum fancy glasses and that whole counting thing became easy.
“One, two, three, …four………..five! ” :: bespectacled Rick left grinning like he just went potty for the first time ::
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: Just how big *is* it?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Miss Bianca: Nah, just CNN being alpaca junk.
Adam L Silverman
@Gin & Tonic: just check out the size of the alpaca’s hands!
Adam L Silverman
Tip & Ronnie: Drink! or Bingo! Whichever game you’re playing.
Mnemosyne
@dmsilev:
Just don’t say “Belgium” out loud. It’s a very naughty word.
sigaba
@Adam L Silverman: I thought we always used to kill the #3 guy because we always used to kill someone, but that someone was neither Osama bin Laden nor Al Zawahiri, and the latter was always identified as “Al Quaeda number 2.”
Adam L Silverman
@sigaba: That’s pretty much it.
Betty Cracker
@dmsilev: Maybe Nixon.
RaflW
@TheBuhJaysus: I would imagine bespectacled Rick is wondering how the f*@k a man less qualified than alpaca junk is the frontrunner while he’s nowheresville. I hated Perry, but he seems almost reasonable now. Which is quite a stunt the Donald is pulling off.
Miss Bianca
@Mnemosyne:
Ah. Good-ish news? Not-as-sucky-as-it-might-be news?
Medical insurance horror stories…good times! Got plenty of them from my bike accident. Good news is that I *had* insurance, bad news is that I had to fight them like hell every step of the way to get them to pay for treatments my doctors had recommended. Made the stress of recovery just ever so much easier to take, don’t you know…
I can understand *why* people want to go to a single-payer system, if they thought it might make access to treatment less complicated and frustrating.
divF
@PhoenixRising:
and all the males on line cross their legs nervously.
Aleta
“My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention.”
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: Prejudice.
Miss Bianca
@BillinGlendaleCA:
“Alpaca junk”???!
The computer is threatening to shake out of my lap on account of the lulz, man…
Steve in the ATL
@dmsilev:
Well, I can tell you this from the summer I spent there studying EEC law: the cool place to be on Friday evening? On the train to Paris.
SiubhanDuinne
@Aleta:
Woah, heavy, man.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Miss Bianca: It’s after 10pm EDT, so it’s wall-to-wall alpaca junk on Balloon Juice.
Miss Bianca
@RaflW:
God, who’d ever have thought we’d be nostalgic for *Rick Perry*, for all love?
And Pres. GWB is starting to look positively Presidential next to these – to borrow dr. bloor’s newly-immortal phrase – umbilical stumps.
(which is truly the only epithet worthy of being compared to “alpaca junk” right now).
redshirt
Alpaca Junk
is my new band name.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: Finally!
Mnemosyne
@Miss Bianca:
Since I get to take the whole day off work for the biopsy, I’m debating what treats to buy myself. Do I just want Kindle books, or do I want to go to the used bookstore this weekend and pick out a stack? Cupcakes or ice cream? Or both?
Adam L Silverman
@divF: Funny leg crossing story. UF has a building, right next to the O Dome that previously housed the basketball court. It was retrofitted into classrooms and offices and conference rooms. The two big seminar rooms, which used to be the basketball court and have been subdivided at what was mid court, have stepped stadium style seating for the desks. This is because the court had fixed stadium seating, not the collapsable bleachers. The first time I had to teach in one of these rooms I walked in, plopped my bag down on the desk, put my outline on the podium, fired up the computer stuff, and turned around to face the students waiting for class to start. Every woman in that room, including the ones wearing jeans or other types of pants, immediately crossed their legs and put their bags on their laps. The top of my head was just at foot level for the lowest row of seats. Every class the same thing happened. It was reflex and I understand it. I’m still not sure anyone who authorized the retrofit does.
divF
@SiubhanDuinne: Nah, just Hedley being Hedley.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: That’s no way to get an “A.”
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: Trump wasn’t wrong about infrastructure degradation though. Of course he didn’t explain that our infrastructure is falling apart because one party demands constant tax cuts and refuses to fund public works. At any level of government.
divF
@Adam L Silverman: The male true story for that was in a class Madame divF took during medical school, with nine men and three women. As soon as the instructor said the words “testicular cancer”, all the men crossed their legs.
Miss Bianca
@Mnemosyne:
“All of them, Katie”?
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: After about the third or fourth class you stopped noticing.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: You might, but Baud?
Tom Levenson
@Mnemosyne: Both and both, of course. Best of luck…
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman:
That’s the weird thing about Trump: he closes one eye, squints at the target, looses a shaft seemingly at random and amazingly enough comes close enough to the bullseye that he gets a roar from the crowd. Problem is, he thinks he can just do that shit all the time – he doesn’t have to, you know, PRACTICE or KNOW anything – he’s just going to wing an arrow, any old arrow, at any old target and think he’s fucking AMAZING.
Mnemosyne
@Tom Levenson:
Thanks! The odds of it being anything serious are very low, but that doesn’t make the waiting any less stressful.
redshirt
@Mnemosyne: Iced cream goes well with cupcakes, I’ve found. But there’s nothing like the smell of an old book. Probably mold spores entering your brain, but still, nostalgic.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@redshirt:
Far out.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Good thoughts from this direction too!
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: When you put ice cream on an old book do you use sprinkles? Or is this a hot fudge or hot caramel topping sort of thing?
RaflW
Based on the way twitter has slowed to a trickle, one assumes Kasich is boring the pants off the (few remaining) viewers now?
Aleta
Now we have to picture Arnold loving his beatings ?
Aleta
@Mnemosyne: Eclairs ?
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: Mmm, old paperbacks.
the Conster, la Citoyenne
@Miss Bianca:
Trump will be the Kim Jong Un of America. Wheeeee!!!!
CaseyL
@redshirt:
Nostalgia = mold spores in the brain. I like it!
Trying to get my mind around the people who support Trump when he sounds dumber and dumberer every time he opens his mouth. At this point, I’m willing to go with “He hates who we hate” as the single and only reason for supporting him.
Miss Bianca
@BillinGlendaleCA: @redshirt:
Well, I think “wall-to-wall alpaca junk” ought to be a new rotating tag line, myself…
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: The mind it boggles.
Gin & Tonic
@Adam L Silverman: Interesting post on Language Log yesterday or today, riffing off an xkcd, about podium vs lectern. You were probably at a lectern.
/pedant
Miss Bianca
@the Conster, la Citoyenne:
Is that manic glee or terror I perceive in those dulcet tones?
redshirt
@Miss Bianca: You mean “Random quote”, of course.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: Hey, I’m just reading the copy, here.
@redshirt:
Of…of course. You’re right. Of course. (hangs head, sobs softly in shame).
Adam L Silverman
@CaseyL: Never underestimate the power of hate.
— Atrocitus, Green Lantern (vol. 4) #32 (June 2008)
Mnemosyne
@redshirt:
The bookstore I’m thinking of has resident kitties, so bonus.
Gin & Tonic
@Miss Bianca: No, you should have said “the hell with you, you whippersnapper, in our day those were ‘rotating tag lines’ and to me that’s how they’ll remain.”
I miss having them at the top. I miss the balloon guy, too.
Amir Khalid
@CaseyL:
We all know what Trump talk is like: ignorance, bigotry, bluster. I’ve heard of some people (like Scott Baio) who said they were endorsing Trump because he talked like they did. It seems like an awful lack of self-awareness on their part.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: This might be the most nerdiest thing ever posted on BJ. And I know nerd.
Miss Bianca
@Gin & Tonic:
Goddammit, everybody’s cracking me up tonight. You’re right, of course. Can I order Redshirt off my lawn, too? Or should I just beam him down to the planet with the Main Cast?
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: lol. That was the joke!
Seriously, we need our rotating tag lines, with fresh new material.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: No, any implicit criticism of Tommy is out tonight.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Adam L Silverman: Sprinkles; I thought that whould have been obvious.
@Miss Bianca: Absolutely. Make it so, someone with those powers.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Probably this would be nerdier:
–Indigo Tribe (Lantern) Oath
Or Rot Lop Fan’s (the Blind Green Lantern):
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: Tommy did a fantastic job. Tommy’s Mom told me so.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: lol. You’re literally breaking new ground.
What’s kinda cool is the Spider-Man quote:
“With great power comes great responsibility”
has become mainstream. As it is very apt.
Adam L Silverman
You can really tell the difference in the candidates with Governor Kasich. Regardless of whether you agree with his positions, he’s an experienced politician with legislative and executive branch experience. And you can see the difference in how he approaches the town hall, Anderson Cooper’s, and the audience’s questions.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: Here’s all of them:
http://greenlantern.wikia.com/wiki/Lantern_Oaths_(Disambiguation)
Was never quite sure what Bzzd’s oath was as he was a sentient mosquito like Green Lantern partner with Mogo in Sector 2261.
Adam L Silverman
The hipster student needs to buy a shirt with a collar that fits his neck. Not my neck! For the record I have an 18 inch neck and can lift several hundred pounds with it, which is why my head basically tapers into my shoulders…
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman:
Makes quoting “A Elbereth Gilthoniel…” seem as pedestrian as “it was a dark and stormy night”.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@redshirt: Shit, Tommy told us so himself. Repeatedly, and occasionally heatedly.
FlyingToaster
@Adam L Silverman: So you’re a Sontaran, then?
[Ducks, head’s back to the Tardis]
The Lodger
@Adam L Silverman: This is starting to develop an eerie resemblance to being the drummer from Spinal Tap.
amk
donald dreck: pledge? what fucking pledge? screw you, gop.
LAO
So what did I miss?
@redshirt: it’s made it into a Supreme Court decision. http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/22/spider_man_supreme_court_case_kagan_cites_the_comic_book.html
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: from memory, as chanted by Gildor Inglorien, from “A Long Walk to Mushrooms”:
redshirt
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Yes. It was a strange time. Let us all collectively forget it.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: True.
LAO
@Mnemosyne: good luck tomorrow.
redshirt
@LAO: That’s wonderful. I didn’t know that about Justice Kagan and it makes her maybe my favorite Justice.
Adam L Silverman
@FlyingToaster: Casualties can be kept to 80%!
I would definitely watch a Vastra, Jenny, and Strax show.
No, I’m not a Sontaran. I wrestled in high school and our coach, correctly, emphasized developing neck strength to prevent injury. I’ve always stuck with that over the years. As a result I have an 18 inch neck. I do not have a head that looks like it came from a 1:1 scale Mr. Potato Head and I’m not the result of a mass cloning process. Though my Dad did once say I was an immaculate deception.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman:
“From memory”, she mutters. From fucking memory. Of course. But why should I be surprised? That’s it – I’ve officially given up being surprised at *anything* that comes out of your mouth. Virtually speaking, of course.
Adam L Silverman
@The Lodger: My understanding, though I can’t prove it, was that This is Spinal Tap is an important part of our grand strategic vision.
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: I did go to double check the spelling online at one of the Tolkien Wikis. Around here if I had gotten something wrong, someone would notice and point it out!
I was an obsessive Tolkien reader as a kid. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve read the Lord of the Rings.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@redshirt: Good idea.
@Mnemosyne: I’ll be thinking good thoughts for you tomorrow.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman:
I did, too, actually. Check the spelling. Cause sure enough, I had remembered it as “ilbereth” not “elbereth”.
Don’t tell anyone. My Tolkien card will get revoked.
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: There’s about five or six different versions at different points in the book, as you know. This was the one that always stuck with me.
redshirt
@Miss Bianca: In this age of Daredevil and Luke Cage TV shows and Iron Man being the star of the biggest grossing movie series ever, I’m realistically hoping I see a movie about Beren and Luthien before I die. Or a trilogy if that’s required.
It’s got everything a modern blockbuster needs, plus it can be Lord of the Rings branded, so it’s got built in appeal.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: The Silmarilion is not an easy book to follow, narrative wise. I imagine it would be very difficult to make a coherent screen play out of it.
Miss Bianca
@redshirt:
What does it say about me that in the age of Daredevil and Luke Cage that I’m hoping for a Reid Fleming or Flaming Carrot movie?
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: The entire Silmarilion is impossible to do as a movie. Maybe as a TV show but who would dare?
However, I’m talking only about the story with Beren and Luthien, which is a completely contained story of forbidden love and brave adventure. It would be an amazing movie, or series of movies probably.
Mnemosyne
@LAO:
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
Thanks, but it’s actually a week from tomorrow. Yes, I still have another week left in which to worry about the damn thing. Feh.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: If they were really that concerned they would have scheduled you immediately. I know that’s both cold comfort and easy for me to say/write, but it is a hopeful sign.
PaulWartenberg2016
So it’s official that all three remaining candidates say they will NOT support the eventual nominee?
That means it will be war in Cleveland.
Especially if Cruz succeeds in keeping enough delegates away from Trump.
Again, I sound the warning to all citizens in Cleveland. EVACUATE. Pretend it’s another Browns home game that week and flee for your lives.
redshirt
@PaulWartenberg2016: I agree. It will be an explosion of angry Republicans. Some of whom may be armed.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: It could be done. The problem is whether it would sell widely. Even among Tolkien fans a lot of them never made it through The Silmarilion.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: I think it would be easy. “From the Producers of Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit comes an old journey through Middle Earth….”
LAO
@Mnemosyne: what a misery. Not the same, but the last time I was Crohn’s sick, I had to wait 6 weeks between the the recommendation to have a resection and the actual surgery because of the medication I was on. It was the most miserable period of my life but for the recovery.
The waiting can kill you. Keep your spirits up.
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman:
I among ’em. I am not ashamed to admit it.
redshirt
@Miss Bianca: If you still have the book, Beren and Luthien is also a fun read if you generally like Tolkien. It’s completely standalone and not too long. Give it a read and see what you think. It’s one chapter in the larger section called “Quenta Silmarillion”.
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: The entire book is a hard read. I had to force myself and it still took at least three tries of picking it up, getting a bit, wondering why I was reading this, putting it down, and then, ultimately coming back to it. @redshirt: is correct that the self contained chapter on Beren and Luthien is much more readable and easier to follow.
Adam L Silverman
I’m off to bed. But for @redshirt: and @Miss Bianca: I highly recommend The Last Ringbearer. You can find the English translation as a pdf here:
http://negativesum.net/Members/hoss/misc/lastringbearer.pdf
Miss Bianca
@Adam L Silverman: @redshirt:
OK, completely geeky question, but…wait a minute, there are some Tolkien geeks in the room here, aren’t there? Isn’t the story of Beren and Luthien in the appendices at the end of “Return of the King”? I know there’s some allusion to them somewhere besides The Silmarillion.
Adam L Silverman
@Miss Bianca: That’s the Tale of Aragorn and Arwen.
J R in WV
@Adam L Silverman:
I have a 19.5 inch neck just from being from a sitff-necked family, and working on building stuff and collecting rocks with a hand sledge. It is why I pretty much gave up neckties long ago. Polo shirts with agency logos were a life saver!
And jeans that weren’t blue – for some reason top management thought that banning “blue jeans” would get them better dressed field scientists and engineers. So various tan colors of denim got high ratings – plus there were senior guys who just didn’t care.
Adam L Silverman
@J R in WV: Testify! I’m okay with ties once the weather cools down. As your in WV, you understand what I mean when I write that summer in South Central PA can be brutal! I was very glad when USAWC went to colored polo shirts during summer unless a 3 Star or Civilian equivalent was visiting.