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You are here: Home / Elections / Biden For President / Friday Morning Open Thread: March (the Squatter Out of the White House)

Friday Morning Open Thread: March (the Squatter Out of the White House)

by Anne Laurie|  June 26, 20206:47 am| 73 Comments

This post is in: Biden For President, Music, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You

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Joe Biden says President Trump's "senseless crusade" to end Obamacare would harm those with the coronavirus https://t.co/L4R6LNIc96 pic.twitter.com/R0YfRe8hl4

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) June 26, 2020

… “If Donald Trump won’t end his senseless crusade against health coverage, I look forward to ending it for him,” the presumptive Democratic 2020 presidential nominee said in a speech in Lancaster, Pennsylvania…

Biden linked Trump’s bid to undo Obamacare to the coronavirus pandemic, saying that those who suffer the virus could live caught in a “vise” between Trump’s “twin legacies.” Those, Biden said, are Trump’s “failure to protect the American people from the coronavirus, and his heartless crusade to take health care protections away from American families.”

“If Donald Trump has his way, complications from Covid-19 could become a new pre-existing condition. Some survivors will experience lasting health impacts — like lung scarring and heart damage. And if Donald Trump prevails in court, insurers would be allowed to strip away coverage or jack up premiums — simply because of their battle with the coronavirus,” Biden said.

The former vice president called Trump’s effort “cruel,” “heartless” and “callous,” and said he believes Trump’s motivation behind the long-term effort to repeal Obamacare is that “he can’t abide to let stand one of President Obama’s great achievements.”…

Biden accused Trump of reacting to the pandemic “like a child who can’t believe this has happened to him. All this whining and self-pity.”

“Well, this pandemic didn’t happen to him. It happened to all of us. And his job isn’t to whine about it, his job is to do something about it. To lead,” Biden said.

“Mr. President, drop the lawsuit,” he said. “Stop trying to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. Stop taking away people’s health care and their peace of mind.”…

The former vice president on Thursday sought to reassure Americans as the country faces the twin crises of a pandemic and the soaring unemployment it has caused.

“If you’re sick, if you’re struggling, if you’re worried about how you’re going to get through the day, I will not abandon you. I will not leave you to face these challenges alone. And we’re going to get through this together,” Biden said. “We’re going to build a health care system. We’re going to build on it. We’re going to build our economy — our country — back to better than it was before this God-awful crisis, that I promise you.”

if anything else, it is really an odd choice to attack universal health care during a literal pandemic, in which countries with universal health care are doing much better than the united "125k dead" states

— Gerry Doyle (@mgerrydoyle) June 26, 2020


Look, don't be complacent, things can happen, vote suppression and ratfucking will happen, but Trump's polling is genuinely awful and giving up on suppressing COVID basically guarantees an economy that will remain in a depression https://t.co/8D0vGXFodm

— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) June 25, 2020

NEW: FOX News Polls In 2020 Swing States #FoxNews #FoxPoll pic.twitter.com/3DfZwe9bEk

— Wyatt Dobrovich (@WyattDobrovich) June 25, 2020

Trump is going to absolutely demolish Biden in the debates with…pre-emptive self-pity for his inevitable loss. https://t.co/JffHZoWT2E

— Tentin Quarantino (@agraybee) June 26, 2020

Lmao he’s so defeated. He doesn’t care at all. He’s never going to resign but he’s practically doing a meta-commentary about himself phoning it in. https://t.co/Q5uXjlnmx1

— Tentin Quarantino (@agraybee) June 26, 2020

trump’s strategy of zipping about the country holding big virusdome parties and aimlessly shouting who the fuck is in charge of this place really working out well for him https://t.co/zzJCe2aBVo

— kilgore trout, a ramp with no steps (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 26, 2020

Carville just said it’s more likely that Trump doesn’t run than that he’ll be re-elected.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) June 26, 2020

this is an excellent argument in his favor. https://t.co/1LGKT8b5Zp

— golikehellmachine (@golikehellmachi) June 25, 2020

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  1. 1.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 26, 2020 at 6:56 am

    Good morning! Absolutely love the Chicks’ song.

    Is Amir around? Huge congratulations on Liverpool ⚽️ — you must be over the moon with happiness!

  2. 2.

    Betty Cracker

    June 26, 2020 at 6:57 am

    I read this line that is quoted above from Biden’s speech last night…

    Biden accused Trump of reacting to the pandemic “like a child who can’t believe this has happened to him. All this whining and self-pity.”

    “Well, this pandemic didn’t happen to him. It happened to all of us. And his job isn’t to whine about it, his job is to do something about it. To lead,” Biden said.

    …and thought that is pitch perfect. Even if you’re not a hardcore Democrat, even if you think people blame Trump for stuff that isn’t his fault, the man’s incessant whining, self-pity and finger-pointing are tiresome and unpresidential. Here’s hoping Biden keeps up that exact tone for the next five months.

    Also, I hope Trump and his campaign keep accusing Biden of being incapable of coherent speech and thought. Just keep right on ratcheting that bar down…what could possibly go wrong?

  3. 3.

    Bruce K

    June 26, 2020 at 7:01 am

    I know it’s too early, and there are tons of opportunities for vote-rigging by the GOP, but I took a look at the recent breakdowns on electoral-vote.com, and … if the GOP has to fight hard to hold Texas, then they’re in deep trouble. Like “how much time do the water pumps buy us before the Titanic sinks” trouble.

  4. 4.

    Jeffro

    June 26, 2020 at 7:02 am

    “Pardons all around, I’m outta here!” – DJT, August 2020

    (I wish!)

    Here’s hoping that the occasional Rasmussen or OANN poll keeps his spirits up from time to time, long enough for him and the GOP to limp/drag/crawl into November!

  5. 5.

    gkoutnik

    June 26, 2020 at 7:02 am

    Oh, Lord, those names kept coming.  I wanted to scream “Stop!  Stop!” but they didn’t.  Just came faster.

  6. 6.

    burnspbesq

    June 26, 2020 at 7:04 am

    It’s actually not Trump’s lawsuit to drop. He could order Barr to have DOJ exit the case, but the plaintiffs are 20 or so red states, led by Texas. I have no idea what it would take to get our asshole AG to back off.

    Still, getting DOJ out of the case would be helpful.

  7. 7.

    prufrock

    June 26, 2020 at 7:11 am

    Regarding the Carville statement that Trump isn’t going to run, Paul Campos over at LGM has been beating that drum for a month or two now.  Given that four years ago Paul was constantly sounding the alarm that Trump had a good chance to win, maybe this is a thing.

  8. 8.

    Jeffro

    June 26, 2020 at 7:12 am

    Tucker Carlson’s noting that trumpov “must rediscover his core appeal to voters”, aka strength.

    Good luck with that, Tucker!  President* whinybaby isn’t projecting a whole lot of ‘strength’ these days.

    (Looking forward to the Carlson/Don Jr debates in 2024…quite a party you have there, GOP!)

  9. 9.

    Bruce K

    June 26, 2020 at 7:15 am

    @Jeffro: Carlson neatly elides the problem that Trump’s core appeal to his voters starts with an R, ends with “ism”, and is flagged by Slaver Swastikas.

  10. 10.

    JAFD

    June 26, 2020 at 7:16 am

    Good morning, Jackals and gentlepeople !

    Hope you are all staying healthy, happy and hydrated, hands washed and masks high.  Am feeling OK, depressed about state of nation…  Actual in person doctor’s appointment Monday.

    New Jersey getting reopened.  Rented car over weekend.  Caught up on errands.  Then past couple of days putting stuf away.

    Whatever you do, do not purchase a Dodge Grand Caravan minivan.  Handles lke <bleep>.  Going round interchanges, I-80, thought it was going to roll off road on its side.

    Stores pretty well stocked, supermarkets ‘1 multipack paper towels and TP each’ but at Home Depot, get all you want.  Frozen vegetables short, tho – 6 packages each.  No frozen peas.*

    Put new power jigsaw into service.  Found, first, you really need wood you’re sawing clamped down.  and second, if clamped to work table, vibration will shake off anything near edge.  But got acceptable job done.  Onwards…

     

    *”Space Aliens In The Frozen Food ???”

    “Yes, but don’t worry.  They come in peas.”

  11. 11.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 26, 2020 at 7:16 am

    @prufrock: The only way trump won’t run is if someone he trusts can convince him he will not just lose, but lose in an embarrassingly bad fashion.

    I don’t see anyone anywhere near that honest in his “circle of trust.”

  12. 12.

    debbie

    June 26, 2020 at 7:19 am

    Just now on an NPR interview: “I’ve seen a few cases where it (police brutality) seemed gratuitous.” Fuck you, Bob Barr

     

    ETA: He also wondered, in an effort to support Trump’s maximum authority, why no one was questioning the governors’ decision to close down their states.

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 26, 2020 at 7:20 am

    @JAFD: But got acceptable job done.

    Without *cutting the worktable* you had it clamped to? I’m impressed.

    ** something I have done innumerable times.

  14. 14.

    rikyrah

    June 26, 2020 at 7:20 am

    Good Morning,Everyone ???

  15. 15.

    Geminid

    June 26, 2020 at 7:22 am

    In 2018 the the guidance given to candidates by the Democratic Congressional Communications Committee- Cicilline (RI), Bustos (IL), Jeffries (NY)- was to pound two main issues: attack the tax cut for corporations and the rich, and defend the Affordable Care Act. We picked up 41 seats. That the administration is highlighting this issue now is really stupid. But typical.

  16. 16.

    debbie

    June 26, 2020 at 7:22 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I think the strategy of portraying Trump as a spoiled, whiny child is a keeper!

  17. 17.

    rikyrah

    June 26, 2020 at 7:22 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

     

    They will never do it:

    1. Nobody loves him

    2. They are too busy stealing from the campaign?  They want those $$$$

  18. 18.

    SFAW

    June 26, 2020 at 7:23 am

    @JAFD:

    *”Space Aliens In The Frozen Food ???”

    “Yes, but don’t worry.  They come in peas.”

    Somewhere, NotMax is saying “Hey! That’s MY schtick!”

  19. 19.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 26, 2020 at 7:24 am

    @debbie: There are times I feel like taking a baseball bat to Barr’s knees would not only be not gratuitous, but lenient.

  20. 20.

    JPL

    June 26, 2020 at 7:24 am

    When Fox news asked what is Biden going to do about the deficit, we’ll know that the republicans are giving up.

  21. 21.

    Cameron

    June 26, 2020 at 7:24 am

    @Jeffro: His core appeal?  As far as I’m concerned, he has neither a core nor an appeal.  A thin-skinned balloon overinflated with seething resentment and relentless, remorseless self-pity.

  22. 22.

    SFAW

    June 26, 2020 at 7:25 am

    @debbie:

    Fuck you, Bob Barr.

    Clinton-impeaching Bob Barr? Or Corrupt Consigliere Bill Barr?

    I mean, it works either way, but just want clarification.

    ETA: And then I remembered that NPR (Steve Inskeep, maybe?) was scheduled to give Bill Barr a tongue bath this AM.

  23. 23.

    sanjeevs

    June 26, 2020 at 7:26 am

    This Mike Pence op-ed from 10 days ago has aged well.

     

     

    wsj.com/articles/there-isnt-a-coronavirus-second-wave-11592327890

  24. 24.

    debbie

    June 26, 2020 at 7:26 am

    @SFAW:

    All of him and all of his misguided beliefs.

  25. 25.

    Punchy

    June 26, 2020 at 7:27 am

    @Bruce K: I don’t see vote-rigging per se, but I foresee sudden and inexplicable massive reductions in both polling places and “working” polling machines suddenly arise the morning of election day.  In urban areas only, of course.  In only swing states, of course.

  26. 26.

    Baud

    June 26, 2020 at 7:27 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  27. 27.

    JPL

    June 26, 2020 at 7:29 am

    @Punchy: They are not going down without committing massive fraud first.

  28. 28.

    SFAW

    June 26, 2020 at 7:29 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    There are times I feel like taking a baseball bat to Barr’s knees would not only be not gratuitous, but lenient.

    If you need help/backup with applying that extremely lenient punishment, let me know.

  29. 29.

    sanjeevs

    June 26, 2020 at 7:33 am

    @JPL: Trump might want to throw in the towel. Putin not so much

  30. 30.

    Baud

    June 26, 2020 at 7:33 am

    @sanjeevs:

    The headline is accurate, since the first wave will never end.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    June 26, 2020 at 7:35 am

    I turned on the TV this morning and some talking head was blabbing about how Joe Biden had been quiet.

    It’s working, so ignore the haters.

  32. 32.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 26, 2020 at 7:41 am

    The messaging service Viber, the fifth biggest with more than a billion users around the world, is severing all ties to Facebook as part of a growing boycott of the company by commercial partners.

    The campaign, initially started in the US after Facebook’s refusal to take action against posts from Donald Trump which critics said incited violence, has now grown to become an international movement.
    Facebook to be hit by its largest ever advertiser boycott over racism
    Read more

    Viber, owned by the Japanese conglomerate Rakuten, has its largest markets in eastern Europe, south-east Asia, and north Africa, and the company’s chief executive, Djamel Agaoua, said the move to cut ties was prompted by Facebook’s “poor judgment in understanding its role in today’s world”.

    On Wednesday, Viber pulled all advertising from Facebook and its sister app Instagram. Now, the company has begun the more labour-intensive process of removing all Facebook technology from Viber’s own apps.

    The company uses a number of Facebook tools, Agaoua said. Facebook Connect enables a “login with Facebook” button, common in apps and on websites across the world, while Viber also integrates with Giphy, an animated gif search engine that Facebook bought in May.

    “It’s something that will hurt some of our users [who] like to use the Facebook Connect solutions to log in. It’s hurt some of our marketing strategies, because they won’t be able to use Facebook advertising to promote their campaigns. It’s not an easy decision. It’s not going to kill Viber, but it hurts,” Agaoua said.

    “We are not the arbiters of truth, but the truth is some people are suffering from the proliferation of violent content and companies must take a clear stand.”

    Why do they hate conservatives?

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    June 26, 2020 at 7:42 am

    @JAFD

    On the plus side, the chance of your being charged with disturbing the peas has dropped substantially.

    Worth linking it again: Dammit, peas matter!

    :)

  34. 34.

    Amir Khalid

    June 26, 2020 at 7:43 am

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    In any other season I would be, but the English Premier League was resumed in a country that hasn’t managed the pandemic particularly well. I’m still worried that someone might catch Covid-19 because of the resumption of football, or even die. No amount of sporting glory is worth that. Of course I’m happy that Liverpool are champions again, but until/unless the season ends without anybody getting sick I’m not done worrying.

  35. 35.

    Suzanne

    June 26, 2020 at 7:44 am

    Carville just said it’s more likely that Trump doesn’t run than that he’ll be re-elected.

    This strikes me as highly, HIGHLY unlikely. I am sure he already has his eye on the next grift. If he backs out of the race, it would seem to me that he’d lose a portion of his cult base.

  36. 36.

    Baud

    June 26, 2020 at 7:45 am

    @Suzanne: I agree. It would truly shock me if he did that.

  37. 37.

    Suzanne

    June 26, 2020 at 7:48 am

    @Baud: I mean, I’d love it. The wingnut tears would be mindblowing and I’m a mean girl and I’d savor every moment. But it’s not happening.

  38. 38.

    Sm*t Cl*de

    June 26, 2020 at 7:49 am

    @NotMax:

    Give peas a chance!

  39. 39.

    Betty Cracker

    June 26, 2020 at 7:53 am

    Looks like the Sahara dust cloud has finally reached our swamp. The sky is gray like a cloudy day but there are no clouds on the radar. The frogs must be confused. 

  40. 40.

    JAFD

    June 26, 2020 at 7:54 am

    @Amir Khalid: Second your hopes that everyone comes out of the season ‘alive and kicking’.  Nevertheless, ’twas two years of accomplishments even us Toffee fans can admire.

  41. 41.

    JPL

    June 26, 2020 at 7:54 am

    The Washington Post has an article stating that the WSJ editorial slammed trump..     link

    The Journal also faults Trump for failing to provide “firm but empathetic leadership after the death of George Floyd” and says that Trump may soon need another nickname for Joe Biden other than “Sleepy Joe.”

    “How does President-elect sound?” the editorial asks.

  42. 42.

    Baud

    June 26, 2020 at 7:55 am

    One is a lonely number.

    Senate panel votes 21-1 to back Justice IG measure over Graham objections

  43. 43.

    burnspbesq

    June 26, 2020 at 7:58 am

    @Baud:

    Given the extent of his potential legal problems if he loses the protection of the two bullshit OLC memos saying a sitting president can’t be indicted, the choice for Trump is pretty clear: re-election or prison.

  44. 44.

    CarolDuhart2

    June 26, 2020 at 7:59 am

    @Suzanne: It may not be up to him.  He’s running around maskless and asking other people around him to do so.  There’s only so many spins on the roulette wheel you can take before it lands on a number where you lose.  (That’s why they call it gambling).  And the house-and the virus-will win if you let it.

    Going to my first in person dr’s appointment sometime in the next 2 weeks.  Bought cheap face shields that don’t fit, or I would already have made the appointment.  Even with that, and the measures the clinic has taken, I’m nervous as all hell (All four really bad underlying conditions for Covid-Every day I stay at home, I’m knocking on wood, and grateful to be retired).

    Also a case of nerves-I’m having my ducts cleaned out this Thursday, and It will take probably two hours that were scheduled, because the last time I had them cleaned was sometime in 2007, when I was between cats.  I have had at least 2 sinus infections in three months, and realized I needed to do something about this, and found out that the accumulation was probably a good source.

    And speaking of cats, I have a ton of cat hairand one throw spread.  Will buy another one just so I can switch between two, along with a something you can put in the washer that eliminates the cat hair.

  45. 45.

    Baud

    June 26, 2020 at 8:00 am

    @burnspbesq:

    The Biden campaign should hand out “Junior Prosecutor” pins to supporters.

  46. 46.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 26, 2020 at 8:02 am

    Met chief ‘dumbfounded’ by officers’ alleged photos of murdered sisters

    Those Brits could learn a thing or 2 from us. Our police don’t just take inappropriate pictures of the bodies, they create the bodies too.

  47. 47.

    NotMax

    June 26, 2020 at 8:03 am

    @Sm*t Cl*de

    Oh, somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright;
    the band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
    and somewhere children’s laughter wafts on a gentle breeze
    but there is no joy in Joisey — JAFD has found no peas.

    h/t: Casey at the Bat

    :)

  48. 48.

    montanareddog

    June 26, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @Amir Khalid: Guardian long read on how Klopp rejuvenated  a fallen giant.

     

    Trust, patience and hard work

  49. 49.

    Amir Khalid

    June 26, 2020 at 8:15 am

    @prufrock:

    I’m not sure Carville was suggesting that not running is among the options Trump is considering. It doesn’t strike me as an available option. Trump can’t keep up the presidential grifting from outside the Oval Office.

    Also too, the Republican party cancelled its primary for Trump. Just imagine the chaos in the party if he refused the nomination when it had no alternative nominee and no time to find one.

    Also also too,  the Biden administration DoJ might not be as protective of Trump as it is now. Re-election is Trump’s best hope of avoiding prosecution and having to move to a really big house with many roommates.

    I suspect that what Carville is really saying that Trump’s choices are the unavailable option not to run and certain defeat in November..

  50. 50.

    narya

    June 26, 2020 at 8:19 am

    Morning everyone! Kitchen (and bathroom) update! They pulled pipes for the electric from the basement, found the hot box for the rest of the unit, put in a new box for the kitchen, etc. They may finish the electric today. Meanwhile, I asked the contractor if he knew a plumber, because I needed a new wax seal, and he . . . just did it himself. Turns out I needed TWO rings, because the place it sits was so deep. He also replaced the fill valve . . . which means I now have an extra one. I had bought one weeks ago, intending to replace the one in that toilet, but hadn’t gotten around to it and didn’t tell him I had it. He saw that the one in there wasn’t working and went out and got a new one and fixed it. I continue to be very happy I found this guy. The long weekend next week contributes to the likelihood that this will take at least two more weeks, but the induction burner has turned out to be a great purchase.

  51. 51.

    SectionH

    June 26, 2020 at 8:20 am

    @JAFD: You’re so right about fucking Dodge minivan shit now.

    Which makes me so sad. Because we drove our ’86 (well Plymouth) minivan 455.000 miles and it was still running when our mechanic guy gave  us a few hundred $ for it. Now that baby was a 5 speed. There were about ~700 ever made. (In Windsor, for those who might care.) But we could drive into any big fancy hotel anywhere in the country, and the parking guy would suddenly get Whoa! That was fun.

    And then we actually had a Dodge Grand Caravan that we got well over 255K miles out of. It handled decently.

    OTOH, I’ve driven a couple of those (Dodge Grand Caravans) lately, and I completely agree with you. They suck. BIG TIME.

  52. 52.

    Chyron HR

    June 26, 2020 at 8:20 am

    @sanjeevs:

    MikePenceShakingHead.gif

  53. 53.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 26, 2020 at 8:21 am

    @prufrock:

    Huh. Maybe he’s thinking if he leaves early, Pence can pardon him. I think there are still state charges in NY, right?

  54. 54.

    CarolDuhart2

    June 26, 2020 at 8:25 am

    Just bought an endorsed spendier version of face shields.  Hope they come quickly, before Thursday and before I must make a specific appointment for the doctor’s office. I bought them (and will be wearing a mask too) when I realized that I was nervous about going into a doctor’s office building for both an exam and blood tests.

    While I liked the virtual dr’s appointment, there are some things like skin issues and blood tests, that require actually going in an office and having someone actually look at the actual person.  BTW, when will we have what our pets would have, and have mobile medical clinics?  It would be more convenient, and probably less likely to transmit disease.  One pet at a time, and one patient at a time, with the option of 911 and a direct trip to the hospital if there’s more wrong with you.  Cats get all of the convenience…

  55. 55.

    PsiFighter37

    June 26, 2020 at 8:28 am

    Fox News poll has Biden up by 1 in Texas. If we can turn Texas into a true purple state this year, that would be huge for us – and the death knell for the GOP winning nationally again, if we can start winning that state consistently.

  56. 56.

    Soprano2

    June 26, 2020 at 8:30 am

    I don’t want Trump to drop out. I want him beaten, badly beaten, in humiliating fashion, beaten so badly that there is no question that he lost. I want him crushed. I want his total repudiation by American voters. I didn’t know I could hate someone so much until Trump. I hated George W., but this surpasses even that.

    I’m trying not to be complacent, because complacency is our enemy, but when I see these state polls with Biden so far ahead (if I remember correctly, further ahead of Trump than Clinton ever was) it makes my  heart feel good. If it’s close in Texas, Trump is in big trouble.

  57. 57.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 26, 2020 at 8:35 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    I’ve had a dentist and mammogram appointment, and those places took lots of precautions. I worry too but chances are they’ll look after you.

    Are you leaving the house while the ducts are cleaned? We had to leave for 1.5 hours on Wednesday while someone worked here. We drove to a park and walked, but it was a  long time to kill when nothing is open.

  58. 58.

    NotMax

    June 26, 2020 at 8:43 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor

    a dentist and mammogram appointment

    Now that’s a full service facility!

    ;)

  59. 59.

    CarolDuhart2

    June 26, 2020 at 8:45 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:  Dorothy, I am leaving the house- and probably even if there wasn’t covid, I don’t need to be around any dust they may kick up during the process.   There’s a bench right outside the main entrance of the building-and I hope my wifi coverage is good enough for a couple of hours.  So many things I may have to put off until it’s safe enough to have someone in for more than a couple of hours, but I don’t need to have repeated infections either.  I still have to have my ceiling fans cleaned, a spot in my bathroom finally plastered over, another spot in my bathroom the same, a moldy board under the sink replaced-and I’d like to have these things all done in one day-which is hard during quarantine=(where can I go?)

  60. 60.

    Just One More Canuck

    June 26, 2020 at 8:54 am

    @SectionH: Windsor is stopping production of the caravan. They were supposed to lose the third shift (1500 workers) in July, but that was pre-Covid. They’ve started up the plant again but I don’t think you’ll see any more Caravans out of there

  61. 61.

    Suzanne

    June 26, 2020 at 9:19 am

    Everybody see Nooners’ column today about how Trump sucks and “everyone kind of knows”?

    Took you long enough to figure that shit out. I “just kind of knew” for, uh, some time now,

  62. 62.

    Jeffro

    June 26, 2020 at 9:27 am

    @Bruce K: Tucker’s 2024 campaign, in a nutshell: “I’ll be a smarter, less grifty trumpov…all the same doubling and tripling down that you’ve come to know and love, though!”

    BLECH.

  63. 63.

    Mark's Bubbie

    June 26, 2020 at 9:28 am

    @Suzanne: She couldn’t resist a shot at Biden, though… I wonder how she’ll vote.

  64. 64.

    Jeffro

    June 26, 2020 at 9:29 am

    @JPL: YEOWCH!

    That’s gotta sting.  =)

  65. 65.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 26, 2020 at 9:39 am

    @NotMax:

    a dentist and mammogram appointment

    Now that’s a full service facility!

    Open wide!!

  66. 66.

    SFAW

    June 26, 2020 at 9:45 am

    According to TPM, the Murderer-in-Chief said (re: COVID-19) to the Stupidest Man on TV, last night: “So we’ve done a lot and we’re very proud of it and we had the best until this artificial problem ‘cause I call it an artificial problem.
    “We had to turn off our country to save millions of lives and now we’ve turned it back on,” he continued. “And it’s coming back much faster than anybody thought possible.”
    He apparently also said that his administration has saved a “tremendous number of lives,”

    It’s uncharitable of me to even think this, never mind say it, but: I hope he dies an exceedingly painful, drawn-out death.

    What’s that, 1000 Ave Marias and 1000 Pater nosters?

  67. 67.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 26, 2020 at 9:48 am

    Really loved The Chicks’ new song and powerful video. I appreciate their recalling the names of the fallen.   Between them and Taylor Swift, it’s good to see a few Country musicians standing up during the current racial crisis.

  68. 68.

    TomatoQueen

    June 26, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @SectionH: I had a ’91 Veeger, after-market rigged for a wheelchair passenger (folding ramp, tie-downs). When purchased it had 78K miles. Thus followed a lengthy history of outrage over the cost of repairs, terror in high winds, and then the day when it became impossible to get the correct…windshield wipers. When I junked the thing, it felt as if a great weight had been lifted.

  69. 69.

    Ohio Mom

    June 26, 2020 at 9:53 am

    CarolDuhart2: I’ve been to several doctors appointments — at three different UC Health faciities and an opthamologist — and I felt as safe as I do cocooned in my house. Like you, I am considered high risk.

    ALL the rules are carefully observed, masks, distancing, cleaning, etc. Nobody but patients allowed in the building, temperature taken at the door, masks provided for anyone rude enough to show up without one. No more magazines to thumb through while waiting either.

    Now the dentist, she’ll have to find someone else to help her pay off her student loans.

  70. 70.

    Quiltingfool

    June 26, 2020 at 10:21 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I’m thinking a 2×4 upside his head…gratuitously, of course.

    Disclaimer:  I don’t think I could ever smack someone with anything. I have never hit anybody in my life (I’m a big woman, I think people look at my size and assume I could put a hurt on them, so no one has ever tried to hit me, or, I’ve just been really lucky).  Here lately, though, I’ve been fantasizing about a big ol’ can of whoop ass being opened on certain people.  Doesn’t speak well of me, but, here we are.

  71. 71.

    catclub

    June 26, 2020 at 10:41 am

    @Punchy: In only swing states, of course.

     

    most of the key swing states now have Democratic Governors, and had GOP governors in 2016. FL and GA excepted, but those are stretch swing states.

  72. 72.

    J R in WV

    June 26, 2020 at 11:43 am

    Maybe Trump will drop out late… like mid-October…? That would work for me! Talk about disarray!!! What WOULD Cucker Tarlson say then?

  73. 73.

    Matt McIrvin

    June 26, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    @J R in WV: There’s a time window where if something happens to Trump, we’re in danger of Mike Pence getting elected/reelected just on a wave of relief that he’s not Trump, and all the never-Trumpers and such coming home, before anyone can really judge Pence on his own actions. Finally, a real adult President and we don’t have to hold our noses and vote for Biden! He doesn’t have to do anything, just stand there and look silver-haired and gravitudinous, like Warren G. Harding.

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