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… New Jersey man:

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… ‘Honest (deluded) small businesswoman’:

A vendor at the Biketoberfest in Daytona Beach, Florida, revved up controversy last week by selling hats featuring Nazi symbols and imagery, the Daytona Beach News-Journal reported…

The Biketoberfest is a massive annual biker rally in the city that sees participants numbering in the hundreds of thousands…

“It’s absolutely disgusting to see a vendor selling Nazi and SS gear, but it’s even worse that the only reason they would do so is because people are actually buying it,” said visitor Jonathan Davis, who took photos of the items and shared them over Facebook, sparking the outrage, according to the News-Journal…

I wondered about that quote, too. Per local site AskFlager.com:

… As shown in the picture [at the link], the hats were being sold alongside Trump hats. But they were not an endorsement of white supremacy, says Jenny. She wanted patrons to see them as a tribute to the World War II veterans who defeated Nazi Germany...

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  1. 1.

    HumboldtBlue

    he wanted patrons to see them as a tribute to the World War II veterans who defeated Nazi Germany.

    I certainly did nazi see that coming.

  2. 2.

    dmsilev

    She wanted patrons to see them as a tribute to the World War II veterans who defeated Nazi Germany…

    So they should be burned or otherwise defiled, just like the MAGAhats?

    I guess the real question is does she actually think anyone believes that supposed explanation?

  3. 3.

    James E Powell

    She wanted patrons to see them as a tribute to the World War II veterans who defeated Nazi Germany…

    Similarly, the confederate flags that one sees all over the south are tributes to the Union Army veterans who defeated the treasonous slave owners’ army.

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    Also,

    Furthermore, not all of her merchandise contains Nazi imagery.

    Look, she’s only partially making money off Nazi merch, that’s ok right?

  5. 5.

    dmsilev

    @James E Powell: After the Union took Richmond, Lincoln had a band play ‘Dixie’, basically on the grounds that it was spoils of war, so I suppose there’s some precedent.

  9. 9.

    West of the Rockies

    OT, but any SoCal late-night Juicers recall the LA Palma Pie Shop?  I see it closed in ’16.  Part of its big chicken sign is now in a museum.  My childhood memory is that they had damn good chicken sandwiches.  We’d swing by a corner liquor store on the way home and our parents would get a 12-cent comic book and a 5-cent box of candy for each of my three sisters and me.  Thanks for letting me reminisce.

  10. 10.

    NotMax

    Just got around to watching season 12, episode 8 of Archer. Beautifully provided a dignified exit to the late Jessica Walter’s character Mallory.

  13. 13.

    JaySinWa

    At first I thought you were going to call out Betty Cracker with this post.

    I thought this was a recycled story. And yes it is; https://www.truthorfiction.com/a-florida-woman-has-been-accused-of-driving-a-motorized-shopping-cart-through-target-drinking-wine-eating-sushi-and-cinnamon-rolls

    Three versions of the screenshot were shared to meme aggregator iFunny.co: one on June 20 2018, one on March 7 2019, and one on March 26 2019. All three retained the timestamp and date, but the two from 2019 featured the unrelated “Atlanta, GA” mugshot.

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    @West of the Rockies

    Yup yup. Plenty of us switched over to what were considered second tier choices, still at a nickel. There was a run on Walnettos and Jujubes at the corner candy store for quite a while.

    ;)

  15. 15.

    NotMax

    @NotMax

    Oh, and also those bizarre miniature wax soda bottles filled with colored sugar water. They were among the very last to succumb to price inflation. IIRC they shot up to 7¢.

  16. 16.

    mrmoshpotato

    Apparently there are Nazis further down the post, but, seriously, sushi and cinnamon rolls?!

    How fucking wasted was Floriduh woman?

  19. 19.

    trollhattan

    This is my ideal date, seriously. Wine, Target sushi and a Rascal, imagine the possibilities. {Call me!}

  20. 20.

    Alison Rose

    But they were not an endorsement of white supremacy, says Jenny. She wanted patrons to see them as a tribute to the World War II veterans who defeated Nazi Germany...

    Sure, Jan.

  21. 21.

    mrmoshpotato

    She wanted patrons to see them as a tribute to the World War II veterans who defeated Nazi Germany…

    Fuck the what?  How about hats with Captain America punching Hitler?

  22. 22.

    JAFD

    In a somewhat more serious vein (insert vampire joke here),
    njspotlight.com/2021/10/nj-governors-race-election-2021-democrats-big-voter-advantage-major-registra…
    is a pretty good summary of the last quarter-century of NJ politics. Good news, maybe even inspiring, with notably rare exceptions…
    “Dan Cassino, a professor of government and politics at Fairleigh Dickinson University and director of the FDU Poll, said … “Another factor in the Democrats’ favor has been a shift in demographics due to those moving out of and into New Jersey.”
    “The people who are leaving are disproportionately upper middle-income, white, and older, and the people coming in are disproportionately more educated, less white and younger,” Cassino continued. “That means that, on balance, New Jersey is exporting a lot of Republicans to Florida, while importing a lot of Democrats from Brooklyn. Over time, those trends build up.””
    Our apologies to Ms. Cracker.
    In other news, early voting in NJ starts later today. Pres. Obama and Gov. Murphy will be having a rally in Weequahic* Park this afternoon
    Have great weekend, everyone!

    *Pronounced as if a duck collective**

    **ie. ‘We quack’

  23. 23.

    mrmoshpotato

    @NotMax: Oh stop it.  The flavors totally don’t compliment each other. ?

    ETA – and I don’t even want to know what wine she was gulping…

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    @CaseyL: You mean if someone found a way to market shit on a shingle, people would go into business to make a buck off it?

    /s

  37. 37.

    sab

    @prostratedragon: I remember those. There were the bubble gum cigarettes, and then there were the candy mint ones with bright red tips as if they were lit. We used to get them at Halloween.

    I also remember Unicef boxes at Halloween. I think they gave them to us at school to collect for Halloween. In Florida. My times have changed.

  39. 39.

    sab

    I grew up in Daytona Beach, and I remember when the local newspaper tracked them as they came down the coast, so that decent people could lock up their daughters

    ETA The same paper also tracked the Kennedy yacht on its way to Palm Beach. But that was with approval.

  43. 43.

    JWR

    @NotMax: Have you heard about MeTV+ yet? It bills itself as an overflow for MeTV. Pretty good stuff, but I couldn’t see a way to search back to find out what was just on. They ran a great Little Rascals, (with Mr. Hood and his cold soup), but once that particular timeslot, or day, was gone, it was gone, and the schedule listings moved to 12:00AM Saturday. Maybe worth a look.

  44. 44.

    Origuy

    I remember in grade school we had a vending machine that dispensed Coke in small (6oz?) paper cups for a nickel. The coolest thing was that after you drank the Coke you put the cup upside down on the floor and stomped on it. If you did it right, you got a very loud noise.

  46. 46.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    “It’s absolutely disgusting to see a vendor selling Nazi and SS gear, but it’s even worse that the only reason they would do so is because people are actually buying it,”

    Yet another instance in economic anxiety

  48. 48.

    raven

    Bikers been wearing that shit since forever

    The Iron Cross began to show up as a biker symbol in the mid 1960’s. Since so many of the World War II generation associated the symbol with the enemy, Adolf Hitler, the younger generation found the perfect tool to show their rebellion. There was a shock value and a reaction they got out of the older citizens by proudly displaying something that was tied to the “enemy.” There was also a supply of the real insignias as many fathers and uncles had brought them home after plundering them in Europe during the war.

    Many bikers are veterans and veterans make up a very large percentage of outlaw bikers. The Iron Cross has many close cousins in other western militaries such as the French Croix de Guerre or the British Victoria Cross. The Iron cross began to be further embraced by bikers and to stand for things like honor, bravery and loyalty. This is much in keeping with the original meaning of the Iron Cross and the other military crosses shown below.

  49. 49.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @raven:

    She wasn’t selling iron cross shit. It’s swastikas and SS lightning bolts. I don’t remember old-school bikers wearing those.

  51. 51.

    BC in Illinois

    @Origuy:

    I remember in grade school we had a vending machine that dispensed Coke in small (6oz?) paper cups for a nickel.

    In the 1960’s, we had one of those at our high school (Wheaton MD). I don’t recall the price, but what I do remember is  that –especially in summer school — there would be such a demand that the machine would run out of paper cups on Wednesday or Thursday. So someone would pay for the Coke, no cup would appear, and the poor person would watch as the machine dispensed the drink, directly down the drain. When that happened, we would all warn the next people not to use the machine.

    Just kidding. When the machine ran out of cups, we would wait on the other side of the hallway, silent and casually natural-looking, and wait for the next poor sap. No one was ever warned.

  52. 52.

    PhaedrusOnBass

    Re: the first meme.

    I wish it would die. The story may be correct (or not), but the mug shots are Becky Lynch of the WWE, taken as part of a wrestling story in early 2019. She doesn’t deserve to be linked to the story.

  54. 54.

    Geminid

    A pithy post from @Ragnarok Lobster early this morning:

      Doom posting is voter suppression.

  56. 56.

    lowtechcyclist

    @NotMax: ​
     

    Oh, and also those bizarre miniature wax soda bottles filled with colored sugar water.

    I remember those. Even as a kid, I never understood their appeal. You’d taste the wax as much as the stuff you were drinking out of the wax bottles, and there was barely enough in there to be worth the trouble.

  59. 59.

    Matt

    She wanted patrons to see them as a tribute to the World War II veterans who defeated Nazi Germany

    The “tribute” part is when ten sensible Americans get together and kick every tooth out of the swastika-wearing MAGAt’s mouth.

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