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President Gray Davis

by John Cole|  October 9, 200510:49 am| 27 Comments

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Bush’s poll numbers, according to this poll, are going even LOWER:

President Bush’s job approval rating has fallen to his lowest rating ever. 37 percent now approve of the job he is doing as president, while 58 percent disapprove. Those in his own party are still overwhelmingly positive about his performance (nearly 80 percent approve), but the president receives little support from either Democrats or Independents. And while views of President Bush have lately not changed much among Republicans or Democrats, his approval rating among Independents has dropped 11 points since just last month, from 40 percent to 29 percent now.

No doubt the Mier’s nomination is what finally launched these numbers below 40%.

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  1. 1.

    Stormy70

    October 9, 2005 at 11:10 am

    CBS?! Sure, I’ll buy that for a dollar.

  2. 2.

    Doug

    October 9, 2005 at 11:21 am

    Wahoo! Dubya’s going bipolar with his poll numbers. I suspect he had the highest approval ratings ever, or close to it, post-9/11 while these approval numbers have to be close to the cellar for any President.

    Basically, if you haven’t drunk the Kool-Aid, you think he’s doing a crummy job.

  3. 3.

    Rome Again

    October 9, 2005 at 11:37 am

    CBS?! Sure, I’ll buy that for a dollar.

    Yes, it seems that there are now two different poll results. Republican pundits are stating on television that Bush’s numbers are going up, not down… and Stormy buys that of course.

    The fact that I can read scathing words on a site like Free Republic obviously means Bush’s numbers are still soaring. Right… what flavor are you and those pundits drinking Stormy? Must be rather potent stuff.

  4. 4.

    Zifnab

    October 9, 2005 at 11:43 am

    I know the Miers decision has rocketed my opinion of Bush up from “evil minion of a corrupt corporate shadow government empire” to “incompetant leader unable to please even his own party when the chips are down and all the cards are on the table.” That’s an improvement, btw.

    Still, going up from 37% is hardly a sign of welcoming approval from the general public. More likely, you’re just polling people who haven’t recently been too deeply offended. Tell me when the counter-polls start acrewing gaps outside the 5%-7% range and we’ll start talking about who to believe. For now, rock bottom and almost rock bottom don’t make alot of difference to me.

  5. 5.

    JoeTX

    October 9, 2005 at 12:05 pm

    Approval ratings + 70%

  6. 6.

    jobiuspublius

    October 9, 2005 at 12:23 pm

    You see, when you hide too many salami, or whatever it’s called, their collective odor eventually brings you down.

  7. 7.

    DougJ

    October 9, 2005 at 12:24 pm

    Taket this with a grain of salt. CBS and AP-Ipsos have tended to be in the lower range on Bush approval ratings all along. That’s not to say they’re inaccurate but 37% in the CBS poll is not the same as 37% would be in, say, the Gallup poll. Not to say that I trust the Gallup poll — I don’t — but Gallup tends to have higher approval ratings for presidents.

    I think the most reliable poll is probably Survey USA. The robopolls seem to be more accurate and Survey USA has no detectable ideological bias (Rasmussen is good, too, but they lean Republican).

  8. 8.

    Slide

    October 9, 2005 at 1:02 pm

    BUSH APPROVAL/DISAPPROVAL

    CBS Poll: 37/58
    AP Poll: 39/58
    Zogby: 43/57
    Newsweek: 40/53

    AVERAGE: 40/57

    Take your pick Stormy. Oh, and just to rub it in, Clinton when he left office was over 60% in approval.

  9. 9.

    Rome Again

    October 9, 2005 at 1:23 pm

    Approval ratings + 70%

    JoeTx seems to think that this nation is comprised only of Republicans, how strange.

  10. 10.

    Slide

    October 9, 2005 at 1:37 pm

    Even more troubling for the worst POTUS ever is a new ABC poll on his supposed strong point: war on terror:

    More from ABC, a new poll on confidence in the Bush/Republican “government”‘s ability to respond to a disaster:

    In another sign of eroding public trust in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, confidence in the federal government’s ability to respond to a terrorist attack unleashing nuclear or radioactive materials has fallen sharply in the hurricane’s aftermath.
    …
    Overall, 52 percent in this ABC News poll do express confidence in the government’s ability to respond effectively to a nuclear or radiological terrorist attack‚ but that’s fallen from 78 percent in late August, likely a result of the troubled hurricane response.

    A 25 point drop in less than one month? That’s massive. Polls like these don’t drop that significantly in that short a period of time without some major realignment going on in the public’s psyche.

    Woooo Nelly. The man is going down faster than a ten dollar hooker.
    ABC Poll

  11. 11.

    RSA

    October 9, 2005 at 2:30 pm

    Republicans can always take a page from their “analysis” showing that the poverty level at this point in Bush’s presidency is lower than at the comparable point in Clinton’s presidency: Bush’s average approval rating over his two terms is probably still above 60%. Great news!

  12. 12.

    ppGaz

    October 9, 2005 at 2:38 pm

    The man is going down faster than a ten dollar hooker.

    And where can you find one of those when you need one???

  13. 13.

    Jon H

    October 9, 2005 at 3:04 pm

    Regarding the “approval among Republicans” number, I wonder how many people have started telling the pollster they’re independents, rather than Republicans.

  14. 14.

    Slide

    October 9, 2005 at 3:58 pm

    Jon H said:

    Regarding the “approval among Republicans” number, I wonder how many people have started telling the pollster they’re independents, rather than Republicans.

    Actually you have a very good point there. It is an issue amongst pollsters as to whether to adjust for the ratio of republicans/democrats in their sample to reflect known registrations or to see the ratio in their polling sample as part of the fluctuating mood of the country.. Gallup does not make such an adjustment while most of the other pollsters do. A rather esoteric polling issue perhaps but something to keep in mind when looking at approval of self described Republicans.

  15. 15.

    Zifnab

    October 9, 2005 at 4:46 pm

    I do have to wonder at that. I know alot of people who vote Republican on the basis that “at least the guy in office won’t be a Democrat”, but I wonder how far that will fly. In Texas, we’ve got Kinky Fredman running as an Independent for governor, and I can see a number of other states moving towards non-partisan politicians because they don’t like the guys in their own party, but they can’t stand the party of the opposition.

    I wonder how many people would vote Independent these days if given a respectable, non-Red/Blue alternative.

  16. 16.

    KC

    October 9, 2005 at 6:31 pm

    President Gray Davis–that’s awesome.

  17. 17.

    Otto Man

    October 9, 2005 at 9:32 pm

    CBS?! Sure, I’ll buy that for a dollar.

    Right, it’s CBS’s fault. Somehow they threw their poll and the polls of all their competitors, which show similar results.

    They can have Stormy’s idol worship when they pry it from her cold dead hands.

  18. 18.

    Otto Man

    October 9, 2005 at 9:40 pm

    I think the most reliable poll is probably Survey USA. The robopolls seem to be more accurate and Survey USA has no detectable ideological bias (Rasmussen is good, too, but they lean Republican).

    I’m not sold on SurveyUSA completely, they tend to skew GOP as well. But here’s their latest state-by-state series from a few weeks ago. They give him a national average of 41%, and again, this is pre-Miers.

  19. 19.

    SeesThroughIt

    October 9, 2005 at 10:24 pm

    I wonder how many people would vote Independent these days if given a respectable, non-Red/Blue alternative.

    I know I would. Political parties suck, and people who pledge their lives to a party are, by and large, incredibly stupid.

  20. 20.

    DougJ

    October 9, 2005 at 10:42 pm

    Political parties suck,

    Just because the Republican party at the federal level has been taken over by lunatics and con artists does not mean political parties suck. It’s very important to focus on the real culprits — DeLay, Rove, Cheney — and not throw out the baby with the bath water. Try looking through the Senate sometime. You’ll find 75% of them — on both sides of the aisle — are the kind of people we should be proud to have representing us.

    And what’s people’s big problem with Democratic party of today? I don’t agree with them on a lot of things — gun control, free trade (both parties are bad about that), campaign finance “reform” — but they’re basically reasonble and sane. And once Rove and DeLay and the rest are gone, the Republican party will go back, I hope, to being reasonble and sane.

    We have a crappy media and an uninformed electorate. We’ve got better politicans than we deserve, for the most part.

  21. 21.

    DougJ

    October 9, 2005 at 10:44 pm

    Otto Man, Survey USA and Rasumussen called the last election more accurately than other pollsters. There’s been some weirdness with Rasmussen relative to other pollsters with approval ratings, but I don’t see any problem with Survey USA.

    One thing that I find interesting on Rasmussen is that they give strong approval and strong disapproval as options. Bush’s strong disapproval is way up the past few months.

  22. 22.

    Kimmitt

    October 9, 2005 at 10:56 pm

    And once Rove and DeLay and the rest are gone, the Republican party will go back, I hope, to being reasonble and sane.

    I can’t at all agree; the 11th Commandment is a recipe for relentless insanity.

  23. 23.

    Otto Man

    October 9, 2005 at 11:55 pm

    DougJ — My mistake. I was thinking Strategic Vision. Started with an S.

  24. 24.

    Zifnab

    October 10, 2005 at 1:44 am

    I mean, the shit the Republicans are doing today is the same shit that the Southern Democrats were doing fifty years ago – which isn’t too much of a surprise since they’re effectively the same party.

    That said, I think there’s two ways our national government can head from here. Either A) we take this whole corruption thing and run with it as Republicans and Democrats both go at it trying to out-dirty each other. Or B) the McCain-Feingold and similar reforms grow some teeth and get on the books for real, forcing corruption out of the system the hard way.

    As it stands, replacing Red with Blue is not going to change the level of corruption anymore. That was the promise DeLay made back in ’94 with his Contract With America and look where it lead us. Democrats are going to be out for blood the moment they get their powerbase back, and I suspect it will be a truly bad day to be a Republican if they lose their monopoly on Congress in ’06. Too much bad blood. There’s no going home again now. Not for another generation at least.

    As much as I’m pro-liberal, there are numerous merits to conservatism. I don’t look forward to seeing the backlash.

  25. 25.

    Oh,Boy.Stupidity!

    October 10, 2005 at 1:53 am

    Or B) the McCain-Feingold and similar reforms grow some teeth and get on the books for real, forcing corruption out of the system the hard way.

    You have no idea what you’re talking about. McCain-Feingold only furthers corruption because it makes it that much more difficult for those who aren’t already wealthy to run for office.

  26. 26.

    Kimmitt

    October 10, 2005 at 3:52 am

    Too much bad blood. There’s no going home again now. Not for another generation at least.

    Nah, the Dems are too used to having their asses handed to them; the Repubs’ll dictate the agenda from the minority.

  27. 27.

    Tractarian

    October 10, 2005 at 12:02 pm

    You have no idea what you’re talking about. McCain-Feingold only furthers corruption because it makes it that much more difficult for those who aren’t already wealthy to run for office.

    How exactly does that “further corruption”? It seems to me that already-wealthy politicians (like Bloomberg, Corzine, Schwarzenegger) are less likely to be corrupt. McCain-Feingold made it harder for politicans who rely on soft money, who, in my view, are more susceptible to corruption.

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