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by @heymistermix.com|  September 22, 20116:56 am| 86 Comments

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After thirty-one years, REM is calling it quits. Here’s an open thread.

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  1. 1.

    newsouthzach

    September 22, 2011 at 7:09 am

    I thought they had called it quits 10 years ago.

    Thank God for a distraction from the Troy Davis thing. I’m on the east coast of Aus and was following it at work this morning. Sickening.

    This is not an invitation for more execution commentary, by the way — I’ve personally seen and heard quite enough for now!

  2. 2.

    cleek

    September 22, 2011 at 7:23 am

    they’ll be back. give em 5 years before the urge to cash-in on a reunion tour is too strong to resist.

  3. 3.

    TheMightyTrowel

    September 22, 2011 at 7:29 am

    @cleek: 5 years? Call me a cynic, but I always see these sorts of ostentatious band break ups as the first step in an 18 month marketing tactic: get news, release final CD, get extra interviews to publicize CD because band is ‘broken up’ and members are ‘free agents’, publically reconcile and go on tour supporting CD (and forthcoming greatest hits album which the record company decided to release after the break up got so much publicity).

  4. 4.

    amk

    September 22, 2011 at 7:33 am

    teh hypocritical irony – assange pissed off that his bio was released without his approval.

    bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/uk-15014133

    Now you know how hillary felt, julian.

    wtf happened to his so-called expose’ on the banksters ?

  5. 5.

    cleek

    September 22, 2011 at 7:39 am

    FYI, One Million Moms Need To STFU

  6. 6.

    Pococurante

    September 22, 2011 at 7:40 am

    I saw The Who’s farewell tour. Three of them actually.

  7. 7.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 7:44 am

    They don’t need the money. Stipe and Mills keep cribs here but they are all over and Peter lives in Seattle. They have contributed greatly to Athens and they’ll always be a part of it one way or another. There is nothing for them to “reconcile” .

  8. 8.

    schlemizel - was Alwhite

    September 22, 2011 at 7:45 am

    gocomics is down at the moment but here is a link to one of the usually non-political comics that gives me some hope the scales are falling off more peoples eyes:
    newadventuresofqueenvictoria.com/

    Rick Perry & “job creationism”

  9. 9.

    Comrade Javamanphil

    September 22, 2011 at 7:47 am

    @cleek: I think they are awesome. Ben and Jerry’s can’t keep the flavor in stock as it is. A bunch of uptight scolds with no sense of humor providing further free marketing is just icing on the cake. (Or cream in the churn I suppose.)

  10. 10.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 7:49 am

    @TheMightyTrowel: Uh, the retrospective is already done but you just jam on:

    MIKE

    “During our last tour, and while making Collapse Into Now and putting together this greatest hits retrospective, we started asking ourselves, ‘what next’? Working through our music and memories from over three decades was a hell of a journey. We realized that these songs seemed to draw a natural line under the last 31 years of our working together.

    “We have always been a band in the truest sense of the word. Brothers who truly love, and respect, each other. We feel kind of like pioneers in this–there’s no disharmony here, no falling-outs, no lawyers squaring-off. We’ve made this decision together, amicably and with each other’s best interests at heart. The time just feels right.”

  11. 11.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 7:51 am

    “R.E.M. re-signed with Warner Bros. Records in 1996 for a reported $80 million, the largest recording contract in history at that point.”

    They also retain control over their work.

  12. 12.

    soonergrunt

    September 22, 2011 at 7:54 am

    REM was still together? They haven’t been musically relevant since the Clinton administration. Great music back in the day.

  13. 13.

    Linda Featheringill

    September 22, 2011 at 8:01 am

    Good morning, all.

    I watched this documentary [twice, actually] and have a better understanding of the current culture and the reactionary stance of about half of the adults in the country.

    documentaryheaven.com/high-anxieties-the-mathematics-of-chaos/

    It’s about an hour long. And free.

  14. 14.

    soonergrunt

    September 22, 2011 at 8:05 am

    @cleek: One million moms–front organization for the American Family Association–wingtard umbrella group.

  15. 15.

    cleek

    September 22, 2011 at 8:10 am

    @soonergrunt:
    ah.

    ijits.

  16. 16.

    Mino

    September 22, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Cooking junkies will be on crack with the line up for Iron Chef this fall.

  17. 17.

    cleek

    September 22, 2011 at 8:19 am

    @Mino:
    Today’s secret ingredient is… crack!

    that’d be a good one.

    “Mmmm. I really like what Mario Batali has done with his soup. The rich, smoky flavor of the crack really comes through! Makes me want to … break something! Aahhh!”

  18. 18.

    schlemizel - was Alwhite

    September 22, 2011 at 8:30 am

    I’m a cooking junkie but the charm of Iron Chef wore off pretty fast for me. I thought the Japanese take was entertaining because of the ‘exotic’ nature of seeing food through a different culture. More camp than cooking.

    I am sort of hooked on “Chopped” now because of the bizarre ingredients. But that is wearing down too as every week there has to be one cancer survivor/single parent/bereaved relative/set-upon outsider contestant and one inflamed asshole contestant. I’d rather they focused on the food & the preparation than on manufactured drama.

  19. 19.

    Bean Tooth

    September 22, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Watching the video of one of the best songs of arguably REM’s best album and I was struck that each time the camera went to the crowd, not a single person was singing. Were they wondering what this hot new REM track was?

    Also, get off my lawn.

  20. 20.

    Jamey

    September 22, 2011 at 8:32 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): Modern Jazz Fusion, like Spinal Tap, Mk.II

  21. 21.

    Mino

    September 22, 2011 at 8:32 am

    @cleek: Will we be having a pool on the outcome, I wonder. Seem to be a lot of foodies on this blog.

  22. 22.

    jon

    September 22, 2011 at 8:36 am

    I finally saw REM on the Monster tour, it was a great stadium show, I like the old stuff better, not a huge fan of what I didn’t bother to seek out in the new stuff, and I look forward to Stipe and Natalie Merchant working together or whatever solo stuff emerges before the inevitable reunions and half-band tours and such.

    I think that covered every–Oh yeah: the A side of Reckoning is the best half of a record album ever.

    Thanks for all the great music, gentlemen.

  23. 23.

    jeffreyw

    September 22, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Did someone mention soup?

  24. 24.

    jibeaux

    September 22, 2011 at 8:41 am

    I didn’t know REM was still together.

    And, for heaven’s sakes, that’s not even a proper petulant foot-stampin’ boycott — one flavor? Lemme let you in on a little secret o’ capitalism, humorless moms, if you buy Chubby Hubby instead of Schweddy Balls, you are not punishing Ben & Jerry’s.

    I assume these women are the same reason the fantastic website/juggernaut ravelry.com (tagline: where my stitches at?) has in its FAQ a little pre-emptive response to objections over the tagline “where my stitches at.”

  25. 25.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 22, 2011 at 8:46 am

    @Linda Featheringill:

    No time to watch it now (already late leaving for work) but that looks really interesting. In fact, the whole catalogue looks fascinating. I’ve bookmarked the site and will be returning to it frequently, I imagine. Thanks so much for the link and the recommendation.

  26. 26.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 8:50 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Hey, I was in no way giving you a hard time last night. I just didn’t know what there was to say.

  27. 27.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 8:52 am

    The first piece written about REM

  28. 28.

    Mino

    September 22, 2011 at 8:53 am

    @jeffreyw: Yum. What’s that called? Besides soup, that is.

    I’m coming late to all this cooking stuff, so the novelty hasn’t worn off.

  29. 29.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 22, 2011 at 8:59 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    Thanks, Raven. No probs.

  30. 30.

    jeffreyw

    September 22, 2011 at 9:05 am

    @Mino: It’s a meatball soup, Italian-ish.

  31. 31.

    cleek

    September 22, 2011 at 9:10 am

    re/ REM side projects…

    Peter Buck has been doing side projects pretty much forever.

    he’s been part of Robyn Hitchcock’s latest backing band: The Venus Three, with Bill Rieflin (REM, Ministry, KFMDM, RevCo, etc.) and Scott McCaughey (Minus Five). they put on a great show, and it’s the best chance you’re likely to get to see Peter Buck outside of a giant stadium show. or, it was until yesterday.

    Robyn & Peter, playing “8 Miles High”

  32. 32.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:12 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): I used to see Stipe at the Globe all of the time in the late 80’s, early 90’s. Just the thought of them no longer being a band is kind of sad to me…it’s making me feel old(er). LOL.

  33. 33.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:14 am

    The first time I saw REM was at Leigon Field at UGA in 85 and, when I heard them, I thought it was the Byrds!

  34. 34.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:15 am

    @cleek: Cleek, I’m so glad to have your musical IQ here so I don’t have to rely on wikipedia or obscure underground blogazines to keep me current on these matters. I knew Peter was busy with sides, but did not know the name.

    Thanks for the pic!

  35. 35.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:16 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): I missed that 85 show. Bet it was great.

    Saw Pearl Jam at Legion Field in 90. Just before the explosion into something big.

    How is the Georgia Theater rehab job, if I may ask?

  36. 36.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:17 am

    @Foxhunter: I was a regular at the Globe in those days. He and his family come to the White Tiger a good bit. It was “Thrasher” groceries when you were here most likely.

  37. 37.

    jon

    September 22, 2011 at 9:19 am

    I know Ernie and Bert couldn’t possibly have had a sexual orientation, but after watching this I wonder how the Sesame Street public relations flacks are going to be able to say the same thing about muppets in the future.

  38. 38.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:19 am

    @cleek: Damn. I thought that was going to be an audio file!

  39. 39.

    Grumpy Code Monkey

    September 22, 2011 at 9:20 am

    @soonergrunt:

    I’ll hold up “Accelerate” as a counterexample to that statement.

  40. 40.

    piratedan

    September 22, 2011 at 9:24 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): I was fortunate to catch them when they were still a bar band playing the mid atlantic university bar scene in the early 80’s (along with groups like the B-52’s, Pylon, the db’s and Arrogance) and sometimes I think that Radio Free Europe is still their best song.

  41. 41.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:25 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): Ah, Trasher’s. Wasn’t that near the hospital?

  42. 42.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:26 am

    @Foxhunter: That Pearl Jam show was when Vetter dove in the crowd! I hadn’t seen that since Nugent did it in 1970 at Kickapoo Creek.

    The theater is really nice, the owner of the Tiger is running the diner on the roof. We’ve been amazed at the crowds up there in the mid-day heat. The theater seems smaller even though the capacity is the same. The area between the bars is closer to the stage and there are no seats. There are two balconies and the views of the stage are great. It is really pretty, funky looking but modern facilities. If you ever used the bathrooms you know what I mean. No smoking really help too.

  43. 43.

    Mino

    September 22, 2011 at 9:27 am

    @jeffreyw: Thanks for the link. That’s the same woman with the fall show on Cooking Channel, right?
    I’ve been living on cold soups this summer with the temps we’ve been logging. Guess it’s about time to think about hot ones.

  44. 44.

    Stefan

    September 22, 2011 at 9:27 am

    @piratedan:

    Radio Free Europe IS their best song.

  45. 45.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:28 am

    @Foxhunter: Yea, it’s on the next block from my house. Here’s a painting of it, my critters are the two in the door.

    eta

    This neighborhood was a but sketchy when we bought 12 years ago but we’ve had a great influx of folks with kids and it’s really nice. Allens is gone but with the Navy School being replaced by the med school it’s only going to get better.

  46. 46.

    p.a.

    September 22, 2011 at 9:32 am

    I’ll never forget the first time I heard ‘Boxcars’ on the radio. I was a huge fan up to ‘Shiny Happy People’, after that, lost interest. Which is more a comment on me than on REM. I’m certainly in tune with the group’s politics, but more important to me is that they were truly a band concerned with treating their fans well. Not a lot of ‘Big-Timing’ that I know of from those guys.

  47. 47.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:33 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): The Vedder stage dives are always a hit. Here’s a little snippet I found online about that show (in 92, not 90…my bad memory):

    04/16/92 – Legion Field, University of Georgia: Athens, GA
    attendance: 4,000
    support act: Follow For Now
    set: Oceans, Even Flow, Wash, Porch, Rockin’ in the Free World, Alive (setlist incomplete)
    notes: This show was nearly canceled due to Ed’s voice problems. Ed tells the crowd they will have to help him with the singing because his voice is shot. The show opens with a long version of ‘Oceans.’ However, he performs like a maniac, hurling himself in the crowd and walking across people’s hands to the back soundboard (Legion Field is an outdoor venue) during ‘Porch’, surfing back to the stage. The set closes with ‘Alive’ with members of Follow For Now (a local Athens band similar to Living Colour) joining PJ, An epic performance with the crowd in a frenzy for the entire show.

    I’ll have to check out the White Tiger next time I’m in Athens! And the redone Georgia Theater, which did have some of the worst heads around. Forgot about that.

  48. 48.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:35 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): I saw that a couple of grads re-opened ‘Allens’ in a different location, but it will never be the same (at least when I was living there). When a $4.00 sub from Steverino’s would not do for lunch, we’d hoof it over to Normaltown for the burgers. That place had character.

  49. 49.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:36 am

    @Foxhunter:
    Yea, I had no idea who they were but I knew rock and roll when it slapped me. 92 huh, that’s about the beginning of the end for me. I started my doc program and was bartending at Loco’s.

    Ask for me at the Tiger, I keep a jar of treats for the doggies on the counter and bug them daily.

  50. 50.

    Linnaeus

    September 22, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Looks like the morning DJ on the indie station here is going to be playing R.E.M. throughout his shift. It’s “So. Central Rain” right now.

  51. 51.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:38 am

    @Foxhunter: It’s over by the Y on Hawthorne. There is a new place called the Normal Bar that the trendy folks go to. I used to love the Flyers at Allens and even John Barry.

  52. 52.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:40 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): Good times. I slung beer at Uptown Lounge, my roommate was a bouncer.

    I miss those days.

  53. 53.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Goin down to Allen’s for a twenty five cent beer. Mike at 1;23

  54. 54.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:43 am

    @Foxhunter: Did you play in the Sunday bar league at Lake Herrick? Ya’ll had a team if memory serves.

  55. 55.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:47 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred): I didn’t play in that league. I was involved in too many other intramurals to participate. Plus, I was an avid golfer at the time, so most of my free time was at the course.

    We did have a group that participated, though. A few of them were on the rugby squad, too.

  56. 56.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:49 am

    @Foxhunter: The Blind Pigs. . .social member since 85, the old bolts on the spine kept me off the pitch!

  57. 57.

    Foxhunter

    September 22, 2011 at 9:51 am

    @Raven (formerly stuckinred):

    The Blind Pigs

    Awesome! I love it. Will have to stop by the WT next time I’m kicking around Athens with the fam-damily.

  58. 58.

    Cacti

    September 22, 2011 at 9:53 am

    REM was still together?

  59. 59.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    September 22, 2011 at 9:55 am

    @Foxhunter: CU

  60. 60.

    schlemizel - was Alwhite

    September 22, 2011 at 9:58 am

    look, I really tried to avoid it but we have nearly 60 posts & nobody has said the obvious yet –
    Is the the end of the band as we know it?

  61. 61.

    jeffreyw

    September 22, 2011 at 10:01 am

    @Mino: I don’t know if she has a show but she could pull one off pretty well.

  62. 62.

    Linnaeus

    September 22, 2011 at 10:06 am

    @schlemizel – was Alwhite:

    I feel fine.

  63. 63.

    cleek

    September 22, 2011 at 10:11 am

    @p.a.:
    yeah, i dropped them after the “Shiny Happy People” album (Out Of Time), too. that album was when i realized that REM and i had diverged – to their great dismay, i’m sure.

  64. 64.

    rachel

    September 22, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Has someone pranked Boston.com, or is this for real? Mass. GOP urges Harvard to end Elizabeth Warren’s salary

  65. 65.

    Ash Can

    September 22, 2011 at 10:25 am

    test

  66. 66.

    Ash Can

    September 22, 2011 at 10:31 am

    OK, that was weird. I posted a comment yesterday morning that got caught in the mod filter, and was unable to post anything else after that. Now that said comment has finally been released, I can post again. Has anyone else had that happen? I’ve always been able to post subsequent comments with one stuck in the spam filter.

    I guess FYWP is saying FY back.

  67. 67.

    Sentient Puddle

    September 22, 2011 at 10:32 am

    @Grumpy Code Monkey: For my money, Collapse Into Now was ultimately better. But between those two albums, I don’t see how anyone can reasonably say that the band was total crap for the last decade or so.

  68. 68.

    cleek

    September 22, 2011 at 10:37 am

    @Ash Can:

    Has anyone else had that happen?

    yep. a couple of times.

    on my FYWP blog, there are multiple levels of filters. the keyword filter that usually catches people on “sewcializm” just sends people to moderation. but there’s a level above that (Akismet) which will block your IP address if you annoy it.

    i just assume BJ has something similar.

  69. 69.

    burnspbesq

    September 22, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Two of the minor players in the Galleon insider-trading case were sentenced yesterday. Zvi Goffer got ten years, while Winifred Jiau, who was tried before a different judge, got four and a half plus a $3.2 million forfeiture order.

    According to Bloomberg, Jiau apologized to her golden retriever for her misdeeds.

  70. 70.

    Ash Can

    September 22, 2011 at 10:48 am

    @cleek: Hmm. Then I bet it was a word I used in my originally filtered post. In trying to echo a quote from Idiocracy, I used the not-nice word for gays that the original quote used. That might have been what banished me.

  71. 71.

    burnspbesq

    September 22, 2011 at 10:49 am

    @rachel:

    It’s real. It’s also a crock of shit. I know a little bit about the laws regarding 501(c)(3) orgs, and the notion that Harvard is engaging in prohibited political activity by paying Warren a salary for teaching (and she is continuing to teach while running for the Senate) is completely ridiculous.

  72. 72.

    Ash Can

    September 22, 2011 at 10:57 am

    @amk:

    assange pissed off that his bio was released without his approval.

    LOL!

  73. 73.

    burnspbesq

    September 22, 2011 at 11:11 am

    @amk:

    Schadenfreudelicious. I especially like the part about Assange being unable to repay the advance when he tried to back out of the project because he had signed it over to his lawyers. A somewhat unusual consequence of failing to use a condom.

  74. 74.

    oldpunk23

    September 22, 2011 at 11:33 am

    I saw REM playing in a bar in Athens the night I moved there. Thought they sucked. Then I saw them a couple more times in town, and borrowed a copy of “Chronic Town”. Loved them ever until they hit it big, just didn’t care for much they did after “Green”. Really down-to-earth guys, I used to see Pete Buck at the 40 Watt Club and met Bill Berry once when my girlfriend was taking an Anthropology class with his wife. Doesn’t seem like it was 25 years ago…

  75. 75.

    Judas Escargot

    September 22, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    @amk:

    teh hypocritical irony – assange pissed off that his bio was released without his approval.

    (Insert loud Bill-Hicks-style cackle here).

  76. 76.

    schlemizel - was Alwhite

    September 22, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    @Ash Can:

    Yes – I did the same thing, probably using the same word (phag) but was able to post again after that.

    But that word list must be a real mine field since I have seen people use various slurs here on occasion and – I assume anyway – not get quarantined.

    Might be an interesting experiment to see what words get the ax

  77. 77.

    Onkel Fritze

    September 22, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    For the record: ‘Collapse into Now’, Accelerate’ and ‘Around the Sun’ were all great albums, and anybody who claims they were irrelevant can just suck on my Schweddy Balls.

  78. 78.

    Cris (without an H)

    September 22, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    @Onkel Fritze: Schweddy Balls

    for reals

  79. 79.

    burnspbesq

    September 22, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    @Onkel Fritze:

    anybody who claims they were irrelevant can just suck on my Schweddy Balls.

    I think I’ll stick to New York Super Fudge Chunk if it’s all the same to you.

  80. 80.

    cleek

    September 22, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Dave Matthews’ Magic Brownies is/are pretty good, too.

  81. 81.

    Paula

    September 22, 2011 at 2:27 pm

    An entire R.E.M. thread w/o a single mention of Automatic for the People?

    The shame.

  82. 82.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    September 22, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    beguine motherfuckers, beguine.

    sorry.

    rem, yeah, ok.

    they were great, and i probably never would have heard jangle pop if it weren’t for them, but, i don’t know that the collective had much left, though i am sure they will as individuals.

  83. 83.

    Death Panel Truck

    September 22, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    Couldn’t care less. Arrogant assholes who regarded the Beatles as elevator music, oblivious to the obvious irony. Without John, Paul, George and Ringo, the members of REM would have spent their lives flipping burgers.

  84. 84.

    HW3

    September 22, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    Every time I hear about REM I always think of this song by fIREHOSE by Mike Watt : “For the Singer of REM” youtube.com/watch?v=dA21dyNY3V4

    It seems to match my feelings that REM always took themselves way too seriously, but unfortunately everyone else did as well. I’m sure REM will be getting back together for a tour before you know it.

  85. 85.

    burnspbesq

    September 22, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    @Death Panel Truck:

    Arrogant assholes who regarded the Beatles as elevator music,

    Been in an elevator lately? How about a supermarket? The Beatles have been Muzak since the 1970s.

  86. 86.

    danimal

    September 22, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    @Paula: Automatic is a true classic. Still sounds good today.

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