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The Democrats in a Nutshell

by John Cole|  August 6, 20041:01 pm| 33 Comments

This post is in: Democratic Stupidity

It appears clear that the Democratic response to the Swift Boat commercial is a three-pronged front, consisting of personal attacks, legal attacks, and flat-out lies. I touched on this last night in a late-night post, but much of this is worth further discussion.

For the record, I don’t know what to believe about the commercial. In the past, I have been willing to give Kerry the benefit of the doubt, and I will continue to do so until the story shakes out. However, I find the Democratic attempts to silence these men despicable. They may be wrong, they may be lying, but these men served out country just like John Kerry, and far more so than former President Clinton, so their side deserves to be checked, and at the very least, heard..

The personal attacks have been well-documented, as have been the legal challenges. However, what has not been challenged, at least other than here, is the big, fat, whopper of a lie that the Democrats are currently peddling. It is clear the talking points have been handed out- let’s review them.

The talking points, first appeared in the Miami Herald:

The Kerry campaign has denounced the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, saying none of the men in the ad served on the boat that Kerry commanded. The leader of the group, retired Adm. Roy Hoffmann, said none of the 13 veterans in the commercial served on Kerry’s boat but rather were in other swiftboats within 50 yards of Kerry’s.

Media Matters, the wholly owned subsidiarity of the DNC, funded by George Soros, has been quick to pass out the talking points:

Despite the ad’s claim, members of the group did not serve with Senator John Kerry on his swift boat in Vietnam. Not only did the programs ignore that fact, but FOX News Channel hosts Sean Hannity and Alan Colmes went so far as to call them Kerry’s “fellow crewmates.”

You see where this is going, don’t you? They were not on the actual boat with Kerry, so therefore they have no idea who the man is or what he was like during the time in question. Except, of course, this defies reality. As I stated last night, you almost have to admire the brazenness and the audacity of those willing to make this statement, because it is so misleading and stupid that surely they must be afraid of being caught.

To the facts:

1.) Kerry, according to his own biography, served with the following UNITS:

– November 17, 1968- Upon completion of his training, Kerry reports for duty to Coastal Squadron 1, Coastal Division 14, Cam Ranh Bay, South Vietnam.

– December 6, 1968- Kerry moved to Coastal Division 11 at An Thoi on Phu Quoc Island

– December 13, 1968- Kerry moved to Coastal Division 13, Cam Ranh Bay

Right away, you should begin to understand the absurdity of the talking points. While the Kerry campaign may hope that everyone thinks Kerry’s Swiftboat experience was much like the long, solo journey portrayed in Apocalypse Now, this is not the case. Kerry was stationed with his crew and all the other men in his repsective units at their bases.

2.) A decription of Cam Ranh Bay:

While the concentration at Cam Ranh Bay of Market Time headquarters and forces during the summer of 1967, the demand for base support became extraordinary. Accordingly, the Naval Support Activity Saigon, Detachment Cam Ranh Bay, was redesignated the Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay, a more autonomous and self sufficient status. A greater allocation of resources and support forces to the shore installation resulted in an improved ability to cope with the buildup of combat units. In time, the Cam Ranh Bay facility accomplished major vessel repair and dispensed a greater variety of supply items to the anti-infiltration task force. In addition the naval contingent at the Joint Service Ammunition Depot issued ammunition to the coastal surveillance, river patrol and mobile riverine forces as well as to the Seventh Fleet?s gunfire support destroyers and landing ships. Seabee Maintenance unit 302 provided public works assistance to the many dispersed Naval Support Activity, Saigon detachments.

As a vital logistic complex, Cam Ranh Bay continued to function long after the Navy?s combat forces withdrew from South Vietnam as part of the Vietnamization of the war.

A description of An Thoi on Phu Quoc Island:

Of all the Navy?s bases in South Vietnam, An Thoi, on the southern tip of Phu Quoc Island in the Gulf of Siam, was the most isolated. Almost 1000 miles from Subic Bay, it taxed the seventh Fleet?s mobile logistic support force during the Vietnam War. Still naval leaders recognized early the strategic value of the site: from there the naval forces could readily interdict sea infiltration of communist men and supplies from Cambodia. Another favorable consideration was the availability to American units of real estate near the Vietnamese Navy?s existing compound.

These were bases. There was billeting (naval vessels, billet barges, on-shore billets, etc.), supply depots, docks for repair, etc. In other words, John Kerry was not sitting on a boat with only five crewmen for the entirety of his stay. Instead, he was staying with his entire UNIT.

3.) A description of a typical Swift Boat Unit:

The Division is now comprised of twenty-three officers and one hundred and twenty enlisted men divided into boat crews. A crew is comprised of one officer and five enlisted men who are trained as a team so that if the need arises one man can step in and do the other’s job. The crews must be constantly alert 24 hours a day for they never know when the VC will strike.

4.) A description of a combat mission:

During the early hours of 1 March, four SWIFTS of Coastal Division 14 and several RVN Coastal patrol craft located an enemy steel-hulled ship attempting to infiltrate guns and ammunition to the VC. In what has been since described as “the greatest sea engagement of the Vietnamese conflict” PCFs 46, 47, 48 and 43 destroyed the 120 foot enemy trawler. The murderous .50 caliber machine gun and 81mm mortar fire enabled victory after a 15-minute battle. As in all victories some prices must be paid; two men aboard PCF-48 were wounded. ENFN Galliher suffered a minor leg wound and GMG2 Ulmer, a shoulder wound. today Galliher is back on the job and Ulmer recuperating in Japan. We all give Thanks that it was not more serious and wish Ulmer a speedy recovery. All personnel involved have been recommended to receive medals for their heroic actions.

5.) Descriptions of combat from Kerry’s OWN website:

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity in action while serving with Coastal Division ELEVEN engaged in armed conflict with Viet Cong insurgents in An Xuyen Province, Republic of Vietnam, on 28 February 1969. Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as Officer in Charge of Patrol Craft Fast 94 and Officer in Tactical Command of a three-boat mission.

Lieutenant (junior grade) Kerry was serving as Officer in Charge of Patrol Craft Fast 94, one of five boats conducting a SEA Lords operation in the Bay Hap River.

Is this enough? Still don’t believe me? Go watch the Kerry videos– count the boats.

In short, it is an absurd notion that because these men were not on the same exact boat they did not serve with Kerry. They fought together, slept together, bled together, ate together, and drank together. Pretending otherwise is the mother of all whoppers, and serves only to diminish Kerry’s credibility.

As I stated yesterday, I am shocked that they would attempt a lie this big. After all, while Kerry was running around the Mekong Delta torching villages in the latter part of 1968 (and that is his own testimony, and not just unfounded some slur I made up), the core of his supporters were also busy burning things- albeit ROTC buildings, draft cards, and bras. It is not surprising that they should have no understanding of the military.

The idea that they can lie to the rest of us like this is obscene. Mind you- none of this means that the story of the Swift Boat Vets for Truth is accurate. Nor does it diminish Kerry’s service- this was not a stay at the Hilton. It does, however, shed some light on the Kerry campaign and their surrogates.

*** Update ***

Via Brian Carnell, a transcript of last night’s Hannity and Colmes. Susan Estrich, who never met a Massachussetts liberal she did not like, uses the talking points against Swift Boat Veteran for Truth Van Odell:

ESTRICH: I have to interrupt you for one second. I think…

ODELL: Another boat…

ESTRICH: Sir — Sir, I think it’s my turn to ask you a few questions. You weren’t a crew mate of Senator Kerry’s, were you?

ODELL: I was not.

ESTRICH: You were not a crewmate of his. Right. All of the men on his boat are supporting his bid for the presidency, aren’t they?

ODELL: No, that’s not true.

ESTRICH: One is deceased, but all the rest are…

ODELL: Steve Gardener (ph) is not supporting him at all.

ESTRICH: But as I understand it all of the men on his boat…

ODELL: When I was in Vietnam — when I was in Vietnam, the people there on his boat crew did not have the same take on what he is like now.

ESTRICH: So all but one who were on his boat are supporting him. Is that right? And you weren’t on his boat. Is that right?

ODELL: I was in close proximity. I was right behind his boat.

ESTRICH: You were half a football field away; is that right?

ODELL: Oh, no, it’s closer than that. Sometimes we laid alongside many times. We were close together.

The press ‘Kerrying’ the water for Kerry/Edwards. You really had to see the clip to fully appreciate Estrich’s vicious tone.

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Cognitive Dissonance

by John Cole|  August 6, 200411:12 am| 23 Comments

This post is in: Democratic Stupidity

Sometimes I wonder what Jeralynn is thinking:

The scenes of Bush continuing to read to children in a classroom after being told by aides of the WTC attacks were some of the most compelling in Fahrenheit 9/11. What was Bush thinking? Did he not understand? Did he think it would all go away? Was he really at such a loss as to what to do that he decided to sit there until someone gave him instructions?

Why do people praise his handling of the terror war post-9/11? Bush chose to go after a target that was not an immediate threat to the U.S., at the cost of failing to stop Al Qaeda, which his administration now tells us is about to launch an even bigger attack against us. What has he accomplished? His Attorney General put some young wannabes from Buffalo and Oregon in jail, but dropped the ball on the real terrorists. Osama’s at large (unless he’s in hiding for a timed perp walk before the election.) The security restrictions we now live with on a constant basis resemble those of a foreign dictatorship, not a free democracy.

What should he have done? What could he have done? Do you honestly believe hecould have stopped one ounce of blood from being spilled? Saved one life? Do you think if he had freaked out and run out of the classroom, we would now have Osama bin Laden in custody? Do you know for sue what information Bush was given, and why he chose to finish the story rather than run out?

If John Kerry had been President, and he left the room when you say he should have, would there be fewer casualties at the World Trade Center? At the Pentagon? at The crash in PA? Would we now have Osama in custody?

I am so sick and tired of this slur from Michael Moore and I hate how the Democrats think this is a reasonable criticism of the President.

And this line is just absurd: “Bush chose to go after a target that was not an immediate threat to the U.S.”

Three questions:

What was the date of the WTC and Pentagon attacks?

On what date did operations in Afghanistan begin?

On what date did operations in Iraq begin?

Next canard, please.

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Alabama- Making the Rest of the Country Safe

by John Cole|  August 6, 200410:59 am| 7 Comments

This post is in: General Stupidity

Thank God for Alabama. I know I will sleep easier now that they have taken care of the great plastic phallus menace, and I think we can all sleep a bit easier now that this has been taken care of:

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A 74-year-old murderer became the oldest U.S. inmate put to death in decades after courts and the governor refused to stop his execution.

James Barney Hubbard died by injection Thursday at Holman Prison near Atmore.

“The legal execution of James B. Hubbard was carried out according to the laws of the State of Alabama,” Corrections Department spokesman Steve Hayes told CBS Radio News. “His official time of death is 6:36 p.m. Central Time.”

I am against the death penalty in general, but there is no doubt this man was aworthy candidate. Regardless, it seems that someone else had already given Hubbard the death penalty:

He was recently diagnosed with dementia; a psychologist concluded his condition may cause confusion and interfere with his ability to understand legal procedures, according to papers his lawyers filed in the appeals court.

Hubbard also claims he is suffering from hepatitis, diverticulitis, hypertension and acute back pain.

The man had one foot in the grave, the other on a banana peel, and Alabama probably spent a hundred thousand dollars in the legal fight to execute him. Oh well.

At any rate, I am sure glad Alabama is leading the way in keeping us all safe. Now, if they could just kindly ask their United States Senator to keep his damned mouth shut.

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Florida

by John Cole|  August 6, 200410:41 am| 6 Comments

This post is in: Politics

Just what the hell is going on in Florida?

When poll workers could not find Kelly Pierce’s name on the registration rolls during the primary here in March, they told him to take advantage of a new election rule that allowed him to cast his vote using a provisional ballot.

The rule is intended to prevent one of the major problems experienced in Florida during the 2000 presidential election, when scores of voters, especially minority voters, were turned away at the polls over registration questions that could not be resolved quickly.

So Mr. Pierce, who had voted regularly since 1989, filled out his paper ballot. Election administrators then proceeded to throw it out, determining that poll workers had Mr. Pierce file it in the wrong precinct.

He was hardly alone. Of the 5,914 provisional ballots cast in the Chicago primary, 5,498 were disqualified, mostly on technical grounds.

I do not believe that all of the voting woes in Florida are some large conspiracy, with Jeb Bush as the mastermind. At the same time, what the hell is going on down there? What is so damned complicated that they can not get it right?

And while we are at it, can someone give me a good reason why felons can not vote? I understand the logic behind refusing them the franchise while incarcerated, but the logic of returning them to society as rehabilitated (*cough, cough*) individuals but refusing to allow them to live as full citizens makes absolutely no sense to me, and it seems to me that this is the one of the major problems with the Florida voting system.

*** UPDATE ***

I understand that the story I linked to occurred in Chicago- the word Chicago is only used 75 times throughout the piece. I was trying to ask a broader question- why does it seem like things are so screwed up in Florida regarding elections? I guess I wasn’t very clear (which should come as no surprise). At any rate, check google news- there have been umpteen stories on Florida election problems in the past week.

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Just Out of Curiosity

by John Cole|  August 6, 200410:35 am| 3 Comments

This post is in: Politics

Am I the only one who remembers when 5.5% unemployment was generally regarded as a good thing?

The unemployment rate dropped to 5.5%, and it is spun as bad news…

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Big Media Matt

by John Cole|  August 6, 200410:33 am| 1 Comment

This post is in: Media

Matt Yglesias gets a mention in a Paul Krugman op-ed. And I remember when he just started his website and I was one of the first promoting him…

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Second Thoughts

by John Cole|  August 6, 200410:23 am| 8 Comments

This post is in: Politics

It seems that one of the Swift Boat Veterans For Truth has now changed his mind:

But yesterday, a key figure in the anti-Kerry campaign, Kerry’s former commanding officer, backed off one of the key contentions. Lieutenant Commander George Elliott said in an interview that he had made a ”terrible mistake” in signing an affidavit that suggests Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star — one of the main allegations in the book. The affidavit was given to The Boston Globe by the anti-Kerry group to justify assertions in their ad and book.

Elliott is quoted as saying that Kerry ”lied about what occurred in Vietnam . . . for example, in connection with his Silver Star, I was never informed that he had simply shot a wounded, fleeing Viet Cong in the back.”

The statement refers to an episode in which Kerry killed a Viet Cong soldier who had been carrying a rocket launcher, part of a chain of events that formed the basis of his Silver Star. Over time, some Kerry critics have questioned whether the soldier posed a danger to Kerry’s crew. Crew members have said Kerry’s actions saved their lives.

Yesterday, reached at his home, Elliott said he regretted signing the affidavit and said he still thinks Kerry deserved the Silver Star.

”I still don’t think he shot the guy in the back,” Elliott said. ”It was a terrible mistake probably for me to sign the affidavit with those words. I’m the one in trouble here.”

Elliott said he was no under personal or political pressure to sign the statement, but he did feel ”time pressure” from those involved in the book. ”That’s no excuse,” Elliott said. ”I knew it was wrong . . . In a hurry I signed it and faxed it back. That was a mistake.”

The affidavit also contradicted earlier statements by Elliott, who came to Boston during Kerry’s 1996 Senate campaign to defend Kerry on similar charges, saying that Kerry acted properly and deserved the Silver Star.

Which just goes to show that the Kerry response of lawyering up was even dumber than I asserted yesterday. Let the ads air, let these people face scrutiny. If what they are telling is the truth, we will find out. If they are lying- well, see above.

*** Update ***

He retracts his retraction:

The following statement from Swift Boat Veterans for Truth concerns an article appearing in morning edition of the BOSTON GLOBE, written by GLOBE reporter and author of the official Kerry-Edwards campaign book, Mike Kranish.

“Captain George Elliott describes an article appearing in today

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