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The Shrillness Spreads

by Tim F|  April 5, 20074:58 pm| 148 Comments

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Joe Klein, tomorrow:

In the upcoming issue of Time magazine, out Friday, columnist Joe Klein considers what he calls the Bush administration’s “epic collapse.” He concludes with a statement that may make some wonder if he is hinting that the president ought to be impeached.

Klein claims, in referring to the president, that he has “tried to be respectful of the man and the office” but now he recognizes that the “defining sins” of his administration “are congenital: they’re part of his personality. They’re not likely to change. And it is increasingly difficult to imagine yet another two years of slow bleed with a leader so clearly unfit to lead.”

Two questions.

First, why do does it matter what Joe Klein thinks? I understand him less as a barometer than as a self-important nitwit who is frequently wrong. If anything I’d take this to mean that Bush could defy the Constitution and serve another term.

Second, why so difficult? The idiocy lasted six years already. Even with subpoenas, poll numbers that rival gonorrhea and a party desperate to escape his foul cloud, Bush won’t leave unless Congress impeaches him. The Dems won’t do that, so we might as well prepare for two years of boxing Homer.

As I see it the only hope for change is if Republicans get sick of splash damage from the president’s screwups and initiate impeachment hearings themselves.

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  1. 1.

    MBunge

    April 5, 2007 at 5:40 pm

    Klein’s comments are only important in that they serve as both a marker and a signal of elite opinion in the political establishment. Those elites degenerated into a mass of quivering bunny rabits after the combination of 9/11 and the DC sniper. Klein’s words demonstrate that they’re FINALLY recovering from that and they’re a signal to the rest of the elite that it’s okay to start talking about the President in these terms.

    Mike

  2. 2.

    srv

    April 5, 2007 at 5:42 pm

    To think it’s been 14 years since I started opposing this moron. I will revel in every minute of this non-stop meltdown. I will laugh as every party member is ejected and crushed by this non-stop train wreck. He is the Chernobyl of the Republican Party and the Hyperpower. His failures will glow for generations.

    Two years is not enough for me.

  3. 3.

    Doug H.

    April 5, 2007 at 5:46 pm

    I wouldn’t be so hasty as to rule out the Dems starting impeachment hearings. Pelosi, and especially Reid, aren’t for instant gratification. Their MO so far has been to patiently and deliberately lay out the groundwork first, and then use that to move to the next step. IMO, impeachment’s coming, its just a matter of eroding Bush’s last legs of support (such as ‘beltway insiders’ like Joke Line) first.

  4. 4.

    Zifnab

    April 5, 2007 at 6:01 pm

    First, why do does it matter what Joe Klein thinks?

    Cheers! I’ll drink to that.

  5. 5.

    Jake

    April 5, 2007 at 6:02 pm

    “tried to be respectful of the man and the office” but now he recognizes that the “defining sins” of his administration “are congenital: they’re part of his personality.

    Feh. Another poseur tries to copy John Cole.

    Even with subpoenas, poll numbers that rival gonorrhea

    Clap harder!

  6. 6.

    Moll Slanders

    April 5, 2007 at 6:09 pm

    As I see it the only hope for change is if Republicans get sick of splash damage from the president’s screwups and initiate impeachment hearings themselves.

    I’m afraid you’re right, Tim.

  7. 7.

    stickler

    April 5, 2007 at 6:16 pm

    If the Democrats have been trying to push Bush into ever-more-irrational behavior, they seem to have succeeded. The Sam Fox appointment is a giant, avoidable, and stupid middle finger to the Senate like I never imagined I’d see.

    Stupidity, overreach, arrogance, and incompetence are a mean combination. May the subpoenas fly far and true; may the impeachment(s) begin tomorrow.

  8. 8.

    ThymeZone

    April 5, 2007 at 6:22 pm

    Klein has suddenly realized that there is a bunch of material out there that makes him look like a Kool Aid junkie, and he is trying to put distance between himself and the joke presidency that he has enabled lo these several years.

    Klein is totally self serving. He’d make a good White House staff member. He can articulate any view, whether it has an ounce of truth or merit to it, or not. He’s a word whore.

  9. 9.

    ThymeZone

    April 5, 2007 at 6:23 pm

    His failures will glow for generations.

    Good line, well stated.

  10. 10.

    Pb

    April 5, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    I understand him less as a barometer than as a self-important nitwit who is frequently wrong.

    He’s all of the above–a barometer of self-important nitwittery and wrongness. Let’s see where this goes, if anywhere.

  11. 11.

    Kimmitt

    April 5, 2007 at 6:43 pm

    Klein is getting spanked on Swampland, bad, and I think it’s starting to show.

  12. 12.

    Dug Jay

    April 5, 2007 at 6:47 pm

    A good and rational discussion by a group that couldn’t successfully piss in barrel with a mere one inch distance between them and the barrel.

    ThymeZone basically has it right. This is an attempt by Klein to recover a little bit of ground with some of his former “fans.” Truly a wasted effort on his part.

  13. 13.

    Stooleo

    April 5, 2007 at 7:16 pm

    Bush is the millstone around the Republican Party’s neck, dragging them to the bottom. I wonder how long it will take before they realize this, and impeach his ass. My guess is the abyssal plain.

    http://curriculum.calstatela.edu/courses/builders/lessons/less/les5/abyss.html

  14. 14.

    Jake

    April 5, 2007 at 7:29 pm

    He’d make a good White House staff member.

    Or a campaign aide for John McCainiac.

    He’s a word whore.

    Best description evA.

    I’m getting a tad weary of all of these pundicks who suddenly sit up and shout “Oh my garwsh, George Bush is a horrible person.”

    I started lurking here during the latter days of John Cole’s epiphany and saw a process, even a struggle as he came to realize he’d been backing a stinker. Some days he sounds more pissed than the average librul.

    From other folks, not so much. There’s still a fair amount of bet-hedging and apologizing. (Klein tried to be respectful of the man, WHY?) I also have to wonder how much of this we’d see if the 06 elections had a slightly different outcome. Whores indeed.

  15. 15.

    mclaren

    April 5, 2007 at 7:45 pm

    It matters because Joe Klein is an asskissing suckup who would praise Pol Pot as “a leader with true vision” if Pol Pot were sitting in the Oval Office. Joe Klein has fellated the ignorant incompetent sociopaths in the White House for 6-plus years to the point where everyone realizes this clown makes a lucrative career of ennobling depravity.
    So when Joe Klein comes out and says he can’t take anymore…wow. That’s like Kruschev saying Stalin went too far.
    As for the claim that we can’t take 2 more years of this hell…hey! You people sneered and jeered at John Kerry when he warned you that a vote for the drunk-driving C student in the White House was a vote for “more of the same.”
    You wanted more of the same?
    You got it.
    More of the same, coming up!
    I think the next 2 years of living hell are CRUCIAL. This country full of no-neck ignorant religious fanatics needs to get its face rubbed in its own offal, like a recalcitrant puppy. The 51% of do-nothing know-nothing Rapture-loving fools who eagerly yanked the lever for the sociopath in the White House need to get a full taste of the consequences of their criminally negligent behavior.
    Who you vote for matters. When you behave like an idiot and fall for scams and lies and con jobs, and clap your hands raw applauding Swift Boat smears and cheer yourselves hoarse when sociopathic demagogues like Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh scream hate speech against everyone who stands up for the basic principles of the constitution of the United States of America, you need to get impaled with the brutal consequences of your own misdeeds. You need to hang there, screaming and twisting, in unbearable agony, for two more long years while crazed demagaogues murder your children in Iraq for no reason…while gas prices doar to $20 per galloon…while masked goons break down your neighbors’ doors and drag them away to secret torture chambers with black hoods over their heads. You need to watch official Fox News propaganda vomit lies over the airwaves until you lose control and hurl a brick through the TV set screaming in uncontrollable rage.
    People like John Cole need to learn the terrible of their folly. Democracy is a precious thing, and sociopathic demagaogues like Karl Rove abound, even in America, and if people like John Cole let them, psychopaths like Karl Rove will destroy democracy in a single generation and turn us into an incompetent police state run by corrupt thugs who can’t even evacuate survivors after a major flood.
    So enjoy it, former Republicans. You’re going to get 2 more unbearable years of it. New atrocities, new scandals, new lies…every day some gross incompetence will come to light and a new cadre of thugs will rush forward to smear anyone who denies the documented facts. Every day more innocent victims will be murdered or tortured, and new Joe Klein weasels will stand up and accept handsome salaries to ennoble depravity and demonstrate with impeccable logic that fraud is honor, mental disease is patriotism, hate is love, torture is kindness, censorship is freedom, and gross incompetence is sublime skill.
    Get used to it. Learn to like it. Embrace the suck, as our troops now say in Iraq.
    Then, after the next 2 intolerable year sof living hell crawl past one atrocity and one depravity and one monstrous sadistic lie at a time…think twice when you see a presidential debate.
    Don’t just listen to the Karl Roves of the world. Don’t believe the Swift Boaters just because they _look_ sincere.
    The big question everyone without partisan blinders on asks about Joe Klein today is:
    _Now _this a$$hole figures it out, after cheerleading these incompetent dunces for 6 years? Now??!?!? NOW??!!??!?
    The rest of us figured it out during the first debate with Al Gore back in 2000, when the drunk-driving C student couldn’t even name the countries in the middle east and snickered sneering gigles of contempt when Gore started running down the statistics about current problems in America with the snide jape, “Well, I don’t have a calculator.”
    Everyone with eyes and ears and common sense knew the drunk-driving C students was a sh*t-for-brains jerkoff back in late 2000.
    Maybe the next 2 years of living hell will teach the John Coles of the world to open their eyes and ears. Actually _look_ and _listen_ when you see a presidential debate. If you see an ignorant incompetent sociopath engaged in debate with a former Vice President you _really_ don’t like, PAY ATTENTION TO THE SOCIOPATH.

  16. 16.

    SPIIDERWEB™

    April 5, 2007 at 7:52 pm

    What “epic collapse.”?

    Yeah, the public is finally realizing what Bush is and what his atrocious policies have and are doing, but he’s still trucking as they say.

    Congress isn’t influencing nor containing the imbecile.

    I see nothing differently than I saw things a year ago. What am I missing here?

  17. 17.

    BadTux

    April 5, 2007 at 7:59 pm

    Exactly. The Deciderer is still decidering. Other than impeachment, which ain’t in the cards, he’s still gonna keep deciderin’. It’s like that illegal recess appointment he just made. Who’s gonna stop him? How many legions does Congress have? Yeah right…

  18. 18.

    grumpy realist

    April 5, 2007 at 8:10 pm

    What ever happened to the principled conservative politicians?

    When you find yourself rooting for Bob Barr as the voice of reason on the conservative side, you know something has definitely dropped out of the basket.

  19. 19.

    stickler

    April 5, 2007 at 8:15 pm

    Well, wait just a minute there, pardner:

    Who’s gonna stop him? How many legions does Congress have? Yeah right…

    Congress may not have many legions (or divisions, if we want to get our Stalin right). But Congress has a whole hell of a lot of subpoenas, and it’s plain as day that this Administration hasn’t got a clue in hell how to deal with Congressional oversight.

    If you were going to impeach this devious sonofabitch, you’d want to lay the foundation carefully, lay it deep, and lay it long. Lay out the bill of particulars so thoroughly that even a stupid hack like Huckleberry Graham could see the mendacity and illegality.

    Then send Huckleberry Graham up to the White House to have a Goldwater Moment with the Deciderer.

  20. 20.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 5, 2007 at 8:59 pm

    I think you’re all missing the Truth here: George W Bush is the Manchurian candidate.

    Do you think the Soviet Union — er, I mean the Russians — could be any more pleased with what this president has done to the United States? Is China unhappy? Are the North Koreans cowering in fear? This man was maneuvered into office by a coterie of undercover communists specifically for the purpose of doing everything Bush has done to bankrupt the country, destroy the military, use the Constitution for toilet paper, and turn the United States into a pariah. This isn’t incompetence or stupidity. It’s the result of a perfectly executed plan.

    The only thing I’m not sure of is whether Angela Lansbury is playing Rove or Cheney.

  21. 21.

    CaseyL

    April 5, 2007 at 9:36 pm

    Two of the soldiers who died today in Iraq died by friendly fire.

    One of them had just arrived in Iraq a few weeks ago.

    He was one of the thousands sent to Iraq without training.

    Bush will never suffer so much as a moment’s inconvenience for that. Cheney will never suffer so much as a moment’s inconvenience for that. Nor will any of the other architects of the war. They will get away with it all, and retire rich and safe.

    …and 20 years from now, some of them will be back. And, unless Americans get a lot smarter in the next 20 years than they were in the last, those fuckers will get elected again.

  22. 22.

    Doug H.

    April 5, 2007 at 9:43 pm

    What stickler said. If you’re gonna ITMF then you’d better make sure you do it so that only the die-hard 28 percenters will be left in his corner. You make sure you do it when he’s talking to the portrait of Ronald Reagan and Bob Gates is telling SAC not to take any phone calls from the President.

  23. 23.

    srv

    April 5, 2007 at 9:56 pm

    What ever happened to the principled conservative politicians?

    Like the Easter Bunny, they only existed in your dreams.

  24. 24.

    The Easter Bunny

    April 5, 2007 at 10:11 pm

    Like the Easter Bunny, they only existed in your dreams.

    Watch it, moonbat, or I’ll be a bad dream you can’t wake up from. Just ask the Canuckistanis.

  25. 25.

    Northman

    April 5, 2007 at 11:14 pm

    As I see it the only hope for change is if Republicans get sick of splash damage from the president’s screwups and initiate impeachment hearings themselves.

    Man, would that be fun to watch!

  26. 26.

    canuckistani

    April 5, 2007 at 11:55 pm

    Watch it, moonbat, or I’ll be a bad dream you can’t wake up from. Just ask the Canuckistanis.

    It’s true, we live in a wasteland of civil war between Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. With gay marriage.

  27. 27.

    stickler

    April 6, 2007 at 12:53 am

    Good grief, DougH:

    You make sure you do it when he’s talking to the portrait of Ronald Reagan and Bob Gates is telling SAC not to take any phone calls from the President.

    Not twenty years ago that sentence would have been laughable. And now we know, that it really happened. That Nixon was batshit crazy and so drunk (nine martinis in one session? How?) that he was non compos mentis when foreign leaders rang the Oval Office.

    I for one am waiting eagerly to find out just what insane crap is going on in this White House. Is the taping machine still hooked up? Or did Mr. Butterfield’s little revelation provoke its removal?

  28. 28.

    srv

    April 6, 2007 at 1:08 am

    Watch it, moonbat, or I’ll be a bad dream you can’t wake up from.

    I said Easter Bunny, not the Undead Easter Bunny.

  29. 29.

    Punchy

    April 6, 2007 at 8:05 am

    Did you guys know that AQ and Iraq were linked?

    No, this is not from 2003. or 2004. or 2005…2006.

    2007. April. Cheney said so. Again.

    Cheney really IS my dad. Never wrong. Ever. About anything. Ever. No matter what the counter evidence. Amazing.

  30. 30.

    jenniebee

    April 6, 2007 at 8:11 am

    From Josh Marshall last night:

    There’ve been a few hints that something fishy was up in the Minneapolis US Attorney’s office where 34-year old Rachel Paulose was sworn in to office last month in a lavish ‘investiture‘ ceremony some have called a ‘coronation’…

    Now there’s this just breaking this evening …

    It’s a major shakeup at the offices of new U.S. Attorney Rachel Paulose.

    Four of her top staff voluntarily demoted themselves Thursday, fed up with Paulose, who, after just months on the job, has earned a reputation for quoting Bible verses and dressing down underlings.

    Deputy U.S. Attorney John Marty is just one of the people dropping themselves in rank to simply a U.S. Attorney position. Also making the move are the heads of Paulose’s criminal and civil divisions and the top administrative officer.

    The move is intended to send a message to Washington – that 33-year-old Paulose is in over her head.

    As the article notes, before getting the plum US Attorney spot, Paulose was a special assistant to Alberto Gonzales and apparently big buds with none other than 5th amendment invoker Monica Goodling.

    But loyalty = competence, right?

  31. 31.

    Marcus Wellby

    April 6, 2007 at 8:28 am

    Klein has suddenly realized that there is a bunch of material out there that makes him look like a Kool Aid junkie, and he is trying to put distance between himself and the joke presidency that he has enabled lo these several years.

    I’d have to agree with that, but to be fair, also mix in a little of the following:

    It matters because Joe Klein is an asskissing suckup who would praise Pol Pot as “a leader with true vision” if Pol Pot were sitting in the Oval Office. Joe Klein has fellated the ignorant incompetent sociopaths in the White House for 6-plus years to the point where everyone realizes this clown makes a lucrative career of ennobling depravity.

    Klein, Matthews, Broder and all these other fucking morons who thought Bush was like John Wayne and Christ all rolled into one need to go, and go NOW. The GOP and Bush only got this far because the press is part of the problem — if not THE problem.

  32. 32.

    Walker

    April 6, 2007 at 8:46 am

    Did you guys know that AQ and Iraq were linked?

    No, this is not from 2003. or 2004. or 2005…2006.

    2007. April. Cheney said so. Again.

    And he got an epic smackdown by a declassified Pentagon report on the same day.

  33. 33.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 9:14 am

    Did you guys know that AQ and Iraq were linked?

    Yes, the world is bitter butter batter better without Saddam.

  34. 34.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 9:40 am

    Cheney said so. Again.

    But Cheney’s right, because

    interrogations of Saddam Hussein and two former aides “all confirmed” that Hussein’s regime was not directly cooperating with al-Qaeda before the U.S. invasion of Iraq

    and we know that they are completely untrustworthy and everything they said must have been lies. If they said there was no cooperation, then AQ and Iraq must have been working together as one.

    Who are you going to believe, a dead dictator who kept Iraq from the peace and prosperity it has achieved with the aid of the policies of the Bush administration, or the duly elected (well, for the second term, anyway) Vice President and former chief executive of Halliburton with which he has severed all ties? QED.

  35. 35.

    chopper

    April 6, 2007 at 9:40 am

    “i can’t believe it’s not better!”

  36. 36.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 9:43 am

    33-year-old Paulose is in over her head.

    That can’t be true. She studied under the Master, AG Gonsillies himself.

  37. 37.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 9:55 am

    Everyone with eyes and ears and common sense knew the drunk-driving C students was a sh*t-for-brains jerkoff back in late 2000.

    Yup!

  38. 38.

    Dave in ME

    April 6, 2007 at 10:07 am

    I think impeachment is coming, mainly because of the obstruction of justic arising from the purged prosecutor fiasco. Once the ball gets rolling, all the Republicans will jump on it like a lifeboat, so they can say next year during their campaigns that they “opposed” Bush. Bush is cancer to the Republican party at this point. Amazing it took 6 years to get to this point, but I guess having republicans running all congress helped conceal the crimes and ineptitude.

  39. 39.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 10:14 am

    OT – from WAPO

    The Justice Department is refusing to release hundreds of pages of additional documents related to the firings of eight U.S. attorneys, setting up a fresh clash with Capitol Hill in a controversy that continues to threaten Attorney General Alberto R. Gonzales’s hold on his position.

    Gee, I wonder WHY?

  40. 40.

    Zifnab

    April 6, 2007 at 10:15 am

    Meowgasm

    Yes, this is completely off topic.
    Still, it’s freak’n hilarious.

  41. 41.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 10:15 am

    Dang it, I think that’s a firewall link, sorry :(

    Title of article: Justice Department In New Fight Over Papers on Firings

  42. 42.

    mclaren

    April 6, 2007 at 10:39 am

    Sure, maybe the current administration is in the middle of an “epic collapse” — but, listen, there’s hope! Just over the horizon!
    The GOP base has got two fantastic dark horse candidates for ya!
    Just think to what heights America can aspire under these magnificent 2008 Republican Presidential candidates:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0407/3399.html

    and

    http://www.nysun.com/article/51783

    Happy days are here again…

  43. 43.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 10:49 am

    I understand him less as a barometer than as a self-important nitwit who is frequently wrong.

    The irony is rich that the same person (frequently wrong nitwit?) also wrote this

    If anything I’d take this to mean that Bush could defy the Constitution and serve another term.

    For starters, how has Bush “defied” the Constitution? Facts please

  44. 44.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 10:56 am

    Who are you going to believe, a dead dictator who kept Iraq from the peace and prosperity it has achieved with the aid of the policies of the Bush administration

    Ah yes, romanticizing the ‘benevolent’ leadership of Saddam.. no mention of his attempted genocide, murderous oppression, and sociopathic tendencies. Those descriptions are reserved for our drunken White House dictator

    Klein has fellated the ignorant incompetent sociopaths in the White House

  45. 45.

    Fe E

    April 6, 2007 at 10:56 am

    The GOP base has got two fantastic dark horse candidates for ya!
    Just think to what heights America can aspire under these magnificent 2008 Republican Presidential candidates:

    Dear God, I think the first link broke my brain–on the other hand, having a president who can crush the larynx of those who displease him using the power of the dark side of the force is intriguing at any rate!

    I know when I wanna get my swerve on, I just try to think of ol’ Newt….

    So maybe these guys are on to something.

  46. 46.

    Jake

    April 6, 2007 at 10:59 am

    That’s nice Dick, now take your shot gun and go hunt down Osama bin Laden. What’s that Dick? Saddam was Osama? And your proof is…? Oh, we never saw them in the same place at the same time.

    Mission Accomplished.

  47. 47.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 11:18 am

    For starters, how has Bush “defied” the Constitution? Facts please

    “We refer the honorable gentleman to answers previously given here multiple times, some time ago.”

    Lamest Troll Attempt ever, Darrell. You need some new material, buddy.

  48. 48.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 11:20 am

    From Josh Marshall last night:

    There’ve been a few hints that something fishy was up in the Minneapolis US Attorney’s office where 34-year old Rachel Paulose was sworn in to office last month in a lavish ‘investiture’ ceremony some have called a ‘coronation’…

    Except that the “lavish coronation” was a $225 ceremony, and the number of resignations were three, not four, two of which had already lined up jobs before Paulose’s appointment. Oh my.

    But hey, if the lie synchs with the leftwing narrative being pushed, then keep on parrotting it. Anything to strike back at our White House “sociopaths”.

  49. 49.

    The Easter Bunny

    April 6, 2007 at 11:27 am

    I said Easter Bunny, not the Undead Easter Bunny.

    I’m not undead, you liberal twit. You’re thinking of Santa, who got his fat ass blown up and was then resurrected as a disembodied head in a jar. Considering the lard-encrusted, cholesterol-choked state of his former body, I think they did him a favor, frankly.

    It’s true, we live in a wasteland of civil war between Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. With gay marriage.

    Nice try, leftard. Everyone knows that Santa and I, despite our personal animosities, have made common cause against the Canuckistani scourge. Blame the insurgents for the massive bombing, defoliation, and landmine campaign that we’ve undertaken against your country, not us. Don’t you like freedom, moonbat?

    Now go play tonsil hockey with your gay husband and quit feeling sorry for yourself.

  50. 50.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 11:28 am

    if the lie synchs with the leftwing narrative

    You really are losing your touch, pal.

    Paulose’s ceremony is the stuff of “left wing narrative?”

    Here’s left wing narrative:

    The history of the United States in the 20th Century, in terms of domestic policy, advances of rights, liberties and protections, was the history of progrssive thought and government. To the extent that America is part of the community of modern, liberal democracies, it owes that membership to liberal government.

    For fun, compare and contrast the great advances that can be credited to reactionary or conservative thought and government during the 20th century.

    Darrell, you go first. Take all the time you need, buddy.

    What are the great conservative ideas of the 20th century, and where are the examples of their success?

    You are about to hear the longest recording of chirping crickets ever played here ………….

  51. 51.

    srv

    April 6, 2007 at 11:45 am

    Ah yes, romanticizing the ‘benevolent’ leadership of Saddam.. no mention of his attempted genocide, murderous oppression, and sociopathic tendencies.

    That would be you, back when Saddam was really doing all that slaughtering. But we wouldn’t be such assholes to refer to it as romanticizing. But it is another fine example of your trademark hypocrisy.

  52. 52.

    Fe E

    April 6, 2007 at 11:46 am

    I think we have a new Darrel in the house–that link through his name is a pretty blunt hint.

    Becasue I just never got the feel that real Darrel had any sense of irony (sic) at all.

  53. 53.

    srv

    April 6, 2007 at 11:52 am

    have made common cause against the Canuckistani scourge. Blame the insurgents for the massive bombing, defoliation, and landmine campaign that we’ve undertaken against your country, not us. Don’t you like freedom, moonbat?

    You might as well be Undead, here’s your baby bunny after some proper training, comrade.

  54. 54.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 11:53 am

    What are the great conservative ideas of the 20th century, and where are the examples of their success?

    Good question…

  55. 55.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 11:55 am

    You might as well be Undead, here’s your baby bunny after some proper training, comrade.

    Wow, you really CAN find anything on the internets, can’t you?

  56. 56.

    Some Other Brian Guy

    April 6, 2007 at 12:06 pm

    Except that the “lavish coronation” was a $225 ceremony, and the number of resignations were three, not four, two of which had already lined up jobs before Paulose’s appointment. Oh my.

    She asked for free access to one of the St. Thomas law school buildings. Normally valued at $1500.

  57. 57.

    The Other Steve

    April 6, 2007 at 12:11 pm

    BTW, Tom Heffelfinger, who did hold the USA post up here in Minnesota was a pretty decent prosecutor. He handled a number of pretty important big cases without any major fuckups. Such as the Dru Sjodin murder trial, etc.

    The guy was respected as not being a partisan hack.

    This Paulose, quite the opposite. Nobody respects her, and she quite obviously is a partisan hack.

    Why do you favor the nomination of partisan hacks?

  58. 58.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 12:16 pm

    This Paulose, quite the opposite. Nobody respects her, and she quite obviously is a partisan hack.

    Coming from an extreme left partisan hack such as yourself, I’ll take that characterization of Paulose with a huge grain of salt.

  59. 59.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    Strnagley silent here, as the search continues for the Great Successful Conservative Ideas of the Twentieth Century.

    Where are you Darrell? Libary of Congress? Reading Lewis Mumford?

    You’re a good soldier.

  60. 60.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    Ah yes, romanticizing the ‘benevolent’ leadership of Saddam.. no mention of his attempted genocide, murderous oppression, and sociopathic tendencies.

    As best as I can recall, Darrell, markets in Baghdad were not car- or suicide-bombed nor were ordinary Sunni and Shiite citizens forced from their homes under threat of death under Saddam. I guess talking about that is romanticism.

    Yes, I know he brutalized and murdered the Kurds and that they are certainly better off now(but somehow I don’t think the citizens of Central and Southern Iraq are much consoled by that). That mentions genocide.

    Any who dared to oppose him politically were murdered, sometimes en masse; his execution was for his conviction of the killing of 148 Shiites in al-Dujail after an assassination attempt. That mentions murderous oppression.

    He was a street thug who murdered his way to the dictatorship of his country. That mentions murderous oppression.

    By the way, Darrell, if you’ve bothered to read this far, THE ENTIRE POST YOU’RE REFERRING TO WAS SARCASM!!! The Point is that Cheney is still touting the alleged connection in spite of the Pentagon report, which cites Saddam Hussein as a source for their conclusion. Had you complained about my attacking Cheney for this, we might be able to have a conversation. But it seems that you would rather find romanticization of an appalling dictator than exercise the interpretive skills one would expect of a high school student. Tell me, what do you think of the romanticizing of Hitler by Mel Brooks in “The Producers”?

  61. 61.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Yes, you were right TZ, crickets are chirping VERY loudly.

  62. 62.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 12:33 pm

    Damn! the second reference to “murderous oppression”should have been to “sociopathology”. Damn copy&paste!

  63. 63.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 12:34 pm

    Here’s left wing narrative:

    The history of the United States in the 20th Century, in terms of domestic policy, advances of rights, liberties and protections, was the history of progrssive thought and government. To the extent that America is part of the community of modern, liberal democracies, it owes that membership to liberal government.

    Except that modern conservatives by and large follow classical liberalism. You conflate the defintion to dishonestly advance your “point”.

  64. 64.

    Tim F.

    April 6, 2007 at 12:37 pm

    how has Bush “defied” the Constitution? Facts please

    Darrell, if you honestly, really don’t get the joke and you’re not just trying to bait me into a pointless argument then there really isn’t much hope for you.

  65. 65.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 12:38 pm

    Send for Darrell’s new booklet, “Great Conservative Thought — Greatest Bathroom Book of All Time!”

    Just $19.95 plus S&H { add to cart }

    In this commode-side compendium, Darrell reduces all of Twentieth Century conservative thought to a few cartoons, depicting ….

    Lester Maddox takes an axe handle to darkies trying to enter his restaurant ….

    Our grandparents starving in food lines during the Great Depression ……

    Japanese Relocation Centers in WWII …..

    and more!!

    Order today!!

  66. 66.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 12:39 pm

    Except that modern conservatives by and large follow classical liberalism. You conflate the defintion to dishonestly advance your “point”.

    BWAAAHAHAHAHA? You mean the Neocons?

    Those are your “conservatives?”

    Perpteual War is now the guiding principle of your ideology?

    Huge, huge winner for your side in 2006. Wait until next year, amigo!

  67. 67.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 12:43 pm

    modern conservatives by and large follow classical liberalism

    This is correct. Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, James Dobson, John Yoo, etc., are not modern conservatives.

  68. 68.

    Tim F.

    April 6, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    modern conservatives by and large follow classical liberalism

    True! John Cole, the Commissar, Gregory Djerejian and Andrew Sullivan clearly attest to that. First liberals recognized that our current admin comes from loopyville, then the modern conservatives followed suit.

  69. 69.

    srv

    April 6, 2007 at 12:49 pm

    Except that modern conservatives by and large follow classical liberalism.

    POTD. What a riot, I almost fell for it thinking it was the real you.

    No, really, who’s playing Darrell today?

  70. 70.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 1:02 pm

    Except that modern conservatives by and large follow classical liberalism.

    POTD. What a riot, I almost fell for it thinking it was the real you.

    yes, how silly and uninformed of me

    Classical liberalism(also known as traditional liberalism[1] and laissez-faire liberalism[2]) is a doctrine stressing the importance of human rationality, individual property rights, natural rights, constitutional limitations of government, the protection of civil liberties, an economic policy with heavy emphasis on free markets, and individual freedom from restraint as exemplified in the writings of Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Jeremy Bentham, and John Stuart Mill

    ..The qualification classical was applied in retrospect to distinguish early nineteenth-century liberalism from the “new liberalism” associated with Thomas Hill Green, Leonard Trelawny Hobhouse,[7] and Franklin D. Roosevelt.[8], which grants a more interventionist role for the state.
    Friedrich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman are credited with a revival of classical liberalism in the 20th century after it fell out of favor beginning in the late nineteenth century and much of the twentieth century

  71. 71.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 1:04 pm

    Yes, for reference, see the mighty 3-way between myself, Darrell and DougJ about two years ago, on the subject of the Neocons and where they came from.

    That was the real (or at least, the original) Darrell.

    Nutty and stupid to a fault.

    And in some serious denial.

  72. 72.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    I’d really like to know if Darrell believes that The Bush/neocon crowd

    by and large follow classical liberalism.

  73. 73.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    modern conservatives by and large follow classical liberalism

    True! John Cole, the Commissar, Gregory Djerejian and Andrew Sullivan clearly attest to that

    The old John Cole, yeah..

  74. 74.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 1:10 pm

    By the way, does it bother anybody that the meaning of the word “liberalism” without a qualifier has changed, at least in contemporary political discourse, from the days of Adam Smith, David Ricardo, Jeremy Bentham, and John Stuart Mill?

  75. 75.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 1:14 pm

    I’d really like to know if Darrell believes that The Bush/neocon crowd

    by and large follow classical liberalism.

    I think Bush has betrayed many of the classical liberal principles. He is a wild spender and believer in many big govt. programs.

    But not in the case of invading Afghanistan and Iraq, as I believe those fall under the category of national defense.

  76. 76.

    srv

    April 6, 2007 at 1:15 pm

    yes, how silly and uninformed of me

    You’re a blithering idiot.

    Besides, maybe, Ron Paul, what fucking modern conservatives are you talking about?

    None of your Republicans believes in Civil Rights, “Free Trade”, or less Government.

    Don’t tell me what that word means, you and your heroes are the ones who don’t know what that word means. After the Gingrich revolution and 6 years of nitwits, exactly what rights have y’all protected, exactly which subsidies have you cut, what constraints have you put on the Fed, and exactly what reductions in the footprint of the Federal Gov’t have you made?

    You are Hypocrite Maximus today, nitwit. You don’t even really know what you believe.

  77. 77.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    The old John Cole

    was a merry old soul.
    A merry old soul was he.
    He called for no debt.
    He called for no war,
    He called for the end of the stupidity, arrogance, incompetence, dishonesty, and dictatorial ambitions of the administration and
    An end to their idiocy.
    .

  78. 78.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 1:22 pm

    None of your Republicans believes in Civil Rights, “Free Trade”, or less Government.

    Actually, I’d say most Republicans believe in all of the above, in stark contrast to Democrats, whose idea of enforcing “civil rights” is to discriminate based on skin color through affirmative action, and who have never seen a non-military govt. program that they didn’t like and want to expand.. “War on Poverty”, government healthcare, etc, etc.

  79. 79.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 1:27 pm

    But not in the case of invading Afghanistan and Iraq, as I believe those fall under the category of national defense.

    An arguable, albeit wrong-headed, point. Short version of rebuttal: The 9/11 attack should have been treated as a criminal act, not a casus belli. The war with/on/in Iraq was based on provocation that the administration knew or should have known to be questionable if not out-and-out false and did not result from any threat the nation had to defend against.

  80. 80.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 1:34 pm

    The modern Republican party is the very embodiment of classical liberal principles.
    .
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    .
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    .
    .
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  81. 81.

    srv

    April 6, 2007 at 1:37 pm

    Actually, I’d say most Republicans believe in all of the above

    Boy, you really are the prototypical modern Republican. Could you shout a little louder “WE’RE ALL A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES, OR WE’RE CLUELESS!”.

    We believe these things, but you couldn’t possibly look at the last 15 years and find any evidence of our progress in those beliefs.

    and who have never seen a non-military govt. program that they didn’t like and want to expand.. “War on Poverty”, government healthcare, etc, etc.

    You’re a very confused person if you think any Democrats have ever run around calling themselves Classical Liberals…

  82. 82.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 1:48 pm

    Here’s a report on the USA swearing in ceremony. Color guard, choir, processional…you know. Modest.

  83. 83.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 1:50 pm

    Actually, I’d say most Republicans believe in all of the above, in stark contrast to Democrats, whose idea of enforcing “civil rights” is to discriminate based on skin color

    unlike the present Republican administration.

  84. 84.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 2:01 pm

    OT, but priceless. Gingrich Speaking Fee Bankrupts College Republican Club.

  85. 85.

    Matt M

    April 6, 2007 at 2:03 pm

    Darrel I missed ya!!! I haven’t seen a thread so thoroughly high jacked by a spoof…. well since the last time you stopped by. Truly the best. Once i saw you’re name, i got out the popcorn, dimmed the lights, and laughed away as i scrolled down.. Good Job!!

  86. 86.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 2:04 pm

    Gingrich Speaking Fee Bankrupts College Republican Club.

    They could always pay for it by lowering club dues (taxes).

  87. 87.

    Bubblegum Tate

    April 6, 2007 at 2:10 pm

    Gingrich Speaking Fee Bankrupts College Republican Club.

    They could always pay for it by lowering club dues (taxes).

    Now that’s a great comedy 1-2 combo!

  88. 88.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 2:16 pm

    When Gingrich finds out about this, perhaps he’ll apologize in Spanish

  89. 89.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 2:26 pm

    This incarnation of Darrell is different. So far no real epithet hurling (one reference to “extreme left partisan hack such as yourself”, one “you’re a nitwit you’re another” exchange), no lengthy off-point arguments. I expect more.

    What have you done with the real Darrell?

  90. 90.

    grumpy realist

    April 6, 2007 at 3:01 pm

    Or maybe the College Republicans could actually, y’know, do something to show they Support This War by actually signing up to fight it?

    Sorry, son, but “Your Flag Decal Won’t Get You Into Heaven Any More.”

    God I love John Prine.

  91. 91.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    Chad N. Freude Says:

    This incarnation of Darrell is different. So far no real epithet hurling

    Yeah, and in the face of typical provocations/insults like these

    You’re a blithering idiot.

    You are Hypocrite Maximus today, nitwit.

    changing the subject

    Here’s a report on the USA swearing in ceremony. Color guard, choir, processional…you know. Modest.

    A $225 ceremony is definitely modest by any standard.

  92. 92.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    A $225 ceremony is definitely modest by any standard.

    Leaving aside the amount of pomp that can be considered modest, the only reference to cost I could find was the KSTP item that says figure.

    According to her office, the cost to taxpayers was $225.

    No documentation, receipts, canceled checks, whatever. Of course they don’t have to provide any documentation, but not doing so encourages speculation.

  93. 93.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 3:36 pm

    The cost to taxpayers was $200, not including the $1500 fee waived for the facility. The rest was paid out of pocket. I’m not sure how much a choir costs, but I would assume it isn’t cheap. Nothing about the ceremony appeared “modest.”

  94. 94.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 3:41 pm

    No documentation, receipts, canceled checks, whatever. Of course they don’t have to provide any documentation, but not doing so encourages speculation.

    So, after a biased hit piece news article which was wrong on at least some of the facts (on the number of attorneys resigning, while failing to note that 2 out of the 3 had lined up new jobs before Paulose was even appointed), you blame Paulose. And who says there was “no documentation” or receipts? Or did you simply make that up for dramatic effect?

  95. 95.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 3:47 pm

    Perry Como Says:

    The cost to taxpayers was $200, not including the $1500 fee waived for the facility. The rest was paid out of pocket. I’m not sure how much a choir costs, but I would assume it isn’t cheap. Nothing about the ceremony appeared “modest.”

    Well first of all, university choirs often perform free. Second, there is no solid evidence of the “color guard” etc, as Paulose’s office already said that the basis of the “news” hit piece was pure bullshit

    Paulose’s office called the document inaccurate and said it was discarded months ago.

    But since it fits your narrative, keep on parrotting the lies.

  96. 96.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 3:51 pm

    What have you done with the real Darrell?

    Which version?

    this version is a former student of John’s who is covering while students are on Spring Break. Once exams are finished and the semester over, then you’ll notice another change, another chance for a former student (possibly the same one we have)to come back and spoof as Darrell while we’re waiting for the next Darrell, who will arrive at the beginning of next semester, obviously.

    I have to say, Darrell 1.0 was much more interesting than the Darrell we have now, although the one we have now actually has learned how to relax enough to cuss sometimes. There’s that at least.

  97. 97.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    you blame Paulose

    Where did I say that?

    And who says there was “no documentation” or receipts?

    I stand corrected. I should have said that there was no mention of supporting documentation in the article.

    Second, there is no solid evidence of the “color guard” etc, as Paulose’s office already said that the basis of the “news” hit piece was pure bullshit

    Powerline begs to differ:

    The investiture was structured as a tribute to the United States, with a color guard that showed the flag and a choir that sang the national anthem.

    I think you should fire your research assistant.

  98. 98.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    this version is a former drinking buddy girlfriend student of John’s

    Just saying.

  99. 99.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 4:00 pm

    I think you should fire your research assistant.

    I stand corrected on the color guard then, which not nearly as egregious an error as your “no documentation or receipts” lie.

  100. 100.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 4:01 pm

    John doesn’t have time for girlfriends, he has a blog. He is married to the internets.

  101. 101.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    He is married to the internets.

    So, he’s Pissy Whipped?

  102. 102.

    MikeF

    April 6, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    Still waiting for that list of Conservative achievements….

  103. 103.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:05 pm

    I stand corrected on the color guard then, which not nearly as egregious an error as your “no documentation or receipts” lie.

    And you know it’s a lie because

    I stand corrected. I should have said that there was no mention of supporting documentation in the article.

    is unclear?

    Oh, and you left out the choir.

  104. 104.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 4:09 pm

    Oh, and you left out the choir.

    Whoops, I already wrote

    Well first of all, university choirs often perform free.

    You’re certainly not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you Chad?

  105. 105.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    Still waiting for that list of Conservative achievements….

    I checked with Peggy Noonan, she apparently thinks that John Paul was the poster boy.

    When you have to go to the Vatican to find an example of constructive conservatism …… well, you have to admit, they have a great uniform.

    I’m sure there are other great examples out there.

    Say, wasn’t the Tennessee Valley Authority a Great Conservative Idea? Rural electrification?

    Oops, I guess not. Well, I thought it might be since it’s in Tennessee and all, and Fred Thompson is from there.

  106. 106.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:13 pm

    Well, I meant the post I was responding to, but, hey, if it means that much to you, you win.
    Re knife: I’m actually more of a spoon, although I have been called one sick fork.

  107. 107.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    I’m sure there are other great examples out there.

    I really liked the examples you chose, actually. They seem so full of liberal thought (that uniform is HOT, where can I get one?)

  108. 108.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 4:25 pm

    Well first of all, university choirs often perform free.

    That’s the oldest looking university choir I’ve seen. Who knew universities had so many balding, white haired students?

  109. 109.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 4:26 pm

    I have been called one sick fork.

    There’s never enough tine, is there?

  110. 110.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 4:28 pm

    That’s the oldest looking university choir I’ve seen. Who knew universities had so many balding, white haired students?

    1) Where did you see a pic of the choir. There was no pic in the article you cited

    2) do you have even one shred of evidence that the choir cost taxpayers anything?

  111. 111.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:29 pm

    That’s the oldest looking university choir I’ve seen. Who knew universities had so many balding, white haired students?

    I’ve been trying to find a reference to where the choir came from, but without success. I guess my fact-checking skills are not as finely honed as Darrell’s.

    Darrell, which university were they from?

  112. 112.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    do you have even one shred of evidence that the choir cost taxpayers anything

    Did you have even one shred of evidence when you said there was no color guard?

    Darrell, your failure to adhere to your own standards is really disappointing.

  113. 113.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:33 pm

    There’s never enough tine, is there?

    Sharp!

  114. 114.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 4:40 pm

    1) Where did you see a pic of the choir. There was no pic in the article you cited

    There’s a video in the article I linked.

    2) do you have even one shred of evidence that the choir cost taxpayers anything?

    No, but the cost to the tax payer isn’t my point. The ceremony was not “modest” by any stretch of the imagination. Unless I’m completely off base and having a choir, color guard, procession and renting out an auditorium is how the swearing in of a US attorney normally occurs.

  115. 115.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    Darrell, which university were they from?

    Pat Robertson’s Regent University. They heard you can get a sweet government job by graduating from there.

    Interviewer: “Where did you got to school and what did you major in?”
    Interviewee: “I was a Religious Music Theory major at Regent University.”
    Interviewer: “Well, science has theories. And you majored in something that has theory in the name. Congratulations, you are now the director of NOAA. We hope you do a heckuva job.”

  116. 116.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:46 pm

    renting out an auditorium

    My inner pedant is compelled to point out that the auditorium was donated.

  117. 117.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 4:48 pm

    The ceremony was not “modest” by any stretch of the imagination. Unless I’m completely off base and having a choir, color guard, procession and renting out an auditorium

    Except that it’s already been well established that they didn’t have to pay any “rent” for the room, as the university donated the space.

    is how the swearing in of a US attorney normally occurs.

    How would you know how the swearing in of a US attorney “normally” occurs?

  118. 118.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    Sharp!

    Pointedly so.

  119. 119.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:51 pm

    Except that it’s already been well established that they didn’t have to pay any “rent” for the room, as the university donated the space.

    Ha, ha, beatcha to it. My timestamp’s earlier than yours. Neener neener!

  120. 120.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 4:57 pm

    How would you know how the swearing in of a US attorney “normally” occurs?

    What a twit. I have had relatives (close ones, who lived in the same house) sworn in to such jobs. Who worked in the US Federal Courthouse with a US Attorney in the building.

    Whaddya think, DOD (Darrell of the Day), it’s some secret ceremony that is held in a cave? Hardly.

    More to the point, what the fuck do YOU know about them?

  121. 121.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    Pointedly so.

    The only thing I can think of at this (ahem) point is “Don’t get me prong.” I’d better stop.

  122. 122.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 4:58 pm

    My inner pedant is compelled to point out that the auditorium was donated.

    Who gets to pay the taxes on the donation? Is it considered a gift? Is it a personal favor to Paulose or to the office?

    How would you know how the swearing in of a US attorney “normally” occurs?

    Is it “normal” to take months to plan the ceremony, have a choir, have a color guard, etc.? Or is “normal” to have a few people in the judge’s chambers and swear in the US attorney? What say Powerline?

  123. 123.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 4:59 pm

    How would you know how the swearing in of a US attorney “normally” occurs?

    Numerous press accounts. But I suppose that negates the assertion.

  124. 124.

    Darrell

    April 6, 2007 at 5:01 pm

    Is it considered a gift? Is it a personal favor to Paulose or to the office?

    The donated room was an abomination bordering on unconstitutional.

  125. 125.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    The only thing I can think of at this (ahem) point is “Don’t get me prong.” I’d better stop.

    You apparently don’t eat with utensils?

    “Careful with that axe Eugene”.

  126. 126.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 5:02 pm

    I will give her points for not anointing herself with oil (or Crisco, for that matter).

  127. 127.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    The donated room was an abomination bordering on unconstitutional.

    Actually, the room was just a simple bit of space with walls, a ceiling and a floor… the abomination is in your own mind.

  128. 128.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 5:04 pm

    The donated room was an abomination bordering on unconstitutional.

    Well now you are just getting into moonbat Ron Paul/Bob Barr territory.

  129. 129.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    Is it considered a gift? Is it a personal favor to Paulose or to the office?

    The Powerline article has two paragraphs on this, saying among other things

    Before accepting the offer, however, clearance was obtained from the Department of Justice to make sure that it entailed no issue of policy. Judge Schiltz’s investiture had taken place in the Law School atrium only this past September. There was no actual or apparent conflict in using the Law School space and the Department of Justice cleared it.

    Claims it’s very common at that law school.

  130. 130.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 5:06 pm

    An

    axe

    is an eating utensil? Please don’t invite me to dinner.

  131. 131.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 5:08 pm

    Actually, the room was just a simple bit of space with walls, a ceiling and a floor

    Where’d you get this from? It was a law school “atrium”or auditorium (depending on the source).

  132. 132.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 5:09 pm

    Claims it’s very common at that law school.

    Ok, I’ll take Powerline at its word then (blech). Maybe this is much ado about nothing.

  133. 133.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 5:13 pm

    Where’d you get this from? It was a law school “atrium”or auditorium (depending on the source).

    Are you saying atriums don’t have ceilings?

  134. 134.

    Perry Como

    April 6, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    Are you saying atriums don’t have ceilings?

    Buildings without their tops on are immoral.

  135. 135.

    ThymeZone

    April 6, 2007 at 5:16 pm

    Please don’t invite axe me to dinner.

    Edited to sound more like you.

  136. 136.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 5:20 pm

    Buildings without their tops on are immoral.

    Two points!

  137. 137.

    Rome Again

    April 6, 2007 at 9:25 pm

    Buildings without their tops on are immoral.

    Two points!

    I was expecting SOME kind of Ashcroft joke over this, hmmmm.

  138. 138.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 9:27 pm

    Please don’t invite axe me to dinner.

    Damn, I wish I’d said that. I yield to a Higher Power of Pun-gency.

    Now if I were Darrell, and I think we’re all glad I’m not (especially Darrell), I would say:
    Do you have a shred of evidence that I speak like a hip-hopper, you racist?

  139. 139.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 9:28 pm

    Failed to strike invite. Banish me.

  140. 140.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 6, 2007 at 9:34 pm

    Are you saying atriums don’t have ceilings?

    No, no, no. Atria in modern buildings have ceilings. They didn’t in ancient Rome, Rome Again.

  141. 141.

    Rome Again

    April 7, 2007 at 1:26 am

    No, no, no. Atria in modern buildings have ceilings.

    I rest my case.

  142. 142.

    Chuck Butcher

    April 7, 2007 at 12:31 pm

    Since a relevant part of this article posed the question of whether or not the Republicans would get sick enough of Bush-splash to impeach, I’ll offer this thought. The Republican Congressional delegation are the survivors of 06 which makes them the more hard line bunch and most closely tied to BushCo’s “policies.” They are so closely identified with this admin that impeachment would be a self-indictment. They cannot afford that. I have no idea what they can afford going into 08 or how they’ll manage to disassociate without cutting their own throats. I’d watch for desperation and some very loony politics.

    Some, like Greg Walden (R 02 OR) are safe, some are in serious danger, some are just plain done for as things sit today. You know they’ll do whatever it takes to change that equation.

  143. 143.

    Emile

    April 7, 2007 at 2:58 pm

    So, after a biased hit piece news article which was wrong on at least some of the facts (on the number of attorneys resigning, while failing to note that 2 out of the 3 had lined up new jobs before Paulose was even appointed),

    Hooo kay then, how about an unbiased report from Fox news. They never get it wrong.

    — It’s a major shakeup at the offices of new U.S. Attorney Rachel Paulose.

    Four of her top staff voluntarily demoted themselves Thursday, fed up with Paulose, who, after just months on the job, has earned a reputation for quoting Bible verses and dressing down underlings.

    Deputy U.S. Attorney John Marty is just one of the people dropping themselves in rank to simply a U.S. Attorney position. Also making the move are the heads of Paulose’s criminal and civil divisions and the top administrative officer.

    The move is intended to send a message to Washington – that 33-year-old Paulose is in over her head.

  144. 144.

    Darrell

    April 7, 2007 at 3:46 pm

    Hooo kay then, how about an unbiased report from Fox news. They never get it wrong.

    — It’s a major shakeup at the offices of new U.S. Attorney Rachel Paulose.

    Four of her top staff voluntarily demoted themselves Thursday

    Nobody is saying Fox is perfect, especially if they used the hit piece as their source, but since you’re making the accusation, care to back it up with a link? This is all that I found at foxnews.com when searching under the name/word Paulose:

    3 Lawyers With U.S. Attorney’s Office in Minneapolis Step Down From Management Posts

  145. 145.

    Chad N. Freude

    April 7, 2007 at 6:39 pm

    This is all that I found at foxnews.com when searching under the name/word Paulose

    Terse, wasn’t it? A little more detail — well, a lot, actually — can be found here and here.

    BTW, if you search the Washington Times (not the Post, the Times) for Paulose, you come up with this:

    Nothing, nada, rien, zip, zilch

    Apparently Rev. Moon’s house organ does not know of Ms. Paulose’s travails or considers them unnewsworthy.

  146. 146.

    Emile

    April 7, 2007 at 9:00 pm

    Alrighty then.

  147. 147.

    craigie

    April 8, 2007 at 3:31 pm

    But not in the case of invading Afghanistan and Iraq, as I believe those fall under the category of national defense offense.

    Fixed.

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