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You are here: Home / Open Threads / The sorrow and the pity

The sorrow and the pity

by DougJ|  May 6, 20092:42 pm| 94 Comments

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John inspired me to check out the Reason website. I found some Big Hollywood grade stupidity:

Stages of Denial

Take pity on the left as it grapples with the tea party revolt

Matt Kibbe | April 29, 2009

It’s a perfect example of wingnut writing: from the “we succeeded in pissing off the left” measure of success to a gratuitous discussion of Janeane Garofalo.

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  1. 1.

    Scruffy McSnufflepuss

    May 6, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    This is good news for McCain!

  2. 2.

    NonyNony

    May 6, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    It’s a perfect example of wingnut writing: from the “we succeeded in pissing off the left” measure of success to a gratuitous discussion of Janeane Garofalo

    I don’t really want to go read it, but does it include the other major points of High Wingnut – Michael Moore Is Fat, Al Gore Has A Big House, and George Soros is a Scary Jewish Dude With A Lot Of Money?

    If it doesn’t include those three, I’m not sure I can call it a perfect example. But including both “we win if we piss off dirty hippies” and a swipe at Garofalo does put it high up in the charts. Bonus points if there’s a mention that Barry Sotero hasn’t yet shown us his birth certificate.

  3. 3.

    guster

    May 6, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Other reasons to take pity on the left?

    Arlen Specter’s party switching, of course.
    Howard Dean becoming chair of the DNC.
    Nominating a cryptoduskymuslifascisocimunityorginizer.
    The deaths of Ted Kennedy and Ruth Bader Ginsberg.
    The countertops of the Frost family.
    Their lack of imagination in insisting upon a mere _three_ branches of government.
    All those ticking bombs.

  4. 4.

    Incertus

    May 6, 2009 at 2:50 pm

    Grapple–is that like grape snapple? Because that makes a little more sense than what’s actually written there.

  5. 5.

    Comrade Mary, Would-Be Minion Of Bad Horse

    May 6, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    Grappa. You need lots and lots of grappa before reason is tolerable.

  6. 6.

    DougJ

    May 6, 2009 at 2:51 pm

    @Nony

    No, but it works in Che Guevara, Paul Krugman, and Nancy Pelosi (in more or less one breath).

  7. 7.

    MattF

    May 6, 2009 at 2:52 pm

    OK, I’m grappling. OK, done grappling, begun feeling a sense of mild irritation. OK, took ibuprofen, mild irritation is over. Is that it?

  8. 8.

    Lev

    May 6, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    Voltaire: If God had not existed, it would be necessary for man to create Him.

    Me: Grassroots opposition to Obama’s policies didn’t really exist, therefore Fox News had to create it.

    (Yes, I realize that the tea parties were in the planning stages before Fox and Gingrich got involved, but without them it would have looked like the sorry-ass anti-Iraq rallies in the right-wing suburb I was raised in.)

  9. 9.

    Joshua Norton

    May 6, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Nominating a cryptoduskymuslifascisocimunityorginizer.

    You can add Mormon to that now, too.

  10. 10.

    Col. Klink

    May 6, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    I had no idea I was in such denial?

    I guess the classic Leftist counterstrike would be to throw 10 million metric tons of Cheetos into Boston harbor.

  11. 11.

    Nylund

    May 6, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    Don’t take pity on the left right as it grapples with the failure of the tea party revolt.

    Fixed.

  12. 12.

    Incertus

    May 6, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    @NonyNony:

    I don’t really want to go read it, but does it include the other major points of High Wingnut – Michael Moore Is Fat, Al Gore Has A Big House, and George Soros is a Scary Jewish Dude With A Lot Of Money?

    Is this the last verse of David Allen Coe’s “You Don’t Even Call Me By My Name; the Republican Party Remix?”

  13. 13.

    jon

    May 6, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Teabaggers: 700,000 in nearly 900 events
    Immigration rallies: 500k in LA, 3-5 hundred thousand in Dallas, 300k in Chicago.

    And they’re claiming this as a victory?

  14. 14.

    Zifnab

    May 6, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    It’s like that stage in a break-up where the guy/girl that got dumped is just standing around saying, “[S]he’ll be back. Once [s]he realizes how good [s]he had it, [s]he’ll crawl right back saying ‘Oh I wish I hadn’t dumped you’. The one [s]he’s dating now is no good and once [s]he realizes it, everything will be just like it was before… assuming I even take him/her back.”

    The GOP thinks it can run around calling America’s new significant other a douchebag/dirty whore, and America will come running back, apologizing for the terrible mistake its made.

    It’s epic level denial. I’ll concede that.

    Can’t wait till July 4th!

  15. 15.

    Delia

    May 6, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Wow. it must be a sign of my deep denial that I’d pretty much forgotten about the teabaggers and moved on to this month’s events.

  16. 16.

    Thankovsky

    May 6, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    Call me old school, but I still live in a country where the citizens more than “value” their liberties and their ability to express opposition to government policy.

    Seriously, Matt? Do you seriously want to make a claim like that, as a conservative?

  17. 17.

    Nylund

    May 6, 2009 at 3:03 pm

    The only thing I am grappling with is the fact that about a half dozen or so of these teabagger types have gone on shooting rampages and killed a lot of innocent people.

    That actually does scare me a little bit.

    Old ladies with tea bags hanging from their hats? Not so much. Those people, and the wingnut blogs that write about them, provide a lot of comedy gold.

  18. 18.

    random asshole

    May 6, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    I have to give Mr. Kibbe some credit. He wrote an unusually large amount of nothing, compared to the typical two paragraphs of nothing I’ve grown used to expecting.

  19. 19.

    Jay in Oregon

    May 6, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    According to Pajamas Media, 700,873 people attended some 883 tea party protests on April 15. It was a remarkable day, a tangible expression of public outrage that I have not experienced in my 25 years of advocacy and grassroots organizing on behalf of free-market principles.

    …because I closed my eyes and ears and went “LA LA LA LA LA” whenever coverage of the protests of the war in Iraq came up. Or were you referring specifically to “public outrage […] on behalf of free-market principles”?

  20. 20.

    Zifnab

    May 6, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    @Col. Klink: Only if they’ve got a permit.

    Seriously, these guys can’t even do civil disobedience right.

  21. 21.

    r€nato

    May 6, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Judging from the left’s hysterical reaction, something really big must have happened.

    ‘hysterical laughter’ does not mean the same thing as ‘hysterical overreaction’.

  22. 22.

    blogenfreude

    May 6, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    @NonyNony: I think it’s incomplete without a reference to Scott Beauchamp, Bilal Hussein, or Green Helmet Guy. Any one (or combination) will do.

  23. 23.

    Thankovsky

    May 6, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    @Delia:

    You only forgot about it because LIBERALS CONTROL THE MEDIA!!!1

  24. 24.

    cleek

    May 6, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    the very last line in that piece is the most important.

  25. 25.

    Jay B.

    May 6, 2009 at 3:08 pm

    It’s funny because this is exactly the opposite of Gandhi’s dictum. Like everything else, the right gets it perfectly wrong and learns the precisely wrong lessons about the left’s response to Teabagging.

    When it comes to the teabaggers/Fox/GOP anger whores, first we fought them, then we ridiculed them, next we’ll ignore them.

    Look, they’re the ones who went from James Baker to Joe the Plumber during the span of the Bush years. Just through the last disastrous term, the conservative movement dissolved from a group running all three branches of government during a time of war, to a disorganized mess wearing used teabags on their heads — what the fuck were we supposed to do?

    We had already taken them seriously enough to organize and oust them, it seems only right that we enjoy ridiculing them for 1) ignoring the previous 8 years of economic insanity and only getting mad because there was a black president 2) taking their ‘grassroots’ cues from Fox and Dick Armey 3) getting the history of the Boston Tea Party wrong 4) thinking ACORN was going to infiltrate their movement and 5) TEABAGGING.

    The lesson doesn’t get any deeper Matt.

  26. 26.

    robertdsc

    May 6, 2009 at 3:09 pm

    Janeane Garofalo

    I liked her before the tattoos. Now, not so much.

  27. 27.

    Joshua Norton

    May 6, 2009 at 3:14 pm

    Take pity on the left as it grapples with the tea party revolt

    Someone’s going to have to remind me what that whole “tea” thing was about. I seem to have completely forgotten about it.

    Time to do something more really important – like the watching the dancing cockatoo again.

  28. 28.

    Mojotron

    May 6, 2009 at 3:15 pm

    Reason used to be somewhat decent, but right around the time of the Ron Paul Survival Report scandal and Weigel’s writeup there seemed to be a schism. The first camp consisting of those who realized that the RPSR stuff was damning and anything short of some real accountability for it meant his candidacy was non-viable, and the second camp were those who took his unbelievable “it wasn’t me and I didn’t know anything about it and they’ve been dealt with” at face value and wanted to sweep it under the rug. Camp #2 won out (i.e. those Moynahan columns that are all about pissing off “the left”) and it’s been shit since.

    Even Joe seems to have *ahem* “canceled his subscription”

  29. 29.

    Michael

    May 6, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    scene: a worn out casino in downtown Las Vegas, 5:48 AM.

    There’s a forlorn looking room with blackjack tables, craps tables and a roulette, with a few pathetic, down on their luck, ill clad gamblers shuffling about.

    The camera focuses on a solitary figure at a blackjack table – the table’s felt is frayed, the dealer smoking a generic cigarette and drinking a giant cocktail of cheap bourbon out of a “Big Gulp”.

    The player has a RedStateStrikeForce patch on his camo jacket and a Reason magazine stuffed in his back pocket, and is staring down at a set of cards that totals 22.

    Hit me.

    The dealer looks down, shakes his head, takes another pull off his drink, and lays down a 9. The forlorn gambler looks down and says:

    Hit me again.

  30. 30.

    demimondian

    May 6, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    I originally read the author’s name as “Matt Kibble” and thought of pet food.

    Then I wondered “a pet what?” — oh, of course, obviously a pet *goat*.

  31. 31.

    Thankovsky

    May 6, 2009 at 3:18 pm

    @robertdsc:
    She’s an excellent example of that bizarre trend of fat funny comedians becoming substantially less-funny when they lose weight.

  32. 32.

    RememberNovember

    May 6, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    Lots of dislocated shoulders patting themselves on the back for a job well done…and they accomplished what, exactly? The Original Boston Tea Party was about Big Gov’t ( The King) giving tax cuts to Big Industry (East India Co.) and shafting the local “entrepreneurs”- ie smugglers and grey-market dealers. That’ simplified, but my understanding of the issue afaik.

  33. 33.

    SpotWeld

    May 6, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    How the heck were the “tea parties” revolts.
    All those who were there and protested (leaving aside the disoranization on what they were protesting about), went back to doing whatever they were doing in the first place.

    There were no work slow downs, no sit-ins, (as far as I know) no non-payment of taxes.

    How the heck was that a revolt?!

  34. 34.

    Ash Can

    May 6, 2009 at 3:23 pm

    @Nylund: When I first saw the headline, my mind read it like your “fixed” version, and I wondered what the fuss was about. Then I looked a little more carefully, and saw that the word was actually “left,” and wondered WTF this Kibble Kibbe guy was talking about.

  35. 35.

    demimondian

    May 6, 2009 at 3:24 pm

    @SpotWeld: They were revoltingly fake?

  36. 36.

    Bubblegum Tate

    May 6, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    I don’t really want to go read it, but does it include the other major points of High Wingnut – Michael Moore Is Fat, Al Gore Has A Big House, and George Soros is a Scary Jewish Dude With A Lot Of Money?

    You forgot one: [blank] Is Straight Out of the Saul Alinsky Playbook!

  37. 37.

    Michael

    May 6, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Damn it to hell – I’m buried in moderation…..

    Was it the gambling references?

  38. 38.

    Thankovsky

    May 6, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    @RememberNovember:
    Well, not only that – it was also a protest against the fact that they were being taxed without being represented in Parliament. The Red States can’t make the same complaint; they’re represented in Congress disproportionately.

  39. 39.

    AnotherBruce

    May 6, 2009 at 3:27 pm

    Someone’s going to have to remind me what that whole “tea” thing was about. I seem to have completely forgotten about it.

    The thing is, nobody is quite sure what it was about.

    Something about raising the marginal tax rates on the wealthy by 3% as far as I can tell.

  40. 40.

    Evinfuilt

    May 6, 2009 at 3:29 pm

    According to Pajamas Media, 700,873 people attended some 883 tea party protests on April 15.

    How the heck did they get that number. I knew at the end of day the official numbers were “over two hundred thousand” and using Fox News methodology of nearly 500 is thousands I could see them going up to half a million.

    But I think what it is:
    100k – people who protested that day
    100k – people who “protested” at lunch
    500k – viewers who purposefully tuned into the news in support of the protests
    873 – Fox/Astroturf provided staff to help cover the event.

  41. 41.

    Persia

    May 6, 2009 at 3:31 pm

    Man, those comments are a pile of fail. Did you know Rachel Maddow was a lesbian? That’s funny! No, really, it is.

  42. 42.

    Michael

    May 6, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    Something about raising the marginal tax rates on the wealthy by 3% as far as I can tell.

    And don’t forget – that 3% rise is only on amounts over $250,000.00.

    Everybody else has to sacrifice. They, however, can’t – asking it of them Ruins America.

  43. 43.

    demimondian

    May 6, 2009 at 3:32 pm

    @AnotherBruce: Well, actually, it was something about not changing the law to retain a tax cut. Something about how a democratic government couldn’t do nothing about giving privileges to the privileged.

    Or something like that.

  44. 44.

    ComradeDread

    May 6, 2009 at 3:33 pm

    Comrade Dread has grappled with your pathetic tea parties and found them wanting.

    He has moved beyond them and is currently engaging in a Whiskey Rebellion with a bottle of Jameson.

  45. 45.

    Delia

    May 6, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    But I think what it is:
    100k – people who protested that day
    100k – people who “protested” at lunch
    500k – viewers who purposefully tuned into the news in support of the protests
    873 – Fox/Astroturf provided staff to help cover the event.

    Give it another month and the numbers will be up to about 2 million.

  46. 46.

    katsky

    May 6, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    We produced way better numbers for anti-Iraq war rallies and no one gave a damn. This is the part where they realize that their press coverage was short-lived and snarky, everyone has already forgotten, and no one gives a damn. Polls talk; teabaggers walk.

  47. 47.

    Captain Haddock

    May 6, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Janeane Garofalo. Does she still have that show on AirAmerica? Is there still an AirAMerica?

    The local affiliate here in Boston changed format about a year or two, or more, ago. The whole AirAmerica concept seems so dated to me — it reminds me of a hopeless time when the whole country seemed to be falling for Bush’s utter, and obvious, bullshit.

    I can’t beleive, for a breif period of time Janeane Garofalo was making more sense than anyone in the “opposition” party.

  48. 48.

    Dissatisfied Customer

    May 6, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    That piece should’ve been titled “Let Freedom Squeak!”.

  49. 49.

    Francis

    May 6, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Who are the readable righties remaining? I find the following meeting the minimum threshold of not absolutely insane:

    OTB
    Larison
    Drezner (but he comments almost exclusively on foreign affairs)
    Volokh (excluding Bernstein, Lindgren and Zywicki)

    Any others?

  50. 50.

    Captain Haddock

    May 6, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    @Francis:

    The American Conservative is a consistently good read. I subscribed for a while, though got sick of bat-shit crazy mailing lists I ended up on. Its really shocking to find out how many Republican politicians and/or causes use either Rush or Coulter in their mailings.

  51. 51.

    Michael

    May 6, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    OT – but this is awesome. Lord HawHaw is now demanding the final purge of Powell.

    http://conservativexpress.blogspot.com/2009/05/limbaugh-powell-should-become-democrat.html

    Wants him to become a Democrat.

  52. 52.

    Common Sense

    May 6, 2009 at 3:49 pm

    @Francis:

    Freakily enough, LGF belongs on that list.

  53. 53.

    cervantes

    May 6, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    As far as I’m concerned, no discussion of Janeane can be gratuitous.

  54. 54.

    jcricket

    May 6, 2009 at 3:53 pm

    And don’t forget – that 3% rise is only on amounts over $250,000.00.

    And only if it’s regular income. People who earn all their money from stock still pay 15% on long-term gains.

    Waaah! Obama is ruining the country!

  55. 55.

    grumpy realist

    May 6, 2009 at 3:56 pm

    Some good articles over at Reason, very rarely. Most of the commentators come off as 17-year old Randians whose greatest idea of an insult is calling someone a “so$ialist”.

    Could all the self-professed Libertarians please quit bitching about taxes and gov’t spending? Put your money where your mouth is and *move* to places with no gun control, no government, no regulations, and no taxes, mmkay? You’ll get what you want and the U.S. will get rid of a bunch of nitwits with no knowledge of economics, history, or law. (Welcome to Somalia, by the way. Great place for entrepreneurs, right?)

    Libertarians: idiots who think that highways, bridges, law courts, and a non-Third-World economy are provided out of thin air by the Magical Thoughts Fairy.

  56. 56.

    Evinfuilt

    May 6, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    @Michael:
    I’d take Powell into our party, no matter his and our flaws. I hope he takes one more marching order from His Windyness and comes on over.

  57. 57.

    jcricket

    May 6, 2009 at 4:01 pm

    Libertarians: idiots who think that highways, bridges, law courts, and a non-Third-World economy are provided out of thin air by the Magical Thoughts Fairy.

    I’ve come to think the fatal flaw in Libertarian thought is their ignorance of contract law. Basically there is no contract enforcement without the implicit (or explicit) threat of enforcement by the state (legislation, judges, case law, etc).

    So on top of their idiocy regarding public goods, environmental protections, etc – they’re just full of crap on like 50 other levels.

    Why anyone thinks that Libertarianism is a serious philosophy, while similarly ridiculous communism is a discredited ideology is beyond me.

  58. 58.

    Xanthippas

    May 6, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    I think it’s time for John Cole to leave a comment about Reason being a “sad joke” again.

  59. 59.

    NonyNony

    May 6, 2009 at 4:02 pm

    @grumpy realist:

    Could all the self-professed Libertarians please quit bitching about taxes and gov’t spending? Put your money where your mouth is and move to places with no gun control, no government, no regulations, and no taxes, mmkay?

    Eh, I’m not so big on the “Love it or Leave It” approach myself. I hear it too often from wingnuts who tell me I should just move to Canada (or, if they’re being especially annoying, France) when I make an observation that the country doesn’t have to be doing things the way it currently does them.

    Don’t get me wrong – I find big-L Libertarians annoying. Probably not just because I used to be one and have never found a bigger group of uncharitable “Utopian” weirdos with the mantra of “Can’t Somebody Else Do It” anywhere on the planet than at the local Libertarian Party meeting. But I’m just not comfortable with telling people to shut up and leave if they don’t like how the country is moving – that’s just not American.

  60. 60.

    cervantes

    May 6, 2009 at 4:05 pm

    Put your money where your mouth is and move to places with no gun control, no government, no regulations, and no taxes, mmkay?

    Somalia, the libertarian paradise.

  61. 61.

    someguy

    May 6, 2009 at 4:06 pm

    So who’s dumber – libertarians, or conservative? Close call on this.

    One side is racist, hates teh gheys and women and the government. The other side is only occasionally racist (but for principled reasons, you see), doesn’t mind teh gheys, prefers the women naked and stoned (pro porn and pot, gotta love that), and hates the government. Unfortunately, their marketplace gods (von Mises, Friedman) are the whole reason we’re in the economic septic tank we’re in right now.

    So it’s a close call about who is dumber and closer in the race to hop on history’s ash heap, but I think it’s conservatives by at least a couple truncheon lengths.

  62. 62.

    ldconfig

    May 6, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    The party of torture has no morals.

  63. 63.

    PaminBB

    May 6, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    I liked this oxymoronic line that someone quoted above:

    “grassroots organizing on behalf of free-market principles”

    Organizing exactly what?

  64. 64.

    Louise van Hine

    May 6, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Once again, the GOP has confused something with losing.

  65. 65.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    May 6, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    @Incertus:

    Is this the last verse of David Allen Coe’s “You Don’t Even Call Me By My Name; the Republican Party Remix?”

    Nothing but net, Brian!

  66. 66.

    Eclectablog

    May 6, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    Did the tea parties matter? One reasonable measure of progress may be the sheer volume of vitriol produced by their critics. This alone is an attractive value proposition.

    Uh, d00d? I think you’re mistaking “mockery” for “vitriol”. They aren’t the same. But you are right about something: there was a large volume of mockery. No question about that. We were laughing AT you, not WITH you, just so we’re clear.

  67. 67.

    RSA

    May 6, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    My favorite part:

    Some tried to diminish the tea parties as misguided tax protests. In reality, the protestors demonstrated a sophisticated understanding of economics that went well beyond objections to higher tax rates.

    Oh, yeah, whole buncha economic geniuses showed up at the tea parties. Funnier yet, Kibbe continues with a kindergarten-level explanation (or rather a standard libertarian explanation) of what the government’s doing wrong.

  68. 68.

    Athenawise

    May 6, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    They are so clueless, it is pathetic.

    1. As I’ve said before, they don’t know what “teabagging” really means.

    2. And, Kibbe closed with Viva La Revolución!

    3. So, now they’re going to wear Che T-shirts and fight in the jungle?

  69. 69.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 6, 2009 at 4:21 pm

    @Thankovsky: Not to pick on you, but I’m going to pick on you. When was Janeane Garofalo ever fat? Heavier than the anorexic women Hollywood parades around in front of our faces? Yes. Rounded? Yes. Chubby? Maybe. Fat? No.

    I like Janeane and her tats. I think she’s hot no matter how ‘fat’ she is or isn’t.

    As for the aforementioned article, I am limiting my wingnut consumption to shorter wingnut bites because I’m in serious danger of choking to death on the bile.

  70. 70.

    Joshua Norton

    May 6, 2009 at 4:25 pm

    Seems to me if the Rethugs are going to stay with “the Democrats won, we’re all going to die” theme, that sets the bar pretty low for Obama. If anyone’s left in four years, it’s an automatic win for us!

    Just sayin’….

  71. 71.

    kth

    May 6, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    The first words of the piece, According to Pajamas Media, were really all you needed to judge whether the article was worth reading, or indeed, whether you ever need to take seriously anything that issues from the mouth or pen of this Matt Kibbe, however long he might live.

  72. 72.

    kay

    May 6, 2009 at 4:38 pm

    It’s sort of amusing that the libertarians think gathering in taxpayer-funded public spaces is a great idea.

    They can thank their liberal forebears for setting aside the ground they’re standing on.

  73. 73.

    Dr. Loveless

    May 6, 2009 at 4:42 pm

    @jcricket:

    I’ve come to think the fatal flaw in Libertarian thought is their ignorance of contract law. Basically there is no contract enforcement without the implicit (or explicit) threat of enforcement by the state (legislation, judges, case law, etc).

    That, and their ignorance of how the losers in their laissez-faire paradise behave when they become poor and desperate. You can see the template of their thinking in Atlas Shrugged where, once all the great capitalist powerhouses have “gone Galt,” the rest of us either turn on each other or go off to starve quietly in a corner somewhere.

    In the real, non-Randian world, once the rich have acquired everything and the rest of us have nothing, the latter typically break out the torches and pitchforks and take everything back from the former, often quite bloodily. The concept of a regulated market economy with a decent social safety net evolved in large part to prevent that from happening.

  74. 74.

    DonkeyKong

    May 6, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    King Arthur: [after Arthur’s cut off both of the Black Knight’s arms] Look, you stupid Bastard. You’ve got no arms left.
    Black Knight: Yes I have.
    King Arthur: *Look*!
    Black Knight: It’s just a flesh wound.

  75. 75.

    Rheinhard

    May 6, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    cleek @ 24 really nailed it, and no one noticed…

    the very last line in that piece is the most important.

    In the article, the author Matt Kibbe writes:

    Paul Krugman best represented this position: “They’re AstroTurf (fake grassroots) events, manufactured by the usual suspects. In particular, a key role is being played by FreedomWorks, an organization run by Richard Armey, the former House majority leader, and supported by the usual group of right-wing billionaires.” The Nobel Laureate economist lifted that story from Think Progress and the Huffington Post. They, in turn, lifted it from a particularly emotional blog post at Playboy.com that described FreedomWorks as a “mega-beast.”

    Now note the article attribution at the end:

    Matt Kibbe is President of FreedomWorks Foundation.

  76. 76.

    Thlayli

    May 6, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    Black Knight: “I AM INVINCIBLE!!! ”

    King Arthur: “You’re looney.”

  77. 77.

    Chuck Butcher

    May 6, 2009 at 5:00 pm

    I thought grapple was a very strong word for how easily I mocked them and even managed to piss off my own sister. I have fallen off a log more easily, but barely.

    The grief and denial theme is pretty hilarious, WTF? Who does he think took it that seriously…

  78. 78.

    grumpy realist

    May 6, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Heh. I’ve always considered progressive taxation as insurance paid by the rich to not end up being hanged from lampposts…

    And I wouldn’t be so insistent on the “put your money where your mouth is” (i.e., Somalia), except that Libertarians seem to be singularly clueless about the relation between the economy, jobs, infrastructure, and the government. Reason Magazine, before it went over the deep end, did have an article several years back pointing out that for all the hosannahs raised by libertarians about low taxes etc. a singularly small percentage of them ended up living in states that had low taxes as opposed to living in high-tax states that happened to have the jobs, and that maybe that this was pretty hypocritical if Low Taxes were as important a hill to die on as everyone said it was…

  79. 79.

    voldemortsgirl

    May 6, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    Where were the tea parties when Bush passed the bailout plan? Until one wingnut answers the question honestly, I would disregard every other statement that they make.

  80. 80.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 6, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    @Chuck Butcher: Dang, dude. You really DID piss off your sister. Why is it that when we on the left point out the stupidity of the people on the right, we get told that we are hate-mongering?

    The family reunions must be fun.

  81. 81.

    cs

    May 6, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    For the Ron Paul wing of the tea party / Republican Party, the only truly grassroots part of it, they were in heavy opposition to the Bush bailout. They were also as deeply opposed to the various crimes of the Bush administration, far more so than the mainstream Democratic politicos, so they get a pass.

    There’s no excuses for the rest of that group.

    As a side note, someday someone will have to catalogue the positions of various, normally obnoxious, right wing groups during the Bush Era. For groups such as the Birchers or the Eagle Forum, you’ll find them to the left of mainstream Democrats on the civil liberties problems Bush created. Always found that kinda interesting.

  82. 82.

    Joshua Norton

    May 6, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    You know why there are no Republicans in the new Star Trek movie?

    Because it’s set in the future.

  83. 83.

    NutellaonToast

    May 6, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Anyone wanna bother pointing out that denial is a stage of grief, and itself has no stages? I can has metaphor?

  84. 84.

    cs

    May 6, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    As for libertarians (LP or otherwise), not sure why the outlook on them has to be purely black and white.

    Sure they’re wrong on a lot of economic issues, but right on others. More importantly, I think their positions on civil liberties are dead on correct and they’re willing to take the right positions on and do so loudly. We could use a lot more people like that.

  85. 85.

    Shinobi

    May 6, 2009 at 5:35 pm

    Judging from the left’s hysterical reaction, something really big must have happened.

    This is completely correct, our hysterical laughter was a clear reaction to a really big joke.

  86. 86.

    Martian Buddy

    May 6, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    @jon: In the wingnut version of history, DFHs lost the Vietnam war for us by waving some signs around and spitting on troops. They expect to have the same success by brandishing teabags for the cameras.

  87. 87.

    Chuck Butcher

    May 6, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    The family reunions must be fun

    She is actually a very nice person, you just love them and let it go at that. Or – stay away from them. She got about 7 yrs of that for not being willing to quit trying to turn me into a Christian, she finally knocked off with that.

  88. 88.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 6, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    @Chuck Butcher: Then you are better at familial relationships than am I. I rely heavily on don’t ask, don’t tell.

  89. 89.

    Dennis-SGMM

    May 6, 2009 at 6:34 pm

    Kibbe probably “grapples” with his dingleberries and boogers as well.

  90. 90.

    joe from Lowell

    May 6, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    No doubt, this Kibble person spent September 2008 insisting that liberals were panicked about Sarah Palin.

    Apparently, they continue to have the same misinterpretation of our loud guffaws.

    You just keep telling yourself that, Mr. Kibble. Whatever gets you through the night.

  91. 91.

    Thankovsky

    May 6, 2009 at 8:16 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:
    LOL, I may have been a little overly-blunt there, so allow me to add a couple disclaimers:

    1, I was fat for most of my life, from childhood until about halfway through my Masters program. I managed to lose a LOT of weight in the last couple years, but I’m very, very used to seeing myself as a fat person. So I can be a little overly-blunt on the issue. I don’t mean any harm by it, so I’m sorry if I offended you or anyone else by saying what I did. What can I say, I’m a dumbass guy. ;)

    2, I thought Janeane Garofalo was hot before she lost weight, and after she lost weight. “Chubby” is not a negative for me. :p

    And you were right, by the way – she was never “fat.” Just chubby.

  92. 92.

    LD50

    May 6, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Libertarians: idiots who think that highways, bridges, law courts, and a non-Third-World economy are provided out of thin air by the Magical Thoughts Fairy.

    Don’t forget the other category of 21st-century libertarian, namely petulant white males who agree with about 90%+ of the GOP agenda, and who reliably vote GOP (if they vote and if there’s not a libertarian candidate), but who think “libertarian” sounds like a way cooler and more badass title than “conservative”.

    (as a misogynist Southern Baptist who thinks women shouldn’t have the vote, Vox Day is an extreme example of this.)

  93. 93.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 6, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    @Thankovsky: Ah, got it. It’s a knee-jerk reaction on my part when I hear a woman get called fat because of all the negativity surrounding the word. Thanks for the clarification.

  94. 94.

    Captain USA

    May 6, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    Can’t wait for American Freedom Day.

    I hope there’s big puppets!

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