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Looked a lot like Che Guevara

by DougJ|  May 27, 200910:15 am| 74 Comments

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Still not the J-Lo comparison, I’ve been hoping for, but it’s a start, from Powerline (via the Opinionator):

Che Guevara in robes.

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  1. 1.

    schrodinger's cat

    May 27, 2009 at 10:19 am

    What is so offensive about all these attacks is the notion that if you are not a white male, then you can’t possibly be the best person for the job and got where you are because of affirmative action.

  2. 2.

    Bob In Pacifica

    May 27, 2009 at 10:20 am

    I know it’s got a lot to do with the demographic I’ve moved into, but Sotomayor is the first SCOTUS judge I’ve ever considered getting down with in a, you know, carnal manner.

  3. 3.

    Michael

    May 27, 2009 at 10:26 am

    I know it’s got a lot to do with the demographic I’ve moved into, but Sotomayor is the first SCOTUS judge I’ve ever considered getting down with in a, you know, carnal manner.

    A friend of mine once observed that growing older just meant that there was a greater number of women that he could gawk at and and fantasize about.

  4. 4.

    Anton Sirius

    May 27, 2009 at 10:26 am

    This ended up way down at the bottom of the other thread, but a Volokh commentator said he thought Sotomayor looked like Noriega in drag…

  5. 5.

    The Other Steve

    May 27, 2009 at 10:26 am

    @Bob In Pacifica: Ok, that’s just sick. Some of us are under 60 years old.

  6. 6.

    The Grand Panjandrum

    May 27, 2009 at 10:26 am

    Michael Goldfarb–or as I like to call him, “He Who Refuses To Be Dipped In The Water”–is running full throttle nonsense today.

    Sotomayor may have changed her views since her college days, though her record obviously indicates consistency, but perhaps what’s most striking is that on the issue of diversity, Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl — that is, only by having a black president, an Hispanic justice, a female secretary of State, and Bozo the Clown as vice president will the United States become a true “vanguard of societal ideas and changes.”

    That line of reasoning probably won’t convince many independents, women or Hispanics to jump on the GOP bandwagon. But then again who among us is pure enough to be a Real Republican?

    (via Sullivan)

  7. 7.

    Ash Can

    May 27, 2009 at 10:30 am

    Che Guevara in robes.

    Oh yes. This. More of this, please. This is the kind of thing that’s most effective in making Mr. and Ms. Average American see these right-wing morans as bugfuck, straight-jacket-and-padded-cell insane. Keep it coming, Powerline. Keep digging that hole.

  8. 8.

    schrodinger's cat

    May 27, 2009 at 10:32 am

    If Obama has an opportunity to nominate another Supreme Court justice, he should nominate Tunch. Feline Americans currently are not represented on the bench at all, and this has to change.

  9. 9.

    JGabriel

    May 27, 2009 at 10:33 am

    @The Grand Panjandrum:

    Michael Goldfarb … is running full throttle nonsense today.

    And the sun rose in the east?

    .

  10. 10.

    eric

    May 27, 2009 at 10:35 am

    If I had the time, I would expand on a much larger point: there is no real liberal agenda to be carried out by the Court. Instead, it is the more destructive conservative agenda that requires a conservative court. Basically, the modestly progressive judical agenda has been accomplished. A real progressive Court is not going to happen because law schools and big law firms do not produce true progressives that might alter supreme court jurisprudence. For the most part, the Court’s job is done and if it made no more sweeping pronouncements, most of us would be happy. The great expansion of the Commerce Clause is over and segregation is no longer possible.

    As a result, the Court really matters to the Right becuase they have to do stuff — reverse the 60s. To the Left (and most Americans), the Court no longer really matters (other than Roe).

    You can argue over whether the Court really matters on civil liberties, but you are really talking about the court undoing rather than doing things. Until we reach a tipping point of undoing, the Left and most of America will see this as much ado over nothing.

    eric

  11. 11.

    Incertus

    May 27, 2009 at 10:37 am

    I completely missed the part where Judge Sotomayor had people lined up and shot for a lack of ideological purity. I’m sure Powerline has a link to that story, since they were blog of the year and all, right?

  12. 12.

    dmsilev

    May 27, 2009 at 10:39 am

    Che Guevara in robes.

    I’m guessing that most Americans know the name Che only from T-shirts worn by college students and so forth.

    -dms

  13. 13.

    Evinfuilt

    May 27, 2009 at 10:40 am

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    If Obama has an opportunity to nominate another Supreme Court justice, he should nominate Tunch. Feline Americans currently are not represented on the bench at all, and this has to change.

    More intelligence than Thomas, sounds like a win-win to me.

  14. 14.

    Ned R.

    May 27, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Meantime, given the title of this post and the news from GM today, there really is panic in Detroit.

  15. 15.

    schrodinger's cat

    May 27, 2009 at 10:44 am

    @Evinfuilt:
    Also if that happens, will Wingnuttia rail against kittens?

  16. 16.

    Agi

    May 27, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Benicio Del Toro in robes?

  17. 17.

    Ash

    May 27, 2009 at 10:44 am

    So wait, eventually my 16 year old brother is going to wear an artsy t-shirt with her face plastered all over it in the hopes that it will make him look cool?

  18. 18.

    AkaDad

    May 27, 2009 at 10:47 am

    I disagree, Sonia and Che aren’t comparable. Che is clearly more conservative.

  19. 19.

    DougJ

    May 27, 2009 at 10:47 am

    Meantime, given the title of this post and the news from GM today, there really is panic in Detroit.

    Thanks for getting the rather obscure reference.

  20. 20.

    JD Rhoades

    May 27, 2009 at 10:53 am

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    What is so offensive about all these attacks is the notion that if you are not a white male, then you can’t possibly be the best person for the job and got where you are because of affirmative action.

    That is apparently exactly the tack the GOP has decided to take, rather than an examination of her judicial record (which appears to be pretty centrist). I guess they decided they don’t need women and Hispanics after all. Heh.

  21. 21.

    Tom Hilton

    May 27, 2009 at 11:00 am

    Yeah, I noticed that one too. I imagine the thought process: “Hugo Chavez in robes? Fidel Castro? Daniel Ortega? Nah, stick with the classics–Che Guevara!”

  22. 22.

    Adrienne

    May 27, 2009 at 11:03 am

    DUDE. I SO called this yesterday…. From the “The Sotomayor Pick” post:

    However, the point is not really to win. The point is to extract their pound of flesh. The point is to wound to the point of delegitimizing Sotomayer (and by extension, Obama) before she ever puts on the robe, much less presides over a case. The point is to brand her, permanently, as a dumb, left-wing sociaIistic dirty fucking activist hippie who’s the second coming of a gay liberal Che Guevara

    I’d say that they have now hit on EVERY one of the above and it’s only day two.

    What do I win?

  23. 23.

    eric

    May 27, 2009 at 11:03 am

    I posted this at Benen’s place and thought I would make the same point here:

    for the hard core progressives amoung us (me) and the hard core pragmatics among us (me), this is why i am ok with a luke warm liberal agenda. Look at the utter craptacular stuff said about this mainstream judicial nominee and Obama in general — he is not even that threatening to the established order. Were he trying to repeal DADT and allow for federal recognition of gay marriage (the right thing to do), and were he going after single payer (the right thing to do) and if he were pushing for an absulte end to our two front wars (the right thing to do), this guy would be villified in a way that would make any reform impossible.

    Thus, because of the institutional constraints on marked social change in the liberal direction (wall street, MSM, congress), i am satisfied with what i get from Obama, provided that we give him gentle reminders now and again that progressive values matter. But, in trith, I think he knows them and i think he believes them, even if he cant do everything I want about making progressive ideals a reality. Is “Maria” the perfect progressive judge, no. Is she acceptable to my progressive sensibilities, yes. Such are the constraining initial conditions of American political reality.

    eric

  24. 24.

    Xenos

    May 27, 2009 at 11:03 am

    @DougJ: GM has never produced a diesel van, as far as I know. That is my best excuse for not catching the reference the first time around. One of my all-time favorite tunes, too.

    My 16 year old self would be appalled at me.

  25. 25.

    GambitRF

    May 27, 2009 at 11:08 am

    Based on what I’ve heard from the GOP over the past couple of days, they’re fully convinced that all of Sotomayor’s court decisions consist of her turning in a piece of loose leaf with “KILL WHITEY” repeatedly written messily in crayon.

  26. 26.

    Punchy

    May 27, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Who the hell is Che Ginobli or whoever?

  27. 27.

    Violet

    May 27, 2009 at 11:10 am

    Sheesh, the wingnuts always go to eleven, don’t they?

    There is no nuance in Wingnuttia. Someone leans a little in a direction they don’t like? Wham! Smack ’em down. Sotomayor isn’t a judge with opinions that lean more leftward than theirs, but Che Guevara in robes, Marx in a wig, and probably, if they thought about it, the reincarnation of Pontius Pilate.

    Must they always bring a nuclear warhead to the fight?

  28. 28.

    Tom Hilton

    May 27, 2009 at 11:10 am

    @Schrödinger’s Cat: There’s a parallel argument they’re pushing implicitly, which is that if you are not a white male, then your view is inherently limited by your race and/or gender. White and male is the norm, and anyone outside of that norm has to be judged on their ability to assimilate the viewpoint of the norm.

  29. 29.

    Ash

    May 27, 2009 at 11:12 am

    @Punchy: He plays for the Trailblazers. Portland was the only place willing to deal with his shit.

  30. 30.

    Montysano

    May 27, 2009 at 11:17 am

    How about “Oscar Zeta Acosta in robes”? The Brown Buffalo on the bench; now that would be Change I Can Believe In.

  31. 31.

    MikeJ

    May 27, 2009 at 11:19 am

    White and male is the norm, and anyone outside of that norm has to be judged on their ability to assimilate the viewpoint of the norm.

    You know what I say to someone with that attitude? Vaffanculo.

  32. 32.

    AhabTRuler

    May 27, 2009 at 11:21 am

    If Obama has an opportunity to nominate another Supreme Court justice, he should nominate Tunch.

    Oh sure, nominate the mostly-white, male cat for the position. SBDD. Momo sez that her judicial temperament is vastly superior to his, but fears that her genetic abnormality will keep her from consideration for the position.

  33. 33.

    CapMidnight

    May 27, 2009 at 11:26 am

    a female secretary of State, and Bozo the Clown as vice president

    I thought we already tried that.

  34. 34.

    AnotherBruce

    May 27, 2009 at 11:27 am

    There’s a parallel argument they’re pushing implicitly, which is that if you are not a white male, then your view is inherently limited by your race and/or gender

    Shorter: We don’t like uppity brown people!

  35. 35.

    schrodinger's cat

    May 27, 2009 at 11:29 am

    a female secretary of State, and Bozo the Clown the Joker as vice president

    fixed.

  36. 36.

    Comrade Darkness

    May 27, 2009 at 11:31 am

    @Michael: A friend of mine once observed that growing older just meant that there was a greater number of women that he could gawk at and and fantasize about.
    Does this explain why really old men are always drooling a lot?

  37. 37.

    Laura W

    May 27, 2009 at 11:31 am

    @AhabTRuler: How about a black, obese, once-homeless, unwed, teenage mother who bullies as hobby?

  38. 38.

    Zifnab

    May 27, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Must they always bring a nuclear warhead to the fight?

    You go to the media with the weapons you have, not the weapons you wish you had.

    Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl—that is, only by having a black president, an Hispanic justice, a female secretary of State, and Bozo the Clown as vice president will the United States become a true “vanguard of societal ideas and changes.”

    Two things: First – gwha? A 21-year-old Hispanic girl? Where did that come from?

    Second – they went a really long way around the fence to avoid calling Joe Biden an old white guy.

  39. 39.

    schrodinger's cat

    May 27, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Shorter: We don’t like uppity brown people!

    The list of who they don’t like is already a mile long and seems to grow by the minute. I guess, this an excellent way to stay relevant as a political party.

  40. 40.

    Adrienne

    May 27, 2009 at 11:35 am

    I guess, this an excellent way to stay relevant as a political party.

    Yep. Especially considering that us pesky brown people will will actually be the majority in like 30 years.

    I say let ’em keep digging their way to obscurity because Obama’s sure gonna keep handing them shovels.

  41. 41.

    Scruffy McSnufflepuss

    May 27, 2009 at 11:39 am

    @DougJ:

    I was listening to Aladdin Sane in my car this morning. That’s a great album- thanks for referencing it!

  42. 42.

    schrodinger's cat

    May 27, 2009 at 11:40 am

    @Adrienne
    Aren’t women already a majority?

  43. 43.

    Hunter Gathers

    May 27, 2009 at 11:42 am

    @Montysano: As your attorney, I advise you to buy a motorcycle.

  44. 44.

    Cris

    May 27, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Michael Goldfarb (via @The Grand Panjandrum): a female secretary of State

    I’ve understood ever since that infamous Rick Sanchez exchange that Goldfarb is an utter dumbshit, but this kind of thing just emphasizes the fact. Does he not remember that the previous administration had not only a female Secretary of State, but a black female? Does he not remember the gushing over George W. Bush’s “most diverse cabinet in history”? Linda Chavez? Norman Mineta?

    Bah, why bother. These people have nothing but disdain for facts.

  45. 45.

    WingNutz

    May 27, 2009 at 11:44 am

    Clearly all you libtards suffer from Hispaniocentrism.

  46. 46.

    Ugh

    May 27, 2009 at 11:46 am

    On Mike Huckabee thinking her first name is Maria:

    She reads a plea and scrapes her knee
    Her robe has got a tear
    She waltzes on her way to Court
    And bristles on the stairs
    And underneath her robes
    She has Guevara in her laire
    I even heard her singing in the Court room

    She’s always late for argument
    But her reasoning is for real
    She’s always late for everything
    Except for Ally Mcbeal
    I hate to have to say it
    But I very firmly feel
    Maria’s [sic] not an asset to the Court room

    I’d like to say a word in her behalf
    Maria [sic] makes me laugh

    How do you oppose a judge like Maria [sic]?
    How does she view a cloud and pin it down?
    How do you find a case that defines Maria [sic]?
    A flibbertijibbet! A will-o’-the wisp! A noun!

    Many may like to plea and like to brief her
    Many may think she ought to understand
    But how do you ask for a stay
    And listen to all you say
    How do you keep a witness on her stand?

    Oh, how do you oppose a judge like Maria [sic]?
    How do you read her ruling in your hand?

    When I’m before her I’m confused
    Out of sorts and bemused
    And I never know what to argue
    Unpredictable as weather
    She’s a lefty like Dave Souter
    She’s a liberal! She’s an activist! She’s a lamb!

    She’d outlawyer any lawyerer
    Drive an expert from his expertise
    She could throw a whirling dervish out of whirl
    She is liberal! She likes Che!
    She’s a riddle! She’s a gay!
    She’s a headache! She’s an angel!
    She’s a girl!

    How do you oppose a judge like Maria [sic]?
    How does she view a cloud and pin it down?
    How do you find a case that defines Maria[sic]?
    A flibbertijibbet! A will-o’-the wisp! A noun!

    Many a thing you know you’d like to tell her
    Many a thing she ought to understand
    But how can she issue a stay
    And listen to all you say
    How do you control a judge’s stand

    Oh, how do you oppose a judge like Maria [sic]?
    How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?

  47. 47.

    wasabi gasp

    May 27, 2009 at 11:48 am

    This is good news for Clarence Thomas’ moldy old basement-boxed whimpering law degree.

  48. 48.

    burnspbesq

    May 27, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Rosen’s latest on Sotomayor:

    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2009/05/26/the-sotomayor-nomination.aspx

    Anyone who back-pedals this well should be playing cornerback in the NFL.

  49. 49.

    AhabTRuler

    May 27, 2009 at 11:51 am

    @Laura W: Ah, but it is clear from that photo that such an appointment would be no less than a quid pro quo for her support during the election!

    Momo is clearly free of such taint due to the fact that she hadn’t been born when Obama was elected (but OMG, what about birth certificate?).

  50. 50.

    camchuck

    May 27, 2009 at 11:53 am

    @GambitRF:

    they’re fully convinced that all of Sotomayor’s court decisions consist of her turning in a piece of loose leaf with “KILL WHITEY” repeatedly written messily in crayon.

    So the SCOTUS pick was really Michelle’s call. /wingnut

  51. 51.

    AhabTRuler

    May 27, 2009 at 11:53 am

    @burnspbesq: Of course he backpedals. He’s done his job of introducing the idea, now he can disown it and call it a bastard.

  52. 52.

    Dennis-SGMM

    May 27, 2009 at 11:56 am

    The outfit that still idolizes a dead guy who was president nearly thirty years ago attempts to vilify a person by comparing her to a radical of fifty years ago. The ubiquitousness of their outreach is a thing of wonder.

  53. 53.

    Adrienne

    May 27, 2009 at 11:58 am

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    Yes – but you wouldn’t know it from our lack of adequate representation in the halls of power – SCOTUS, Congress, cabinet level officials, military generals, state government (legislative and governorships), etc. WTF is up with THAT?

  54. 54.

    Martin

    May 27, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Well, today’s meme is that she’s a racist.

    My observation as someone who pays more attention to politics than the average person, but not so much that I know why they are calling her racist, is that the right considers her a racist because she isn’t white.

    The GOP message to the casual observer today is that non-whites are racist.

  55. 55.

    zzyzx

    May 27, 2009 at 12:07 pm

    @Adrienne: Hey, my state (WA) has two female senators and a female governor so we’re doing our bit.

  56. 56.

    Martin

    May 27, 2009 at 12:10 pm

    Yes – but you wouldn’t know it from our lack of adequate representation in the halls of power –

    As any strict constitutionalist will note, it says “All men are created equal”. Quit trying to twist the founders words to serve your own social!st agenda.

  57. 57.

    dmsilev

    May 27, 2009 at 12:12 pm

    @Martin:

    The GOP message to the casual observer today is that non-whites are racist.

    The GOP and the conservative movement have more experience at projection than the staff at the local multiplex.

    -dms

  58. 58.

    GregB

    May 27, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    What about two Jews and a cripple?

    Obviously Obama isn’t committed to diversity like St. Ronnie of the Wood Splitters.

    -G

  59. 59.

    GregB

    May 27, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    On a footnote.

    NH has a majority female state senate. An American first.

    -G

  60. 60.

    r€nato

    May 27, 2009 at 12:19 pm

    Can you imagine the OUTRAAAAAAAAGE on the right if Scalia had been called, “Mussolini in robes”?

  61. 61.

    eric

    May 27, 2009 at 12:29 pm

    @r€nato: how about a pope in a robe?

  62. 62.

    JD Rhoades

    May 27, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    @Martin:

    Well, today’s meme is that she’s a racist.

    And that will probably evolve from a meme into a part of her name when spoken by any wingnut, as in” “The racist Sonia Sotomayor…”

  63. 63.

    justmy2

    May 27, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    You already won DougJ…

    the new york post headlined their story yesterday..

    “Sonia from the block”….want a screenshot?

  64. 64.

    Trollhattan

    May 27, 2009 at 1:03 pm

    The good news about having Robed Che(tm) on the Court is she’ll be able to clean and reassemble her gun under said robe while listening to Scalia bloviate, and the liberal wing will totally kick ass against the conservative wing in their paintball team-building sessions.

    “Eat some blue splatters, Sissy Thomas!”

  65. 65.

    Violet

    May 27, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    @Martin:

    Well, today’s meme is that she’s a racist.

    Yep. Just had the radio on in the car and Rush Limbaugh was screaming these exact words. With a nasty tone in his voice and with a few more creative descriptions of her as well. The tone is key. It conveys the sense of outrage at her getting this nomination because of “quotas”, “entitlement”, skin color and a vagina. The tone, almost more than the words, is the truly scary bit. These people are filled with anger and hate.

    The GOP message to the casual observer today is that non-whites are racist.

    Yep. Pretty much. In the three or four minutes I was listening to Limbaugh, that’s kind of what I heard.

  66. 66.

    burnspbesq

    May 27, 2009 at 1:16 pm

    @Violet:

    You lasted four minutes? Wow. I’m in awe. I can’t take more than 45 seconds.

  67. 67.

    buggy ding dong

    May 27, 2009 at 1:27 pm

    What’s the over/under on when Rush uses a Speedy Gonzales sound clip when discussing Sotomayor?

  68. 68.

    Comrade Kevin

    May 27, 2009 at 1:58 pm

    Che Guevara in robes.

    Powerline: Pol Pot with a blog.

  69. 69.

    Violet

    May 27, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Was waiting for the weather forecast to come on. Toughed it out.

  70. 70.

    asiangrrlMN

    May 27, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    @Laura W: Annie is NOT obese–she just has fluffy bones. I’d vote for her in a second!

    You guys are cracking me up with this thread. Thanks. I needed that.

  71. 71.

    Anne Laurie

    May 27, 2009 at 3:16 pm

    “White and male is the norm, and anyone outside of that norm has to be judged on their ability to assimilate the viewpoint of the norm.”
    You know what I say to someone with that attitude? Vaffanculo.

    Yeah, but can Sotomayor do the appropriate hand gestures to a reporter, while on camera? Because that would be change Justice ‘Fat Nino’ Scalia could believe in!…

    Yeah, right. If Sotomayor was half as obnoxious as Scalia, there wouldn’t be enough fainting couches in all the Beltway to accomodate the Media Village Idiots. David Brooks might actually, physically pass out with the back of his hand pressed to his forehead — as long as he could do so on a televised national news feed.

  72. 72.

    2th@nayle

    May 27, 2009 at 3:19 pm

    @Bob In Pacifica: What a hurtful bastard! Somewhere Justice Ginsburg is crying her little eyes out!

  73. 73.

    Tax Analyst

    May 27, 2009 at 3:58 pm

    AkaDad
    I disagree, Sonia and Che aren’t comparable. Che is clearly more conservative.

    Didn’t they used to have a variety show back in the late 60’s or early 70’s. You know, they sang, “I’ve Got You, Babe”?

  74. 74.

    Phenobarbarella

    May 27, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Shoot, Homie, that was the best “Panic In Detroit” reference I think I’ve ever seen. ;-)

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