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Thursday Night Open Thread

by John Cole|  September 24, 20097:53 pm| 290 Comments

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I’ve been informed that I should post the Thursday night open thread early because all the geeks are going to rush off to watch Flash Forward. Duly noted.

Here is the Thursday Night recipe:

1. Greek Pasta w/Shrimp
2. Salad – add some black olives, feta and Greek dressing to continue the theme
3. Greek Style Green Beans
4. Honey of a Pie

Keep the dictionary entries coming.

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  1. 1.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 7:56 pm

    I’m trying a new dieting technique. It’s called not eating. At least a supper, and only breakfast of Quick Oats, with crushed pineapple and a soy protein shake. And a snack just before bedtime. I will call it Stuck’s Jiffy Diet or Die Tryin’

  2. 2.

    jl

    September 24, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    For a moment I thought that cat was Tunch, but it couldn’t be, since it looked like he was interacting with mortal beings on a fairly equal basis, which he rarely deigns to do. And, in the close up, yep, it is some other cat.

    So, what pet pick is this? There a story, or is it just a random cat shot for our enjoyment?

  3. 3.

    demimondian

    September 24, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Randoid — a true follower of the 20th century disciple of Nietzsche, Ayn Rand. So named due to the almost robotic loyalty these people exhibit towards Rand’s memory. Can be distinguished from Glibertarians by believing that “They’ve got theirs and you’ve got yours, thank you,” instead of the more expansive Glibertarian philosophy “What’s yours is mine; what’s mine’s me own.”

  4. 4.

    Delia

    September 24, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    Well, finally. I haven’t been able to reach this site all day. That’s a pretty impressive pile of kitteh there. I have one on my lap. I think she’s trying to push the laptop off.

  5. 5.

    cleek

    September 24, 2009 at 8:05 pm

    i thawed a pork tenderloin for tonight. when i opened the baggie, the thing smelled like ass.

    so, instead, we had What Else Is In The Fridge Fried Rice !

    mmm… adequate.

  6. 6.

    MikeJ

    September 24, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    @demimondian:
    That’s pretty unfair to Nietzsche.

  7. 7.

    demkat620

    September 24, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Well, I was watching Book of Blood on scifi but I’ll give this flash forward a chance.

  8. 8.

    Person of Choler

    September 24, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    Here’s the latest on the guy Obama wants to run Honduras:

    http://www.miamiherald.com/honduras/story/1248828.html

  9. 9.

    Tokyokie

    September 24, 2009 at 8:07 pm

    OK, how many kitties are in that pile?

  10. 10.

    demimondian

    September 24, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Conservative–a hypocritical Glibertarian adherent of the philosophy “All taxes are bad unless the Republicans can take credit. All perversions are perverse unless a Republican is engaging. Our troops lives are sacred except in a Republican war.”

  11. 11.

    Makewi

    September 24, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Any Ohio voters here going to pitch in to help Traficant run for Congress on his “kick the IRS in the crotch” platform?

  12. 12.

    cokane

    September 24, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    fuck the steelers

  13. 13.

    cleek

    September 24, 2009 at 8:09 pm

    about the KY Hanging Man… he was not hanging when found.

  14. 14.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 8:10 pm

    @Tokyokie:

    Haw! you read my mind, I was going to say that pile of cat could be a good brain teaser. I say 3, but maybe 4/

    And for Ash Can,. I think, just got Tarvosky make of Solaris in mail from NF . Some weirded out movie viewing tonight.

  15. 15.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 8:12 pm

    Nice cats, Cole. Nice of you to put up the goddamn open thread early. Not that I have anything to say, really.

  16. 16.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    @cleek:

    He was asphixiated though and likely cheap rope caused it to slufff some. Doesn’t mean much I think..

  17. 17.

    Violet

    September 24, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Don’t forget to vote for Bitsy!

  18. 18.

    Danton

    September 24, 2009 at 8:15 pm

    We had Ma Po Tofu… mmmmm…. and Sichuan cold cucumber salad.

  19. 19.

    ellaesther

    September 24, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Well, I see that “We’re doing it live!” isn’t in the dictionary…!

    We’re doing it live: Said in expression of mock rage over real technical difficulties; see: Bill O’Reilly’s all too real rage over telepromter problems that led to much cursing and repetitive shouting of the words “We’re doing it live!”

  20. 20.

    Punchy

    September 24, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Why in hell is Ole Miss ranked FOURTH?

  21. 21.

    abo gato

    September 24, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Yay Fall!! **Does the happy dance around the kitchen** FINALLY, some relief here in South Texas. First day of Fall and we got a cool front and RAIN! Can’t believe the difference it makes in everyone’s attitudes. It’s been cool since then and rainy everyday.

    Here’s what I’m making for dinner tonight:

    Tortilla Soup

    1 medium onion, chopped
    4 or 5 cloves garlic, chopped
    a bit of olive oil

    Saute the onion and garlic in the oil for a few minutes till soft.

    Add 1 quart carton good chicken stock
    1 can diced tomatoes with the juice
    1 small can diced green chilies
    3 boneless skinless chicken thighs
    1 teaspoon ground cumin
    a bit of salt

    Bring to a boil then lower the heat and simmer for maybe 20 minutes. Take the chicken out and roughly chop, then add back into the soup. Keep it on a low heat.

    Take 3 corn tortillas and just shred them with your hands and drop the pieces into the soup. They will melt into it and give it a great flavor and a little thickening.

    Take another 4 corn tortillas and cut them into strips about 3/8 of an inch wide or so. Fry them in batches in about an inch of oil heated in a saucepan. They will crisp up very quickly if the oil is hot. Drain them on paper towels.

    Take an avocado and remove the peel and pit and chop into a rough dice.
    Chop some cilantro.

    Serve the soup in bowls with the fried strips, avocado and cilantro as add-ins.

    Yum. Cool weather makes me want soup everyday.

    Now, once you’ve got the chicken chopped and added back in and before the tortilla pieces get put into the soup is the time I sit back here and look at the laptop, do a crossword, have a cocktail. The soup is just in a waiting phase that can last as long as I want it to. So, no rush is needed to make this happen.

  22. 22.

    smiley

    September 24, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    @cleek:

    i thawed a pork tenderloin for tonight. when i opened the baggie, the thing smelled like ass.

    Sounds perfect for a Greek-themed meal. (sorry Greeks)

    @Punchy:

    Why in hell is Ole Miss ranked FOURTH?

    Thanks for reminding me. I take it they’re getting their asses kicked?

  23. 23.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 24, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    I am having spinach and roasted garlic pizza (why yes, I AM single, why do you ask?) washed down with some tasty, albeit cheap, red wine with a cute name and cuter animal on the label.

    I am aware of all oenophilic traditions.

  24. 24.

    lamh31

    September 24, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Things to make you go hmmmmmm????
    Bet that dumbass Gregory on Meet The Press won’t ask Patterson about that.
    New York Democrats urged W.H. to push David Paterson

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27511.html#ixzz0S4bYF9Em

    The White House asked New York Gov. David Paterson to step aside at least in part because the administration was asked to intervene by members of Congress and state legislators who raised serious alarms about a potential Paterson drag on the ticket in 2010.,,

  25. 25.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    September 24, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    So the Ravens are number 1 in the ESPN Week 3 power rankings but ya really can’t trust any power rankings list that has Atlanta, New Orleans, Minnesota and the Jets in the top 10, amirite?

  26. 26.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    HEY, LISTEN UP PEOPLE.

    Lanny Davis wants everyone to be NICER to each other.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/23/lanny-davis-wants-everyon_n_296172.html

    Anyone have a GODDAMN FUCKING PROBLEM with that?

  27. 27.

    NobodySpecial

    September 24, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    S!N – the blog Sadly, No!

  28. 28.

    smiley

    September 24, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    @smiley: WTF? Ole Miss is ahead (so far).

  29. 29.

    Keith G

    September 24, 2009 at 8:32 pm

    Flash Forward is looking good for a TV adaption that only uses the book as an inspiration. But can ABC keep itself from making this into an elaborate soap opera.

  30. 30.

    Common Sense

    September 24, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    This show sucks. The characters have no depth or believability.

  31. 31.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    September 24, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    @Violet:

    Oops forgot today, will do it now.

  32. 32.

    gnomedad

    September 24, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    Re: “Some people say”

    I still maintain that, whatever the origin, it was most significantly used by W to attribute straw man arguments to “libruls”.

    Also, I think it should be noted that the object of “nutpicking” was typically to imply that extreme, offensive, or crazy views were mainstream “librul”.

  33. 33.

    ellaesther

    September 24, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    @Violet: Thank you! I have been forgetting, but I went and did it now.

  34. 34.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    September 24, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Canuckistan – Canada.

    FEMA Internment Camps – The supposed destination of all those who don’t fall down and worship Obama.

    fReichtard – A fear-driven (or mongering) right winger. Uses threats of terrorist attacks to justify the suspension of civil liberties, reason and logic.

    If You’ve Done Nothing Wrong You’ve Got Nothing to Hide! – One of the many mantras favored by neo-cons. Used to justify G.W. Bush’s policy of undermining the U.S. Constitution. i.e., “So what if the government taps your phone? If you’ve done nothing wrong you’ve got nothing to hide.”

    TalEvangical – An evangelical Christian who is one HEX vest short of being impossible to distinguish from a member of the Taliban.

    If you do[n’t] ______, the terrorists will win! – A mocking reference to GOP claims that failing to support President Bush would result in the U.S. being invaded and defeated by 5,000 Taliban members who sail across the Atlantic in rubber life boats. See also: Sharia Law.

    Two kinds of fruit – From Rush Limbaugh’s imaginary Gitmo menu.

    Why do you hate America/the troops? – Originally a mocking reference to right wing accusations. Later used as all purpose random snark. i.e, “I had a really rough commute today.” “Why do you hate America?” Rapidly being replaced by random accusations of communism/s o c i al ism.

  35. 35.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    Looks like the House is shaping up nicely for passing a good HC Reform bill with a robust Public Option and Blue Dog whip counts less than a dozen who will vote nay.

    “There was some suggestion that there were 20,” Herseth Sandlin said. “There clearly are not. From the numbers that I have seen, although not everyone has submitted the surveys, even if they had and they all said yes it wouldn’t be 20. Right now it’s less than a dozen.”

    The Great Red Queen has put her foot down and the troops are falling into formation. On to the Senate. Then conference and presto. Hopefully.

  36. 36.

    cleek

    September 24, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    Whitey Tape – The silver bullet that was going to completely flatten the wicked and wily Barack Obama once and for all, once it became public – which it never did, because it never existed, despite the hilariously credulous assurances of King PUMA, Larry Johnson.

    He still holds onto the hope that it’s out there.

  37. 37.

    uila

    September 24, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Am loving the dictionary. In regards to “Big Media Matt”, how about a cross-reference to “trust fund scumbag“.

    Nothing against Matt of course, just a nod to some quality trolling.

    Also: “What digby said”

  38. 38.

    burnspbesq

    September 24, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    @Makewi:

    Can convicted felons be elected to Congress?

    Trafficant needs to get over himself. He was caught dead to rights, got a fair trial, and was convicted by a jury of his peers. He did it. He cheated on his taxes, which means that he screwed every one of us chumps law-abiding citizens who don’t cheat.

    He’s a gallon of despicable in a quart container. Fuck him. I would support Michelle Malkin if she were running for Congress against Trafficant.

  39. 39.

    gnomedad

    September 24, 2009 at 8:45 pm

    Agent Flowbee, please. I’m not well-informed enough to do it.

  40. 40.

    RedKitten

    September 24, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    I made chili with turkey, black beans and corn, and a side salad. Not bad for 15 minutes’ work. :)

    I’m now debating whether to stay up to watch the Thursday night NBC lineup, or go to bed, as my tiny, angry overlord will probably be awake in another 2 hours, seeking his next offering.

  41. 41.

    AkaDad

    September 24, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    I’d like to thank FSM that none of my girlfriends had an ass that smelled like bad pork.

  42. 42.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    Flash Forward is looking good for a TV adaption that only uses the book as an inspiration. But can ABC keep itself from making this into an elaborate soap opera?

    NO

  43. 43.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Man arrested in alleged attempt to bomb Dallas skyscraper

    Seems to be a rash of these lately, and all of them scooped up by the terrorist loving pals around with em Hussein Obama
    stealth Mooslim and his commified FBI. Where’s the gratitude wingnuts?

  44. 44.

    demkat620

    September 24, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Oh my god! They remade V.

    Why? For the love of all that is holy why?

  45. 45.

    tc125231

    September 24, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    @uila: Actually, I liked a lot of these terms better before I looked at the definitions. The whole thing reminds me of a Wallace Stevens poem:

    “I do not know which to prefer,
    The beauty of inflections
    Or the beauty of innuendoes,
    The blackbird whistling
    Or just after”

    Wallace Stevens, “Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird “

  46. 46.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 8:53 pm

    Tuna sammich on spelt bread. Kale. The best gluten-free mini chocolate cookies evah. And now, grapes. That, my friends, is the dinner of champions.

    By the way, I was gonna save this for the late night open thread, but since SOMEONE has been lax about those lately, I’m going to ask here:

    Anyone NOT like Taxi Driver?

    Ducks and flees the room

  47. 47.

    John Cole

    September 24, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    So ABC is remaking V. You know you are getting old when all the songs you used to listen to while drinking as a teen are in car commercials and networks are remaking shows that you watched as an original. Wasn’t V on NBC, though?

    Also, isn’t that the hooker from Firefly in the new V?

  48. 48.

    WereBear

    September 24, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    My best to your little guy, RedKitten.

    Don’t know if it’s dictionary material, but the famous Rumsfeld line: “You go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you have,” has had many wonderful changes on it as a riposte for many uses.

  49. 49.

    smiley

    September 24, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    @Punchy: To answer your question more directly, it’s because of the coach’s reputation at Arkansas (wide-open offense, lots of points), the players they’ve recruited, and the QB, Jevon Snead, who is widely thought to be the second best QB in the SEC, behind Tebow . (Interestingly, some people say that the third best QB in the SEC is Florida backup John Brantley).

  50. 50.

    Comrade Jake

    September 24, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Is it just me or are we actually seeing something resembling leadership from Nancy Pelosi on HCR?

  51. 51.

    Warren Terra

    September 24, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Oh, one more definition:
    Whitey Tape A videotape that Agent Flowbee promised would emerge in the 2008 primary campaign, and then in the 2008 general election, and that he promised would reveal the hatred Michelle Obama secretly harbors for White people, from an outburst she allegedly made at a Trinity Church conference. The existence of the tape was much disputed, but when an example did eventually emerge it was found not to be that shocking..

  52. 52.

    Genine

    September 24, 2009 at 9:00 pm

    Flash Forward is starting now. (Mountain time) I’ll have to make my own assessment.

  53. 53.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 9:01 pm

    @John Cole:

    That’s Annora, and she ain’t no dern Hooker, she’s a companion you brute.

  54. 54.

    Betsy

    September 24, 2009 at 9:02 pm

    @RedKitten:
    Glad to hear that you’re all well. Congrats on the 7-hour stretch! That is a major accomplishment. I hope it is the only the first of many that will happen this fall and winter.

  55. 55.

    Warren Terra

    September 24, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Is it just me or are we actually seeing something resembling leadership from Nancy Pelosi on HCR?

    This isn’t really fair. Nancy basically gets what needed out of the House, and has done so fairly consistently. She has to be careful not to get too far ahead of the Senate, is all, and the Senate is just a disaster. But what has she failed to get done that, had she delivered it, had the remotest chance of passing the Senate?

    I mean, I wish she’d done better (or, heck, much of anything, and I still wish she would do better) on FISA, on Habeas, on State Secrets Privilege, and while I’m at it on impeaching Cheney and Dubya, but the rate limiting step was always mutually reinforcing obstruction from the Senate and the Village, not any spinelessness she might suffer from.

  56. 56.

    Comrade Jake

    September 24, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    @John Cole:

    I used to love V. When I was thirteen.

  57. 57.

    RedKitten

    September 24, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    @John Cole: I’m rather intrigued by the remake of “V”. Hell, it could wind up being as decent as the remake of BSG, if we’re lucky.

    Mind you, I was 9 years old when “V” first aired, and I remember having nightmares for a week when I saw one of the aliens eating a live mouse.

  58. 58.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    September 24, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Also:

    “If only they had guns” – Confederate Yankee’s response whenever some one flips their wig and shoots up a store, school, mall &c.

    Lapel Pin – A source of great obsession on the right. On an elected Republican, it is the equivalent of a brown hanky in the back pocket.

    Liberal Plant – The perpetrator of any misbehavior at GOP gatherings.

    Liberal Setup – Whenever an elected Republican is caught doing something bad, he was set up by the liberals. (See Foley, Mark.)

    Lord of the Stance – Former U.S. Senator Larry Craig (see Wide Stance)

    Red State Strike Farce – Coined by DougJ[?] so he needs to define it.

  59. 59.

    Common Sense

    September 24, 2009 at 9:04 pm

    Not impressed. The best part of the pilot was the first ten minutes, followed by the preview of next week’s episode.

    FWIW the V preview looked kickass. Never seen the original though.

  60. 60.

    Bad Horse's Filly

    September 24, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    My apologies. The recipe for the Honey Pie didn’t copy over correctly to the blog. It’s correct now:

    Honey of a Pie

    Personally I’ll be watching Bones. Oh and “Pile ‘o’ kitties” how cute!

  61. 61.

    Punchy

    September 24, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    This could be the most boring football game I’ve ever watched.

  62. 62.

    testing

    September 24, 2009 at 9:05 pm

    testing.. 1.. 2. I apologize.

  63. 63.

    Svensker

    September 24, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Anyone NOT like Taxi Driver?

    Ducks and flees the room

    Me, me and me. I loathe almost everything Scorsese’s ever done, including breathing. Except the Last Waltz.

  64. 64.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    @Comrade Jake: It’s not just you. I think she’s had it up to here and is not going to take it any longer. Good for her.

    Svensker, oh, thank god, I could kiss you–in a strictly platonic way, of course. I just watched it for the first time, and I was… underwhelmed, to say the least.

  65. 65.

    smiley

    September 24, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    @RedKitten: I love corn in chili. I’ve only started adding it recently (~last 2 years) but it really adds. Corn also adds well to okra and tomatoes, and even meat loaf. I love corn and I’m not even from corn country. I love the favor and sweetness. I’m tempted to make a peanut butter and creamed corn sandwich. Or maybe a corn omelet. Or maybe spaghetti and corn….

  66. 66.

    Svensker

    September 24, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    OK, I heard there was an edit button. ‘pparently not.

    Also, anybody else blaming GOS + Sully’s for the site being down?

  67. 67.

    Corner Stone

    September 24, 2009 at 9:07 pm

    @Genine: You mean Cheese Forward?

  68. 68.

    Corner Stone

    September 24, 2009 at 9:10 pm

    @smiley: Corn?..interrobang..?! In CHILI? ? ? ! ? !

    WTF? Get thee behind me Satan!!

  69. 69.

    pattonbt

    September 24, 2009 at 9:11 pm

    Had another dictionary thought…..

    “5 Years Alan!!!!! 5 Years!!”

    I am not smart enough to come up with a snarky definition, but I love that phrase and its idiocy.

  70. 70.

    Svensker

    September 24, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    @smiley:

    I love the favor and sweetness. I’m tempted to make a peanut butter and creamed corn sandwich. Or maybe a corn omelet. Or maybe spaghetti and corn

    One of the most delicious things I ever ate was coconut-corn ice cream at a Thai restaurant in L.A. It was basically a coconut sherbet with occasional frozen corn kernels. Sounds very odd, but the little textural surprise whenever you got one of the kernels was really fun, and the corn taste went beautifully with the coconut. Whodda thunk?

  71. 71.

    smiley

    September 24, 2009 at 9:12 pm

    @smiley: I can’t remember when corn did me a favor. WTF? After all I do for it.

  72. 72.

    Tommy

    September 24, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    If you enjoyed “The Corner” and “The Wire” be sure to check out the five-part documentary “Brick City” on Sundance. It offers a real-life look into the challenges faced by the residents of Newark NJ and the efforts of a Mayor and Chief of Police who are determined to turn the city around.

  73. 73.

    Punchy

    September 24, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    Wow, KIA motors is now naming cars after top fantasy football players. Talk about marketing genius.

    I give you…(drum roll)……the KIA Forte. I wonder if it runs for 3 yards than stops, and asks for water.

  74. 74.

    Corner Stone

    September 24, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    @Svensker:

    textural surprise

    This is totally how I’m gonna sell my next sexual encounter.

  75. 75.

    gwangung

    September 24, 2009 at 9:17 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck: Morena Baccarin is a goddess, anyway you look at her (and I like looking at her in any way I can….).(And I never saw that much of FIREFLY….)

  76. 76.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Anyone NOT like Taxi Driver?

    I definitely like it, but I prefer Mean Streets. I think the critical buzz over Taxi Driver has overshadowed the brilliance of Mean Streets.

    Clip from Mean Streets

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag9zbMV5URM

  77. 77.

    smiley

    September 24, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    @Corner Stone: Corn is a natural for chili. Try it. It’s good (but don’t add tooo much – just a bit).

  78. 78.

    Makewi

    September 24, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    Yes, there is nothing in the Constitution which would prevent it. That said, both the Senate and House have systems in place for expelling members.

  79. 79.

    A Thousand Faces

    September 24, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    So, lurker here. Used to randomly blog/motly lurk at Kos, circa 2003ish onward, but that place is mostly just full of a-holes who want just want to argue with someone! anyone! Good for election coverage though.

    This place is more my speed. Relatively smartass and lighthearted and focused on the absurdity of politics/media/conservative asshatery. Though sometimes (just sometimes, take it easy) a little too glib… like the folks at Reason… but not fucking dumb and assholey.

    Anyway, that’s a long intro. I usually breeze by posts this long. The reason I lurked for so long is that I was too lazy to “register” which I assumed was a drawn out process. Finally scrolled ALL the way to the bottom. Ha.

    So the reason I decided not to lurk anymore is because a. I’m drunk. b. I don’t like the definition of Burkean Bells. It’s oft used and the definition doesn’t capture any of the irony or hypocrisy at its core. I’ve always interpreted it to be used mostly ironically, when conservatives like Brooks are being hypocrites in invoking Burke to have a bullshit hissy fit over some “radical” thing a liberal is doing, while not having batted an eye at the far more radical undertakings during the Bush Presidency. So, yeah. That’s it. Your Burkean Bells definition is inadequate.

  80. 80.

    John Cole

    September 24, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck: All roads lead to a happy ending.

  81. 81.

    demkat620

    September 24, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Never seen the original though

    Here’s a tip. It was bad but I’m sure the Wolverines will like it.

  82. 82.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    @gwangung:

    You can watch all 14 episodes (or however many) of Firefly on Hulu.

  83. 83.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    Happy Birthday F. Scott Fitzgerald
    September 24, 1896 – December 21, 1940

    Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before us. It eluded us then, but that’s no matter — tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther… And one fine morning ——
    So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.

  84. 84.

    John Cole

    September 24, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    Should we change Balloon Juice Dictionary to Balloon Juice Lexicon?

  85. 85.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 9:25 pm

    @John Cole:

    All roads lead to a happy ending.

    Can’t argue with that:)

  86. 86.

    Svensker

    September 24, 2009 at 9:27 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    You could work in the coconut sherbet, too…

  87. 87.

    demimondian

    September 24, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    Correctin for the dictionary:

    FYWP- Fuck You, WordPress. Usually indicates that the writer has just lost a long and tedious screed that he or she viewed as a long, well-thought-out, incredibly witty post to the vagueries of WordPress Error. A particularly severe period of such posting failures will lead to remarks about “my favorite blog, WPE”, or “Wordpress ⟩ Error = Balloon Juice’s default front page” as well as long a tedious screeds directed to the blogpowers-that-be.

  88. 88.

    parksideq

    September 24, 2009 at 9:28 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck: Apparently the Senate Finance Committee is going to vote on the public option tomorrow (via GOS). Chuck Schumer (my senator) says that

    the healthcare bill signed into law will have a good, strong, public option.

    I fear he’s sayins the final bill will have the PO because, dollars to donuts, Finance will keep it out of their bill.

  89. 89.

    Third Eye Open

    September 24, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    For all you budding radicals, and even those in full bloom, I give you Rage Against the Machine reinterpreting Allen Ginsburg

  90. 90.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 24, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    O/T (oh wait, this is Open Thread, right?)

    Did anyone listen to Fresh Air today? Did you find it too disturbing to stay with? My carpool passenger insisted on listening but I would have turned it off in the first 5 minutes. Very graphic about dog fighting. The guys talking had history with this quote sport unquote and are now working for ASPCA, Humane Society, PETA etc. but their descriptions may give me nightmares. Sorry if I upset anyone but I can’t shake the images. I turned it off the minute I dropped my colleague so only heard the first 15-20 minutes.

  91. 91.

    Punchy

    September 24, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    @John Cole: How about “Werds for the N00bz”?

  92. 92.

    demimondian

    September 24, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    @MikeJ: That may be the first time in history that anyone has ever found something both nasty and unfair to Nietzsche.

  93. 93.

    minachica

    September 24, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    @kommrade reproductive vigor:

    If You’ve Done Nothing Wrong You’ve Got Nothing to Hide! – One of the many mantras favored by neo-cons. Used to justify G.W. Bush’s policy of undermining the U.S. Constitution. i.e., “So what if the government taps your phone? If you’ve done nothing wrong you’ve got nothing to hide.”

    Scary Childhood Flashback/Epiphany: Also favored by my scrupulously apolitical father (Jehovah’s Witnesses must not hold political opinions, or really any opinions at all). No wonder I loooove Russ Feingold for voting against the Patriot Act.

  94. 94.

    WereBear

    September 24, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    Anyone NOT like Taxi Driver?

    Boy, tastes differ. I do like Taxi Driver, but I luuuurve Goodfellas.

  95. 95.

    WereBear

    September 24, 2009 at 9:32 pm

    Obamabot: derisive term for Democrats who actually like their current President.

  96. 96.

    freelancer

    September 24, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    @Tommy:

    You would enjoy “Streetfight“, it’s the doc that covered Cory Booker’s run for mayor of Newark in 2002.

    It’s avail on Netflix-oD for all you streamers.

  97. 97.

    parksideq

    September 24, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    True story: one of the guys arrested in the Denver/NYC terror sting owned the bagel cart around the corner from my office building. I’ve been buying coffee there every morning for a year and a half, and the big joke around the floor this week is how we’ve all been aiding al-Qaeda, one bagel at a time.

    It’s a small world, after all.

  98. 98.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 9:34 pm

    @John Cole: Yes. I like lexicon better than dictionary. It just sounds better.

  99. 99.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    In addition to Mean Streets, another Scorcese movie to check out is The King of Comedy

  100. 100.

    wasabi gasp

    September 24, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    @JK: Mean Streets helps me kick bouts of insomnia.

  101. 101.

    Mike S

    September 24, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    Re: the dictionary. Shouldn’t there be quotes bracketing newsperson in the Tweety definition?

    Tweety- “Newsperson” Chris Matthews.

  102. 102.

    sarah in brooklyn

    September 24, 2009 at 9:35 pm

    hey! those are my kitties! this is the best day ever!

  103. 103.

    Betsy

    September 24, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    @John Cole:

    So, as a relative young’un…what is V?

  104. 104.

    anonevent

    September 24, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    This just cracks me up: http://www.landoverbaptist.org/

  105. 105.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    @parksideq:

    It likely will, and ditto for the final bill the Senate passes. Then it will likely get put back in in conference, maybe with a trigger of sorts, and pared back some. It will pass the House again, and then the all out war in the Senate/ Dems will have back their 60 votes with the new Mass. Senator, and there will be great pressure on the Senate dems who oppose the PO to at least vote yes on cloture/ They will be forced to decide on whether the bill will go the reconciliation route that no dem wants, because it will likely blow up the Senate for some time to come and could also damage the final bill with all the points of order. But who knows, and I think that dems will have the 50 votes to pass it, if it comes to that. And maybe, though unlikely Sen. Snowe.

  106. 106.

    Corner Stone

    September 24, 2009 at 9:37 pm

    @Punchy: More like, “Werds fur teh nerdz”

  107. 107.

    ellaesther

    September 24, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    @John Cole: Yes, I second what asiangrrlMN said. It just sounds better.

  108. 108.

    Corner Stone

    September 24, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    @Svensker: This is almost like a Vulcan Mind Meld…we are *right* there.

  109. 109.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 9:40 pm

    @wasabi gasp:

    Whatever gets you thru the night

  110. 110.

    Corner Stone

    September 24, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    @smiley: And subsequently be forced to turn in my Texas Red card?
    The hell you say suh! The hell you say!

  111. 111.

    amorphous

    September 24, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    Doesn’t “Erik son of Erik Erikson” deserve his own entry?

  112. 112.

    Svensker

    September 24, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    This is almost like a Vulcan Mind Meld…we are right there.

    Um — looks around nervously — who exactly do you mean by “we”?

  113. 113.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    @WereBear:

    Agreed. Goodfellas is one great scene after another.

  114. 114.

    Comrade Kevin

    September 24, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Don’t forget to vote for Bitsy!

    We need an entry in the dictionary for Little Bitsy!

  115. 115.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    @sarah in brooklyn: Very cute cats. Three of them, right?

    @JK: Gotta say, it doesn’t do it for me. I am just not into gangster/mobster movies.

    Erick, the son of Erick, should, indeed, have his own entry.

  116. 116.

    Svensker

    September 24, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Gads, gotta run. Just as it was getting fun.

    Night, all!

  117. 117.

    amorphous

    September 24, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Also “center-right nation” isn’t yet appropriately mockdefined, nor is “Big Media Matt,” “West Fucking Virginia” (just cuz), or “Heh, indeedy.”

  118. 118.

    Max

    September 24, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    Question for the Group –

    I don’t normally read Digby, but I ended up there via a link. I thought my computer was jacked because of the weird margins in his/her blog.

    Can someone explain the background to the very unfortunate formatting on the Digby site?

    I’m sure it’s an inside the intertubes thing that I don’t know.

  119. 119.

    wasabi gasp

    September 24, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    @JK: lol
    If it’s one of those 100 year insomnias, I may need a Casino chaser.

  120. 120.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 9:46 pm

    @sarah in brooklyn:

    I say it’s three. That right? and they are compete cuties.

  121. 121.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 9:47 pm

    @sarah in brooklyn:

    I say it’s three. That right? and they are complete cuties.

  122. 122.

    John Cole

    September 24, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    Pearls of wisdom from the Elder John Cole-

    Me: Did you watch Flashforward?

    Dad: No, I wasn’t interested. If I flash forward I’ll be dead.

    Guess we know where I got the fatalism.

  123. 123.

    WyldPirate

    September 24, 2009 at 9:48 pm

    ummm…whole kernel corn in chili.

    Kernel Corn is great in everything. It adds color and texture to all sorts of foods when added with the added benefit of seeing it again the next day….adding color and texture to the remnants of the previous meal.

  124. 124.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    I would support Michelle Malkin if she were running for Congress against Trafficant.

    YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS. Trafficant is a crook and an egomaniac, but Malkin is a malignant media carcinogen who is every bit as repulsive and toxic as Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity. If I had to choose between Malkin and Traficant, I wouldn’t vote for either of them.

  125. 125.

    Corner Stone

    September 24, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    @Svensker: Oh sorry. I meant me and the sherbert of course.
    You’re not welcome to join in.

  126. 126.

    Common Sense

    September 24, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    Community is the best new show on TV. Winner.

  127. 127.

    sarah in brooklyn

    September 24, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    @asiangrrlMN and General Winfield Stuck
    it is indeed three good kitties! my boys!

  128. 128.

    John Cole

    September 24, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    Anyone else watch fringe? I bought season 1 and kind of like it, even though it is an X-Files ripoff.

  129. 129.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 9:51 pm

    I think we should call the dictionary – Balloon Juice Lingo.

    Somewhere between less formal and Whaaa…..?

  130. 130.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    I am just not into gangster/mobster movies.

    The King of Comedy is not a gangster movie. It’s a dark comedy.

  131. 131.

    Something Fabulous

    September 24, 2009 at 9:52 pm

    @John Cole: Yes. Precision in all things!

  132. 132.

    Trinity

    September 24, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    Sings: Oh Where oh Where could my little Tunch be? Oh where oh where could he beeeee????

  133. 133.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    @wasabi gasp:

    Salud

  134. 134.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    I am just not into gangster/mobster movies.

    Me neither, with the major exception of the first two Godfather movies.

  135. 135.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    September 24, 2009 at 10:01 pm

    @John Cole: How bout The Balloon-Juice Big Book of Internet Traditions?

  136. 136.

    Max

    September 24, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    @John Cole: I love it. Also, Pacey is yummy in it.

  137. 137.

    Laura W

    September 24, 2009 at 10:03 pm

    @Comrade Kevin: I Little Bitsy LoVeS YoU!
    This was her best week yet in the first half, peoples, but she is slowing down now. 50 hours left in this voting week. We have to get her over 2,000, at the very least.

    Many factors bode well in her favor, esp: disqualification of those coughcheaterscough who vote from multiple email accounts and use all of those other newfangled corrupt ACORN voting methods. She is so close, and yet still so far away. Thanks for remembering her and the cause she represents and for reminding each other to vote every day (Demo Woman, SGEW and Violet!)

  138. 138.

    freelancer

    September 24, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Erick, the son of Erick, should, indeed, have his own entry.

    His entry would require another page. You can’t mention him and not go through the litany of stupidity that is Erick the Red.

    From Coffee Mugz, to Operation Leper, to Silly Putty, to RSSF, to Running his car in his driveway on Earth Day just to be an asshole.

    Oh, and Scorsese’s alright, his older movies, I have trouble watching them, Raging Bull in particular, but I think you might like Shutter Island if it stayed close to the book.

  139. 139.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 24, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    @Sarah in Brooklyn, General Winfield Stuck, AsiangrrlMN: y’all are doin’ it rong. Just count paws and divide by ±4.

  140. 140.

    Face

    September 24, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    @John Cole: I think flashing forward will get you arrested in most states.

  141. 141.

    General Winfield Stuck

    September 24, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    @Laura W:

    I take it the voting will be over by Christmas?

  142. 142.

    Violet

    September 24, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    I like dictionary over lexicon. It’s more straightforward.

  143. 143.

    Comrade Mary

    September 24, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    @Trinity: John, if we can’t see any fresh pictures of His Tunchness tonight, could you please dig up some kitten pictures? I thought you’d posted some a while back, so they shouldn’t be hard to find, I hope.

    Aww! Search just gave me this and this. But no pictures! (The link to a promised picture is dead).

    I am Now the Proud Father … Of an 8-month old cat/kitten whom I have named Tunch (after Tunch Ilkin, a former Steeler lineman). I had played with him for an hour last week while I was at the pound, because I wanted to make sure I got an ornery fellow. I also have to have ‘the look’ (pet owners know what I mean) from an animal, to know we are gonna be a good fit. At any rate, Tunch is now tear-assing around my house like he is hopped up on something. I guess the first time out of a cage is kind of liberating. … And he is ornery. I never knew I had so many fun things in my house until I brought him home.

    … I have been spending a lot of time with the new addition to my family, my cat. I love animals, all kinds and all types, and I have always had a soft spot for the little critters. At any rate, it is amazing how different my house is since I got Tunch- I can not get over how a 7 pund cat/kitten just changes the dynamics.

  144. 144.

    amorphous

    September 24, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    @Common Sense: Nope “Modern Family” and “Glee” are full of slightly more win.

  145. 145.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    @JK: Oh, I meant the clip from Mean Streets.

    All right. I’m just going to say it. I don’t like De Niro. Man could act–especially back in the day, but I just don’t like his style.

    Gah.
    @freelancer: Shutter Island looks more like my kind of movie. You say it’s based on a book? Wait, it has Leo in it. I don’t like Leo. And I much dislike Dennis Lehane. Never mind.

    @sarah in brooklyn: Thought so. They are all soooo cute.

  146. 146.

    burnspbesq

    September 24, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    I am not much of a Speve Sturrier fan, but he has his team ready to play tonight. Ole Miss is looking like le suck.

  147. 147.

    Common Sense

    September 24, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    @amorphous:

    I missed Modern Family. I did hear really good things. Wasn’t overly in love with Glee though.

  148. 148.

    amorphous

    September 24, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    @freelancer: This reminds me: We are missing the Red State Strikeforce.

  149. 149.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    September 24, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    @John Cole:
    A) More of a rip-off than Warehouse 13?

    B) Is it a vomitously bad rip-off like W13, or a decent show that happens to be a rip-off of the X Files?

  150. 150.

    kindness

    September 24, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Doesn’t Darth Cheney deserve a dishonorable mention in the lexicon?

  151. 151.

    burnspbesq

    September 24, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    @JK:

    OK, OK, I plead guilty to one count of over-the-top rhetoric. Trafficant has that effect on me.

  152. 152.

    pattonbt

    September 24, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Another one (although I am sure this has been raised before…maybe)…..

    Because, shut up, thats why!

  153. 153.

    Laura W

    September 24, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    @General Winfield Stuck: Easter Sunday, LATEST!

  154. 154.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    September 24, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    @Face: Flashing backwards will get you a date with a Family Values Republican

  155. 155.

    Brachiator

    September 24, 2009 at 10:17 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Anyone NOT like Taxi Driver?

    I admire it, but don’t like it. But I had that ambivalence about a lot of Scorsese, even though I have seen most of his work, including his earliest films.

    I loved Goodfellas, though. And I think that his Age of Innocence is a near masterpiece, marred by the miscasting of Winona Ryder.

  156. 156.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    I don’t like De Niro… I just don’t like his style.

    In that case, you can scratch The King of Comedy. It stars DeNiro.

    Of the feature films I recommended to you several days back, I think only one was a mob/gangster film. Plus, you can always check out a foreign language film or a documentary.

  157. 157.

    freelancer

    September 24, 2009 at 10:25 pm

    @amorphous:

    I think I put a definition in one of these threads, but yeah there’s a lot of stuff we’re still missing.

  158. 158.

    Comrade Jake

    September 24, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    I assume everyone caught the latest installment of Steve King asshattery today?

    Actually lots of interesting updates at Josh’s site tonight. New poll has solid support for the PO (which continues to be the MOST undercovered story in this whole media suckfest), and Obama’s numbers are solid.

    Peak wingnut cannot be far away.

  159. 159.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Have you ever seen A Personal Journey With Martin Scorsese Through American Movies? I saw it a long time ago and found it very interesting to see Scorsese discussing movies that impressed and inspired him.

  160. 160.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    @JK: Yes. True. I am just a tad discouraged because so many people think Taxi Driver is brilliant. I really am nervous about watching the Godfather movies now, more so than before.

  161. 161.

    Brachiator

    September 24, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    @John Cole:

    Should we change Balloon Juice Dictionary to Balloon Juice Lexicon?

    Very nice. I say yes.

  162. 162.

    wasabi gasp

    September 24, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    One of my picks for best De Niro performances is Midnight Run. I’d probably put it right after Taxi Driver, The Godfather II and Raging Bull.

  163. 163.

    Skepticat

    September 24, 2009 at 10:31 pm

    @JK: Reminds me of the Louisiana primary when corrupt former governor Edwin Edwards ran against racist David Duke, giving rise to the bumper sticker “Vote for the crook, it’s important.”

  164. 164.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    At the end of Jim Traficant’s appearance on Hardball yesterday, I was wishing that he still had 10 years left to serve in prison. The guy is an unrepentant, delusional jackass.

    Malkin is in my pantheon of truly repulsive, nauseating wingnuts. I hope she gets her own special wing in Hell.

  165. 165.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    @Comrade Jake: I didn’t see that. Stephen King really is the Iowa equivalent of Michele Bachmann. Vile.

  166. 166.

    cleek

    September 24, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    i can’t decide is FlashForward was a bigger disappointment than Glee. or not. or if it matters.

  167. 167.

    Warren Terra

    September 24, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    there’s a lot of stuff we’re still missing.

    I tried to put together list earlier today, although (1) I’m sure it missed a lot, and (2) many of the things on my list are now in the Dictionary/Lexicon/Wordz.

  168. 168.

    Molly

    September 24, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    What about The Furminator?

  169. 169.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 10:38 pm

    @JK: She’s not allowed in Hell. That’s where I’m spending the rest of eternity, and I don’t want to be anywhere near her. Then again, it is my definition of hell to be surrounded by rightwingnuts, so….

  170. 170.

    Jason Bylinowski

    September 24, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Lexicon is good. CONCORDANCE is better. Oh snap, shit up in here’s getting literary as hell.

  171. 171.

    kindness

    September 24, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    Another dishonorable mention – Atlas Juggs. I’ll leave it to someone clever to say something really biting & cruel or uproriaous about Pammycakes.

    I don’t know why I find it so much easier to make fun of ’em but I do. Must be a gift from the FSM.

  172. 172.

    wasabi gasp

    September 24, 2009 at 10:39 pm

    @Molly: …or Neti Pot.

  173. 173.

    dsc (Unreasonable liberal)

    September 24, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    Tarvosky –uhh that would be Tarkovsky–one of the greatest 20th century filmmakers

    Solaris is a mediation on the way humans find meaning and are unable to communicate feeling–brilliant–just that opening shot of the waters filled with the green of spring–if you knew today that this would be your last time to look at the Earth before leaving, possibly forever, what would you look at?

    his best sci-fic film, however, is STALkER (imo) a film of faith and fear and the inability to have believe even when you see it with your own eyes, but for me his finest films are his meditation on art, ANDREI RUBLEV, and his last film (only the 7th) THE SACRIFICE which he made in exile in sweden (with Sven Nykvist as DoP) while he was dying of brain cancer at age 56, what deal would you make with God?

    An amazing filmmaker in every respect.

    TAXI DRIVER is a film of its time–I love to look at it, but it loses a lot because of its rootedness in the 70s. GOODFELLAS, AGE OF INNOCENCE, and RAGING BULL are his best, but I gotta admit I have a big soft spot for AFTER HOURS

  174. 174.

    Genine

    September 24, 2009 at 10:41 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Actually I really liked this first episode. I hope it continues along the same lines or better.

    I was surprised to see a remake of V. I loved both mini-series (though I feel the first was better than the second).

    Here’s to hoping they do a good job with it!

  175. 175.

    cleek

    September 24, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    the BJ Manifesto !

    or, the Encyclopaedium Baloonia Jucicus

  176. 176.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    @Jason Bylinowski: I’ll see your concordance and raise you a vernacular. Or patois, to Frenchify things. Or argot. Or The Quintessential Balloon Juice?

  177. 177.

    freelancer

    September 24, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    @kindness:

    I’ll leave it to someone clever to say something really biting & cruel or uproriaous about Pammycakes.

    How dare you! Pamela Geller is a natural beauty and a valued thinker on the American Right. Her prose has the passion of Hitchens and the wit of Taibbi. She is always very thorough, and never publishes anything speculative that she might have to issue a correction for and then walk it back. She is a kind, sensitive soul who has the utmost respect for the world’s many religions, especially Islam, and yet she retains the objectivity of a true journalist. She always asks the brutal, honest questions when interviewing like John Bolton, and, erm, when she went on Redeye that one time. In short, Pamela Geller is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.

  178. 178.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 10:49 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    I am just not into gangster/mobster movies.

    I really am nervous about watching the Godfather movies now, more so than before.

    This could pose a serious problem. If I had previously known that you weren’t into gangster/mobster movies, I would have refrained from recommending the Godfather films several days ago.

    On the other hand, the acting is stellar across the board in both movies. The Godfather Part II, in particular, has 3 standout supporting performances for me -Lee Strassberg, Michael Gazzo, and G.D. Spradlin.

    From a techincal standpoint, both films have great editing and cinematography.

    There are scenes in both films that I think can be appreciated aesthetically, even if you don’t like the gangster genre.

  179. 179.

    kommrade reproductive vigor

    September 24, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    @Comrade Jake: GOP still angling to corner the valuable Paranoid Schizophrenic vote I see.

  180. 180.

    Genine

    September 24, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    John: I vote for “Lexicon”. It just has a certain flair…

    Cornerstone: I saw Glee once, it didn’t really appeal to me. I have heard good things about “Modern Family” and so I will check it out.

  181. 181.

    ChrisB

    September 24, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    @A Thousand Faces: So that would be A Thousand Faces + ?

    These dictionary/lexicon threads have been great, though I still think “Shut up, that’s why” deserves an entry.

  182. 182.

    Brachiator

    September 24, 2009 at 10:51 pm

    @JK:

    Have you ever seen A Personal Journey With Martin Scorsese Through American Movies? I saw it a long time ago and found it very interesting to see Scorsese discussing movies that impressed and inspired him.

    Yep. Good stuff. Scorsese and his long-time editor Thelma Schoonmaker not only both love film, but are illuminating when they talk about film.

    Along these lines, Francois Truffaut contributed two great books about film, his interview with Alfred Hitchcock often sold with the title Hitchcock/Truffaut, and The Films In My Life, which reprints some of Truffaut’s great film reviews and essays from the 50’s and early 60’s from Cahiers du Cinema.

    Both books are currently available at amazon and other sellers.

  183. 183.

    Warren Terra

    September 24, 2009 at 10:53 pm

    @ Freelancer, #177
    Do people think we need a definition for kindest bravest warmest most wonderful human being i’ve ever known in my life, to clue people in?

  184. 184.

    Jason Bylinowski

    September 24, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Fade in to closeup of shotgun shack, evening crickets chirping, one light on in the bedroom of the house:

    “Wyatt?”

    “What the hell is it now, Mable? And by the way pass the Maalox.”

    “Lean over a bit and look at this here blogpost. What the hell is this young John Cole talking about, ‘Whitey Tape?’, ‘Burkean Bells’, ‘the Matthews Tingle’….whaaaaaa? I tell you, Wyatt, it’s all a bit much for me.”

    “Oh hell, do you think I keep up with that upstart? All I know is they finally posted an explanation for it….It’s over there in yon Concordance of Balloon-Juice, top-right of the page. Ooooow & speak of the devil!! Where is sam hell have you put the witch-hazel, my hemorrhoids are starting up again.”

    This message brought to you by People In Favor Of “Concordance”.

    Jason bylinowski: I approve of this message.

    And……….scene!!!

  185. 185.

    ellaesther

    September 24, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    @cleek: @Jason Bylinowski: @asiangrrlMN:

    I am quite enjoying the fact that we are getting nerdy and self-referential as we seek a title for a list of our nerdy and self-referential terminology!

    I vote for: “The Balloon Juice Big Book of Hot Air: A Layperson’s Lexicon of All Things Consistently Wrong, or Teh BJ Wordz”

  186. 186.

    Genine

    September 24, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    @John Cole:

    That little exchange is like a piece of the puzzle, John. A piece of the puzzle…

  187. 187.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 10:56 pm

    @Warren Terra: Yes. I thought freelancer was +15 and remembering a passing encounter with Ms. Juggs. I had no idea that there was an oblique reference in his comment.

    @JK: I have had several people tell me to watch ’em (Godfathers). Now, I don’t think I will.

  188. 188.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 10:58 pm

    @Skepticat:

    Reminds me of the Louisiana primary when corrupt former governor Edwin Edwards ran against racist David Duke, giving rise to the bumper sticker “Vote for the crook, it’s important.”

    I would vote for a crooked politician over a bigoted politician in a nanosecond.

    Political corruption and bigotry will outlive all of us, but bigotry offends me more at a visceral, gut level. I’m not condoning political corruption but I think it’s a lesser evil than bigotry.

    We can’t outlaw bigotry but we have to give it no quarter. I don’t know how to get rid of bigotry, but I know that placing bigots in elective office is dead wrong.

  189. 189.

    Molly

    September 24, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    @Warren Terra: Well, show compassion and at least clue ME in.
    I’m having a blast learning all of this history of Balloon Juice.

  190. 190.

    freelancer

    September 24, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Nope, sober as a cobra.

    @Warren Terra
    And we can’t define every reference, just internet generated ones. That line is from a movie from 1962. Maybe CERN had the internet around then, perhaps Al Gore, but us?

  191. 191.

    BDeevDad

    September 24, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    For the scientists and those that just want to watch a pretty girl lay the smack down on Kirk Cameron over his edition of Darwin’s Origin of Species, this was awesome.

    Best idea was the Richard Dawkin’s Annotated Bible

  192. 192.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:03 pm

    @ellaesther: Very nice! How about Balloon juice Intellectual Thoughts Even Mood-Evoking, or, BITE ME.

    No? Then, I like Cole, The Elements of Bile, a la Shrunk and White.

    Or, Balloon Juice Vocabulary for Dummies.

  193. 193.

    Jason Bylinowski

    September 24, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    @JK: Yeah, good point, and I feel pretty much the same. Besides, sometimes you get a good crook in there like LBJ who can actually get something accomplished.

    In other news, how sad is that everytime someone says “no quarter” in a sentence I still think of Agent Flowbee?

  194. 194.

    wasabi gasp

    September 24, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    While watching FlashForward, I got the impression (or fear) that they may pull a Lost and spend each episode detailing the endless minutia of each character. I can’t handle spending any more years of my life wading through that kind of crap.

  195. 195.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:06 pm

    @Brachiator:

    I’m familiar with Truffaut’s books, but I haven’t yet read them. Beyond his individual films, I’ve always been impressed by Scorsese’s love and passion for the history of film.

  196. 196.

    freelancer

    September 24, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    @BDeevDad:

    Best idea was the Richard Dawkin’s Annotated Bible

    Would monsieur care for The Skeptic’s Annotated Bible?

  197. 197.

    jibeaux

    September 24, 2009 at 11:07 pm

    I thought it was Red State Trike Force, won’t it? Or was Farce a variation?

  198. 198.

    Santiago

    September 24, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    @A Thousand Faces:

    …definition of Burkean Bells… used mostly ironically, when conservatives like Brooks are being hypocrites in invoking Burke to have a bullshit hissy fit over some “radical” thing a liberal is doing, while not having batted an eye at the far more radical undertakings during the Bush Presidency

    This.

  199. 199.

    BDeevDad

    September 24, 2009 at 11:08 pm

    @freelancer: Merci

  200. 200.

    Warren Terra

    September 24, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    @ Molly, #189
    It’s a quote from (at least the original) Manchurian Candidate. It’s the description the surviving platoon members are programmed to use, verbatim and without any affect, to describe Raymond Shaw, no matter that they don’t actually think any of that about him.

    The phrase is always used insincerely, usually sarcastically, and a Google search finds its often used in politics, including some rather ugly sentiments.

    Sorry if there were spoilers there, but the film was from 1962 and I think the statute of limitations has lapsed.

  201. 201.

    ellaesther

    September 24, 2009 at 11:09 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Except, of course, that anyone who is interested enough in hanging out around here that they want to learn the patois — is no Dummy.

    I am, as they say, just sayin’.

  202. 202.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    I like lexicon better than dictionary as well. Why do you think you’re headed for Hell?

  203. 203.

    ellaesther

    September 24, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    @wasabi gasp: This is precisely where Lost lost me.

  204. 204.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    @ellaesther: Hm. C’est vrai. Peut-etre….pour the Newly Enlightened?

  205. 205.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:13 pm

    @BDeevDad: @freelancer:

    I’ll give both of those titles a big thumbs up.

  206. 206.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:15 pm

    @Warren Terra:

    That was one hell of a movie.

  207. 207.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    @JK: Oh, come on. Of course I’m going to hell. Look at me! I am the poster candidate for hell.

  208. 208.

    ellaesther

    September 24, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Not in the FSM’s multi-verse. His orecchiette are always open to you. And there is no hell — just carb free diets.

  209. 209.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:25 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    I have to plead ignorance here. I haven’t seen anything you’ve written that paints a portrait of someone who’s going to Hell. You’re being too hard on yourself.

  210. 210.

    freelancer

    September 24, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Really? cause I think this guy is the portrait of the hellbound.

  211. 211.

    Warren Terra

    September 24, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    @ JK, #206
    Sarah Vowell on the subject of the movie (well, at least on the subject of Sinatra, including his role in that movie), was very memorable.

  212. 212.

    Midnight Marauder

    September 24, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    @Santiago:

    …definition of Burkean Bells… used mostly ironically, when conservatives like Brooks are being hypocrites in invoking Burke to have a bullshit hissy fit over some “radical” thing a liberal is doing, while not having batted an eye at the far more radical undertakings during the Bush Presidency

    This.

    Seconded.

    And while Concordance makes a strong case, I’m going to toss my lot in with lexicon.

    But shit is indeed “getting literary as hell” up in here. (h/t: Mr. Bylinowski)

  213. 213.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:31 pm

    @ellaesther: Which would be my vision of hell! (No carbs).

    @JK: Well, I mean according to the fundies, I am the poster child for hell. Bi, agnostic, unmarried, no children, free-lovin’, pacifist, sockulist-capitalist, all that jazz. I was raised Evangelical, and my whole family thinks I’m going to hell. They pray for me, in fact. It hasn’t worked thus far.

  214. 214.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    @freelancer: Cannot do it. Cannot watch teh stoopids. Hurts mah brainz!

  215. 215.

    tripletee

    September 24, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    More defs:

    Jesus, NTZYM: used to indicate when you are referring to the Biblical Jesus, rather than commenter ThymeZone’s yardman.

    Turning a corner: a meaningless phrase meant to convey a false sense of progress. Used extensively by Bush administration officials and war cheerleaders in reference to Iraq (see also Friedman Unit).

    Cheerleader Outfit: A reference to conservative commentator Michelle Malkin’s infamous cheerleader video. More generally, it can refer to someone going to ridiculous, painfully embarrassing extremes to defend an obviously failed policy.

    Re: V – The original miniseries and its sequel haven’t aged all that well, but I loved them when I was in junior high. The less said about the weekly series that followed, the better. The remake (which also stars Alan Tudyk -Wash on Firefly) looks pretty decent, and if they keep the allegorical tone of the original it could be interesting.

  216. 216.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    @Warren Terra:

    Thanks for the link. Sinatra was an extremely talented actor as well as being a great singer. In addition to The Manchurian Candidate, I really enjoyed his performances in The Man With the Golden Arm and Some Came Running.

  217. 217.

    Jay in Oregon

    September 24, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Still looking for arguingwithsignposts. Anyone seen him in the past day or two? C’mon, man, speak to us.

    My day was good but my wife’s was not. Some poorly-thought-out decisions on my part over the past few weeks are coming back to make her life difficult, and that reflects on how things are between us.

    Basically, I told some friends what was going on in an effort to get their support for both of us, but the husband has decided that my wife just needs to get over it because I’m unhappy; this has put some strain in their relationship because he thinks his wife is enabling my wife. Had I known that was going to happen, I wouldn’t have said anything.

    I can only apologize and try to make amends to them later, but she wasn’t in much of a conversational mood so far. I’ll make one last attempt before she goes to bed.

  218. 218.

    wasabi gasp

    September 24, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: I’d like a timeshare in Hell for the chilly season.

  219. 219.

    Fulcanelli

    September 24, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    Lexicon is so much more elitist. Good choice, Cole.

    You guys watch way too much TV.

    Hey, who can provide the link to the Jane Hamsher thread yer all chuckling over. Help a brother out, ovah heah.

  220. 220.

    MikeJ

    September 24, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    This new lexicon will enable us to easily tell the cheechakos from the sourdoughs.

  221. 221.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    I hear what you’re saying. You sound like a perfectly normal, well-adjusted, rational person to me.

    Don’t Let The Bastards Grind You Down.

  222. 222.

    Fulcanelli

    September 24, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Lawdy womyn, after that self description, you need an exorcism. Go through a tarot spread, you’ll feel better.

  223. 223.

    tripletee

    September 24, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    @Fulcanelli:

    Psst: there’s a lexicon with handy links now.

  224. 224.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    @Jay in Oregon: He was with us last night. I haven’t seen him today, though. arguing! Come out!

    As for what you told your friends, you can’t control what they do with the information. Apologize once more, and then let it go. Keep on posting, and keep on hanging in there.

    @wasabi gasp: Heh. Yeah, that would be the worst part of Hell for me. No snow and no sub-zero temps!

  225. 225.

    shoutingattherain

    September 24, 2009 at 11:43 pm

    @JK:
    I missed Jim Traficant on Hardball yesterday. Does he still have that, er, hair-thing workin’?

    Worst. Rug. Ever.

  226. 226.

    Fulcanelli

    September 24, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    @MikeJ: From your house!

  227. 227.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:45 pm

    @Fulcanelli: This is true. I do need to read the cards. Thank you. I will be back.

    @JK: Yeah, some of it is sarcasm. Not the family part, though. My mom, she is praying hard for my soul.

  228. 228.

    Warren Terra

    September 24, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Hey, who can provide the link to the Jane Hamsher thread yer all chuckling over. Help a brother out, ovah heah.

    In case tripletee’s hint wasn’t sufficiently helpful, it’s linked from the Lexicon entry.

    I suppose given all the fun people are having with the nostalgia, the next thing after the dictionary lexicon will be a greatest hits page?

  229. 229.

    ellaesther

    September 24, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    @asiangrrlMN: Ah yes, there is that — no carbs is a very cruel and unusual punishment.

    But also: Who’s to say that “Bi, agnostic, unmarried, no children, free-lovin’, pacifist, sockulist-capitalist, all that jazz” isn’t the answer to prayer? (I mean, other than your mother. She would probably say that it isn’t).

  230. 230.

    freelancer

    September 24, 2009 at 11:52 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    My parents flatly deny my disbelief. It’s the weirdest thing. Like earlier this summer when they asked about my dating life, and I mentioned Wilma Flintstone (a fundie pentacostal who was very swoony over me) and how she discriminated against me and drew a line saying “I can’t date an atheist!”.

    My mom, completely missing the point of ‘oh, I was dating this girl but then she stopped for the most retarded reason ever and I felt bad at the time’, she just frowned at me and said, “You’re not an atheist!”

    *facepalm.

  231. 231.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:54 pm

    @Fulcanelli: I keep getting Fortune and the two of wands (Dominion). Both are good. Thanks.

  232. 232.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:55 pm

    @asiangrrlMN:

    As long as YOU know that your heart, soul, and brain are in the right place, that’s the only thing that counts in the long run.

  233. 233.

    JK

    September 24, 2009 at 11:57 pm

    @shoutingattherain:

    Yes, Traficant still has that thing. Putting aside Traficant’s actual crimes, he should have been censured by Congress for having one of the worst hairpieces of the 20th century.

  234. 234.

    Loneoak

    September 24, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    “I Am Aware of All Internet Traditions”- Originating from a stupid comment at Lawyers, Guns and Money (“I am aware of all internet traditions, but… “), it has been subsequently popularized as a satirical term that makes fun of right-wing stupidity.

    I think this should read “makes fun or right-wing obtuseness and inflated self-importance.”

  235. 235.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 24, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    @ellaesther: That’s true. It’s just not the answer to HER prayer. She finally gave up nagging me to have kids on this visit (I AM on the wrong side of 35, remember), but she did manage to slide in a paean to marriage. Feh.

    @freelancer: Wow. Your mom said that to your face? I remember your dalliance with the “I can’t date an atheist unless I’m really really drunk” fundie chick. Sorry it didn’t work out. Well, actually, no, I’m not. Dating is hard enough without throwing rigid religion into the mix.

    JK, there’s the rub, isn’t it?

  236. 236.

    tripletee

    September 24, 2009 at 11:58 pm

    @Warren Terra:

    In case tripletee’s hint wasn’t sufficiently helpful

    I’m in the “teach a man to fish” school of thought, WT.

  237. 237.

    BDeevDad

    September 25, 2009 at 12:01 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Then go with us Jews, we don’t believe in hell.

  238. 238.

    Warren Terra

    September 25, 2009 at 12:02 am

    I’m in the “teach a man to fish” school of thought, WT.

    My level of generosity varies dramatically, and often I’d agree with you, but you’ve got to figure that some of the people commenting here might be a bit too drunk to figure out a hint that’s even slightly obscure.

  239. 239.

    freelancer

    September 25, 2009 at 12:04 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Yeah she said it to my face, completely not self-aware. But we get along okay, cause my dad’s the religious hard-liner. Funny thing is he’s generally more fun than my mom, he’s just the kind of Christian I wish most people were, it’s a private thing with him and he doesn’t talk about it with other people.

    I think “The Futon” needs it’s own entry, too.

  240. 240.

    Warren Terra

    September 25, 2009 at 12:05 am

    Then go with us Jews, we don’t believe in hell.

    Heck, lots of us Jews don’t even believe in God.

  241. 241.

    JK

    September 25, 2009 at 12:08 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Was just browsing the Lexicon. It makes for a truly fascinating read doesn’t it?

  242. 242.

    wasabi gasp

    September 25, 2009 at 12:09 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Years ago, my mom would give me those little magnetic saints (for luck or to keep bad spirits away or to make pizza taste better or whatever they do) and because I love her so, I put them in the places where she said they belong. They are still there. I dust those damn things when I clean the house. When one of them accidentally broke, I crazy glued it back together. Nutty. I bet she would’ve flipped it.

  243. 243.

    demimondian

    September 25, 2009 at 12:13 am

    I suggest “A Moonbat’s Lexicon” as the official name for the dictionary.

  244. 244.

    MikeJ

    September 25, 2009 at 12:13 am

    Another phrase we have to define.
    Suck. On. This.

  245. 245.

    ellaesther

    September 25, 2009 at 12:15 am

    @freelancer: If it is any comfort WHATSOEVER, it is my experience that many people flatly deny the disbelief of anyone. It is buckets and pails worse when the denier is your own mother, but at the very least, you know you’re in good company. I’m a believing Jew, but I’m married to a very, very non-believing Jew, and it has been a humbling journey of discovery to realize how tough it is out there for an atheist.

    (Hey! It occurs to me [really, I just remembered!]: I even wrote a little something about it! Here’s a link, for your reading pleasure: “On godless heathens.” If you’re so inclined).

  246. 246.

    Midnight Marauder

    September 25, 2009 at 12:17 am

    @JK:

    Was just browsing the Lexicon. It makes for a truly fascinating read doesn’t it?

    It does indeed. I have to say, my favorite part for some reason is this:

    Q definitions here.

    I kind of don’t want that to ever change.

  247. 247.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 25, 2009 at 12:18 am

    @BDeevDad: Cool. I can dig it.

    @Warren Terra: I can dig it even more. And, I am NOT drunk–just a bit tipsy now.

    @JK: I am up to the Rs. Yes, it’s amazing. They have done a good job with it.

    wasabi gasp, the things we do for our parents, eh?

    freelancer, yeah, I hear that. My mom is actually pretty much like that–except when it comes to me. We used to get into awful fights because of it, but I have gotten past it. Now, I just nod and smile for the most part.

  248. 248.

    freelancer

    September 25, 2009 at 12:21 am

    @ellaesther:

    I found the episode rather absurdly funny, but thank you, for your thoughts and your post. Hitchens believes that Obama is an atheist, and having read Dreams from my father, I’m kind of seeing it, but I do wonder if he isn’t just projecting a bit much.

    Anyone care to see Richard Dawkins do his own dramatic reading of Ray Comfort’s Banana Video?

  249. 249.

    Cat Lady

    September 25, 2009 at 12:21 am

    @JK:

    Having lived through all teh crazee the lexicon covers, and then ending up with Obama – I’m gobsmacked. There’s some ridiculous fucking shit in there. Future historians will consult the BJ Lexicon like runes, while shaking their heads in disbelief. Great job everyone, and great idea John Cole.

  250. 250.

    Tattoosydney

    September 25, 2009 at 12:23 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    Two wands of dominion?

    I used to belong to that club too… sigh.

  251. 251.

    ellaesther

    September 25, 2009 at 12:26 am

    @freelancer: Excellent! Ah, family…. They’re nutty, aren’t they? Someday, ask me about all the alcoholics in mine!

  252. 252.

    freelancer

    September 25, 2009 at 12:26 am

    @Warren Terra:

    Sounds awesome, but I’m afraid the only person who knows less about Jewish Culture and traditions than myself would be George Bluth:

    George, Sr.: Tonight? No, it’s Yontif, the first night of Yom Kippur.
    Michael: Dad, that’s just one night, and it’s back in September. That’s okay. You’ve only been a Jew for about two days.

  253. 253.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 25, 2009 at 12:26 am

    @ellaesther: That is a wonderful essay, ellaesther. Thank you so much for linking to it (and more so for writing it). I agree with your hubby. There is little room in America for those of us who say we are godless–only room for those who act as if they are godless.

  254. 254.

    Stan

    September 25, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Joe,

    Your dictionary needs a better URL. TinyURL to the rescue:

    http://tinyurl.com/balloon-juice-lexicon

  255. 255.

    Fulcanelli

    September 25, 2009 at 12:29 am

    Another epic thread link that should make it into the BJ Lexicon is that middle of the weekday, #500+ post Andrew Sullivan/Abortion smack down that transpired earlier this summer. The resident BJ femmes were in fine form that day, if memory serves me. My BJ search-fu skillz are weak and I’m too tired to find the link. Anybody remember?

  256. 256.

    freelancer

    September 25, 2009 at 12:29 am

    @ellaesther:

    My family doesn’t have alcoholics. If one of us went to a meeting, we’d all have to go to meetings. Screw it.

  257. 257.

    bago

    September 25, 2009 at 12:29 am

    [email protected]John Cole:
    lexicon would be more appropriate because these notes aren’t providing diction cues, but it’s not quite a collection of lexemes. Much closer, IMHO, but if you look up the definition of a “gloss” you might see why I find glossary more appropriate. Of course we’ve only been consistently wrong since 2002, so have it your way.

  258. 258.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 25, 2009 at 12:30 am

    @Tattoosydney: I bet you did, fake hubby, I bet you did. Rrrrowr. How are you doing? It’s almost the weekend for you!

  259. 259.

    freelancer

    September 25, 2009 at 12:31 am

    @Fulcanelli:

    John aborted that thread before I could even see it, damn it.

    It’s cut off after like the first trimester. Only 200 posts or so.

    EDIT: Here ya go.
    https://balloon-juice.com/?p=22073

  260. 260.

    Tattoosydney

    September 25, 2009 at 12:32 am

    All good – it’s Friday afternoon, the dust has cleared, I have two bottles of exceptional Portuguese red wine breathing in the office kitchen to celebrate the end of the week, no work to do this weekend ….

    How are you?

  261. 261.

    wasabi gasp

    September 25, 2009 at 12:34 am

    My mom denies my mentions of non-belief by laughing at it, like I told a funny. I can live with that. But, I’d probably be able to live with any reaction short of preaching. It’s easy to imagine the stresses on a believer who truly loves and cares for a blasphemous hellbent sinner.

  262. 262.

    Fulcanelli

    September 25, 2009 at 12:35 am

    @freelancer: You’re right, now that you mention it. Alas…

    It was off the hook, baby! – Michael Steele

  263. 263.

    gyma

    September 25, 2009 at 12:36 am

    @asiangrrlMN:

    As a true blue American atheist, the thing that gets my goat is:

    atheist = amoral

    As if only religious folks have morals. Just because I don’t believe in god doesn’t mean I lack a moral compass.

    /rant

  264. 264.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 25, 2009 at 12:36 am

    @Fulcanelli: Yes. I remember. I was one of the distaff members of BJ who ripped him a new asshole. It was right after the murder of Dr. Tiller.

    https://balloon-juice.com/?p=21986

    I think Cole weeded out a few. There is also this thread:

    https://balloon-juice.com/?p=22002

    That’s when I realized how far left on the issue I was.

  265. 265.

    2th&nayle

    September 25, 2009 at 12:36 am

    @Makewi: Are you referring to felons serving in the congress, or serving corn in chili? Both equally abhorent ideas. Sorry Smiley!

  266. 266.

    JK

    September 25, 2009 at 12:40 am

    asiangrrlMN, Midnight Marauder, Cat Lady

    I don’t mean to get all glass half-empty here, but the flipside of the Lexicon’s high quality is that we’re facing a totally insane opposition who are hell bent on destroying Obama by pursuing a scorched earth policy and employing slash and burn tactics. If I had to choose, I’d rather have a much shorter, duller Lexicon. That would mean we’d be dealing with a more rational, reasonable opposition who wouldn’t be employing all this incendiary rhetoric or concocting fake controversies to fire up the hatred.

  267. 267.

    ellaesther

    September 25, 2009 at 12:41 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Thank you very much! Every once and awhile I’ll start writing something here, there, or somewhere and think “hey, I’ve already written about this!” I’m glad that you read it, and that you liked it.

    @freelancer: Sometimes, my family is a meeting.

  268. 268.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 25, 2009 at 12:41 am

    @Tattoosydney: Not bad. I’m imbibing Maker’s Mark, working on some fiction, and responding here at the same time. Sounds like you have a lovely weekend planned. Good for you.

    @freelancer: You crack me the fuck up. Really. You do.

    @gyma: I hear you. I’ve blogged about how, despite my agnostic beliefs (or non-beliefs, if you will), I am probably one of the most ethical people I know. It really chaps my hide to hear mealy-mouthed so-called Christians (especially in politics) spout off righteously how us unwashed nonbelievers are teh evilz. Whatever.

    JK, I LIVE in glass half-empty world, and I agree. I would much rather have a shorter lexicon if it meant a more reasonable opposition party. Sigh.

    ellaesther, hey, blogging about something in the past doesn’t stop me from blogging about it again!

  269. 269.

    JK

    September 25, 2009 at 12:47 am

    @Tattoosydney:

    Good to clear that the conditions have improved in your area. Those pictures of the Sydney Opera House obscured by dust clouds were very eerie. Have you ever attended any performances there?

  270. 270.

    Ash Can

    September 25, 2009 at 12:59 am

    @freelancer: Good grief, your brain’s gonna need an ace bandage after that.

  271. 271.

    ellaesther

    September 25, 2009 at 1:01 am

    @asiangrrlMN: Crap! Now I’ve clicked on your blog and there are so many things grabbing my attention there — and I have no time to read! Indeed, it’s already midnight and I still have so many things on my plate that I was just kicking myself for spending time having fun over here….

    Like Arnold, I will be baaaaack. It looks like a cool joint!

    And with that I bid you all good night.

    And to the Jews who fast, I say: An easy fast! And again, shana tova, to you, and you, and also you — all you atheists out there, have a great new Jewish year!

  272. 272.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 25, 2009 at 1:07 am

    @ellaesther: Thanks! It’ll be there tomorrow and many days to come, so take your time. Happy new year to you, and a good night.

  273. 273.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 25, 2009 at 1:12 am

    All right, bitchez. It’s bedtime for me. See ya on the flip side.

  274. 274.

    auntieeminaz

    September 25, 2009 at 1:27 am

    @Laura W: There is a springer spaniel named Glory that has been running just ahead of Little Bitsy. As of 10:30 PM Arizona time Bitsy has 1279 votes and Glory has 1352. Juicers need to step it up. Si se peuede. (Whatever) Also.

  275. 275.

    Tattoosydney

    September 25, 2009 at 1:51 am

    @JK:

    I have – it’s an amazing building, and pictures of it don’t really do it justice…

    Up close, it’s a towering, otherworldly thing, which glistens in the sun. Inside it’s ribbed with concrete and very much like being inside an enormous shell.

    I have the great joy of being able to look out my window every day at work and see it 200 metres away – approximately like this.

    The only drawback is that the acoustics are a bit shit.

  276. 276.

    JK

    September 25, 2009 at 2:11 am

    @Tattoosydney:

    The Sydney Opera House is one of my favorite buildings. The first time I saw a photo of it I was completely blown away. It’s one of the most amazing designs anyone has ever dreamed up for a building. The first time I saw it, I thought it looked like something designed by extraterrestrials.

    I don’t know how much you know about Jørn Oberg Utzon who designed the Sydney Opera House, but I was very happy to learn about this:

    When the Sydney Opera House was declared a World Heritage Site on June 28, 2007, Utzon became only the second person to have his work recognised as a World Heritage Site while he was still alive.

    Thanks very much for the photo. The Sydney Opera House is one of those structures that, like the Guggenheim at Bilbao, the Taj Mahal, St Basil’s Cathedral, Neuschwanstein Castle and the monastery at Mont Saint-Michel, always mesmerizes me whenever I see a photo of it.

  277. 277.

    Midnight Marauder

    September 25, 2009 at 2:16 am

    @JK:

    I don’t mean to get all glass half-empty here, but the flipside of the Lexicon’s high quality is that we’re facing a totally insane opposition who are hell bent on destroying Obama by pursuing a scorched earth policy and employing slash and burn tactics. If I had to choose, I’d rather have a much shorter, duller Lexicon. That would mean we’d be dealing with a more rational, reasonable opposition who wouldn’t be employing all this incendiary rhetoric or concocting fake controversies to fire up the hatred.

    You are, of course, very much so correct. However, just to represent the half-full side of the equation, having such a thorough collection of all things wingnut/Obstructionist Asshole is certainly a very resourceful guide to have for dealing with them from the present onwards (since they’re not going anywhere for a while, not until the demographics finally catch up with them, that is).

    Besides, I think having such a lexicon for all the batshit insane things they’ve done/said over the years is a very positive step in the never-ending quest to prove to the rest of the somewhat dubious population that “no, these people are not serious” and “yes, they are fucking crazy.”

    It reminds me of a quote from tonight’s episode of Community:

    “I tell you what we’re gonna do. We’re gonna take this, and we’re going to put it in a museum for crazy people.”

  278. 278.

    bago

    September 25, 2009 at 2:55 am

    Hey, we have our EMP out here in Seattle.

  279. 279.

    freelancer

    September 25, 2009 at 3:20 am

    Sheehan, Cindy- John needs to write a definition.

    This.

    Bwaaaahahahaha!

    G’night.

  280. 280.

    Anne Laurie

    September 25, 2009 at 3:22 am

    @John Cole:

    Anyone else watch Fringe? I bought season 1 and kind of like it, even though it is an X-Files ripoff.

    Meee! I started watching it part-way through, via Hulu, and got completely hooked even before the big season finale. The second season has started off even stronger. Just started watching the first-season DVDs with the Spousal Unit, and it’s worth re-watching to pick up all the little clues and details I missed the first time.

    Fringe certainly owes a great debt to the X-Files, but John Noble at least is a better actor than either Anderson or Duchovny, and the Fringe triad is much more entertaining than the X-team. I also appreciate the Fringe “mood” — the X-Files had a very pre-Millenial They-are-out-to-get-Us ambience. Fringe, on the other hand, has its version of Cigarette-Smoking Man stationed right at the heart of the ‘mystery’, and the mood is much more despairing; ‘We’ are the ‘They’, and the crimes we have committed will break us as badly as we have broken any of our victims…

  281. 281.

    freelancer

    September 25, 2009 at 3:30 am

    Also,

    As an aside, either an addendum to Talevangelicals or its own entry:

    Fatwa Envy – Rhetorical reposte in which any criticism of Christianist behavior or vile dogma is countered with a sense of faux oppression, as if to say, “If we were Muslims, you wouldn’t be criticizing us (because they burn down buildings and kill people over cartoons and shit, like we wish we had the courage to shut you heathens up)“.

    or as Urban Dictionary puts it:

    Wishing you had the power, ability, and above all the cultural approval to kill or torture someone who offends their religious sensibilities.

  282. 282.

    Tattoosydney

    September 25, 2009 at 3:43 am

    @JK:

    The Sydney Opera House is one of my favorite buildings.

    Same here… the only other buildings I have been to that compare are Sagrada Familia and the Mosteiro Dos a href=”http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cX0p8y9040k/SbqhkCLLuGI/AAAAAAAACa0/Qv1OvYrTVN4/s400/jeronimos+e+jardim.jpg
    ” rel=”nofollow”>Jeronimos in Lisbon….

    Just a sense of awe at being next to something so amazing that was actually created by human hands….

  283. 283.

    Tattoosydney

    September 25, 2009 at 3:56 am

    @Tattoosydney:

    Oops. Sorry. Tattoosydney +3

  284. 284.

    Persia

    September 25, 2009 at 9:30 am

    @JK: The good news is if they make it into a soap opera I might get to see John Cho shirtless.

  285. 285.

    asiangrrlMN

    September 25, 2009 at 9:34 am

    @Tattoosydney: I love the looks of the Sydney Opera House, but I had heard the acoustics aren’t great. Still, what a pretty view you have.

  286. 286.

    EnderWiggin

    September 25, 2009 at 9:44 am

    I screwed up, and the screw up made it to the dictionary:

    Attack used to defame any whistle blower, insider account or opponent of one’s own worldview, if said opponent has authored a book. The fact that in general the method for spreading an idea or allegation in modern society is by first authoring a book or magazine article, and then being interviewed in the press. Useful for simply disregarding an argument, not matter how factual or valid, simply by implying a profit motive. Considered a valid attack even if the author already has substantial personal wealth.

    should read

    Attack used to defame any whistle blower, insider account or opponent of one’s own worldview, if said opponent has authored a book. The fact that in general the method for spreading an idea or allegation in modern society is by first authoring a book or magazine article, and then being interviewed in the press is not relevant. Useful for simply disregarding an argument, not matter how factual or valid, simply by implying a profit motive. Considered a valid attack even if the author already has substantial personal wealth.

  287. 287.

    SadieSue

    September 25, 2009 at 12:09 pm

    How about adding WaPo to the lexicon?

    WaPo – the Washington Post; see also The Village

  288. 288.

    bedtimeforbonzo

    September 25, 2009 at 2:10 pm

    kindness: Doesn’t Darth Cheney deserve a dishonorable mention in the lexicon?

    “So?”

  289. 289.

    Mitch

    September 25, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    If Dijongate is on there, then Arugula must certainly be.

  290. 290.

    Mitch

    September 25, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Also, if we’re going with the Mustache of Understanding, Bobo, and Jokeline, Tweety deserves a spot.

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