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They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

đŸŽ¶ Those boots were made for mockin’ đŸŽ”

This fight is for everything.

Everybody saw this coming.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

Take your GOP plan out of the witness protection program.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

JFC, are there no editors left at that goddamn rag?

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

The GOP couldn’t organize an orgy in a whorehouse with a fist full of 50s.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

We still have time to mess this up!

It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.

Good lord, these people are nuts.

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

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Elizabeth Warren takes the next step towards running for Senator:

Prospective US Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren today filed paperwork to create an exploratory campaign committee, the next step in a possible challenge to US Senator Scott Brown.
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The Harvard Law School professor and former Obama administration official also created a website – www.elizabethforma.com – to solicit donations and possible volunteers.
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“I think this was always part of the plan,” said Doug Rubin, a Democratic political consultant helping Warren with her pre-campaign analysis. “The whole point is for her to engage with people and listen to their concerns. This just allows her to do more of that.”…
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The state Republican Party released a new statement today labeling Warren “a militant liberal” and detailing a statement she made last year in which she said if her agency was not created, “my second choice is no agency at all and plenty of blood and teeth left on the floor.”

Since Warren got her agency, I guess the message the Repubs are trying to send is: Threats work, as long as people believe you’ll go through with them… and they believe she will.

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  1. 1.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    The state Republican Party released a new statement today labeling Warren “a militant liberal”

    I wonder if, one of these days, that’s going to start being taken as a good thing by a big chunk of voters, now that they’ve gotten a big, much-less-veiled-than-usual eyeful of what a pack of bastards the Redoublechins are.

  2. 2.

    cleek

    The state Republican Party released a new statement today…

    and half a dozen people gave three-tenths of a shit, combined.

  5. 5.

    kindness

    I’d vote for her. But I don’t live there. As such I will just throw good energy (& some coin) at her.

  6. 6.

    PIGL

    “pack of bastards” is tewwibwy, tewwibwy weak, old boy. May I suggest “oozing syphilitic–prick rat bastards”? More mellifluous, like.

  7. 7.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    Even though I think that we have to keep doing things incrementally, I not only hope she’s “a militant liberal” but that people embrace her for that. Though, MA voters, like a lot of the NE voters, seem to think that throwing curve balls sends some type of “independent” message. Hopefully these last two years with lunatic Republicans will change some of that.

    And yes, I know Coakly ran a horrid campaign, but that doesn’t explain the Republican governors in MA or the two Senators from ME.

  9. 9.

    Han's Big Snark Solo

    I hope she knows her baseball lore. The last thing we need is another Schilling mess up.

    I’ve been to Boston a quite a few times; they take baseball pretty darn seriously.

  10. 10.

    lamh34

    Ok, this is not about Elizabeth Warren, but since it’s an open thread, I’m gonna post this here.

    So I see that Maxine Water’s recent comments about “black frustrations” with Obama has been getting alot of airplay and has been used here and elsewhere as a way to say “hey…even African Americans are upset with Obama…”. This could not be farther from the case. In truth, it’s a little more nuanced than certain care to think about.

    I understand that the majority of the people could probably care less about this nuance. It’s enough that the “perceived” frustration expressed by Ms Waters’ is out there. So for anyone who actually would like to read a pretty good post about the subject that at the very least tries to give you an accurate picture of how the CBC, Obama, etc are perceived within the community.

    Rep. Maxine Waters, CBC, Waiting For You to “Unleash” Them On Obama

    While President Barack Obama was on the road duing a listening bus tour, members of the Congressional Black Caucus were getting an earful in Detroit from frustrated constituents upset over our dire economic conditions. When pressed on why the CBC isn’t doing more to put pressure on the president, Rep. Maxine Waters gave a candid response that they were waiting on permission from their constituents. She said these voters, often fervent supporters of the president, needed to “unleash” them…

    Rep. Waters and other CBC members are in a precarious situation where their voting public is angry, frustrated, struggling and wants action. But there is a serious political risk if members like Waters and others if they are perceived as too aggressive…

    Obama has only been in office three years. Many CBC members have been around since the Clinton Administration or longer. And many issues dragging down the African American community are systematic issues that have lingered since — quite frankly — forever. But when it comes to the current economic crisis, it’s been at a “Depression” level for African Americans since George W. Bush’s second term as president. Any critique of “Why isn’t Obama doing anything?” can easily be turned around back on them and they can be asked, “What has the CBC been doing for the last 20 years?”

    Is that a far question given how complicated politics can be? Probably not. But will that get asked over and over again by those in defense of the president? Yes, indeed. … if they go too hard on the president, who is more popular than many of them as a whole (individually, I’m sure they’re beloved in their various districts) — they will get clowned. For all the CBC’s accomplishments, many perceive the current organization as ineffectual and decadent in the same way people view the NAACP and the National Urban League. There seems to be no innovation in the fight, just a retread of old tactics — like having a meeting, holding a boycott or having a march…

    There is more. Please read the whole post. It is very good, and IMHO, perfectly describes the situation as I experience it in my conversations with my own family and community.

    Again, if anyone cares to go deeper than the headlines.

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    Lolis

    I plan on sending some money to Warren, too, but I am waiting till she officially declares. I already gave my email to her campaign and liked her on facebook. I have a few Masshole friends who I irrationally hated for about a week after Scott Brown won. Getting Warren in that seat would almost make losing that 60th vote worthwhile.

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    PIGL

    @XG: Me, I go for over the top bombast and I obsess on the “rule of three”. But understatement works for you. The world would be a dreary place was we all the same.

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    Martin

    So, who is going to start the pool on how long before the firebaggers turn on Warren for selling us out, and proclaiming her to be a center-right candidate?

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    aimai

    I can’t wait for Warren to run. I hope she does. I’ve already signed up at her website and as soon as she’s in I’ll start fundraising.

    I think its a heavy lift but I don’t think she’ll have problems with the “I want to have a beer” with my candidate crowd. Coakley was one stupid, cold, fish who really disliked ordinary people. She hated campaigning and it showed. I think Warren really likes people, and is concerned about them in a scholarly/grandmotherly kind of way. And I think that will show and people will be willing to cut her slack on the cultural stuff–its faking it that people can’t forgive.

    I think–though I can’t be sure–that the voters are perfectly willing to support someone who isn’t pally and “one of the people”–there’s a strong streak of the technocratic and the meritocratic in MA, especially on the Democratic side. I think she’s the first woman to throw her hat in the ring for this seat, this time–the rest are all kind of low level/no name recognition kind of guys. I really felt pretty desperate looking at that lineup. I think having what is perceived as a national reputation, and a consumer advocate reputation, and a long history of working for people’s consumer rights is going to be a huge plus. It doesn’t strike me as at all leftist and scary even to MA’s huge “unenrolled/independent” voters who are quite likely to be in credit card and mortgage debt.

    aimai

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    The Populist

    @lamh34: See, it’s so much easier for the right to play this into another non-issue, smoke screen to divert attention away from their craptastic ideas and continue picking away at Obama.

  20. 20.

    Pat

    Bad move – she will lose to Brown and become a historical footnote. Better for her to run against Obama in red-state primaries as an nice counterbalance to Obama’s rightward genuflection.

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    PeakVT

    What are the chances of the state Democratic Party kneecapping her (metaphorically, of course) because she’s not an insider?

  22. 22.

    Elliecat

    @lamh34: Thanks for this. I only heard the Maxine Waters comment in passing and thought, here we go, more liberal/left Obama-bashing. It’s good to learn it’s more complex than that and start reading about what’s really going on.

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    Violet

    The state Republican Party released a new statement today labeling Warren “a militant liberal”

    That’s really funny. The label of “militant” just isn’t going to stick to her. “That nice lady who looks like my mom/grandma/aunt/teacher? She seems so friendly and like she really cares about people.” THAT’s how people will think of her, whether they like her politics or not. That’s pretty much the exact opposite of “militant.”

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    aimai

    @PeakVT:

    As far as I can see no “insiders” are running at the moment. The linup looks like the seven dwarves of lefty/fringe–much as I personally respect these guys not one of them is an insider/political type except the Mayor of Newton, Setti Warren (no relation) who is a total novice. Personally I think the MA hierarchy is so obsecnely solipsistic that once all the congressmen refused to piddle or get off the pot no one else was willing to take Brown on. I heard there were rumors that Deval Patrick was being urged by someone to get in but he declined. I don’t see any of the others who already hold political sinecures getting in. If she wins the primary I think she’ll win the general since its going to be a massive dem turnout year unlike the Brown special election. I think she’ll help Obama’s numbers and he’ll help hers. I can imagine a whole lot of stay at home old ladies who might otherwise write in Brown writing her in because she’s so no nonsense and comfortable. (In my polling station it was the shut ins who went for McCain, almost all the walk ins went for Obama).

    aimai

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    Yossarian

    To add to aimai’s point, she’s also not a creature of the Beacon Hill machine. Disgust for those folks one reason why state-level Dems keep getting their asses kicked.

  30. 30.

    Anarcho-Syndicalist Communes Now!

    I think Warren should own the ‘militant liberal’ label. The militant tea party and corporatist seneschals need to have ‘plenty of blood and teeth on the floor’. This is someone who will go to DC and fight for her constituents, not the quasi-legal constituency of the Corporate citizen united in destroying the government of by the people, of the people, for the people.
    Of course, she will still lose to Mr. Calendar and nice hair Brown. Brown does some nice ‘fan service’ for the token conservative dems.

  32. 32.

    Jesse Ewiak

    What I find interesting is that even on quasi-sane right-leaning sites like redracinghorses (formed by conservatives who quit going to Swing State Project once it went to Kos) seem to think Brown is going to destroy Warren and have fully bought into the ‘Cambridge elitist’ label.

  34. 34.

    Jay S

    Hey, an open thread!

    We had a call from the insurance company of the person who rear-ended our car. The claim was filed and approved and the work is going on at an insurance company approved facility. So mother of the guy who hit us wants to pay the bill for us and have us drop our claim. She thinks this is going to help her son in some way, but since there’s a claim record and we filed a report to the state about the accident, I can’t see that helping.

    At any rate it seems weird for the insurance company to forward that offer to us. Has anyone seen this before? Would the fact that the claim was withdrawn actually help the driver with future rate increases or in any other way? It seems like they would be letting the insurance company off the hook for the claim and still end up with higher premiums.

    We turned them down, since it’s been relatively painless dealing with the company, but still it seems strange. There are no injuries and our repair bill is $2-3k.

  35. 35.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Jay S:

    We had a call from the insurance company of the person who rear-ended our car.

    We’re there any snipers involved? Because I’m reliably informed that’s a plausible scenario.

  37. 37.

    Margarita

    Elizabeth Warren criticizes credit card companies, but her website accepts donations by CREDIT CARD!!!!

    Am I doing it right?

  39. 39.

    Judas Escargot

    @PeakVT:

    What are the chances of the state Democratic Party kneecapping her (metaphorically, of course) because she’s not an insider?

    Deval Patrick started his campaign as an outsider; once he got enough momentum, the Democrats were all in. If Ms. Warren could follow that same trajectory, (or if there were a primary and she won) she’d be supported.

    I wanted Capuano in the last Senate primary, but he was trounced by Coakley. Ms. Warren is one of the few who’d get my primary vote over him (if he runs again).

    I still think everything outside of 495 pulls it over to Scott Brown again.

    Assuming he’s not the VP nominee.

  40. 40.

    lovable liberal

    Met her this evening – she’s impressive. She needs a bit more focus and refinement of her answers and message, as she tends to go long. But she has fire to go with facts.

    I don’t think the Democratic establishment could possibly unite against her, and MDP chair John Walsh is touting her on Facebook (but not endorsing).

    Right now, she’s in the activist primary. That’s the first step. The way she’s talking up the grassroots makes me think she’s modelling her campaign on Deval Patrick’s.

  41. 41.

    Jebediah

    @Judas Escargot:

    I still think everything outside of 495 pulls it over to Scott Brown again.

    There must be folk in Western Mass and the middle of the state hating on their credit card vultures. Maybe I will move back home so’s I can vote for her.

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