It just occurred to me that not only is President Obama the first President to support gay marriage, he is also the first Muslim world leader to come out in support of gay marriage.
Discuss.
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It just occurred to me that not only is President Obama the first President to support gay marriage, he is also the first Muslim world leader to come out in support of gay marriage.
Discuss.
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schrodinger's cat
We can has Tunch?
Spaghetti Lee
LIBERAL JOHN COLE ADMITS OBAMA IS MUSLIM, BREAKING AROO AROO, MUST CREDIT JIM HOFT!
Tara the Antisocial Social Worker
Since he destroyed heterosexual marriage today, is he still married to Michelle?
TooManyDans
The first militant Christian, Muslim, foreign-born American anti-colonialist President to back gay marriage, that is.
Pretty damned impressive, if you think about it.
Mark S.
Maybe someone who knows more could tell us if he is the first Kenyan president to do so.
Spaghetti Lee
Cole, I know you’re sick of new headers/categories, etc., but I simply must cast a vote for “Oshkosh-Scranton corridor” from today’s earlier trollfest to become part of the vernacular. It’s absolutely Brooksian in its inanity.
Mark S.
@Tara the Antisocial Social Worker:
Nope, he’s now married to Biden.
Tara the Antisocial Social Worker
Also, the first and only American politician to use a teleprompter, and the only one that ever will.
Comrade Jake
It will be a lot more impressive when “pit-bull soup” appears on the White House menu.
Gozer
Just had a wonderful sirloin and several beers and the Barackness Monster hopefully moved the country in a direction that makes it possible for some of the friends of Dr. Mrs. Gozer and I to enjoy the same marital bliss we’ve enjoyed lo these 10 years. I’m feelin’ groovy.
+4 (soon to be 5)
Mark S.
@TooManyDans:
VICTORY!
ETA: I meant to reply to Spaghetti Lee.
Comrade Jake
What does John McCain think about all of this?
David Koch
Romney says gay marriage would violate 3,000 years of recorded history.
I guess his history book left out the violation of Mormon polygamy.
robertdsc-PowerBook
@David Koch:
What a goddamned clown. Fuck you, Mitt.
BGinCHI
A question for the right wing assholes who are always against gay marriage:
“How is gay marriage more of a threat to marriage than divorce?”
Seriously. David Gregory, you reading this? Get your ass to work.
beltane
@David Koch: Only 3,000 years of recorded history? This means that Abraham, Isaac, Jacob etc. were totally cool with gay marriage. Or is the Mormon world even younger than the fundie one. I can’t tell.
TooManyDans
@Mark S.: Figures. Tease.
I read that whole troll fest earlier but it’s only just now dawning on me that I actually must LIVE in the Scranton-Oshkosh corridor. Funny that I always associated myself so strongly with suburban Chicago and not Scranton, or Oshkosh.
rob!
He’s also a murderer, right?
Oh wait, that was Bill Clinton…so hard to keep the kneejerk wingnut accusations lobbed at any and all Democratic presidents straight!
Alison
Watching the wingnuts freak out has been the second best part of this whole thing. They really are so fucking pathetic.
AxelFoley
What you did Cole, I see it.
/Master Yoda
Comrade Coffin
According to teh Google, “Scranton to Oshkosh corridor” is a Tweetyism.
I like that term less than I did two minutes ago.
lamh35
Argentina makes sex-change surgery a legal right
I blame Obama!
foggy follansbye
I think it’s hilarious that google ads is now throwing cute pictures of hot guys at me because of this site’s content today. And they are in my neighborhood!
Can we have a couple posts about Kat Denning or Cobie Smulders please?
Mnemosyne
@David Koch:
Dude, I completely forgot about the Mormon polygamy aspect of this! Now the Mittster gets to denounce the fundamentalists of his own religion for trying to tinker with marriage and explain why polygamy was good enough for Joseph Smith but not for him. Ha!
Clime Acts
Incorrectly stated, John. As per usual you are covering Barack’s ass for him.
More accurately represented, Obama is the first president to allege that he PERSONALLY supports gay marriage, while assuring the neanderthals that in states where the bigots rule and it is against the law, he is fine with that too. So it’s all good.
freelancer
@Spaghetti Lee:
Can I get a link? I was out all day.
amk
Can’t wait for Biden to talk about pot.
And yeah, stewart and colbert can suck it.
gbear
@David Koch:
Did you know that the reason dinosaurs died off is because they all chose the homosexual lifestyle?
danielx
Why oh why do I get this banner at the top of the page touting Ann Coulter’s column for free? What’s second prize, I get paid to read it?
Villago Delenda Est
@BGinCHI:
This is another one of those “yeah, right as soon as I’m crowned Kaiser” sort of things.
Spaghetti Lee
@freelancer:
Think it shows up first here but the whole thread’s a pretty funny hot mess.
Villago Delenda Est
@Clime Acts:
Speaking of Firebagger acts that are getting stale, everything by this poster (or almaglam of posters, you just can’t tell on the Internet) is definitely past the expiration date.
Spaghetti Lee
@amk:
“Sure I’m in favor of smokin’ pot! Man, me and Pat Leahy used to toke up all the time back in the 70’s. He could tell you some stories.
Jibeaux
I wrote up invites for my neighbors with “against amendment one” signs to come over Sat. for food & drink & conversation. I don’t really know any of them, but that was sort of the point. It’s past time for me to reach out to the neighbors a little; why not start with the ones I’ll probably like?
Horatius
The fuck is RMoney gonna say? Marriage is the holy bond between one man and many women, some of whom are underaged?
Suffern ACE
@Jibeaux: That seems like a great way to respond to the situation, IMHO.
opie jeanne
I amused myself just now by checking out the political cartoons on Slate regarding this subject, and chuckled at how many are going to have to walk it back tomorrow.
mai naem
The wingnuts are gonna turn the “talked to Sasha and Malia” into Amy Carter talking to Jimmy about Nukes. Black Jimmy Carter all the way baby! They would turn the “talked to Michelle” into HiiilllllaaryyyyyyyyyCare, Vince Foster and Rose Law Firm but even the wingnuts know Hilary’s too popular and ,uhmm, Obamacare passed.
LTMidnight
@Clime Acts: Get happy, kid.
Michele C.
@TooManyDans: You forgot socialist.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Watching last night’s Colbert with Claire McCaskill, whom I think I would really like if I didn’t know about the way she actually operated as a Senator. Any Missourians (?) know how the Tea Party death threats and Steelman’s mealy -mouthed response are playing? Could Claire McAllWays actually stumble to victory in spite of herself?
The Other Bob
Other than DOMA, has there ever been federal laws regarding marriage? I ask because people are now demanding some sort of pro-gay marriage law and it seems that it may be new legal ground.
jl
“Aren’t there issues of significance you’d like to talk about?” he said, after the string of social issue questions, one of which came from a viewer. “The economy, the growth of jobs, the need to put people back to work, the challenges of Iran? We’ve got enormous issues that we face but you want to talk about medical marijuan–go ahead, you want to talk about Medical…”
Romney Gets Testy After Questions On Gay Marriage, DREAM and Pot
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-gets-testy-after-questions-on-gay-marriage?ref=fpblg
Mike S.
he’s also a candy-assed calculating coward for hiding behind this absurd ‘evolving position’ for the last 5 years given that he had previously gone record in support of gay marriage.
discuss
Mike in NC
Where is that Long Form Birth Certificate?!?
Mike S.
@Mike in NC:
Kenya, obviously.
Mike S.
@mai naem:
and by Obamacare you mean ‘conceived by the Heritage Foundation and test-driven in MA under Romney’
Mnemosyne
@The Other Bob:
As far as I can tell, no. Even Loving v Virginia didn’t establish a nationwide marriage standard — it just invalidated miscegenation laws based on the Due Process clause and the 14th Amendment. With a sane Supreme Court, DOMA would probably be struck down on very similar grounds.
patrick II
Shep Smith on President Obama’s interview:
Even if Shep was on MSNBC this would be a sharp comment. On Faux news it is remarkable. Not for the first time I wonder how Shep keeps his job.
Spaghetti Lee
@Mike S.:
Jesus feckin’ Christ, why are there so many of you guys?
Spaghetti Lee
@patrick II:
Compromising photographs of Roger Ailes.
The Other Bob
@Mnemosyne:
So with the exception of the repeal of DOMA what could the Feds do?
trex
Respect the Tricorne hat. I believe the term you are looking for is “Musselman.”
Clime Acts
@Spaghetti Lee:
It hurts your little Bot Brain to hear the thoughts of NonBots, doesn’t it?
Brachiator
A little comedy relief. Mark Zuckerberg wearing a hoodie makes a Wall Street analyst lose his shit. If Zuckerberg had been black and wearing a hoodie, a security guard might have capped his ass.
http://www.businessinsider.com/analyst-slams-mark-zuckerberg-for-wearing-his-hoodie-to-ipo-meeting-2012-5
Geraldo wept.
Spaghetti Lee
@Clime Acts:
When they’re all being impenetrably stupid, yes it does. But that’s true of idiots of any political persuasion.
Jibeaux
@Suffern ACE: Thanks! I figure worst that can happen is no one shows and I pig out all weekend. Of course, I lack imagination.
Pseudo Irishman
@Mnemosyne:
This is one issue the Supreme Court might be sane on. Kennedy authored both Romer vs. Evans that invalidated Colorado’s anti-gay discriminatory constitutional amendment AND Lawrence vs. Texas, which struck down all state sodomy laws — on quite broad grounds. (His opinion in Lawrence left a dissenting Scalia squealing like a frat boy engaging in “audience participation” at a lesbian-themed bondage club.) O’Connor’s concurring opinion mentioned equal-protection. It would be interesting to see how those opinions might play out in the context of marriage.
pseudonymous in nc
@Spaghetti Lee:
It is clearly an obscene euphemism for Biggus Dickus’ relationship with the Romney ViCtOrY campaign.
Spaghetti Lee
@Jibeaux:
Well, you could end up with a bunch of people who thought Against Amendment One meant Against Gay Marriage.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Spaghetti Lee:
maybe we could get up a fund to help all the internet purity trolls to move to a swing state, see if there’s enough of them to get a Real Progressive Brave and Troo elected to the Senate.
They could move to Wyoming and save us all from Senator Dick Jr!
Burnspbesq
@lamh35:
I blame Maradona.
Ken
Obviously on this issue Obama let his virulent atheism override his deep Muslim faith.
ZB IV
So my mom sends me a version of the “I’m 83 and tired” bit attributed to Bill Cosby, wrongly (apologies if the link doesn’t work, it’s my first try at posting a link):
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/imtired.asp
I sent her back this:
I’m tired too.
I’m tired of right wing lunatics tricking nice little old ladies into forwarding reactionary emails
by posing as celebrities who wouldn’t want anything to do with these people.
I’m tired of being told that people who make more in a year than I will in a lifetime should
pay less than half the tax rate I pay, even though I only make 5 figures.
I’m tired of people assuming that any Muslim who does a bad thing did it because of their
religion, but always assumes a Christian who does a bad thing “wasn’t a real Christian”.
I’m tired of people not understanding that billionaires don’t get into bar fights, and, as countries
go, we’re billionaires. So that means not getting into a tizzy about every dumb thing another
country does.
I’m tired of being told global warming is a hoax, when the 10 warmest years on record are
all in the past decade. I’m also tired of people thinking we have unlimited resources. It took
millions of years to make all this oil we’re using. At the rate we’re going, we’ll burn it all in
less than a thousand. Gee, maybe we ought to try to slow down a little.
I’m tired of people assuming addicts are just horrible people just so they don’t have to take
an honest look at themselves, and realize that there but by the grace of God go I. How about the
“He who is without sin cast the first stone” verse in the bible? Seems relevant to me.
I’m tired of people who complain about politics, and can’t tell you a thing about what Congress
is doing, and what the political parties are doing. The reason Washington is broken is because
not enough of us pay attention to what is going on. If we all watched them, Congress
wouldn’t be bought and sold to the highest bidder.
I’m tired of old people complaining about earrings and tattoos. Younger people don’t even
notice it, and it doesn’t do much of anything to how employable one is these days. Lack of
math skills and basic reasoning is what is making people unemployable.
I’m tired of a political party screaming for fiscal responsibility, and then loading so many tax
cuts for the rich into the mix that they have to cut Social Security and Medicare so badly that
my generation will never get to retire; and they STILL don’t even balance the budget for 30
years (Yes, ladies and gents, that’s what the Ryan Budget does).
I’m 37 and I’ve got a long way to go, and I’m already tired.
Happy Mother’s Day, Mom!
Ash Can
Wait, what? My marriage got destroyed today? Well hell’s bells, why didn’t anyone tell me? I suppose I’m going to have to let M-80 know, except that he’s already asleep. I’ll have to tell him tomorrow sometime, if I remember. Maybe someone will mention it to him at work, and I won’t have to bother.
In all seriousness, though, does anyone besides me look forward to hearing good old Crazy Uncle Joe say something totally and entirely unexpected and unscripted about immigration reform sometime in the next few weeks?
Burnspbesq
@Clime Acts:
If you called what you spew out “thoughts” in connection with the purchase or sale of a security, you would be looking at hard time in a Federal pen. That’s a materially false statement.
Mnemosyne
@The Other Bob:
Not a whole lot, really. Depending on which one gets to the Supreme Court first, either the Prop 8 lawsuit from California or the DOMA lawsuit will be the deciding factor. I don’t know that I’m as optimistic as Pseudo Irishman, but I do think the SC is going to have to make the decision.
Spaghetti Lee
You know, Clime, or Mike S or whoever, I’m not automatically against people criticizing Obama. But is it too much to ask that you make your arguments in the slightest good faith? And attempt to actually educate yourself about the issue, or at least not run and hide when someone shows you you’re wrong? That way we don’t get bullshit like the national gay marriage amendment that only doesn’t exist only because of Obama’s intransigence, certainly not because of the way anti-gay discrimination is currently viewed under the law, and the fact that it’s not within the president’s powers to change that?
And can we please have some fucking humility? For three solid years we’ve all heard that Obama won’t come out in support of gay marriage because he secretly hates gay people from every leftier-than-thou hack on the internet. Well, now he does support it, so without even batting an eye, the firebagger hivemind ignores all their old arguments and starts spitting out brand new and increasingly ridiculous conspiracy theories: it was a political ploy, look at his body language, Biden made him do it. Not a single solitary admission that they might have been wrong, or that their ‘Obama hates gay people’ theory isn’t as true as they thought. Hell, the only other place I’ve seen this sort of allergy to admitting error is with the wingnuts. Now, some people on Obama’s left have been more conciliatory today, which was very gracious of them. The rest of them need to fucking get over themselves. Admit you were wrong and move on. It shouldn’t be this fucking difficult. It’s like pulling teeth.
Burnspbesq
@Ash Can:
Mine, too. Fuck, there’s no way I’m ready to start dating again.
Ash Can
@Brachiator: LOL! That analyst isn’t too clear on the concept of just what it is investors are looking for in a money-making opportunity. I’d think twice about taking his advice on anything.
Another Halocene Human
@David Koch:
I guess his history book left out Juvenal, which described the same-sex wedding ceremonies being held in Rome. (Men couldn’t legally marry, but they could legally adopt their lover, conferring property/inheritance rights. Heck, when Emperor Hadrian’s lover Antinous died he had statues of him erected everywhere and made his veneration and official state cult!)
Suffern ACE
@Burnspbesq: Since you’re going to be forced to seek a male spouse in the new order of things, I might be able to help with a little advice. While you may think us gay men will be turned on by La Crosse and foreign soccer matches, what we really want is a man who knows his jai alai and flat track roller derby.
SarahT
@ZB IV: Love love LOVE this
gaz
@Suffern ACE: FTW
Bonus if you can pull off dead Karen Carpenter drag, and sing “Everybody’s Getting Fucked But Me” with a big fucking grin.
gaz
@Suffern ACE: FTW
Bonus if you can pull off dead Karen Carpenter drag, and sing “Everybody’s Getting Fucked But Me” with a big fucking grin.
eemom
Now that I am officially finished being nice, may I say that for fuck’s sake Cole, if you didn’t keep posting NEW fucking threads on this topic every ten minutes maybe people could actually finish the conversations they were having on the last thread, and also too we wouldn’t have to start all over again with Timmy’s same objections to what Obama said every one of those same ten fucking minutes.
You’re welcome.
Richard
Gay marriage is, of course, central to Sharia law*.
* Actually, the penalty for homosexual behavior can be death in Muslim countries such as Afghanistan and Nigeria.
gaz
@eemom: Fucking cosigned.
Front Pager ADHD is teh suck
gaz
Now, I am become Queer, the destroyer of marriage.
apologies to oppenheimer, and the hindus
FlyingToaster
@Spaghetti Lee: Dude, time to pour another drink.
Realistically, some folks can NEVER be satisfied. Nothing is ever good enough. Lecturing them raises your blood pressure while making them feel victimized. Lose-Lose.
I was so happy when I saw the news this afternoon I called my 74-year-old mom. Who went off on a pro-abortion screed (I can’t make this up, I grew up under the
ungentle tutelageguidance of a pro-choice crusader) and repeatedly mentioned spending the night at the home of the kid I used to babysit who was gay in 1973 and is still gay now.Deep breaths. Large sips. Ignore the Australopithecines. Trust me, it got me the fuck out of Missouri and Indiana. Well, that and an airplane.
FlipYrWhig
@Burnspbesq: On the bright side, being a felon is no hindrance to running a strong second in Dem primaries in West Virginia.
gaz
@FlyingToaster: i had to look up Australopithecines. You fucking elitist. =)
cheers
ZB IV
Thanks SarahT
FlipYrWhig
@FlyingToaster: It’s because a lot of people have a lot invested in the idea that if you ever let yourself express satisfaction, you’ve become complacent and hence a patsy. So if you’re always vocal about how you’re never satisfied, it proves that you’re so hardcore you’ll never sell out.
FlipYrWhig
@gaz: I figured it meant a laconic person from Down Under.
Burnspbesq
@Suffern ACE:
Flat track roller derby? Naah. Gotta draw the line there. Banked-track roller derby is the only true roller derby.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@eemom:
With nary a mention all day of Doughy Jonah being forced to admit that his “Pulitzer Prize nominations” were written by his mom and put under his Mickey Mouse-face pancakes as part of his birthday* surprise.
*years 37 and 39
freelancer
@FlipYrWhig:
Obama is SO over!
Suffern ACE
@Burnspbesq: Well I suppose. I just have to say that my friend Sean once thought like you. Adamant that he would be the one who brought banked track derby to the gays. Never compromising. Ended up spending and extra ten years looking for a soul mate that he didn’t have to, if you ask me.
Another Halocene Human
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Wow, creepy. His hair isn’t even combed in that picture.
Another Halocene Human
@gaz: WIN
BruceFromOhio
@ZB IV: I would like to repost this and attribute it correctly, because you totally nailed it.
And it nicely counter-acts the post written by not-Bill Cosby.
ralph wiggum
Dick Cheney used to be against marriage equality but he had a change of heart.
the fugitive uterus
@ralph wiggum: ba da bump! very nice!
and fuck Cheney – big woop, his daughter is gay. yes, he’s enough of a cold-hearted asshole bastard to completely disown her, actually, so there’s that. but i’m sick of hearing “good on him” and big fucking woop by the media, he had personal reasons for doing so and it does NOT erase his crimes.
ZB IV
@BruceFromOhio:
That’s fine by me. I appreciate the interest.
asiangrrlMN
This is why I love you, Cole. Oh, and what schrodinger’s cat said at number one. UNLEASH THE TUNCHIEEEEEEEEE!
chopper
@David Koch:
so prior to 1000BC gay marriage was all over the place?
chopper
@Clime Acts:
i’m not even sure that was the president talking. it could have been a hologram.
Triassic Sands
Technically that isn’t true since Obama was born in Kenya and Indonesia to parents from Kansas and Alpha Centauri. That means he isn’t really president, so he can’t be the first president to do anything. Details matter.
jake the snake
@chopper:
See “History of The World, Part One”.
According to Mel Brooks, the first gay marriage occurred immediately after the first heterosexual marriage.