Here’s a little good news: Ron Barber, Gabrielle Giffords’ former aide who was injured in last year’s shooting, won yesterday’s special election for the seat she had to resign because of her injuries, beating a gun-toting, Ryan-loving teabagger.
Barber Wins
by @heymistermix.com| 70 Comments
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amk
So I guess AZ is ‘in play’ now in Nov ?
Villago Delenda Est
That’s one of the few sane congressional districts in AZ.
Don’t forget that the vile spawn of Dan and Marilyn Quayle got elected to a different congressional district two years ago.
JCT
Well, after spending most of my life in CA and NY it was certainly fun to have my vote really be meaningful for once.
It was interesting — at the last minute a bunch of small signs that repeated Jesse the Asshole’s comments about Social Security and Medicaid popped up all over town. Although many of us voted early, I’ll bet they gave some folks pause on the way to the polls.
Kelly was reduced to hanging banners on his existing signs that said “Cheaper Gas Prices” and “Use American Energy”. Kind of amusing.
lacp
And here I was so sure that Walker’s win in Wisconsin had left DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!!! Shut my mouth.
PaulW
But but the Media Elite’s Narrative supersedes reality!
Waynski
The district has been redrawn, so we may not hold it in the fall. Nevertheless, good news.
Villago Delenda Est
The WaPo comments are interesting. More than a few have pointed out that because the Democrat won, the media spin is the race isn’t that important a barometer of general election in November. Now, if the Rethug won, the media would be unable to stop talking about how important a sign this was, particularly Faux Nooze.
Stuck in the Funhouse
@amk:
It should be, in a turnabout is fair play world, “in play” as much as NC is no longer in play because a single poll says that 20 percent of AA;s are going to vote for Romney. And that the Easter Bunny is really a communist stooge puppet rodent sucking our precious bodily fluids. And from that same poll, noting that Obama only leads by one now, in NC, so is obviously going to lose.
Rhoda
He won in large part by hammering the vouchercare vote and promising to protect social security. Paul Ryan is a godsend to the democrats, that budget is dead simple to run against even with that citzens united cash advantage.
Steve
I don’t see why AZ couldn’t be competitive. It probably would have been in play in 2008 if it wasn’t McCain’s home state.
Villago Delenda Est
@Stuck in the Funhouse:
The horse race narrative MUST be maintained, at all costs, as we go into November. So any “bad” news for Obama must be trumpeted across the land by the largest media megaphone available.
The narrative is sacred. Our phony-baloney jobs on network and cable news depend on it!
amk
Applications for new internet address endings that include .sex, .pizza and .news are now available.
.pizza ? How much more american centric teh internet gods can get ?
Forum Transmitted Disease
That’s not a “little” good news. That’s great news.
Hill Dweller
@Villago Delenda Est: Wanting a horse race is certainly part of it, but the media sat by while Republicans did stuff no one has ever seen before.
I nearly fell out of my chair when Chris Hayes and Ezra Klein(who was guest hosting for Maddow) both agreed the media had normalized the Republicans nihilism.
Stuck in the Funhouse
OT
Stunning!! Stop the presses, Gracie. Somebody contacted the media for a classified leak. We can’t have the government talking to the press in the Constitution Room.
Somebody find Judith Miller, stat!!
lacp
@Stuck in the Funhouse: Does Valerie Plame know about this?
Raven
@Villago Delenda Est: Governor William J. Lepetomane!
kerFuFFler
@Villago Delenda Est: ” So any “bad” news for Obama must be trumpeted across the land by the largest media megaphone available.”
It has already started. “Front page” Huff…
Crap!
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@amk: We’re not the only country that eats pizza.
Jennifer
Wingnuttia also didn’t fare so well in North Dakota initiative voting. The one the Norquist drones put on the ballot to get rid of ALL local taxes, in which they spent something like 130 times what the opposition spent, went down by over 3 – 1. The “let the churches decide your reproductive choices” amendment went down by over 2 to 1.
Maybe when they throw so much money at something that people just get so goddamned sick and tired of seeing/hearing the ads it backfires. Or maybe it’s just that most voters are still nominally sentient enough to know a really shitty idea when they hear one, no matter how much money is spent trying to convince them that it’s really a good idea.
Egg Berry
@kerFuFFler: I had no idea they made fonts that big outside war!
Hill Dweller
@kerFuFFler: Huffington is still nursing her grudge after Obama rhetorically smacked her down at the Correspondents’ Dinner.
cmorenc
@Waynski:
Actually, the redrawn district is slightly more +D in composition than formerly, making it incrementally more, not less favorable to holding it in the fall. To the extent there’s any downside, in a state with a Republican-majority legislature doing the redistricting, some districts will be deliberately redrawn with an increased Democratic-leaning composition in order to decrease the number of Democratic-leaning voters in one or several other districts. For hypothetical example, if a given state has three competitive districts of which the Ds more often than not win one, the Rs more often than not win a second, and there’s a third which tends to frequently shift back and forth every two to four years, the party in control will see it as a good bargain to shift lines to create one safe district for the other party and two safe districts for their own party.
Culture of Truth
I was told yesterday this race was a national test of whether Dems or GOP were more popular. The Democrat won, therefore this is no longer applicable.
Schlemizel
@Waynski:
Actually his new district is bluer than the old one so he stands an excellent chance! The 2-time loser for the GOP is registered to run again but said this morning he is going to take some time to think about it. To quote Monty Python’s “Upper-middle class twit of the year”
The boy doesn’t know when he is beaten – of course he doesn’t know when he is winning either, he has no external sensory perception at all!”
I do think it is silly they had this election less than 5 months from the actual election, seems a waste of time & effort.
Mark B
@cmorenc: Right, that’s how you minimize the number of democrats in the congressional delegation, by packing as many democrats as you can into fewer districts. It ends up making safe seats, but fewer of them. If you go too far with the game, you can end up creating swing seats in republican-leaning areas as demographics change, which is a real possibility in Arizona if Hispanics get out and vote.
It’s a moral hazard created by making the parties who benefit from redistricting be the ones who are in control of it. In essence, redistricting becomes a game where the party in power screws the party that is not.
And it’s perfectly legal, so long as it’s not done with the intent to disenfranchise racial or ethnic groups.
Stuck in the Funhouse
More pearl clutching from anonymous Dem operatives. uuuuuuh!!
I would bet the ranch all of them were former Clinton folks. Or, maybe Mark Penn called in 9 times, disguising his voice each time. Obama is running not only against Romney and the republicans, but also a gaggle of chickenshit internet ghosts with one kind of butthurt or another. And then there is the MSM, publishing this drek, like Gawker on acid. This is why I call it The Funhouse.
amk
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): yeah, it’s the american pizzas dominos, papajohns, pizzahuts that feed them. Wonder if .taco is available.
Soonergrunt
@Waynski: According to NPR (FWIW) the district will be MORE D-friendly for that election.
Culture of Truth
They didn’t hire you to fuck up his campaign. So sad.
rlrr
@lacp:
Conventional “wisdom” from pundits:
Republican wins: Democrats in disarray!
Democrat wins: It’s an aberration
Culture of Truth
I saw .dog but not .cat There’s over 1,000 so .taco might be.
amk
@Stuck in the Funhouse: Obama team’s reply to these ghosts – FU. They will continue to run the campaign they see fit despite these kneejerks.
jon
I was proud to vote for Ron Barber, even if I only know him from the opposition that came from Citizens United and really poor push polling. I found out his proposals could cost Arizona over 40,000 jobs, and I told the push poller that I hoped most of those jobs lost were to those with shitty math skills. I was told he supported cutting over $500B from Medicare, and I said that was a good thing because old people deserved to die because they’re mostly conservatives. The poor guy couldn’t even pronounce “Giffords”, so I imagine he must have been some out-of-state stooge working a phone bank.
I was also proud of my mother, whom I took to the polling place as she just got a knee replacement. She couldn’t get her ballot in the machine, but discovered that this was because she had been given two ballots. She handed the extra one back to the poll workers, so the grand total of election fraud incidences for the special election is Negative One.
Egg Berry
@Stuck in the Funhouse:
I wish just once one of these people would have the courage to use their name.
Piratedan
aye, we had a nice running conversation on this race on last night’s election thread…. happy Ron has won (he looks like the Burl Ives snowman character when Santa Claus Comes To Town) and its unknown if he’s gonna be a seat warmer for Gabby or if she’ll run again soon. Every indication shows that if she continues to recover, she may very well have McCain’s seat targeted. Have every hope that Carmona will take down whoever is on the R side because as much as we all deride Senator Maverick around here, he occaisionally has a good impulse (i.e. his work on campaign finance fairness which Citizens United made moot). That can’t be said for John Kyl who has all of the appeal of a Disney villian.
jeffreyw
OT, but relevant to our interests.
Mnemosyne
@Steve:
From what some AZ commenters have said, there are a LOT of Mormons in Arizona who are chomping at the bit to vote for Romney. Some of the polling looks good for Obama, but the Mormon vote could overcome that.
lacp
@Stuck in the Funhouse: Yes, how strange that people who have a track record of success refuse to take advice from those who don’t. It is a mystery!
rlrr
@Mnemosyne:
I wonder how many of these Mormons used to be Mo Udall supporters…
jon
@Schlemizel: I thought of running on that very platform: “I’m a Democrat and want to serve you for five months during which the Republican-controlled House will accomplish nothing of note. Really, I’m just going to go there so the Giffords staff can keep doing a good job helping the people of the district and because I like the Smithsonian and the idea of having my personal ads perused on Morning Joe. Vote for me and I promise to give a speech to an empty House on subjects ranging from straw bale construction, whether Mister Rogers should replace Washington on the one-dollar bill, and other important subjects. I’m me and I approve this message.” But since Barber was going to do most of that anyway and already knew the staff, I didn’t bother.
Stuck in the Funhouse
@jeffreyw:
I read that last night. Elaine was right. The dingo did eat your baby.
amk
Was there ever a candidate who lost his home state and still won the presidency ?
Cap'n Magic
And naturally, the authors of “It’s Even Worse Than It Looks” – Ornstein on the Right from AEI, and Thomas Mann on the Left from the Brookings Institute, say that a third party isn’t the answer. What’s the matter, guys, scared that you may lose your power and prestige?
Gee, didja maybe think that YOU are the problem instead of looking eveywhere else? Yes, you toadies being paid a healthy salary AND health insurance to engage in mental masturbation for your masters while everyone else you don’t see is losing? Or are both of you (and your media Quislings) really some kind of stealth Social Darwinistic Objectivists masquerading as a Democrat and Republican?
Jennifer
@amk: Al Gore.
kindness
I was shocked (I know I shouldn’t have been) to see Barber’s challenger out there with ads running with him using an M-16 (could have been an M-15, I don’t know) saying this is how he was going to work with Congress.
WTF is it with folks in the South West anyhow? Is it all the old nuke tests in the desert got into the water or something?
catclub
@Hill Dweller: “normalized the Republicans nihilism.”
Nihilism is too arcane. Hostage taking, destructive, sabotage.
When the sabotage line takes hold I will be a believer.
Nihilism is more like thespian.
Villago Delenda Est
@Egg Berry:
Lanny Davis don’t play that game.
Villago Delenda Est
@kindness:
AR-15, the civilianized version of the M-16.
This guy is an Iraq war vet, he ought to know the difference.
Stuck in the Funhouse
@kindness:
Don’t think they ‘nuke tested’ in AZ, though they did next door in NM. And the radiation turned us all into Earth Mother worshiping potheads. Though I suspect some of that was due to frequent alien visit experiments.
They did test nukes in NV, and that state is at least a swing one. Then there is Texas, with whatever special insanity they possess.
Culture of Truth
The NYT is liveblogging Jamie Dimon’s testimony.
The committee chairman, Senator Tim Johnson, Democrat of South Dakota, has called for the sergeant-at-arms to escort the apparently undeterred heckler out of the chamber. The unidentified man continued his tirade by shouting that bankers were “predators on American taxpayer money.”
Mr Stagger Lee
@amk: At least Papa Murphys in the NW is decent, but I agree.
Culture of Truth
NYT:
As Mr. Dimon sits down, there are already cries from the crowd. Someone shouts, “Jamie Dimon is a crook” and adds that the executive should go to prison.
schrodinger's cat
@amk: Resistance is futile, you shall be assimilated…
Culture of Truth
“Richard Shelby, the ranking Republican on the committee, has warned that he will call for a closed-door session if Mr. Dimon fails to answers his questions.”
Also, he threatened to give Mr. Dimon several sloppy wet kisses if the JP Morgan CEO commits perjury.
amk
@schrodinger’s cat: LOL. Hubby unit back ?
Mino
South Carolina had record low turnout for their primaries and 6 incumbents were defeated. Kinda scares you to think just who they’ll be sending to DC next year. Bound to be a doozy.
http://www.thestate.com/2012/06/13/2313593/state-sees-record-low-primary.html
But Gohmert is probably safe.
Mino
@Stuck in the Funhouse: Heh, Holder is starting an investigation of Senate Committee hearings leaks.
jibeaux
@catclub: “Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it’s an ethos.”
Villago Delenda Est
@Culture of Truth:
Dimon is not a predator.
He is a parasite.
He and his vile ilk need to be eradicated.
Time to call in Van Helsing to deal with these vampires.
flukebucket
I just keep hoping and believing that Obama will run his own campaign and make his own decisions and not listen to all of the bullshitters and grifters out there.
As far as Arizona goes I am using that against my wingnut friends the way they have used Wisconsin against me. I ask them if they did not get the clear message that the voters sent out of Arizona? LOL!
Joey Maloney
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): If it ever really becomes available, I’m going to register bitchgetoutinthekitchenandmakemea.pizza.
rlrr
@amk:
Al Gore in 2000?
Felanius Kootea
So all the teevee pundits are wailing about how this AZ election means that Romney is toast and should pay attention to Ron Barber’s winning message and close his offshore accounts and change his message accordingly, right? Right?
Allan
DEMOCRAT WINS IN ARIZONA! ROMNEY CAMPAIGN IS DOOOOOOOOOOMED! – no media outlet, anywhere
feebog
Arizona could be in play if the thousands of potential latino voters were registered and then actually got out to the polls and voted. I have a friend who is very involved in latino Democratic politics here in SoCal. Although there is work to do here, the real low hanging fruit lies just across the border in Arizona and Nevada.
DramaMama
AZ has an Independent Redistricting Commission, thank God. The Republican legislature did their best to dismantle it this year, but failed.
CarolDuhart2
@Culture of Truth: The guys Obama have now led him to a 7 point victory back in 2008 and have kept his poll numbers steady. Why should he listen to the “consultants” whose advice lost 2000, 2004, and all of the 1980’s? And who lost a sure thing for Hillary?
J R in WV
@Egg Berry:
Second Coming Type is what we called it when I worked in a composing room long ago, when there were such things as journeyman printers. Also used for D-Day invasions and the like.
Mike S.
Is mistermix aware that Giffords herself owns a Glock?